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« on: June 18, 2012, 04:56:33 AM »

This Will Make You Smarter, a book supposedly about "new scientific concepts" that will "improve your thinking". Its an anthology of articles by "the world's leading thinkers", including Richard Dawkins, PZ Myers, Michael Shermer, Lawrence Krauss, J. Craig Venter, Carl Zimmer, Sean M. Caroll, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennett. Just from those list of authors I could tell it was going to me more of a philosophy book than a science book.



Reading the contents page, we see things like this...

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PZ Myers, "The Mediocrity Principle"
Everything you as a human being consider cosmically important is an accident.

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Sean M. Carroll, "The Pointless Universe"
Looking at the universe through our anthropocentric eyes, we can't help but view things in terms of causes, purposes and natural ways of being.

No. no. no! This is not science. This is philosophy. Science is a process of testing hypotheses against empirical observations. In what way are articles discussing the meaning of existence (or lack of meaning) scientific?

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J. Craig Venter, "We Are Not Alone In The Universe"
There is a humancentric, Earthcentric view of life that permeates most cultural and societal thinking.

While it's true that we probably aren't alone in the universe, It's hardly scientific to state that as fact. Unless you have actual empirical evidence for alien life, you're relying on faith here.

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Richard Dawkins, "The Double-Blind Control Experiment"

Nice scientific title.

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Why do half of Americans believe in ghosts, three-quarters believe in angels, a third believe in astrology and three-quarters believe in hell.

... Oh. I thought science was supposed to be neutral to these questions.

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Lawrence Krauss, "Uncertainty"
In public parlance, uncertainty is a bad thing, implying lack of rigor and predictability.

I agree with this. Nothing is ever certain in science, and that's good. Too bad this author is a militant singularitist who is certain computers will inevitably become conscious.

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Michael Shermer, "Think Bottom Up, Not Top Down"
Almost everything important that happens in both nature and society happens from the bottom up, not the top down.

Michael Shermer, who once praised the Popular Mechanics article on 9/11 truth as "one of the best things ever done in the history of skepticism", talking about how politics, the economy and the internet are bottom-up constructs and therefore that somehow proves Darwinian evolution.

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Daniel Dennett, "Cycles"
The secret ingredient of improvement is always the same: practise, practise, practise.

Famous atheist Daniel Dennett talking about "Darwinian cycles" and how they were somehow present before even the first cell arose.

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Sam Harris, "We Are Lost in Thought"
Our relationship to our own thinking is strange to the point of paradox.

Famous atheist Sam Harris attacking religion, saying we must scrap it in favour of "science". Unfortunately these people have a rather warped definition of what science is.

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Carl Zimmer, "Life As A Side Effect"
Everyone would do well to overcome that urge to see agents where there are none.

How does it feel being a "side effect"?!

Only two of these articles can reasonably be considered a promotion of science - the ones by Dawkins and Krauss. There are hundreds more articles in this book from people I've never heard of, many of them good, but some even worse. An example...

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Daniel Goldman, "Anthropocene Thinking"
Beginning with cultivation and ending with the Industrial Revolution, our planet left the Holocene epoch and entered ... the anthropocene, in which humans erode the natural systems that support life.

DUN DUN DUUUUUNNNN!

The title promised me this book would make me smarter ... I want my money back. When did science get redefined to mean materialist, elitist intellectual circle-jerking? Newton, Galileo, Einstein and even Darwin - who frankly deserves better than these people - would be rolling in their graves.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 05:21:16 AM »

So basically it's a book about Atheism Roll Eyes Just a bunch of vertical thinkers IMO.
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 05:31:49 AM »

that is the science of today. no experimentation or observable deduction, just pure 100% speculation and proof verified by nothing more than the letters next to a name.

I said it amd that makes it truthful, and if you disagree that we will character assassinate you, for the high lords of make believe in the ibory towers of science have spoken.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2012, 05:44:02 AM »



Yai, yai, yai ... I don't know where to start!   Cry

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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 06:15:35 AM »

looks like a stupid marketer
but I'm sure it will be a success among pseudo intellectuals TED talk watchers, needs to be promoted on the NY Times, and Huff Post
Pew survey: Doubt of God growing quickly among millennials
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2012, 09:20:35 AM »

 Brain dipping.
 
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2012, 10:23:08 AM »

Yeah... sadly science today has taken on the worse traits that also sadly befalls most religions which in turn arises when people stop believing in something since they honestly believe but do so to simply be "right". Case in point, go to any one who believes in "modern" cosmology and tell them you disagree with Einstein's assumptions and watch how with how much venom they attack you with, not debate you, not try to have an honest discussion but just flat out try to burn you like you were a witch.

Hell, if you really want to see how badly science has fallen look at dark matter. The only reason we have dark matter is since the universe doesn't work the way their model predicts it should so rather then accepting the fact that they are wrong (you know, that little concept called falsification) they basically said, "F that noise! The universe is the one who's wrong!" and just made up enough mass to justify their model and then said that we just didn't see it since it was invisible. Yeah, I know; we all heard government cover stories that were more well thought out then this but... this is how far things have fallen.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2012, 12:18:32 PM »

 It's despicable, yes we have scientists  that could create countless items for the benefit of mankind.
 Where are they you wonder.
 They were fielded and recruited by our intelligence agency's or supercorps, talent hunters for the Agency etc.
Telsa comes to mind, a man on a level with Einstein, possibly even more advanced. He was slammed into the machine with no way out.
 Energy, electricity is a example, do we truly need oil for fuel, nuclear plants, etc or are there alternatives. Not the elites stuff, not solar power, wind, cost prohibitive solutions. Cheap energy, stuff the little people can survive with, you bet there are, the patents have been bought or the inventor waked out.
 The mind controll, the Bliders have battalions of intellectuals, geniuses on the pad this book is a example of the mindset they would have the masses fall for simply because they have credentials.
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2012, 06:11:20 AM »

couldnt agree more, its not science is philosophy and they often try to confuse the two
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2012, 07:14:56 AM »

Science, is a observable fact, if you can't observe it, it's not science, a hoax ia presented by speculation or an out right lie. Science, it must have substance and evidence that we can see, hear and handle,  it is faith.
Sadly we all have been deceived by the perpetual lie perpetuated upon us all, "all the true in the world adds up to one big lie".
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2012, 07:38:24 AM »

 Psalm 14:1
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2012, 10:00:50 AM »

Don't go blaming science for the brain washed, conflict of interest, corporate/NWO subsided, lack of critical thinking, bullsh** we have passed off on us now. It goes way beyond just a religious/secular debate and is more about manipulation; who is doing it, and for what reasons.
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2012, 11:04:18 AM »

I'm not blaming science, I love science. That's the point.
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2012, 10:42:09 AM »

Oh yeah. It's not that science has failed, it has a well defined set of rules which are logical and when followed helps eliminate error and bias, but rather it's the so called "scientists" who either ignore the principles of science whenever it fits them to do so and or the ones who simply turn off their mind and blindly follow just so they aren't the nail the gets hammered down that have. Yes, even most scientists are still in highschool mentally (to barrow a line from Geolibertarian).
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