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Author Topic: Supreme Court Ruling on Health Care this morning  (Read 7960 times)
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« Reply #80 on: July 02, 2012, 12:37:15 PM »


I wonder whether the chief justice realizes what he and the progressive wing of the court have done to our freedom. If the feds can tax us for not doing as they have commanded, and if that which is commanded need not be grounded in the Constitution, then there is no constitutional limit to their power, and the ruling that the power to regulate commerce does not encompass the power to compel commerce is mere sophistry.


It is not sophistry.  The law applies only to whom it applies.

Methinks the Judge is missing a key aspect to this... the federal Congress' excise taxing authority is limited to its geographic and subject matter jurisdiction.

Couple this foundation of law with the fact that the vast majority of People [merely] believe they are liable for federal income tax (and FICA, Medicare/Medicaid, etc), it is not rocket science to see that liability is being created where none should exist.  Private payers wrongfully demand that prospective workers fill out federal tax forms (W4, W9) when they have no lawful, legal or moral obligation to do so, and then send the IRS other federal tax forms (W2, 1099) that both convey a lie about the nature of the activity and a compensation amount that, due only to being noted on the form, is 100% taxable.

Is this clicking for anyone yet?  Are you seeing the game for what it is?  This ruling is not the issue, but actually should be considered a great clarification... shining a spotlight on the truth.  Whether it is a good thing or not is none of my damn business... I AM NOT A "U.S. PERSON", "FOREIGN PERSON", or a "U.S. CITIZEN RESIDING ABROAD WITH FOREIGN SOURCED INCOME" (quotes because there are legal terms).  Are you?
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« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2012, 03:49:29 AM »

I am sure after the election the Republicans well do an half ass job at repealing Obamacare, and than a in a few years support it, and work on expanding it and making it stronger.
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« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2012, 08:50:38 PM »

I bet they'll replace it with Romneycare.  Angry
I am sure after the election the Republicans well do an half ass job at repealing Obamacare, and than a in a few years support it, and work on expanding it and making it stronger.
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« Reply #83 on: July 18, 2012, 08:57:34 AM »

If the case had been decided on its merit as presented to the S.C., that being whether it was constitutional under the commerce clause, it would have been struck down. Instead, the S.C. saw fit to invent a plausible way so enactment would be legal. This is nothing new for the S.C., they and other lower courts have been legislating from the bench which is not their turf. Legislation is the purview of Congress.

Article I, Section 8, of the U.S. Constitution: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes...  Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is the S.C. given even the inkling of power in this venue. It has been this act of legislating from the bench which has greatly contributed to the decline of this nation.

For the Chief Justice to take it upon himself and reclassify Obama care as a tax only proves the dismantling of the U.S. is an agenda from the top down.

A great resource to read in this regard: The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Constitution by Kevin R.C. Gutzman, J.D., Ph.D.
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« Reply #84 on: July 18, 2012, 07:44:59 PM »

 Yes, dismantling, or in layamns ters, screwing everthything this this nation -Gov was supposed to be, for the people and by the people.
  Divisions, / Gov/ citizens. Lets cut to it, do we truly have a say, does voting seem tom atter a twit, whas our hor globaly fallne to the bottom rung, i our nation infiltrazted and basically dominated by the NWO-Elittes, o are we living the american dream.
  Honor, y sure, tell it to the 3 K's and familys, the whiistle blowers, the 3 million in Nam, the hundred ot thousands familys vitcims in Iraq amone many others.
  Without honor, a country will fall. Show me the national conscience of this nation, please.
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