4 dead, 30 shot in Wisconsin Sikh Temple

[Sasha]

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/08/06/cbs-news-shooter-identified-as-former-us-military-member/

CBS News: Shooter Identified As Former US Military Member

OAK CREEK, Wis. (CBSDC/AP) — Authorities tell CBS News that the shooter behind the deadly massacre at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin Sunday has been identified as 40-year-old Wade Michael Page.

Page previously served in the U.S. military, but was no longer on active duty, sources tell CBS News.

CBS News reports that Page enlisted in the Army in April 1992 and was given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. He was last stationed in Fort Bragg, N.C., serving in the psychological operations unit.

So 'officially now, he's a psy-op specialist, skin head, lone wolf, 9/11 frusterated veteran who's running his own confused war on terror against the American people - so scripted.  Chance of organic spree killing decreasing in inverse proportion to increase in 'news' reguarding the event:  op failing.

[Sasha]

CNN reporting that 'gunman' was part of a local white supremicist punk band, ".... Apathy"

Others members of the band still being sought for responses

He worked as a delivery man, and was described as nearly anti-social

His residence lease in his girlfriend's name

[supermegaman]

well lookey what we got here!
http://gma.yahoo.com/sikh-temple-shooter-identified-army-vet-wade-michael-121406665--abc-news-topstories.html

While in the Army Wade served as a sergeant, and later as a specialist based in Ft. Bliss in Texas and at Ft. Bragg in North Carolina. Wade's job was as a Hawk missile system repairman, and he then became a psychological operations specialist, defense official confirmed to ABC news.

another MK Ultra patsy, this time he looks like joe 6 pack and he's going after the brown people.  be afraid, people!  we better ban all guns before this gets outta hand!  


more photos



http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/wade-michael-page-is-the-suspected-wisconsin-templ

Page is believed to be the lead singer of skinhead band End Apathy, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. In this interview with the band, a man named Wade references place that he's lived, including North Carolina and Colorado. Here's what he said about the band's origin:

    "End Apathy began in 2005 and the concept was based on trying to figure out what it would take to actually accomplish positive results in society and what is holding us back. A lot of what I realized at the time was that if we could figure out how to end peoples apathetic ways it would be the start towards moving forward. Of course after that it requires discipline, strict discipline to stay the course in our sick society. So, in a sense it was view of psychology and sociology. But I didn't want to just point the finger at what other people should do, but also I was willing to point out some of my faults on how I was holding myself back."

[Sasha]

Wade Michael Page Photos of End Apathy Released Following Temple Shooting 2012
Posted: August 6th, 2012 in Sikh Temple, Wade Michael Page by LALATE
http://news.lalate.com/2012/08/06/wade-michael-page-photos-of-end-apathy-released-following-temple-shooting-2012/
-several pictures-
 
LOS ANGELES (LALATE) – Photos of Wade Michael Page of the group End Apathy have been released following the temple shooting 2012 this weekend. Wade Michael Page was reportedly lead singer of End Apathy which began as a rock group in 2005. Police have reportedly identified Page as the alleged gunman behind this weekend’s tragic temple shooting.
 
On its MySpace page, End Apathy says that their “music is a sad commentary on our sick society and the problems that prevent true progress.” The group claims that they “began in 2005 with roots in old school … punk and metal influences.” The group last listed their location as Nashville, North Carolina. Their last login to MySpace was in February 2012.
 
But investigators tell news that the Wade Michael Page moved to a residence near the temple only two weeks before this weekend’s shooting rampage. On MySpace, Wade Michael Page’s alleged music includes songs like “self destruct”, “insufficient”, and “submission”.

Wade Michael Page’s alleged music was authored after he was discharged from the army. Page was given a less-than-honorable discharge after serving six years in the army. During his service, he specialized in psychological operations units. He was stationed at Fort Bliss, Texas and thereafter at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

more...

[Sasha]

CNN - live news conference:

Mayor and lots of official, sombre looking people flanking
CNN headers:
"Sikh Temple Gunman's Ties to Hate Groups"
"Gunman in Temple Shooting a Former Soldier"

Chief of PD up now,...  basic tasks review

Fire Chief,... same thing as Chief initially

Chief doing a scenario synopsis that needless to say does not corroberate any of the witnesses thus far

[Sasha]

briefing cont.:

The PD Chief reitterated that there was one shooter very emphaticlly,...

[Effie Trinket]

briefing cont.:

The PD Chief reitterated that there was one shooter very emphaticlly,...

Yup:  "If you don't believe our narrative that it was a lone wolf (like we always demand you believe it is)--you're a conspiracy theorist--even if every eyewitness said there was multiple shooters."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-dispatcher-shooting-sikh-temple-wisconsin-milwaukee-injuries-16933969

OAK CREEK, Wis. August 5, 2012 (AP)
Police say they do not believe there is a second shooter at Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting.

[scandilous]

Unknown 'Person Of Interest' Showed Up At Sikh Temple Shooting Scene:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/06/unknown-person-of-interest_n_1747804.html?utm_hp_ref=crime

Authorities investigating the killing of six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin are trying to identify a person of interest who was at the crime scene after the shooting.

According to Oak Creek police chief John Edwards, the individual "showed up at the scene after the shooting." Edwards said officers who spotted the guy thought "this guy looks suspicious" but he left before they could speak with him.

Authorities cautioned that they do not believe anyone other than the suspected shooter, Wade Michael Page, was involved in the deadly shooting spree.

"We have every reason to believe there was only one shooter ... though our investigation to that end continues," U.S. Attorney James Santelle said at a press conference Monday morning.

