Rat Paul Votes NO on GMO Labeling

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Rand Paul Votes NO on GMO Labeling
http://farmwars.info/?p=8686

Barbara H. Peterson

Farm Wars

Thought that endorsing Romney was bad enough? In another turn of events that exposes the corporatist leanings of Rand Paul, Senator from Kentucky, he has voted NO on a GMO labeling amendment to the farm bill “to permit States to require that any food, beverage, or other edible product offered for sale have a label on indicating that the food, beverage, or other edible product contains a genetically engineered ingredient.” The following is taken from the United States Senate Website.

[Dok]

well hes a tool.

[bento]

Shows 3/4's of our senators need to be dismissed.

[Geolibertarian]

Actually, far from "selling out," Rand was actually being true to his Austrian School principles with this vote.

Because let's face it: mandating the labeling of GMO foods is a government "regulation," and according to the anarcho-capitalist dogma of the Austrian School, all government regulations -- not just most -- are bad and evil by definition.

(Never mind the fact that corporations wouldn't even exist in the first place were it not for government-issued charters, and wouldn't be as powerful as they are were it not for court-sanctioned "corporate personhood").

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pin8fbdGV9Y&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLFA50FBC214A6CE87

[EvadingGrid]

Actually, far from "selling out," Rand was actually being true to his Austrian School principles with this vote.

Because let's face it: mandating the labeling of GMO foods is a government "regulation," and according to the anarcho-capitalist dogma of the Austrian School, all government regulations -- not just most -- are bad and evil by definition.

(Never mind the fact that corporations wouldn't even exist in the first place were it not for government-issued charters, and wouldn't be as powerful as they are were it not for court-sanctioned "corporate personhood").

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pin8fbdGV9Y&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLFA50FBC214A6CE87

You are quiet right

Regulation according to Austrian Cult is bad.

[Valerius]

I've been looking at discussions on other websites and it seems A LOT of education is necessary because some people litterally do not know the difference between GMOs and ordinary hybridization.


Not only that, but we have a states rights issue here.

[Geolibertarian]

I've been looking at discussions on other websites and it seems A LOT of education is necessary because some people litterally do not want to know the difference between GMOs and ordinary hybridization.

Fixed.

[egypt]

Clear case of being compromised and mind-controlled.

In his speeches I listened to, he was all for eating what we wanted and knowing what it was.  The light in his eyes with these things was telling.

Politicians should be the ones who are monitored at all times.  Politicians should have zero meetings in private with anyone.

Poor Rand.  Poor Dr. Paul.

[swimreferee]

Wow looked at a list of GMO's and no wonder they swat team your local farm and your garden. Your Local Grocery Store is your GMO store. 


http://opposingdigits.com/forums/post-62.html


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Act II Microwave Popcorn
# (ConAgra) Butter
# Extreme Butter
# Corn on the Cob

Frito-Lay*
(PepsiCo)
# Lays Potato Chips
(all varieties)
# Ruffles Potato Chips
(all)
# Doritos Corn Chips
(all)
# Tostitos Corn Chips
(all)
# Fritos Corn Chips
(all)
# Cheetos
(all)
# Rold Gold Pretzels
(all)
# Cracker Jack Popcorn

Healthy Choice Microwave Popcorn
(ConAgra)
# Organic Corn
(soy/canola oils)

Mothers Corn Cakes
(Quaker)
# Butter Pop

Orville Redenbacher Microwave Popcorn
(ConAgra)
# Original
# Homestyle
# Butter
# Smart Pop
# Pour Over

Orville Redenbacher Popcorn Cakes
# Chocolate
# Caramel

Orville Redenbacher Mini Popcorn Cakes
# Butter
# Peanut Caramel
# Chocolate Peanut

Pop Secret Microwave Popcorn
(Betty Crocker/General Mills)
# Natural
# Homestyle
# Jumbo Pop
# Extra Butter
# Light
# 94% Fat Free Butter

Pringles
(Procter & Gamble)
# Original
# Low Fat
# Pizza-licious
# Sour Cream & Onion
# Salt & Vinegar
# Cheezeums

Quaker Rice Cakes
# Peanut Butter
# Chocolate Crunch
# Cinnamon Streusel
# Mini
# Chocolate
# Ranch
# Sour Cream & Onion
# Apple Cinnamon
# Caramel Corn



Quaker Corn Cakes
# White Cheddar
# Caramel Corn
# Strawberry Crunch
# Caramel Chocolate Chip

*Frito has informed its corn and potato suppliers that the company wishes to avoid GE crops, but acknowledges that canola or other oils and ingredients in its products may be from GE sources

soda and juice drinks
GENETICALLY ENGINEERED INGREDIENTS


sodas

# Coca Cola Coca Cola
# Sprite
# Cherry Coke
# Barq's Root Beer
# Minute Maid Orange
# Minute Maid Grape
# Surge
# Ultra

PepsiCo
# Pepsi
# Slice
# Wild Cherry Pepsi
# Mug Root Beer
# Mountain Dew

Cadbury/Schweppes
# 7-Up
# Dr. Pepper
# A & W Root Beer
# Sunkist Orange
# Schweppes Ginger Ale

juice drinks

Capri Sun juices
(Kraft/Phillip Morris)
# Red Berry
# Surfer Cooler
# Splash Cooler
# Wild Cherry
# Strawberry Kiwi
# Fruit Punch
# Pacific Cooler
# Strawberry
# Orange
# Grape

