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« on: June 17, 2012, 04:17:56 AM »

Dear Alex Jones,

Halleluia!
You, Alex Jones, have said the ‘C’ word (COMMUNITARIANISM) live on your radio show;
on the Wednesday, June 13 2012 edition of the Alex Jones Prison Planet Show.
Early on in the radio show:  20120613_WED_ALEX.MP3

However Alex, you refer, in this show, to communitarianism (which Bush Senior has called commutarianism) as being the same as communism.  It is very important to realise, and point out to the public, that it is not the same.  Alan Watt and Brian Gerrish among many others have also made this big mistake by saying, in talks to the public on YouTube and radio, that communitarianism is communism, so you are not alone in this by any means.  No scorn or blame is intended here, you just need to look into this much more deeply.

I would like to draw your attention to a wonderful lady in Alaska called Niki Raapana.  She truly is one of America’s national treasures. Niki has studied the growth of ‘the community movement,’ Agenda 21 and the issue and implications of ‘sustainability’ in great detail for a decade and a half.  Her in-depth studies and exposés have been incredibly, benevolently available for many years, totally free to all, and she has helped many people academically with little thanks, remuneration or referencing/accrediting!  Rosa Koire, of the new book ‘BEHIND THE GREEN MASK: U.N. Agenda 21’ is an acquaintance of hers and owes a great deal to Niki’s scholarly insights.

May I please strongly suggest an article on you website or even a debate on your show with this lady so she can explain exactly what she has discovered.  You and your audience would be absolutely fascinated.  Here is an article on this subject from her blog, ‘Living Outside The Dialectic,’
http://nikiraapana.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/niki-raapana-talks-to-herself-about.html

“……Q. What is communitarianism?

A. Communitarianism is a Dictatorship of the Community. Unlike communism, which established a Dictatorship of the Proletariat, communitarianism is the more advanced stage of human social evolution.

Q. Is this just a harder to pronounce version of communism?

A. No. The emerging communitarian global system has many similarities to both capitalism and communism. Most of its homeland judicial structure, land and resource use policies and social welfare programs were tested and perfected by totalitarian communists in Russia, South America, Europe and Israel. The communitarian's financial and economic system was tested in the western imperialist and capitalist nations as well as in many of the former colonial states and developing nations classified as Third World…….”

The magnitude of the “change” that is being slipped into place across this planet is staggering beyond belief! The coming changes are NOT good.   
Niki has worked it all out!  Everything you ever wanted to know about communitarianism but were afraid to ask – see her! 
Please read this article and then take the time to speak to one of the most enigmatic, influential and intelligent people in America.  She is an all-American heroine!

Yours sincerely,

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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 04:43:55 AM »

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=232841.0 (Rothschild and Rockefeller interests created the Libertarian-Communist dialectic)
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2012, 06:34:23 AM »


However Alex, you refer, in this show, to communitarianism (which Bush Senior has called commutarianism) as being the same as communism.  It is very important to realise, and point out to the public, that it is not the same.  Alan Watt and Brian Gerrish among many others have also made this big mistake by saying, in talks to the public on YouTube and radio, that communitarianism is communism, so you are not alone in this by any means.  No scorn or blame is intended here, you just need to look into this much more deeply.


Thanks for the link to Niki Raapana's site. Here's more info:
http://nikiraapana.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/niki-raapana-talks-to-herself-about.html

The basic 1848 communist theory was that capitalism and communism were two necessary, conflicting, temporary stages in human social development.

The final happy stage would arrive when the whole world descended into chaos and all sides to every conflict finally synthesized under one perfect ideology. Although Marx called the communism stage a dictatorship of the proletariat, he never said what the final stage would be called.

It's our thesis that the final stage in the Hegelian-Marxist dialectic is called communitarianism.

Q. Can you break this down into more bite size pieces?

A. We can try. Communitarianism can be broken down into four main sub sections.

1. philosophy
2. religion
3. political ideology
4. law

1. Philosophically, communitarianism is the final synthesis in the Hegelian dialectic. Communitarians insist that humanity cannot advance to its final evolutionary stage of perfection without the help of their expert planning, guidance and administrators, who are obviously much more enlightened than the rest of us common born sinners.

2. The religious basis for communitarianism rests in the oldest dialectic still in existence, the Talmud. Dr. Amitai Etzioni of the Institute for Communitarian Policy Studies at George Washington University in DC is the American guru. He's a former Israeli commando who studied the Talmud and the Kaballa, and according to him, this makes him the international "expert" on how to build more livable communities.

In his 30 plus published books and hundreds of articles, Etzioni laid out standard Hegelian justifications for military and community development interventions. His solution to staged Hegelian clashes between nations is to end all nations. Etzioni assures us that individual rights and liberties can only continue to exist if they are balanced against the common good. The least discussed fact about the new legal system is that all former laws must be made agreeable to the superior unwritten Talmud. Zionist led Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the rise of Islamic law in formerly Christian nations are part of a perfectly crafted Hegelian ploy to ensure a brutal, endless conflict continues to grow between the two primary religious barriers to communitarian global governance.