Page, 40, was founder of the band End Apathy and lived in an apartment building in Cudahy, Wis. Authorities searched the building Sunday. The landlord there told authorities Page held a night job making welding supplies.

Earlier today, Oak Creek Police said Page joined the U.S. Army in 1992 and was serving in the psychological operations unit in Fort Bragg, N.C. He was allegedly discharged in October 1998, under less-than-honorable circumstances. The circumstances of his discharge are not immediately clear

[Brocke]

An interesting Sikh news site
http://www.sikharchives.com/

It seems the Sikhs know that 9/11 was an inside job!
http://www.sikharchives.com/?p=15949
"The issue of the complicity of the American Media which is highly controlled, in disseminating the false narrative that Muslims wear turbans,  when in fact 98% of the turban wearers in the world are Sikhs, is designed to imprint in the minds of Americans that any person wearing a turban is a Muslim terrorist.  This is the narrative that has been continually propagated by the highly controlled American media since the 9-11 false flag operation."


Perspective: no group is without a past.

The assassination of Indira Gandhi, Operation Blue Star, Air India Flight 182 and the Benazir Bhutto purge.

The Sikhs form a majority in the Indian state of Punjab. During the 1970s, a section of Sikh leaders cited various political, social, and cultural issues to allege that the Sikhs were being cornered and ignored in Indian Society, and Sikhism was being absorbed into the Hindu fold. This gradually led to an armed movement in the Punjab, led by some key figures demanding a separate state for Sikhs.

The insurgency intensified during the 1980s, when the movement turned violent and the name Khalistan resurfaced and sought independence from the Indian Union. Led by Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale who, though not in favour in the creation of Khalistan, was also not against it, they began using militancy to stress the movement's demands. Soon things turned extreme with India alleging that neighbouring Pakistan supported these militants, who, by 1983-84, had begun to enjoy widespread support among Sikhs.

In 1984, Operation Blue Star was conducted by the Indian government to stem out the movement. It involved an assault on the Golden Temple complex, which Sant Bhindranwale had fortified in preparation of an army assault. Indira Gandhi, India's then prime minister, ordered the military to storm the temple, who eventually had to use tanks. After a 74 hour firefight, the army successfully took control of the temple. In doing so, it damaged some portions of the Akal Takht, the Sikh Reference Library, and the Golden Temple itself. According to Indian government sources, 83 army personnel were killed and 249 were injured. Militant casualties were 493 killed and 86 injured.

During the same year, the assassination of Indira Gandhi by two Sikh bodyguards, believed to be driven by the Golden Temple affair, resulted in widespread anti-Sikh riots, especially in New Delhi. Following Operation Black Thunder in 1988, Punjab Police, first under Julio Ribeiro and then under KPS Gill, together with the Indian Army, eventually succeeded in pushing the movement underground.

In 1985, Sikh terrorists bombed an Air India flight from Canada to India, killing all 329 people on board Air India Flight 182. It was the worst terrorist act in Canada's history.

The ending of Sikh militancy and the desire for a Khalistan catalyzed when the then-Prime Minister of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto, handed all intelligence material concerning Punjab militancy to the Indian government, as a goodwill gesture. The Indian government used that intelligence to put an end to those who were behind attacks in India and militancy.

The ending of overt Sikh militancy in 1993 led to a period of relative calm, punctuated by militant acts (for example, the assassination of Punjab CM, Beant Singh, in 1995) attributed to half a dozen or so operating Sikh militant organisations. These organisations include Babbar Khalsa International, Khalistan Commando Force, Khalistan Liberation Force, and Khalistan Zindabad Force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_India

[Irobot]

India Sikh's riot in protest of civilian gun ownership in USA.
http://12160.info/forum/topics/india-sikh-s-riot-in-protest-of-civilian-gun-ownership-in-usa

[larsonstdoc]

  This is the October surprise.  This is a staged event.
                                            ---AJ on his show today

  I think this is just the beginning.
                     ---Mike Adams on the AJ Show today

[larsonstdoc]

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/2010-interview-temple-shooter-said-he-started-band-to-get-results-in-our-sick-society-mh6co71-165132146.html


Through band, Page says he wanted get results 'in our sick society'


A May 2010 interview that Sikh Temple shooter Wade Page gave to promote his hard-core punk band End Apathy reveals a man who felt he was holding himself back when it came to accomplishing "positive results . . . in our sick society."

The interview was conducted by "Rick 56" from End Apathy's record label Label 56, which bills itself on its website as promoting "cultural change through music and activism."

In the interview - which was taken down Monday afternoon from the website Uprise Direct, a blog "sponsored by Label 56" - Page said he started the band in 2005 "to figure out what it would take to actually accomplish positive results in society and what is holding us back."

"A lot of what I realized at the time was that if we could figure out how to end people's apathetic ways it would be the start towards moving forward," Page is quoted as saying. "Of course after that it requires discipline, strict discipline, to stay the course in our sick society.

"But I didn't want to just point the finger at what other people should do, but also I was willing to point out some of my faults on how I was holding myself back."

That sentiment, he says in the interview, inspired the song "Self Destruct."

Page also says his band's songs "vary from sociological issues, religion and how the value of human life has been degraded by being submissive to tyranny and hypocrisy that we are subjugated to."

In the interview, Page makes references to other bands he was in, including 13 Knots and Definite Hate. There is a video on YouTube uploaded in May 2007 that defines Definite Hate as a "white power band" and depicts a performance in Laurens, S.C. In the concert footage, a flag with the image of Adolf Hitler superimposed on a Nazi swastika is used as a backdrop.

At about 1 p.m. Central time Monday, Label 56 posted a statement on its website and Facebook page.

