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« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2012, 01:10:07 PM »

BOE releases King-Geithner Libor correspondence
13 July 2012
, by Greg Robb - Washington (MarketWatch)
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/boe-releases-king-geithner-libor-correspondence-2012-07-13

Bank of England Governor Mervyn King said that then New York Fed President Timothy Geithner's recommendations for improvements to the calculation of the London InterBank Offered Rate, or Libor, "seem sensible," according to a June 3, 2008 email released by the BOE on Friday.

The Libor rate is now at the center of an international banking scandal. In his June 1, 2008 memo to King, Geithner proposed six reforms of Libor.

The emails show that the BOE passed the recommendations on to the British Bankers Association.

In a statement, the BOE said that "no evidence of deliberate wrongdoing had been cited" at the time of the correspondence.

Central bankers were responding to concerns about the difficulties in settling Libor in the stressed market conditions of late 2007 and 2008.

The New York Fed is expected to release more documents later Friday in response to inquiries from members of Congress about Geithner's and the New York Fed's efforts to address questions about Libor.

The New York Fed said the documents will show that the New York Fed took prompt action to highlight problems with Libor and press for reform.
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« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2012, 09:02:13 AM »

A must read cause it makes crystal clear why Libor was rigged together with the selling of huge amounts of interest rate swaps.

The Real Libor Scandal ~Paul Craig Roberts and Nomi Prins
14 July 2012
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http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/07/14/the-real-libor-scandal/

This boils it down I think:

“… Libor rates were manipulated lower as a means to bolster the prices of bonds and asset-backed securities. ”

“… despite the negative interest rate, investors were making capital gains from their Treasury bond holdings, because the prices were rising as interest rates were pushed lower”

“…, Wall Street has been selling huge amounts of interest rate swaps, essentially a way of shorting interest rates and driving them down. Thus, causing bond prices to rise.

Secondly, fixing Libor at lower rates has the same effect. Lower UK interest rates on government bonds drive up their prices.”

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« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2012, 09:12:58 AM »

Question is what will happen from here with these Libor interest rates now this all has come out?

Notin I think. Yeah, ofcourse some whitewashing will take place or rather is taking place with Diamond being the fall guy. Same ol, same ol …

Mybe the other Dimon (what’s with these names?) has to go and that’s it.


Well her you have it:

A 33% Minimum Probability Of Criminal Charges Against JP Morgan In Lieborgate?
15 July 2012
, by Tyler Durden (Zero Hedge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/33-minimum-probability-criminal-charges-against-jp-morgan-lieborgate#comment-2617259
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« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2012, 12:02:03 AM »

Capital Account: Paul C. Roberts on “the REAL LIBOR scandal” and “Bond Market Armageddon!” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLZjwBjqT_s
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« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2012, 12:51:27 AM »

Criminal Inquiry Shifts To JPMorgan's Mispricing Of Hundreds Of Billions In CDS: Is Dimon The Next Diamond?
16 July 2012
, by Tyler Durden (Zero Hedge)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/criminal-inquiry-shifts-jpmorgans-mispricing-hundreds-billions-cds-dimon-next-diamond

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Here's the problem: nobody will be stupid enough to believe for one second that the marks on hundreds of billions in securities passed from the front office straight to JPM's 10-Q without vetting by middle office, back office, Treasury office, and even in some cases, counterparties. In other words, if JPM is indeed stupid enough to attempt to pull a "Fabrice Tourre" on CIO, it won't work.

Actually scratch that: it may work, but it will involve a "fine", i.e., a bribe of about $1 billion to the SEC, and countless promises of perpetual campaign donations to all the other corrupt members of congress and the senate.

Which if this fraud flies by unscathed will mean all of them.

Ironically, if only JPM had indeed been honest, and told the public that not only did it have a loss, but it had discovered "material lapses in internal control" back on May 10 when the story hit, it would be a non-event by now.

Instead, with the phased in revelations of events that even the most inexperienced trader knows full well all took place at the same time, it is becoming very obvious that Jamie Dimon and crew are merely hiding more and more revelations in some dark corner.

And what is scariest is that all this excludes the liability that the bank will with absolute certainty have as a result of Liborgate, and that it is one of the only three US members of the USD Libor fixing committee at the British Banksters Association.

We will leave the final words to our good friend from Bloomberg Jonathan Weil, who said that

"It was once inconceivable that Dimon might someday wind up like Barclays CEO Bob Diamond, who resigned last week after that company's Libor scandal broke wide open. It's not anymore."

It certainly is not.
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« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2012, 12:54:13 AM »

Libor inquiry gutted of critical MPs
13 July 2012
, by Ian Dunt (Politics)
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2012/07/13/libor-inquiry-gutted-of-critical-mps

The two MPs who managed to draw blood from Bob Diamond have been left off the parliamentary Libor inquiry, according to reports.