3.. Politically, it's the Third Way, Radical Middle theory that allows its followers to justify fascist warmongering on the corporate right and encourage peace actions of the antiwar left, at the same time. Hegel taught his followers to play both sides if necessary, to flip-flop back and forth, because long drawn out staged wars and senseless bloody conflicts are essential to human advancement.

Both Bushes and both Clintons were described many times in the American press as communitarians; Senator Barack Obama was hailed by the Democrats as the Third Way Wonder Boy in 2004.

4. Communitarian Law is the legal foundation for the emerging world justice system. It's the global standard of norms for rebuilding the world under a new model of governance with jurisdiction over all national state citizens. Internal structural changes necessary to adopting a global bureaucracy were outlined by the United Nations in Local Agenda 21. LA21 supports every UN Resolution of Rights adopted since its inception. This document expands the authority of global institutions and their global decrees into every private home and private business on the planet.

The foundation for America's conditioning to submit to communitarian law was slipped into the U.S. under the Administrative Procedures Act of 1946, at about the same time the United Nations was formed. Many of the 21st century UN LA21 land and resource use regulations are enforced by local American agencies operating under the authority of this sixty four year old act.

Q. What would you define as a communitarian crime?

A. Communitarian crimes are violations of community regulations. When Americans are charged with communitarian crimes, the procedure for due process is not the same as what happens when Americans are charged with actually hurting someone or damaging someone's property. Communitarian crimes do not require measurable property damages.

Communitarian criminals are people who took a risk, traded home farm products, sold or donated used children's clothing, harvested natural herbal remedies, made too much noise, had an argument, smoked or farted in public, got fat, made somebody feel bad, had a dirty kitchen or dirty kids, looked scary, talked to themselves, sat down on the sidewalk, didn't care enough about keeping the neighborhood clean, nice or safe, or refused to donate their private land to help save the trees, birds, fishes or animals.

The system is designed so that the agency that writes and adopts the communitarian law is also the agency that sits in judgment of the accused. The burden of proof is not on the state. There is no appeals process for communitarian crimes; only guilty people are charged with committing communitarian infractions of revised and updated ordinances.

[size=130pt]Q. What is Local Agenda 21?[/size]

A. LA21 itself is a lengthy, boring document (that few will ever take the time to read). It describes the goals and ultimate purpose of equitably micromanaging all global land, people and natural resources. LA21 suggests structural changes and specific legislation to be introduced in every nation. LA21 defined a vaguely benevolent system of Community Law that overrules all contrary national and state constitutional law. The UN's official 1987 definition of Sustainable Development is the communitarianized, spiritual version of Marx's atheistic "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

It's a real disadvantage to our nation that very few Americans know (or care) that every federal agency in the United States changed their mission statements to promote sustainability immediately after LA21 was adopted. Our leaders never once bothered to tell us that LA21 is based in communitarian law or that UN Sustainable Development principles violates our precise legal contracts that say our government has to defend our private property, private business, private farms, private medicine, private worship, and private lives from all invaders, foreign or domestic.

Q. Communitarian experts say a global government would be impossible to build. Do the communitarians really have the capacity to do what they swear they can never do?

A. Almost. The communitarian global governance model shifts public duties formerly performed by answerable public servants to unaccountable private-public partnerships and community oriented development police, and it adds new duties to their job descriptions every day. The terms for Communitarian global governance have been quietly adopted for over a century in legislation, private meetings and agreements between national leaders and international community developers. All the regions and regional trade unions have already been established. Every member state in the European Union has already adapted their national legal systems and formally adopted communitarian supremacy of law. In the United States and the United Kingdom, communitarian supremacy has been introduced quietly into the national systems under the guise of Free Trade Agreements (like the early EU), environmental and consumer protections, volunteerism, service training, healthy neighborhoods, neighborhood watch, neighborhood planning, Transit Oriented and ABCD Development, 2020 Visions, Rebuilding Community, The Wars on Terror, Drugs, Smoking and Obesity, and many more ways... all designed with one Common Purpose in mind.

Q. How do we learn to recognize communitarianism in our own community?

A. At the local level, Communitarian governance bypasses the normal municipal and county government apparatus. Every agency is merged with the others. it's called Interdepartmental Cross Training. There are no more separations of powers. Elected officials often hire city administrators and employ outside advisers and groups like ICLEI to draft communitarian plans and revised ordinances and regulations. New citizen responsibilities and requirements are swiftly adopted without debate by elected council members who all gain financially from the development games. (The list of Seattle Community Developers who earned high level posts in the Obama administration is long.) The day-to-day redevelopment of each individual community is administered by lower-level, un-elected and self-appointed councils, boards, committees, international partners, advisers and community development teams, many of whom don't have the first clue what they're working to implement.