"Label 56 is very sorry to hear about the tragedy in Wisconsin and our thoughts are with the families and friends of those who are affected," the statement reads. "We have worked hard over the years to promote a positive image and have posted many articles encouraging people to take a positive path in life, to abstain from drugs, alcohol, and just general behavior that can affect ones life negatively. Likewise we have never sought attention by using 'shock value'/symbols and ideology that are generally labeled as such. With that being said, all images and products related to End Apathy have been removed from our site. We do not wish to profit from this tragedy financially or with publicity."

"In closing please do not take what Wade did as honorable or respectable and please do not think we are all like that."

[supermegaman]

I see this leading to having metal detectors inside the doors at places of worship.  Insurance companies will demand it.  "too dangerous" they'll say.  If you don't put them in, you won't get coverage. 

[Geolibertarian]

Coming to a church near you...

[larsonstdoc]

I see this leading to having metal detectors inside the doors at places of worship.  Insurance companies will demand it.  "too dangerous" they'll say.  If you don't put them in, you won't get coverage. 

  It will be a complete police state--grocery stores, malls, churches, restaurants, public buildings, everywhere.

[pac522]

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/2010-interview-temple-shooter-said-he-started-band-to-get-results-in-our-sick-society-mh6co71-165132146.html


Through band, Page says he wanted get results 'in our sick society'

If they didn't say he was in a white power band or something alike and if you just read what he wrote it sounds like a lot of the people posting here. Wanting to end apathy, promoting cultural change, ending tyranny etc.

Scary.

[larsonstdoc]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/sikh-shooter-a-former-psyop-soldier-linked-to-fbis-national-alliance.html



Sikh Shooter a Former Psyop Soldier Linked to FBI’s National Alliance
                   
Kurt Nimmo
Prisonplanet.com
August 6, 2012
The alleged shooter in the Wisconsin Sikh shooting is a former soldier who worked in military psychological operations, according to the corporate media.
CBS News reports that Page enlisted in the Army in April 1992 and was given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. He was last stationed in Fort Bragg, N.C., serving in the psychological operations unit.
Psyops are not confined to the military and usually span a number agencies, including the CIA, DIA, NSC, NSA, and SAIC.
In 2002, the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon defined psychological operations as “integrated employment of the core capabilities of electronic warfare, computer network operations, psychological operations, military deception, and operations security, in concert with specified supporting and related capabilities, to influence, disrupt, corrupt or usurp adversarial human and automated decision making while protecting our own. Also called IO.” (emphasis added) (see Joint Publication 1-02: Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms).
Since the alleged shooter, Wade Michael Page, is now characterized as a white supremacist, the Southern Poverty Law Center is leading the information campaign to portray him as a racist skinhead. In addition to fronting a “hate rock band,” the Southern Poverty Law Center “has found that Page also attempted to purchase goods from the neo-Nazi National Alliance, then America’s most important hate group,” according to SPLC propaganda minister Mark Potok.

The National Alliance, like most white supremacist groups, is controlled by the FBI.
In 2007, its supposed leader, Green Beret David Kellerman, said he worked for the FBI. During a trial on weapons charges, Kellerman “said he went to work for the FBI with orders to infiltrate the National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group, in 2000 and relay intelligence. The group’s founder wrote a book that is widely believed to have inspired the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing,” the Miami Herald reported.
Is it possible the SPLC is somehow connected to the latest shooting? In 2005, court papers revealed that the supposed anti-racist organization ran an “informant” (informant and agent provocateur are often interchangeable) at Elohim City prior to the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in 1995.
“The potentially explosive contents of the teletype, among other things, exposed for the first time an informant operation being conducted by nationally known civil rights lawyer Morris Dees through his organization the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC),” J. D. Cash wrote for the McCurtain Daily Gazette in October of 2005.
In some detail the FBI acknowledged the SPLC was engaged in an undercover role where it monitored subjects for the FBI believed to be linked to executed bomber Timothy McVeigh, the white supremacist compound at Elohim City and the mysterious German national Andreas Carl Strassmeir.
Strassmeir was a German intelligence officer and the leader of the Aryan Republican Army at Elohim City, Robert Millar, worked closely with the FBI. “Founder Millar repeatedly shared information with law enforcement officials. During a June 31, 1997 court proceeding, FBI Senior Agent Peter Rickel testified Millar was in regular contact with the agency in the years before the bombing,” writes Jim Redden in his book, Snitch Culture.
As we noted in the case of the 1st SS Kavallerie Brigade Motorcycle Division bust in July, the FBI controls the virtually all white supremacist groups.
It came out during the trail of reputed racist Hal Turner that he was a “National Security Intelligence” asset working for the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force. His code name was “Valhalla” and “he received thousands of dollars from the FBI to report on such groups as the Aryan Nations and the white supremacist National Alliance, and even a member of the Blue Eyed Devils skinhead punk band,” according to The Record.
The FBI has run racist and white supremacist groups since the 1960s. Under COINTELPRO, the FBI “subsidized, armed, directed and protected the Ku Klux Klan and other right-wing groups,” Brian Glick writes. Racist groups were used to create a strategy of tension by attacking groups on the so-called left, including anti-war, Chicano and Puerto Rican activists and nationalists.
It now appears the government has taken its psyop to the next level. Instead of merely concentrating on small time busts and demonizing “rightwing extremists” for propaganda purposes in a complaint corporate media, they have decided to add the racist “white power” angle to the domestic terrorism narrative.

[PeaceAndFreedom]

 It will be a complete police state--grocery stores, malls, churches, restaurants, public buildings, everywhere.