Tory Andrea Leadsom and Labour MP John Mann have been dropped from the Libor investigation, despite the widespread recognition they received for interrogating the Barclays boss.

"[Andrew Tyrie, chairman of the Treasury committee and the Libor inquiry] had already reached his conclusions before he whitewashed Libor scandal," Mann tweeted angrily this morning.

"Because we're too outspoken we've been blocked. Total whitewash."

Branding the development a "total joke", Mann then threatened to start up his own inquiry.

Leadsom may be suffering the reprecussions of her comments after the Diamond session, when she admitted it was "useless" in taking on the bank boss.

She was also criticised by some in her own party when she suggested George Osborne should apologise for linking Ed Balls to the Libor scandal.

The Treasury committee members who will sit on the Libor inquiry are understood to be John Thurso, Andrew Love, Pat McFadden and Mark Garnier.

Michael Fallon and Jessie Norman - both of whom have extensive experience of the banking sector - were also left out.

The prime minister's spokesman insisted all three main parties had agreed on the membership list.

"The membership of the committee is something for the political parties and they have agreed between themselves who can serve," he said.

Some of the MPs on the Libor inquiry - such as Love - were widely criticised for their inability to forensically question the Barclays boss or critically appraise his evidence.

Others performed relatively well, but the exclusion of the two most effective MPs will lead to questions about the inquiry's ability to get to the bottom of the scandal.

Leadsom, a former banker, was able to ask detailed questions about the culture and practise of the bank when it 'lowballed' its Libor rating.

Mann's bombastic, aggressive approach made Diamond visibly uncomfortable.

Among his several attacks on on the bank boss, he told him: "Either you were complicit in what was going on, or you were grossly negligent, or you were grossly incompetent."

In a more encouraging sign, No.10 confirmed counsel wold be allowed to examine witnesses", allowing MPs and QCs to work in tandem.
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« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2012, 02:38:26 AM »

Libor inquiry gutted of critical MPs
13 July 2012
, by Ian Dunt (Politics)
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2012/07/13/libor-inquiry-gutted-of-critical-mps

...

Some of the MPs on the Libor inquiry - such as Love - were widely criticised for their inability to forensically question the Barclays boss or critically appraise his evidence.

Others performed relatively well, but the exclusion of the two most effective MPs will lead to questions about the inquiry's ability to get to the bottom of the scandal.

Leadsom, a former banker, was able to ask detailed questions about the culture and practice of the bank when it 'lowballed' its Libor rating.

Mann's bombastic, aggressive approach made Diamond visibly uncomfortable.

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« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2012, 04:50:18 PM »

Libor Reported as Rigged in ’08 Proving 2012’s Revelation
19 July 2012
, by John Detrixhe (Bloomberg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-18/libor-reported-as-rigged-in-08-crisis-proving-revelation-in-12.html

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Barclays Plc’s admission that it rigged the London interbank offered rate shows regulators, central bankers and politicians weren’t paying attention when everyone from Citigroup Inc. to the Bank for International Settlements indicated that the measure was being manipulated.

The BIS signaled in March 2008 that the benchmark was being misstated.

A month later, analysts at Citigroup suggested the same.

In May of that year, one of Barclays’s own strategists said the numbers reported by banks “were a lie.”


Bottom Up Line: The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) in Basel knew about the LIBOR rate rigging but didn’t do notin!

Instead they blame the failure in central bank regulation on politicians while it’s their task to get the banks in line.

BIS in Basel during WOII: “The Bank must survive at any cost." I repeat: “At any cost.”

BIS in Basel, Banking with Hitler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YauM5dHLn1s

In WOII the banks also funded both parties. The Rotschilds and Rockefellers funded Hitler and the U.S.

Allied bombers who bombed the Nazi industry where ordred to spare the GM factories inside NAZI Germany. The banks even had meetings during the war as if no war was there.

And now the bankers play out the same scenario. Before WOII started the US also had an huge debt that’s why they don’t care about it. Also an economical crises.

Japan was forced to war by isolation just as Iran will be forced to war.

Bush and Hitler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8AdSHKywEU

The Bush-Rockefeller-Dulles-Harriman Nazi scandal by John Loftus Federal Prosecutor http://thecounterpunch.hubpages.com/hub/The_Bush-Nazi_scandal_by_John_Loftus_former_Federal_Prosecutor
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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2012, 05:13:41 PM »

Taibbi on Democracy Now! LIBOR and More
19 July 2012
, by Matt Taibbi (Rolling Stone)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/taibbi-on-democracy-now-libor-and-more-20120719

Matt Taibbi: Libor Rate-Fixing Scandal “Biggest Insider Trading You Could Ever Imagine”
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« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2012, 07:18:17 PM »


What Libor Means for You

By KIRSTEN GRIND

As regulators investigate whether banks rigged a key interest rate, some of the biggest losers—and winners—might be consumers.