Fruitopia
(Coca Cola)
# Grape Beyond
# Berry Lemonade
# Fruit Integration
# Kiwiberry Ruckus
# Strawberry Passion
# Tremendously Tangerine

Fruit Works
(PepsiCo)
# Strawberry Melon
# Peach Papaya
# Pink Lemonade
# Apple Raspberry

Gatorade
(Quaker)
# Lemon Lime
# Orange
# Fruitpunch
# Fierce Grape
# Frost Riptide Rush

Hawaiian Punch
(Procter & Gamble)
# Tropical Fruit
# Grape Geyser
# Fruit Juicy Red
# Strawberry Surfin

Hi-C
(Coca Cola)
# Pink Lemonade
# Watermelon Rapids
# Boppin' Berry
# Tropical Punch
# Smashin' Wildberry
# Blue Cooler
# Blue Moon Berry
# Orange
# Cherry

Kool Aid
(Kraft/Phillip Morris)
# Blastin' Berry Cherry
# Bluemoon Berry
# Kickin' Kiwi Lime
# Tropical Punch
# Wild Berry Tea

Ocean Spray
# Cranberry Juice Cocktail
# Cranapple
# CranGrape
# CranRaspberry
# CranStrawberry
# CranMango

Squeeze It
(Betty Crocker/General Mills)
# Rockin' Red Puncher
# Chucklin' Cherry
# Mystery 2000

Sunny Delight
(Procter & Gamble)
# Sunny Delight Original
# Sunny Delight With Calcium Citrus Punch
# Sunny Delight California Style Citrus Punch

Tang juices
(Kraft/Phillip Morris)
# Orange Uproar
# Fruit Frenzy
# Berry Panic

Tropicana Twisters
(PepsiCo)
# Grape Berry
# Apple Raspberry Blackberry
# Cherry Berry
# Cranberry Raspberry Strawberry
# Pink Grapefruit
# Tropical Strawberry
# Orange Cranberry
# Orange Strawberry Banana

V-8
(Campbells)
# V8 Tomato Juices
(all varieties)
# Strawberry Kiwi
# Strawberry Banana
# Fruit Medley
# Berry Blend
# Citrus Blend
# Apple Medley
# Tropical Blend
# Island Blend

soup
GENETICALLY ENGINEERED INGREDIENTS


# Campbell's Tomato
# Chicken Noodle
# Cream of Chicken
# Cream of Mushroom
# Cream of Celery
# Cream of Broccoli
# Cheddar Cheese
# Green Pea
# Healthy Request

* Chicken Noodle
* Cream of Chicken
* Cream of Mushroom
* Cream of Celery

# Campbell's Select

* Roasted Chicken with Rice
* Grilled Chicken with Sundried Tomatoes
* Chicken Rice
* Vegetable Beef

# Chunky

* Beef with Rice
* Hearty Chicken & Vegetable
* Pepper Steak
* Baked Potato with Steak & Cheese
* New England Clam Chowder

# Soup to Go

* Chicken Noodle
* Chicken Rice
* Garden Vegetable
* Vegetable Beef & Rice

# Simply Home

* Chicken Noodle
* Chicken Rice
* Garden Vegetable
* Vegetable Beef with Pasta



Healthy Choice
(ConAgra)
# Country Vegetable
# Fiesta Chicken
# Bean & Pasta
# Chicken Noodle
# Chicken with Rice
# Minestrone

Pepperidge Farms
(Campbell's)
# Corn Chowder
# Lobster Bisque
# Chicken & Wild Rice
# New England Clam Chowder
# Crab Soup

Progresso
(Pillsbury)
# Tomato Basil
# Chicken Noodle
# Chicken & Wild Rice
# Chicken Barley
# Lentil
# New England Clam Chowder
# Zesty Herb Tomato
# Roasted Chicken with Rotini
# Fat Free Minestrone
# Fat Free Chicken Noodle
# Fat Free Lentil
# Fat Free Roast Chicken

tomatoes and tomato sauces
GENETICALLY ENGINEERED INGREDIENTS


Del Monte
# (Nabisco/Phillip Morris) Tomato Sauce

Five Brothers Pasta Sauces
(Lipton/Unilever)
# Summer Vegetable
# Five Cheese
# Roasted Garlic & Onion
# Tomato & Basil

Healthy Choice Pasta Sauces
(ConAgra)
# Traditional
# Garlic & Herb
# Sun-Dried Tomato & Herb

Hunts
(ConAgra)
# Traditional Spaghetti Sauce
# Four Cheese Spaghetti Sauce
# Tomato Sauce
# Tomato Paste

Prego Pasta Sauces
(Campbells)
# Tomato, Basil & Garlic
# Fresh Mushroom
# Ricotta Parmesan
# Meat Flavored
# Roasted Garlic & Herb
# Three Cheese
# Mini-Meatball
# Chicken with Parmesan