Quite. It seems the staged events are being stacked one after another to push omni-police-state protocols, and to cover the bases as far as public places "whose security must be beefed up" is concerned. Colorado shooting---theaters and malls, check. Sikh shooting---places of worship, check. The next spot? Look for a shooting in a supermarket, or city park.

[larsonstdoc]

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/12347-gunman-who-killed-six-in-sikh-temple-attack-described-as-“neo-nazi”


Gunman Who Killed Six in Sikh Temple Attack Described as “Neo-Nazi”

 
Forty-year-old Wade Michael Page, who served in the U.S. Army from 1992-98, was shot and killed by police officers in the parking lot of a Milwaukee-area Sikh Temple after he had gone on a rampage that left six dead and three wounded. According to the New York Times, Page entered the temple, located in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek, Wisconsin, at about 10:15 a.m. carrying a 9 millimeter handgun and began firing at priests gathered in the temple lobby. “He then stalked through the temple as congregants, including women preparing a meal for services, ran for shelter and barricaded themselves in bathrooms and prayer halls,” the paper reported. “They made desperate phone calls and sent anguished texts pleading for help as confusion and fear took hold.”

Like much of the rest of the media, the Times was quick to go for “expert opinion” to the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which said it has evidence that the shooter in the deadly attack had ties to the white supremacist movement. SPLC spokespersons Mark Potok and Heidi Beirich have been quoted in many news stories describing Page, a Milwaukee area resident, as a “frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.”

The evidence cited by the SPLC may turn out to be accurate, but the organization’s record gives ample warning that it will soon be spinning whatever facts it may have about Page to serve as a broad-brush indictment of the “political and religious right,” whom the SPLC leftists malign as “haters.” The SPLC’s regular vicious attacks on patriotic, constitutionalist, pro-life, pro-family, and pro-Second Amendment organizations, as well as attacks on Tea Party groups and black Christian pastors who oppose homosexual marriage, (see here, here, and here) have destroyed its credibility with millions of Americans. If Mr. Page was indeed a Neo-Nazi, that would make him a national socialist: Nazi Party is the short title for the National Socialist German Workers' Party (in German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei). As a socialist, Page would be much more nearly compatible on many key political and economic issues with those who identify themselves as liberal Democrats or Obama Progressives. Neo-Nazis, like the Nazis of the Hitler era, also share another common denominator with many of their liberal-left critics: a hatred of Christianity and Christian culture.

[PeaceAndFreedom]

We need to push a counter-narrative to the meme of 'more police state' and more gun-grabbing these events are directing attention to, and we need to push it NOW. Use new stories like this, for instance:

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/65-year-old-woman-with-a-gun-chases-off-5-armed-robbers

[larsonstdoc]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-investigators-kept-tabs-alleged-sikh-temple-shooter-20120806,0,2390104.story



  To me this looks like fiction.  Does anybody really believe this story?  Tracking this guy for years?



  Sikh temple shooting: Gunman had been on investigators' radar


Authorities Tracked Gunman In Sikh Temple Shooting For More Than A Decade

By Brian Bennett
August 6, 2012, 4:31 p.m.
WASHINGTON -- Federal investigators had “looked at” Sikh temple gunman Wade Michael Page more than once because of his associations with right-wing extremists and the possibility that he was providing funding to a domestic terrorist group, but law enforcement officials at the time determined there was not enough evidence of a crime to open an investigation, a senior U.S. law enforcement official said.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, would not say Monday which law enforcement agency had considered investigating Page, or when.

Before his rampage Sunday at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., that left him and six others dead and three critically wounded, Page was known to civil rights groups as a member of two racist skinhead bands – End Apathy and Definite Hate. He was also believed to have been a low-level member of a national white supremacist group called the Hammerskins.




Racist skinhead bands and record labels have been known by law enforcement to raise money for extremist groups in the U.S.

Both the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center had tracked Page for several years. The nonprofit organizations collect publicly available information on hate groups from Web forums, pamphlets and other sources.

But the FBI is prohibited under federal law from collecting information on U.S. citizens not suspected of committing a crime. In order to open a domestic terrorism investigation, FBI agents must believe a suspect has threatened violence, has broken federal law and is trying to advance a political or social agenda.

[pac522]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-investigators-kept-tabs-alleged-sikh-temple-shooter-20120806,0,2390104.story



  To me this looks like fiction.  Does anybody really believe this story?  Tracking this guy for years?

Of course they can say that when the SPLC was involved. They're running the show.

[John_Back_From_The_Club_O]

"I am troubled by the demand by the police that the media not broadcast any live video of what is going on (a demand not made during previous incidents) and for people whose family members are inside the temple to not call in or text in and give away their positions, even though at this time they think the only shooter is already dead. Given that anyone worried about their smart phone giving away their positions can turn their smartphones off, there is already a strong sense of controlling the outflow of information coming across in the official statements."
-M.R.

Just like in Colorado.  Police try and cut civilian communication in order to better disseminate their psy operation.

[ersatz protocol]

They're having a field day with listing all the shooting ops to serve as examples in their agenda articles.

'Handgun type used on Sikhs is mass shooting weapon of choice'

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/07/us-usa-wisconsin-shooting-weapon-idUSBRE87606820120807

and I'd noticed the convenient timing of the news in recent days about loughner probably pleading guilty in that az shooting,
to spotlight the incident as a reminder.

http://news.yahoo.com/jared-loughner-expected-plead-guilty-tucson-shootings-185055267.html

I definitely think its about inundating the public with shooting incident headlines along with periodic operations...
one after another.
I think we're seeing their plan 'b' being executed ever since fast and furious was outed...these new incidents would have to
be fast and furious

[starvosan]

How many aliases did this guy have?

http://www.9news.com/news/article/281511/188/Sikh-shooter-had-Colorado-connection
Sources have told 9NEWS he used to live in Littleton from 2000 to 2007.
9NEWS found Wade's name listed in a Littleton High School yearbook for 1987 and twice in Arapahoe High School's yearbooks for 1989 and 1990. His last name was different at the time. He went by the name "Wade Vanbuskirk."