Global banks stand accused of manipulating the London interbank offered rate, or Libor—a scandal that has ensnared at least 16 financial institutions. The British bank Barclays in June paid more than $450 million to settle allegations by U.S. and British authorities that its executives and traders had rigged Libor.

Libor affects private student loans and many other consumer products.

Libor is tied to trillions of dollars in swap agreements and other derivatives—which can affect investors—as well as loans to individuals and businesses. It also often determines payouts to consumers who invest in the $12 trillion U.S. fund industry.

The most-affected products include private student loans, adjustable-rate mortgages, money-market funds and bank-loan funds. Some business loans and credit cards also are tied to Libor.

The extent of the problem still is murky. Banks are accused of suppressing Libor during the years surrounding the U.S. financial crisis in 2008, which has been the focus of recent court claims. But the breadth of manipulation and the amount the rate was artificially kept low still isn't clear.

Separately, traders at some global banks are alleged to have colluded to try to manipulate Libor. Their alleged actions may have sent key rates up as well as down, according to regulatory documents. If rates were kept artificially low, borrowers are likely to have benefited from better loan rates, while investors were likely shortchanged on returns, according to experts.

Several big U.S. asset managers, including BlackRock and Vanguard Group, say they are investigating whether their funds have been harmed.

"It's an unbelievable, gargantuan task to figure out," says Eric Jacobson, director of fixed-income fund research at investment researcher Morningstar.

Here is how consumers and investors might be affected:

Mutual Funds
Some mutual-fund investors are likely to have been hit by the Libor scandal. A variety of funds invest in securities and other financial instruments with returns tied to Libor. Investors could have been receiving a lower yield than they should have if banks were rigging the rate lower.

Experts say there are some funds that are likely to be more harmed than others.

Money-market funds, with assets of about $2.6 trillion in the U.S., invest in short-term-debt instruments with returns that are sometimes tied to Libor.

Bank-loan funds, which invest in syndicated loans tied to Libor, could also be significantly affected. The funds, which have become increasingly popular, had about $60.9 billion in assets as of June, Morningstar says.

Scott Page, director of bank loans at Eaton Vance says he is closely watching the Libor situation with a particular interest on its effect on bank-loan funds. Mr. Page's team manages $25 billion in bank-loan assets.

"We are almost 100% Libor-based," he says.

In addition, 15 mutual funds with assets totaling $23.8 billion, spread across a variety of categories—such as nontraditional bond funds and alternative funds—use Libor as their primary benchmarks, according to Morningstar. That means their relative performance might have skewed artificially high during the time Libor was suppressed. They range from Goldman Sachs's GS Strategic Income to Pacific Investment Management Co.'s Pimco Floating Income.

Many other funds could have been affected by rate-rigging because they invest in derivatives, and many derivatives have rates tied to Libor. That means investors in bond funds could have been harmed, says Morningstar's Mr. Jacobson.

On the other hand, funds investing in derivatives could have benefited. If a fund entered into an interest-rate swap and paid a floating rate based on Libor, it might have paid less than it should have.

There is little investors can do as regulators and fund companies sort out the extent of the problem. Fund companies could file suit to recoup any losses investors have suffered.

Charles Schwab Corp. one of the largest managers of money-market funds, has taken action already. The company and several of its funds filed three suits in August 2011 against a number of large banks, including Barclays and J.P. Morgan Chase, accusing them of setting Libor artificially low, according to court documents originally filed in the U.S. District Court for Northern California. The banks have filed motions to dismiss the cases.

Loans
While investors might have suffered as a result of rate-rigging, some borrowers might have benefited—such as those with adjustable-rate mortgages.

About 9% of all U.S. mortgages, or 4.4 million, are Libor-indexed adjustable-rate mortgages as of February, according to the Center for Responsible Lending. If the rate was rigged higher, however, borrowers could have paid more.

Borrowers of private student loans, whose rates are tied to Libor, also might have received a better deal. Most of the $150 billion in outstanding private student loans have variable rates, says Mark Kantrowitz, publisher of Finaid.org, a financial-aid website.

About 7% of the $116 billion in new student loans issued during the 2011-12 award year are private, he says.

Of course, if borrowers have benefited from lower rates on mortgages and other loans, that means their lenders have suffered—along with investors in bank stocks. New York lender Berkshire Bank recently filed a lawsuit against 16 global banks alleging that it was cheated out of interest income on loans that were artificially suppressed.

Borrowers, however, shouldn't have to worry that they will be forced to make up the difference on an interest rate that should have been lower, experts say.

It would be difficult for lenders to untangle which borrowers were paid when, and at which rate, says Steve Walsh, president of Scout Mortgage in Scottsdale, Ariz. "You can't go backward."

more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443545504577565120728037852.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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