Ragu Sauces (Lipton/Unilever)
# Old World Traditional
# Old World with Meat
# Old World Marinara
# Old World with Mushrooms
# Ragu Robusto Parmesan & Romano
# Ragu Robusto Roasted Garlic
# Ragu Robusto Sweet Italian Sausage
# Ragu Robusto Six Cheese
# Ragu Robusto Tomato, Olive Oil & Garlic
# Ragu Robusto Classic Italian Meat
# Chunky Garden Style Super Garlic
# Chunky Garden Style Garden Combo
# Chunky Garden Style Tomato, Garlic & Onion
# Chunky Garden Style Tomato, Basil & Italian Cheese
# Pizza Quick Traditional

[Constitutionary]

I've been looking at discussions on other websites and it seems A LOT of education is necessary because some people litterally do not know the difference between GMOs and ordinary hybridization.


Not only that, but we have a states rights issue here.

Sorry Valerius but GMOs are a national issue.  It does fall under the commerce clause.  Besides GMOs should be banned everywhere not just having them in one state and not in another then having to tax the hell out of the the non-GMO state to pay the health-care costs of all the GMO sicknesses that the pro-GMO state incurs.

No this has to be a Federal/national issue.

[Satyagraha]

They need to allow companies to add "Non-GMO" to their labels - so people can choose.
Then let market demand dictate what these companies should produce, based on choices.
I see "non-GMO" labels on many foods; and from what I understand, the FDA is trying to make it illegal to put "non-GMO" on labels.
We need a bill that states clearly that labeling foods "Non-GMO" is legal.

I'm not sure what else in this bill may have made Rand Paul vote "no". Since they bundle good stuff with tyrannical stuff, then ask for a vote, it's hard to know exactly why the "no" answer until we understand what ELSE was in the bill.

[Optimus]

I'm not sure what else in this bill may have made Rand Paul vote "no". Since they bundle good stuff with tyrannical stuff, then ask for a vote, it's hard to know exactly why the "no" answer until we understand what ELSE was in the bill.

I agree. Research is needed to see what else was in this bill, especially in the GMO labeling amendment that Rand voted Nay on.

Speaking of Rand, who thought it was a necessity to change his name in my thread title to "Rat" before we know all the facts for why he voted nay 

[Satyagraha]

I agree. Research is needed to see what else was in this bill, especially in the GMO labeling amendment that Rand voted Nay on.

I'm looking into that now...

Speaking of Rand, who thought it was a necessity to change his name in my thread title to "Rat" before we know all the facts for why he voted nay 

Not I.

[Satyagraha]

OMG what a freaking mess these bills are...
no WONDER these guys don't read (instead, depend on lobbyists to tell them how to vote).

Here's the info on this bill:

.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 112th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Amendment (Sanders Amdt. No. 2310 )
Vote Number:    161   Vote Date:    June 21, 2012, 12:36 PM
Required For Majority:    3/5   Vote Result:    Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number:    S.Amdt. 2310 to S. 3240 (Agriculture Reform, Food, and Jobs Act of 2012)
Statement of Purpose:    To permit States to require that any food, beverage, or other edible product offered for sale have a label on indicating that the food, beverage, or other edible product contains a genetically engineered ingredient.

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So starting with the GMO labeling amendment: S.Amdt. 2310 --> http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00161#position

Then read the Bill to which that amendment is added:  S. 3240 (Agriculture Reform, Food, and Jobs Act of 2012) --> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.3240:

Which will lead you to two separate documents:
1. Agriculture Reform, Food, and Jobs Act of 2012 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.3240.PCS][PDF] --> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c112:1:./temp/~c112SFuXOc::
2. Agriculture Reform, Food, and Jobs Act of 2012 (Engrossed in Senate [Passed Senate] - ES)[S.3240.ES][PDF] --> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c112:2:./temp/~c112SFuXOc::

[Satyagraha]

Here's the issue that is infuriating:

FDA won’t allow food to be labeled free of genetic modification: report

By admin
Saturday, September 18, 2010 23:05 EDT

‘Extra labeling only confuses the consumer,’ biotech spokesman says

That the Food and Drug Administration is opposed to labeling foods that are genetically modified is no surprise anymore, but a report in the Washington Post indicates the FDA won’t even allow food producers to label their foods as being free of genetic modification.

In reporting that the FDA will likely not require the labeling of genetically modified salmon if it approves the food product for consumption, the Post‘s Lyndsey Layton notes that the federal agency “won’t let conventional food makers trumpet the fact that their products don’t contain genetically modified ingredients.”

    The agency warned the dairy industry in 1994 that it could not use “Hormone Free” labeling on milk from cows that are not given engineered hormones, because all milk contains some hormones.

    It has sent a flurry of enforcement letters to food makers, including B&G Foods, which was told it could not use the phrase “GMO-free” on its Polaner All Fruit strawberry spread label because GMO refers to genetically modified organisms and strawberries are produce, not organisms.