[starvosan]

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21246629/suspect-wisconsin-sikh-temple-shootings-colorado-ties
In 1999, Page pleaded guilty to driving while ability impaired in Denver. He served 60 days in jail, according to Denver court records.   The Denver Sheriff's Office refused to release its mug shot of him, citing a request from law officers in Wisconsin.

Now why would they care what he looked like 13 years ago?

[scandilous]

good compilation video

Sikh Massacre: Eyewitness Testimony CONTRADICTS Official Story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwmaqyyC3BU

[TahoeBlue]

Sikh's as religious Knights (sounds like the Templars?) I personally have known Brahman caste Indians and religious Sikhs and have met very few people of greater spiritual quality. A major difference over the Hindu is the Sikh's have no caste system and monotheism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan
The kirpan (/kɪərˈpɑːn/; Punjabi: ਕਿਰਪਾਨ kirpān) is a ceremonial sword or dagger carried by Sikhs. It is a religious commandment given by Guru Gobind Singh (the tenth Guru of Sikhism) at the Baisakhi Amrit Sanchar (a holy religious ceremony that formally baptizes a Sikh) in AD 1699, all baptised Sikhs (Khalsa) must wear a kirpan at all times
...
Sikhs embody the qualities of a "Sant-Sipahie"—a saint-soldier. One must have control over one's internal vices and be able to be constantly immersed in virtues clarified in the Guru Granth Sahib. A Sikh must also have the courage to defend the rights of all who are wrongfully oppressed or persecuted irrespective of their colour, caste or creed.

[ I don't believe this would be a butter knife - more likely the cerimonial Kirpan.... ]

[ Oh - notice how this article fans the race flames "white American" terrorism  and "white man" comment -  "terrorism" or "senseless violence" or "man" would work:  ]  

http://prernalal.com/2012/08/sikh-temple-shooting-of-butter-knives-and-guns/
...
Satwant Singh Saleka died fighting back an act of white American terrorism. He did not turn the other cheek. He saw a white man trying to hurt people in his gurudwara and he did the only thing he had to do: fight back with a butter-knife before being overpowered by a gun. He was shot twice and died on his feet, a real soldier.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-08-05/shooting-sikh-temple-wisconsin/56809408/1
...
Amardeep Kaleka said his father, who had three grandchildren, came to the U.S. in 1982 with $30 in his pocket. He said he was found with a knife two feet from his body, indicating he was fighting off the shooter.

http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/timkowal/2012/08/the-sikh-murders-the-hero-of-oak-creek/
...
The Hero of Oak Creek, then. Armed with a ritual sword too small for the job.

Earlier last year, there was a controversy in Detroit about whether a 4th-grader could carry a “dull, 3- to 5-inch kirpan.” His principal said yes, the school board said no. Then they said yes. Sort of, mostly.

The blade of the Kirpan must be dull and no longer than two and one-fourth inches long and the ceremonial sword must be worn under clothing and not visible in any way.

Students who violate the rules will be disciplined and may be prohibited from wearing the Kirpan to school in the future.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2010/04/22/wdr-kirpan-courthouse-100422.html
Sikh kirpan causes court standoff
 
'Even if someone orders you to take it off, you do not.'

A Sikh man in Windsor, Ont., who refused to remove a ceremonial dagger when entering a courtroom has ignited a fierce debate about religious rights and security concerns.

Dr. Sukhdev Kooner was scheduled to testify in Ontario Superior Court Thursday about an ongoing dispute between leadership parties in the Windsor Sikh Community.
 
Kooner, an internist and allergist, also serves as president of the Sikh Cultural Society of Metropolitan Windsor.
As a devout Sikh, Kooner wears a kirpan, a ceremonial knife, on his hip at all times and had it on him when he arrived at court.
...

[ Is the reason Sikh's have been targeted (for false-flags) have to do with their refusal to cut their hair for the Army? ]

http://sikhism.about.com/b/2009/04/09/sikh-warriors-denied-entry-into-us-army.htm
...

The recruiters come knocking at the door with promises of signing bonuses and advocating, "Join the Army see the World," and receive a GI loan for college and buying a home. Hopes on both sides turn to disappointment for all US armed forces reject the Sikh identity of uncut hair and beard.

Sikhs have a long military history. Many Sikhs from the Punjab have blood lines tracing back to the warriors who resisted Alexander the Great  ultimately putting an end to his conquest.

Guru Hargobind, the 6th spiritual master of Sikhism mustered the first Sikh army after his father Guru Arjan Dev became the first Sikh martyr. In April of 1699 (Nankshahi Calendar), known in present times as Vaisakhi Day, Guru Gobind Singh formalized the Sikh religion and established the order of Khalsa, creating the concept of the Sant- Saphai, meaning saint- soldier, putting into action a spiritual warrior who physically defends the oppressed while practicing self mastery.

Sikhs have maintained their spiritual identity of uncut hair through the centuries, fearlessly serving in the military units of many armed forces around the world.

In 1948, on July 26th, Harry Truman, the US President, promised equality of opportunity for everyone serving in the US armed forces when he signed Executive Order 9981, stating,

"It is hereby declared to be the policy of the President that there shall be equality of treatment and opportunity for all persons in the armed services without regard to race, color, religion, or national origin."