    It told the maker of Spectrum Canola Oil that it could not use a label that included a red circle with a line through it and the words “GMO,” saying the symbol suggested that there was something wrong with genetically engineered food.

“This to me raises questions about whose interest the FDA is protecting,” House Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) told the Post. Kucinich has repeatedly introduced bills in the House that would require the labeling of genetically modified foods.

David Edwards, director of animal biotechnology at the Biotechnology Industry Organization, told the Post that “extra labeling only confuses the consumer. … It differentiates products that are not different. As we stick more labels on products that don’t really tell us anything more, it makes it harder for consumers to make their choices.”

The Post notes that the debate over genetically modified salmon, which will be decided at an FDA advisory panel meeting this week, “comes at a time when Americans seem to want to know more about their food – where it is grown, how it is produced and what it contains.”

“The public wants to know and the public has a right to know,” New York University nutrition professor Marion Nestle told the Post. “I think the agency has discretion, but it’s under enormous political pressure to approve [the salmon] without labeling.”

Source: Raw Story (http://s.tt/1dd9l)

Research FDA on GMO's: http://google2.fda.gov/search?q=GMO&client=FDAgov&site=FDAgov&lr=&proxystylesheet=FDAgov&output=xml_no_dtd&getfields=*

[Geolibertarian]

They need to allow companies to add "Non-GMO" to their labels - so people can choose.
Then let market demand dictate what these companies should produce, based on choices.

Agreed, but aren't there other issues concerning GMO that mandatory labeling is powerless to address?

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http://www.naturaltruth.co.uk/index.php/home/entry/how-the-world-is-being-destroyed-in-the-search-for-profits/monsanto-threatens-the-crops-of-the-whole-planet

Monsanto threatens the ecosystem, biosphere and crops of the whole planet

Posted by Lesley on Wednesday, 14 March 2012

(NaturalNews article) Monsanto's reckless disregard for public health and the agricultural stability of the planet may be even more significant than previously thought. A shocking new report reveals how Monsanto's Roundup is actually threatening the crop-yielding potential of the entire biosphere. The report reveals that glyphosate, which was developed by Monsanto in the early 1970s and is the active ingredient in its patented herbicide Roundup, may be irreversibly devastating the microbiodiversity of the soil - compromising the health of the entire planet, as a result.

New research published in the journal Current Microbiology highlights the extent to which glyphosate is altering, and in some cases destroying, the very microorganisms upon which the health of the soil, and - amazingly - the benefits of raw and fermented foods as a whole, depend. Concerningly, certain beneficial strains of bacteria used as food-starters in cultures for raw yogurt, such as Lactobacillus cremoris, have entirely disappeared from certain geographic regions where traditionally they were found in plenty. The study reports that the death and growth inhibition of selected food microorganisms was observed in concentrations of Roundup that are lower than are recommended in agricultural practice.

This means that farmers who are increasingly using larger and larger concentrations of Roundup and similar glyphosate-based herbicide formulations to countermand the increasingly resistant super weeds GM agriculture has spawned, are not only damaging the immediate health of the soil, but subsequent yields of indispensable food-starter microorganisms, as well as the microbes that ensure the overall fertility of the soil for producing crops well into the future.

Monsanto's Roundup assaults the planetary biosphere

Microorganisms are responsible for much more than just the health content of raw and fermented foods. The most numerous inhabitants in the web of life, microorganisms participate quite literally "at the root" of the nitrogen, phosphate, oxygen and carbon cycles, and are therefore indispensable for the health of the entire biosphere. Astoundingly, there are an estimated 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (6 x 10 to the 30th power) bacterial cells on the planet, and these soil microrganisms represent about 50 percent of the the total biodiversity in terms of numbers of species.

As Roundup usage threatens these soil microrganisms, including fungi and the mycellium (technically the largest organism in the world), it could lead to devastating implications. Compromising the health of the mycellium, in particular, may cause serious harm to the planet. According to prominent mycologist Paul Stamets, mycellium may actually act as a 'network' within the biosphere, acting as the Earth's 'natural internet' in which virtually all organisms may rely upon. It has been recognized throughout the ages that all life depends on the soil. Without healthy soil, the health of the entire planet is at risk.

Charles E. Kelogg was one individual who stated such in the USDA yearbook back in 1939. Kelogg said:

"Essentially, all life depends upon the soil ... There can be no life without soil and no soil without life; they have evolved together."

Franklin Delano Roosevelt also voiced similar concerns, warning:

"The nation that destroys its soil, destroys itself."

Based on an ever-increasing body of scientific evidence showing glyphosate biodegrades slowly, sinks down through the topsoil where it accumulates in the groundwater (source for natural drinking water, e.g. aquifers, springs), and is found in nearly all air and rain samples tested in the US, it is safe to say that Monsanto's best-selling Roundup is one of the greatest threats to human and environmental health ever created.

As the USDA continues to sit back and allow Monsanto to threaten the environmental stability of the planet, it becomes more apparent that the USDA and Monsanto are gladly willing to exchange the future of the planet and its inhabitants for short term gain. In fact, the USDA has even given Monsanto's latest GMO crops speedier approval in order to secure the company's profits, ignoring the numerous known harmful effects of Monsanto's past creations, e.g. Agent Orange, Aspartame, DDT.

The known effects of Roundup

The negative effects of Monsanto's Roundup on human health and the environment have been firmly established by numerous scientific studies and large-scale investigations, with scientists even linking the best-selling herbicide to conditions like infertility and cancer due to its genotoxic (DNA damaging) nature. Amazingly, even when diluted by 99.8 percent (450-fold lower dilutions than used in agricultural applications), Roundup still exhibits serious genotoxic characteristics and is harmful to the integrity of human DNA. Meanwhile, this carcinogenic herbicide product is used nationwide by unsuspecting homeowners and agricultural workers. According to the United States Geological Survey, 176 million lbs of glyphosate were used in the U.S. in 2007.

Outside of the public health realm, Roundup's startling environmental havoc is perhaps an even greater cause for concern. Despite being created to fend off weeds, Roundup is actually spawning resistant superweeds across millions of hectares (one hectare is 10,000 square metres), bankrupting farmers and destroying crop land. These resistant weeds currently cover over 4.5 million hectares in the United States alone, though experts estimate the world-wide land coverage to have reached at least 120 million hectares by 2010. The onset of superweeds is being increasingly documented in Australia, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Europe and South Africa.

The research is clear: Roundup is not only harming human health and damaging farmland, it is threatening the very biosphere itself by destroying microbial biodiversity, with the future agricultural stability of the planet, i.e. the ability to produce food through monoculturing, at serious risk of collapsing.

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I'm not sure what else in this bill may have made Rand Paul vote "no". Since they bundle good stuff with tyrannical stuff, then ask for a vote, it's hard to know exactly why the "no" answer until we understand what ELSE was in the bill.

True. However, knowing what I know about Austrian School dogma -- and in the absence of any formal statement by Rand concerning his view on what (if anything) the government should do about GMO foods -- it would be unwise to presume that he voted "no" on this bill in spite of his "support" of mandatory labeling rather than because of his opposition to it.

[Geolibertarian]

Not I.

Nor I.

(Although I don't think the name change is completely without merit.)

[egypt]

Sorry Valerius but GMOs are a national issue.  It does fall under the commerce clause.  Besides GMOs should be banned everywhere not just having them in one state and not in another then having to tax the hell out of the the non-GMO state to pay the health-care costs of all the GMO sicknesses that the pro-GMO state incurs.

No this has to be a Federal/national issue.

It's a human issue.  Why would any outfit, especially one in control and able to monopolize, be able to distribute poison as food?

[egypt]

ok, so now it is a semantics war?  Strawberries are produce, not organisms?  This is not true.  They are organisms sold as produce.

[Satyagraha]

Agreed, but aren't there other issues concerning GMO that mandatory labeling is powerless to address?

There are many issues, you're correct. People ought to have a right to KNOW what's in the food they buy.
Monsanto is a monster and should be shut down immediately. Labeling won't fix the fields full of terminator seeds, etc., that will require a massive uprising of people to protest Monsanto and their corporate/government machine.

I did a search for any information on Rand Paul's opinions of GMO food, etc., and could not find anything. If anyone else knows of an article, or video where he speaks about this issue, please post. He's been silent from what I can see.

However, the people at the DailyPaul website have not been silent:

Rand Paul votes NO on GMO labeling. What is going on?!
http://www.dailypaul.com/241603/rand-paul-votes-no-on-gmo-labeling-what-is-going-on
Submitted by freetoroam on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 18:28
in Daily Paul Liberty Forum

So, our body is the most valuable property we own. When we consume toxic "food" we are vulnerable to what the food does to our body. If it is tainted or altered it can destroy our body/property. Similar to pollution. We have a right to know what companies are putting into our environment. This effects our property. We don't live in individual bubbles. How can Rand Paul vote NO on GMO labeling? How are we supposed to protect our body/property without any information about the products we are consuming? Has Rand gone full neo-con? Sure this vote helps the corporations that use cheap GMO crops to make their products. It also leaves our population with a dangerous lack of information. Thanks AGAIN Rand.

http://farmwars.info/?p=8686

[JT Coyoté]

Sorry Valerius but GMOs are a national issue.  It does fall under the commerce clause.  Besides GMOs should be banned everywhere not just having them in one state and not in another then having to tax the hell out of the the non-GMO state to pay the health-care costs of all the GMO sicknesses that the pro-GMO state incurs.

No this has to be a Federal/national issue.

This is a world issue. But it may take local action around the world before it is seen as the poison it is on a broad enough scale to shut the stuff down...

The bastards know that they have the starving stomach on their side... and all who are against this stuff can be easily spun to be seen as favoring the starving of large populations.

The bottom line is that this stuff should not even exist and Rands vote can be seen as favoring this position if you look at it constitutionally. The Austrian school is no more to blame or equipped to deal with this than the Keynsian school and the demonizing of either is a red herring... It will require a massive up-swell from the people at large... a world wide movement of growing gardens and fighting the laws that ban them.