The promise has not been kept in the past several decades. The Sikh Coalition is taking up the cause and launching a campaign on Vaisakhi Day, April 14th, 2009, to end the ban on Sikhs joining the US military.

Please show your support for equal opportunity in US Armed Forces and sign a petition on behalf of two US Army recruits, Captain Kamaljit Singh Kalsi and Second Lieutenant Tejdeep Singh Rattan, who are being forced to choose between their religious identity and service to their country. Both have maintained their Sikh identity while enrolled in an Army program which exchanges medical scholarships for military service and are discovering, only after four years, that they have been given unreliable information. Assurances made by recruiters that keeping their hair intact would be no problem are turning out to be false.

[chris jones]

 P Morgan ( nope I don't cotton to P.Morgan, in fact I detest the S.O.B..) interviewed an army buddy ( FORMER-military psychological operations) and so called friend of the guy.
 Just my oppinion, this guy was rehearsed, scripted and scared shiitless.
 Psych ops never end!
 

[starvosan]

Did they know it was coming?

http://deadlinelive.info/2012/08/07/one-of-the-first-cops-on-the-scene-told-the-mayor-to-prepare-for-a-mass-shooting-weeks-ago/
“Just three weeks ago, one of the first officers on the scene talked to the the mayor about preparing and being ready for a mass tragedy just like this one”

[Irobot]

Did they know it was coming?

http://deadlinelive.info/2012/08/07/one-of-the-first-cops-on-the-scene-told-the-mayor-to-prepare-for-a-mass-shooting-weeks-ago/
“Just three weeks ago, one of the first officers on the scene talked to the the mayor about preparing and being ready for a mass tragedy just like this one”

wow thanks

[TahoeBlue]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sikh-temple-police-20120807,0,542686.story
Motive uncertain in Sikh temple shooting, police say
...
Police Chief John Edwards told CNN. "We're not finding anything like that. ...
We may [ must ] never know the motive, because he died, and that motive died with him."
...

[ersatz protocol]

I can't tell if this witness,from the inital reports where he said it was 4 shooters...is now changing his original testimony in this other cnn vid, since he describes "and then one of the gunman opened fire..."
Which initially made me think it's still multiple shooters and then proceeds to keep saying "...the gunman proceeded..." and 'he opened fire'.  

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2012/08/05/temple-member-on-shooting.cnn

[larsonstdoc]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sikh-temple-police-20120807,0,542686.story
Motive uncertain in Sikh temple shooting, police say
...
Police Chief John Edwards told CNN. "We're not finding anything like that. ...
We may [ must ] never know the motive, because he died, and that motive died with him."
...

  Maybe the other shooters know what the motive was.

[jerryweaver]

Sikh's as religious Knights (sounds like the Templars?) I personally have known Brahman caste Indians and religious Sikhs and have met very few people of greater spiritual quality. A major difference over the Hindu is the Sikh's have no caste system and monotheism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan
The kirpan (/kɪərˈpɑːn/; Punjabi: ਕਿਰਪਾਨ kirpān) is a ceremonial sword or dagger carried by Sikhs. It is a religious commandment given by Guru Gobind Singh (the tenth Guru of Sikhism) at the Baisakhi Amrit Sanchar (a holy religious ceremony that formally baptizes a Sikh) in AD 1699, all baptised Sikhs (Khalsa) must wear a kirpan at all times
...
Sikhs embody the qualities of a "Sant-Sipahie"—a saint-soldier. One must have control over one's internal vices and be able to be constantly immersed in virtues clarified in the Guru Granth Sahib. A Sikh must also have the courage to defend the rights of all who are wrongfully oppressed or persecuted irrespective of their colour, caste or creed.

[ I don't believe this would be a butter knife - more likely the cerimonial Kirpan.... ]

[ Oh - notice how this article fans the race flames "white American" terrorism  and "white man" comment -  "terrorism" or "senseless violence" or "man" would work:  ]  

http://prernalal.com/2012/08/sikh-temple-shooting-of-butter-knives-and-guns/
...
Satwant Singh Saleka died fighting back an act of white American terrorism. He did not turn the other cheek. He saw a white man trying to hurt people in his gurudwara and he did the only thing he had to do: fight back with a butter-knife before being overpowered by a gun. He was shot twice and died on his feet, a real soldier.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-08-05/shooting-sikh-temple-wisconsin/56809408/1
...
Amardeep Kaleka said his father, who had three grandchildren, came to the U.S. in 1982 with $30 in his pocket. He said he was found with a knife two feet from his body, indicating he was fighting off the shooter.

http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/timkowal/2012/08/the-sikh-murders-the-hero-of-oak-creek/
...
The Hero of Oak Creek, then. Armed with a ritual sword too small for the job.

Earlier last year, there was a controversy in Detroit about whether a 4th-grader could carry a “dull, 3- to 5-inch kirpan.” His principal said yes, the school board said no. Then they said yes. Sort of, mostly.

The blade of the Kirpan must be dull and no longer than two and one-fourth inches long and the ceremonial sword must be worn under clothing and not visible in any way.

Students who violate the rules will be disciplined and may be prohibited from wearing the Kirpan to school in the future.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2010/04/22/wdr-kirpan-courthouse-100422.html
Sikh kirpan causes court standoff
 
'Even if someone orders you to take it off, you do not.'

A Sikh man in Windsor, Ont., who refused to remove a ceremonial dagger when entering a courtroom has ignited a fierce debate about religious rights and security concerns.

Dr. Sukhdev Kooner was scheduled to testify in Ontario Superior Court Thursday about an ongoing dispute between leadership parties in the Windsor Sikh Community.
 