Fighting to the level of violence if need be federal and state laws including the drug laws which in 'one size fits all' style, bans growing crops because you might be growing drugs... this favors Big Agra, which can be shown demonstrably 100% is supplying and/or growing the GMO poison as well as a vast majority of the drug crops world wide...

Oldyoti

"One of the main purposes for the control
and power of the Establishment media is to
keep the masses deceived and ignorant about
their rights and oppressions of their rights."
~Charles Weisman

[Constitutionary]

Rand is either being blackmailed or mind controlled.

In either case his traitorous behavior should not slow the C4L movement in the least.

It is just what these Globalists would want.

Time to go from a libertarian to a rebelitarian mindset.

[donnay]

Let's forget government regulation.  The organic industry need to take it upon themselves to label their food packages "non-GMO," and we'll buy them.  Simple solution.

[chris jones]

 Maby some folks don't want to admit it, but lets be realisitic, this Randy BS has planted the seed of doubt in the his dads movement.
 
 Politicians (faces) realize how easy it is to bullshiite the masses, its a pyscho circus, they are the ring masters.

 Lets never forget the campaign promises Obama made , the crowds cheering , the flags wiggling.

 Randy P is lined right up there, nose first. Did we expect any less.

  

[egypt]

Satyagraha,

I only heard him on the subject when I listened to a speech in person.  He portrayed that he felt we should be able to eat what we want.

[JT Coyoté]

Let's forget government regulation.  The organic industry need to take it upon themselves to label their food packages "non-GMO," and we'll buy them.  Simple solution.

Great points Donnay, and a heck of a lot easier to accomplish for sure.

JTCoyoté

"The highest level of prosperity occurs when
there is a free-market economy and
a minimum of government regulations."
~Adam Smith, "The Wealth of Nations"

[Geolibertarian]

Looks like even Mike Adams is a freedom-hating "socialist" on this issue, right Austrian Schoolers?

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-case-for-mandatory-gmo-labeling-even-if-you-believe-in-limited-government-and-the-free-market.html

The case for mandatory GMO labeling – even if you believe in limited government and the free market

Mike Adams
Natural News
June 18, 2012

Now that the GMO labeling ballot measure has been officially accepted onto the California ballot, Monsanto is gearing up its propaganda campaign that aims to convince people you don’t need to know what you’re eating! Trust us, we’re the food companies! We never lie, do we?



For the record, I’m an opponent of most government mandates against individuals. When the government says you have to give your children vaccine shots, that’s a violation of your liberty. When Mayor Bloomberg says you can’t buy a 16 oz. soda in New York, that’s a violation of your liberty, too — even though I am opposed to soda consumption in general.

When the government says you can’t drink raw milk, or you can’t treat cancer with medicinal herbs, or you have to get EPA approval before building a house on your own neighborhood lot, those are all examples of government mandates against individuals gone terribly wrong.

But this GMO labeling ballot measure is not a government mandate against the People. In fact, it’s quite the opposite: A People-powered mandate against the corporations.

Forcing corporations to tell the truth

It is the People of California, after all, who developed this GMO labeling ballot measure, gathered the signatures, and put it on the ballot. And the point of it is solely to keep corporations honest about what they put in our food. It is, technically, merely an extension of existing food ingredient labeling laws, and I can’t think of a single person who would argue that food companies shouldn’t even be required to list food ingredients.

For the record, I’ve actually lived in a country where food ingredients were not required to be listed on labels. It was a nightmare trying to avoid MSG because food companies consistently and tirelessly seek to deceive consumers about what they put into foods. Without labeling laws, we would all soon be eating melamine, human fetal cells, and mystery chemicals of dubious origin (even beyond what we’re already eating).

If the GMO labeling issue were up to the government of California, there would be no ballot measure whatsoever. The biotech industry rules over corrupt government bureaucrats and politicians because it can always buy sufficient influence to kill any legislative initiative. Such is the reasoning behind a people-powered ballot measure: It is the one lawmaking mechanism still available to the People who can bypass corruption and go straight to the voters. Of course, even if passed, the ballot measure is subject to state Supreme Court interpretation, and that’s an important measure to make sure the masses of any state don’t enact a law that would deprive other people of their constitutional rights and liberties.

But GMO labeling is a threat to no one other than the deceptively-operated biotech industry itself. GMO labeling is an effort to force corporations to simply tell the truth on food labels so that moms, dads, children and everybody else can know what they’re buying and eating.

The proper use of regulatory power

The People forcing their state government to mandate honest food labels is one of the few legitimate applications of government regulatory power. This is true even if you believe, as I do, that government is too big, too oppressive, too arrogant and way too expensive. Today in America, we suffer from bloated government that has become a serious threat to the liberty of the People. Yet to take that argument and use it to say that GMO labeling mandates are an encroachment of liberties is a logic error: this mandate is directed solely at corporations with a proven track record of deceiving the People. In no way is GMO labeling encroaching upon individual rights or liberties. If anything, it actually empowers individuals with accurate information about their free market choices of what they’re buying.

The free market requires accurate information about products

One of the most fundamental concepts of the free market is that both producers and consumers benefit from access to accurate information about what they are buying or selling. This is fundamental to the efficiency of any free market. But biotech companies selling GMOs want the market to be a one-way mirror — they know what’s in the food but you don’t!

Consumers therefore don’t know what they’re buying, and thus you don’t have a free market… you have a contrived market where products are deceptively labeled to make sure that consumers do not have access to accurate information about what they’re buying.

Think about it: the successful selling of GMOs depends entirely on consumers not knowing they are buying them. Nearly every other product is sold because people actually want it: People buy vitamin C because they want vitamin C. They buy whole wheat bread because they want whole wheat. But they only buy GMOs because they are not aware they are buying GMOs.

Genetically engineered food ingredients, in other words, are purchased entirely by accident by nearly everyone who buys them. That’s not a free market. That’s not transparency. That’s deception. It is what destroys consumer confidence in the free market, thereby harming the efficiencies of the market itself.

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[Geolibertarian]

It is, technically, merely an extension of existing food ingredient labeling laws, and I can’t think of a single person who would argue that food companies shouldn’t even be required to list food ingredients.

Still can't think of a single person, Mike?

[Valerius]

Sorry Valerius but GMOs are a national issue.  It does fall under the commerce clause.  Besides GMOs should be banned everywhere not just having them in one state and not in another then having to tax the hell out of the the non-GMO state to pay the health-care costs of all the GMO sicknesses that the pro-GMO state incurs.

No this has to be a Federal/national issue.

I believe the amendment was to acknowledge States rights to require or not to require the truth in labeling. So it is a states rights case and all those who voted against it voted for the federal government to maintain exclusive control over food labeling.

[JT Coyoté]

I believe the amendment was to acknowledge States rights ^[Power] to require or not to require the truth in labeling. So it is a states rights case and all those who voted against it voted for the federal government to maintain exclusive control over food labeling.

I believe you are right on this... down sizing of federal power seems to be the key in this vote... besides, most companies already label their product contents under truth in labeling and out of courtesy to their customers... adding "GMO free" to the label will serve only make their product leap from the shelves at record speed...

50 state Departments of Purity in Commodity Services, testing for product truth in labeling, sharing information in a 10th Amendment style concerted effort would be superior to the uncontested monster FDA skewing tests and spewing lies at every turn, paid off by it's benefactor and controller, Big Agra.

JTCoyoté

"My agency in promoting the passage of the
National Banking Act [of 1864] was the
greatest financial mistake in my life. It has
built up a monopoly which affects every
interest in the country." ~Solomon P. Chase,
on his role in creation of the usury
central banking system in the US

[jofortruth]

There were over 300 Amendments to this Bill!

S. Amdt 2310 to S. 3240 Agriculutural reform food and jobs act was Rejected


   SA 2310. Mr. SANDERS (for himself and Mrs. BOXER) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S. 3240, to reauthorize agricultural programs through 2017, and for other purposes; which was ordered to lie on the table; as follows:

    On page 1009, after line 11, add the following:

   SEC. 12207. CONSUMERS RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT GENETICALLY ENGINEERED FOOD ACT.

    (a) Short Title.--This section may be cited as the ``Consumers Right to Know About Genetically Engineered Food Act''.

    (b) Findings.--Congress finds that--

    (1) surveys of the American public consistently show that 90 percent or more of the people of the United States want genetically engineered to be labeled as such;

    (2) a landmark public health study in Canada found that--

    (A) 93 percent of pregnant women had detectable toxins from genetically engineered foods in their blood; and

    (B) 80 percent of the babies of those women had detectable toxins in their umbilical cords;

    (3) the tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States clearly reserves powers in the system of Federalism to the States or to the people; and

    (4) States have the authority to require the labeling of foods produced through genetic engineering or derived from organisms that have been genetically engineered.

    (c) Definitions.--In this section:

    (1) GENETIC ENGINEERING.--

    (A) IN GENERAL.--The term ``genetic engineering'' means a process that alters an organism at the molecular or cellular level by means that are not possible under natural conditions or processes.

    (B) INCLUSIONS.--The term ``genetic engineering'' includes--

    (i) recombinant DNA and RNA techniques;

    (ii) cell fusion;

    (iii) microencapsulation;

    (iv) macroencapsulation;

    (v) gene deletion and doubling;

    (vi) introduction of a foreign gene; and

    (vii) changing the position of genes.

    (C) EXCLUSIONS.--The term ``genetic engineering'' does not include any modification to an organism that consists exclusively of--

    (i) breeding;

    (ii) conjugation;

    (iii) fermentation;

    (iv) hybridization;

    (v) in vitro fertilization; or

    (vi) tissue culture.

    (2) GENETICALLY ENGINEERED INGREDIENT.--The term ``genetically engineered ingredient'' means any ingredient in any food, beverage, or other edible product that--

    (A) is, or is derived from, an organism that is produced through the intentional use of genetic engineering; or

    (B) is, or is derived from, the progeny of intended sexual reproduction, asexual reproduction, or both of 1 or more organisms described in subparagraph (A).