Kooner, an internist and allergist, also serves as president of the Sikh Cultural Society of Metropolitan Windsor.
As a devout Sikh, Kooner wears a kirpan, a ceremonial knife, on his hip at all times and had it on him when he arrived at court.
...

[ Is the reason Sikh's have been targeted (for false-flags) have to do with their refusal to cut their hair for the Army? ]

http://sikhism.about.com/b/2009/04/09/sikh-warriors-denied-entry-into-us-army.htm
...

The recruiters come knocking at the door with promises of signing bonuses and advocating, "Join the Army see the World," and receive a GI loan for college and buying a home. Hopes on both sides turn to disappointment for all US armed forces reject the Sikh identity of uncut hair and beard.

Sikhs have a long military history. Many Sikhs from the Punjab have blood lines tracing back to the warriors who resisted Alexander the Great  ultimately putting an end to his conquest.

Guru Hargobind, the 6th spiritual master of Sikhism mustered the first Sikh army after his father Guru Arjan Dev became the first Sikh martyr. In April of 1699 (Nankshahi Calendar), known in present times as Vaisakhi Day, Guru Gobind Singh formalized the Sikh religion and established the order of Khalsa, creating the concept of the Sant- Saphai, meaning saint- soldier, putting into action a spiritual warrior who physically defends the oppressed while practicing self mastery.

Sikhs have maintained their spiritual identity of uncut hair through the centuries, fearlessly serving in the military units of many armed forces around the world.

In 1948, on July 26th, Harry Truman, the US President, promised equality of opportunity for everyone serving in the US armed forces when he signed Executive Order 9981, stating,

"It is hereby declared to be the policy of the President that there shall be equality of treatment and opportunity for all persons in the armed services without regard to race, color, religion, or national origin."

The promise has not been kept in the past several decades. The Sikh Coalition is taking up the cause and launching a campaign on Vaisakhi Day, April 14th, 2009, to end the ban on Sikhs joining the US military.

Please show your support for equal opportunity in US Armed Forces and sign a petition on behalf of two US Army recruits, Captain Kamaljit Singh Kalsi and Second Lieutenant Tejdeep Singh Rattan, who are being forced to choose between their religious identity and service to their country. Both have maintained their Sikh identity while enrolled in an Army program which exchanges medical scholarships for military service and are discovering, only after four years, that they have been given unreliable information. Assurances made by recruiters that keeping their hair intact would be no problem are turning out to be false.

https://indianinthemachine.wordpress.com/2010/12/09/the-truth-about-hair-and-why-nativeindians-would-keep-their-hair-lon/                                                                                                                                             The Truth About Hair and why Indians would keep their hair long

Reported by C. Young

This information about hair has been hidden from the public since the Viet Nam War .

Our culture leads people to believe that hair style is a matter of personal preference, that hair style is a matter of fashion and/or convenience, and that how people wear their hair is simply a cosmetic issue. Back in the Viet Nam war however, an entirely different picture emerged, one that has been carefully covered up and hidden from public view.

In the early nineties,  Sally [name changed to protect privacy]  was married to a licensed psychologist who worked at a VA Medical hospital. He worked with combat veterans with PTSD, post traumatic stress disorder.  Most of them had served in Viet Nam.

Sally said, \” I remember clearly an evening when my husband came back to our apartment on Doctor\’s Circle carrying a thick official looking folder in his hands. Inside were hundreds of pages of certain studies commissioned by the government. He was in shock from the contents. What he read in those documents completely changed his life. From that moment on my conservative middle of the road husband grew his hair and beard and never cut them again. What is more, the VA Medical center let him do it, and other very conservative men in the staff followed his example.  As I read the documents, I learned why. It seems that during the Viet Nam War special forces in the war department had sent undercover experts to comb American Indian Reservations looking for talented scouts, for tough young men trained to move stealthily through rough terrain. They were especially looking for men with outstanding, almost supernatural, tracking abilities. Before being approached, these carefully !

selected men were extensively documented as experts in tracking and survival.

With the usual enticements, the well proven smooth phrases used to enroll new recruits, some of these indian trackers were then enlisted. Once enlisted, an amazing thing happened. Whatever talents and skills they had possessed on the reservation seemed to mysteriously disappear, as recruit after recruit failed to perform as expected in the field.

Serious casualities and failures of performance led the government to contract expensive testing of these recruits, and this is what was found.

When questioned about their failure to perform as expected, the older recruits replied consistantly that when they received their required military haircuts, they could no longer \’sense\’ the enemy, they could no longer access a \’sixth sense\’ ,  their \’intuition\’ no longer was reliable, they couldn\’t \’read\’  subtle signs as well or access subtle extrasensory information.

So the testing institute recruited more indian trackers, let them keep their long hair, and tested them in multiple areas. Then they would pair two men together who had received the same scores on all the tests.  They would let one man in the pair keep his hair long, and gave the other man a military haircut. Then the two men retook the tests.

Time after time the man with long hair kept making high scores. Time after time, the man with the short hair failed the tests in which he had previously scored high scores.

Here is a typical test:

The recruit is sleeping out in the woods.  An armed \’enemy\’ approaches the sleeping man.  The long haired man is awakened out of his sleep by a strong sense of danger and gets away long before the enemy is close, long before any sounds from the approaching enemy are audible.

In another version of this test the long haired man senses an approach and somehow intuits that the enemy will perform a physical attack. He follows his \’sixth sense\’ and stays still, pretending to be sleeping, but quickly grabs the attacker and \’kills\’ him as the attacker reaches down to strangle him.

This same man, after having passed these and other tests, then received a military haircut and consistantly failed these tests, and many other tests that he had previously passed.

So the document recommended that all Indian trackers be exempt from military haircuts. In fact, it required that trackers keep their hair long. \”

Comment:

The mammalian body has evolved over millions of years. Survival skills of human and animal at times seem almost supernatural. Science is constantly coming up with more discoveries about the amazing abilities of man and animal to survive.  Each part of the body has highly sensitive work to perform for the survival and well being of the body as a whole.The body has a reason for every part of itself.

Hair is an extension of the nervous system, it can be correctly seen as exteriorized nerves, a type of highly evolved \’feelers\’ or \’antennae\’ that transmit vast amounts of important information to the brainstem, the limbic system, and the neocortex.

Not only does hair in people, including facial hair in men, provide an information highway reaching the brain,  hair also emits energy, the electromagnetic energy emitted by the brain into the outer environment. This has been seen in Kirlian photography when a person is photographed with long hair and then rephotographed after the hair is cut.

When hair is cut, receiving and sending transmissions to and from the environment are greatly hampered. This results in numbing-out .

Cutting of hair is a contributing factor to unawareness of environmental distress in local ecosystems.  It is also a contributing factor to insensitivity in relationships of all kinds. It contributes to sexual frustration.

Conclusion:

In searching for solutions for the distress in our world, it may be time for us to consider that many of our most basic assumptions about reality are in error.  It may be that a major part of the solution is looking at us in the face each morning when we see ourselves in the mirror.

The story of Sampson and Delilah in the Bible has a lot of encoded truth to tell us.   When Delilah cut Sampson\’s hair, the once undefeatable Sampson was defeated.

[larsonstdoc]

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Sikh_Massacre%3A_%22One_Of_The_First_Cops_On_The_Scene_Told_The_Mayor_To_Prepare_For_A_Mass_Shooting_WEEKS_AGO%22/20905/0/38/38/Y/M.html


  Video at the link

Sikh Massacre: "One Of The First Cops On The Scene Told The Mayor To Prepare For A Mass Shooting WEEKS AGO"

[starvosan]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sikh-temple-police-20120807,0,542686.story
(Police Chief John)Edwards said some people have reported that Page had a 9/11 tattoo that was a clue to his motivation....  There is one problem with that theory, the chief said: "He did not have a 9/11 tattoo anywhere on his body."

In that case, the chief has a problem with his theory, because the witnesses to the suspect's 911 tattoo aren't just those at the shooting site:

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=141854
Peter Hoyt, who lives about a block from Page's last apartment, said he spoke with Page about a dozen times. Hoyt remembered Page having a "9/11" tattoo on his arm but could not describe it.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/08/the-man-with-the-911-tattoo.html
Many in the temple had mentioned a 9/11 tattoo, and a neighbor that the Journal-Sentinel spoke to, a fourteen-year-old named Amber Young, confirmed that:
“He was walking his dog and it was right there,” she said pointing to her own upper right arm.


There was, however, one person on scene who very definitely had a 911 tattoo:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/08/the-man-with-the-911-tattoo.html
--the authorities in Oak Creek, despite the assurances that Page was the only shooter, are looking for a second man, a “person of interest” who was in the crowd around the temple. He seemed to be filming people; he also had a 9/11 tattoo.
(Hours later, police claim they interviewed and cleared him of involvement.)



It's the "Second 0swald" all over again!  0ne tattoo, two suspects, and three aliases(Vanbuskirk, Pierce, and Page).


/

[DireWolf]

Everything that I have seen being puked out by the MSM is pinning it on a single shooter and hyping the hell out of it.

Expect more same style shootings, more movie theater theatrics from the MSM in hopes of getting emotion to override logic.

[Effie Trinket]

Everything that I have seen being puked out by the MSM is pinning it on a single shooter and hyping the hell out of it.

Expect more same style shootings, more movie theater theatrics from the MSM in hopes of getting emotion to override logic.

Look at this, someone asks a totally logical question that everyone in the world should be asking:
"Witnesses say multiple attackers, media pushes the lone nut Michael Page guy... what's wrong with America's math?"

What's wrong with people who can't comprehend that initial reports during chaotic, traumatic events are never completely accurate?  It's amazing what you'll believe as absolute truth if it happens to fit what you wish was true

Who the f*ck talks like that?  He gets to declare that accuracy is automatically thrown out the window during "chaotic, traumatic events"?  The only person who would say that is someone who is expressly trying to defend MSM narratives.  He also silently ignores the fact that every PAST "chaotic, traumatic event" that has happened years, or even a decade+ ago, has never actually been investigated, but rather the narrative was upheld.  A person like this wants people to SHUT THE F*CK UP and be ridiculed into a corner and be bludgeoned until they stop posting or are in agreement with the MSM.  

[TahoeBlue]

FBI News conf. - Page dies of self-inflicted shot to the head.
Temple video cameras were turned off - no video evidence

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sikh-shooting-guns-20120807,0,7536671.story
Sikh temple shooting: Gun shop owner says Wade Page seemed normal
...
Kevin Nugent, owner of the Shooters Shop, about eight miles southwest of Milwaukee in West Allis, Wis., told The Times that Page came looking for a handgun on July 28.  [ Batman shooting was July 20 ]

“He asked about a 9 millimeter,” Nugent said Tuesday. Nugent said Page did not look strange and appeared calm.

“He didn’t have a shaved head or 9/11 tattoo. He didn’t talk stupid or act stupid,” Nugent said. “He raised no eyebrows whatsoever.”
...

Page paid $650 cash for a Springfield Armory XDM  with three 19-round ammunition magazines, which Nugent called “a nice duty weapon.” Page picked up the gun at the shop two days later, took it down to the shop’s basement range for some target practice, and left soon after without incident, Nugent said. He said Page did not buy any other firearms or ammunition at the store.
...