    (d) Right to Know.--Notwithstanding any other Federal law (including regulations), a State may require that any food, beverage, or other edible product offered for sale in that State have a label on the container or package of the food, beverage, or other edible product, indicating that the food, beverage, or other edible product contains a genetically engineered ingredient.

    (e) Regulations.--Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act, the Commissioner of Food and Drugs and the Secretary of Agriculture shall promulgate such regulations as are necessary to carry out this section.

    (f) Report.--Not later than 2 years after the date of enactment of this Act, the Commissioner of Food and Drugs, in consultation with the Secretary of Agriculture, shall submit a report to Congress detailing the percentage of food and beverages sold in the United States that contain genetically engineered ingredients.

[jofortruth]

Sanders comments from Congressional Record page S. 4383 (pg 5, 6)

Mr. SANDERS. Madam President, this amendment is cosponsored by Senators BOXER and BEGICH and is sup-ported by over 40 pro-consumer organizations throughout the country, including Public Citizen, U.S. PIRG, the Center for Food Safety, and many others. This is a very conservative amendment. It says the American people should have the right to know what is in the food they and their children are eating and if that food contains genetically engineered products. This amendment grants States the authority to label genetically engineered food. It is not a mandate. It grants States that right—something which, by the way, is now taking place in 49 countries throughout the world. If the people in England, Germany, France, and dozens and dozens of other countries have labels allowing their people to know if they are eating food with genetically engineered products, States in the United States should have that right.

IMO, it's possible Rand disagreed with this issue being a State issue rather than a federal issue! I would agree with that! It would be crazy to have the 50 states voting different ways on this issue! It should be a requirement in all to have labeling that IDs GMO!

[Valerius]

Remember this nonsense:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_somatotropin#Regulation_inside_the_United_States

[Geolibertarian]

There were over 300 Amendments to this Bill!

Then why don't Rand and other "Tea Party" Republicans craft their own bill against Monsanto's genetic assault on our food supply?

Why must someone else always be the one to complain about it before they'll even acknowledge it as an issue?

Do they not realize that it isn't just "the poor" who are effected by this?

Is this yet another social problem we're supposed to make go away by parroting feel-good mantras about "liberty" all day long?

For crying out loud, people, your children are eating this crap!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0uls507hvM (The World According To Monsanto)

[jofortruth]

http://www.labelgmos.org/resources

[JT Coyoté]

The problem is the centrally controlled corporate/political mechanism at the heart of the testing agencies. This assures the likelihood for insider trades, political bribery, buy-offs, and blackmail, going undetected... it is much less likely to occur with 50 independent testing facilities doing the work, then vetting their findings through congress at the federal level.

What is found in one state can then be tested in the others for confirmation of results this will also stop political sabotage, just as the founders designed it... centralized power, or a monopoly power, at any level beyond what is spelled out directly in the Constitution should be quelled in all cases whether in government or corporate agencies of government.

This cleaning up of the agency process would be easier to facilitate if the states once again had representation at the federal level... this would mean the repeal of the 17th Amendment... I'm for that.

JTCoyoté

"If the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they
cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make
such laws and enforce them." ~Candidus, (aka Samuel Adams)
in the Boston Gazette, January 20, 1772

[egypt]

Personally, I don't know why this kind of thing like GMO should be regulated.  Instead, GMO engineering and resultant products should be viewed as a crime against humanity and they simply should be thrown in jail for it.

It should be a given that food is not poisonous, but instead, clean and healthful and nutritious.  Why else do we eat?  Same with the water.

So, there should be health standards for what is sold to consumers and checks to make sure those standards are met.  How could anyone be swayed from seeing to the consumer receiving quality food?     In reality however, free market would put bad ones out of business really fast.  Quality would be intense with competition and a good standard naturally occurs.

In truth, it would seem to boil down to locally-grown and manufactured food stuffs for healthful eating.  Sure, things can be canned and shipped overseas.  Things can be frozen or fresh and jet-planed overseas.  But this endless reshaping, and bio-engineering so that the strawberries and tomatoes can make a long trip is ridiculous.

It seems the more centralized and monopolized a big agra enterprise, the more it cannot even be regulated or checked.

I say shut down Big Agra, and get the local farmers going again.  Easy to check a farm for what you might like to buy from them.  The consumers can be the judge... no regulations necessary.

[bento]

Blatant double standard. If I forced fed people this stuff I would go to jail. But if the "worshiped' central "authorities" do it then it is acceptable and even admirable. Same goes for just about every thing else in this Authority worshiping, brain wasted, shallow thinking society. Just look at the worshiping of the TSA. Sovereignty(diversity) is a firewall against Tyranny(monopoly).

[worcesteradam]

hes a libertarian guys. what did you expect
Amazing how many democrats voted nay, though. Whats their reasoning.

[Valerius]

hes a libertarian guys. what did you expect
Amazing how many democrats voted nay, though. Whats their reasoning.

I believe a no vote is not libertarian in this case for the reasons brought up by a couple of people. It allows the federal government to curtails what the states do and prior FDA action even disuade manufacturers from bragging on the lack of certain contents most of us object to.