Even where we live, in a tiny rural Alaskan community of 400 residents, our local Community League is communitarian now. For years the league had two small jobs. They took care of the community well and hosted our tiny, once yearly, one day fair. Under the patient guidance of retired teachers, mental health providers and federal parks employees they've spiritually evolved into a Board of Directors with seven standing committees. Now they're asking everyone here to tell them their skills so we can all volunteer to help them with all the new grant funded community economic development.

Q. How far has it penetrated in the U.S.?

A. The core foundation for the U.S. communitarian system is already established. Community Development is a standard agency in every state. The term Sustainable Development expanded from the UN into the mainstream private business sector in less than a decade. Every inch of the USA has an adopted plan and vision for the future, and the goal of every single one of them is to ensure sustainability.

In the cities, Communitarians have already conditioned Americans into accepting aspects of life in controlled collectives. Borrowing from the most successful collectives in recent history, Communitarians utilize and expand on programs, policies and ideas perfected by the British Fabians, Imperialists, Russian Soviets, Chinese Communists, Nazis, Fascists, and Israeli commandos. This is why you hear so many Americans saying "it's socialism!" or "it's communism!" or "it's fascism!" or "it's capitalism!"; many people recognize these ideologies when they see them manifesting. But it's only once people start seeing more than one ideology going on at the same time that communitarianism begins to make total sense.

Q. Is there an easy way people can identify if a communitarian regulation is in violation of U.S. law?


A. Yes. In the U.S., any law not based in property is unconstitutional. All legitimate U.S. law must adhere to constitutional principles, and the U.S. Constitution is based entirely in property ownership. All legitimate criminal activities must produce some level of property damages. Civil suits must also request compensation for damages to property. Communitarian crimes are actions by people that interfere with the community developers' plans for rebuilding a safer, more livable community. Anything designed to improve "quality of life" is a communitarian program.

Communitarian Law is supposed to bring the entire world peace, security, harmony and happiness. Preventing bad people from doing bad things is the communitarians enlightened, moral imperative. Like high tech soothsayers, they steal our most private information and use it to predict our future, then they use their special trained community cops to stop bad people and bad things from happening.

Q. Should I buy more guns? (I hear this one a lot!)

A. Under the communitarian system, individual rights and liberties are not always balanced against the common good in the same violent way it happened to the people of China, the Ukraine, Cambodia, Iraq and Afghanistan. The more morally evolved and quasi-spiritual communitarians are a lot nicer when they balance individual and state rights against the rights of the community in more easily persuaded countries.

Q.. Is there an easy way to spot communitarian activity?

A. Yes. Any move by a small group of concerned citizens to change community behaviors is suspect
. Their activities often begin with regulating private business and updating land use regulations. If there are a lot of new agencies promoting sustainable development and the creation of small "expert" councils with sub-committees (like the Alaska Food Policy Council) we can soon expect drastic, unnecessary changes to our personal freedoms. Some actions, like the new xray scanners in American airports, are right in our face and can't be ignored. Others are more subtle and behind the scenes; we have to look a little closer to identify them.

Right now they're very busy teaching us our new roles as global citizens. Internationally acclaimed communitarian legal advisers teach people across the world how to teach their neighbors to become better stewards of their local environments.

To a communitarian, we become better citizens and stewards when we willingly give up any constitutional claims to unalienable rights. Community Rights are more moral than outdated Individual Protections under the people's law. Communitarian gods and goddesses are the ones who balance our freedom to travel, move goods, offer services, produce food and products or otherwise live naturally off our privately and publicly owned lands.

Q. What's the final result of communitarianism?

A. The communitarian system changes formerly free people from being controllers over their own lives and resources to becoming the controlled resources themselves.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 06:39:34 AM »

Communitarianism is not Communism: it's Cybernetics

Geert Wilders wants concentration camps in the Netherlands

Dutch politician Geert Wilders (PVV) made headlines Yesterday, with a proposal to put all scum, riot makers, trouble makers and antisocial family's in special camps. Such a camp would be called a “tuigdorp”, all "trouble makers" in his eye's, Muslims, Moroccans, thief's, trouble youth and there family, long stay-unemployed would get a spot in those camps. His proposal is to build them in every "Province", that's a total of 12, even more the germans had in 2WW ( in the netherlands) everyone knows how those camps are named in the past and now- "Concentration Camps"
We are going in the wrong direction here, This guy is a real tread to freedom if the trouble makers are gone they will invent/make new trouble makers. ( we all seen it before or learned about at school )
And in the mean while his party is called "PVV - Partij Vande Vrijheid" =party of freedom .....eeeuuughgmm yeah right and i am Santa clause!


http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/02/set_up_special_villages_away_f.php
http://www.opinieleiders.nl/wordpress/?p=13438
http://www.elsevier.nl/web/Artikel/288984/Wilders-wil-veelplegers-in-tuigdorp.htm
http://www.tctubantia.nl/nieuws/algemeen/binnenland/8125501/Wilders-wil-veelplegers-in-tuigdorp.ece


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The ironic thing about this is that under Agenda 21 and Communitarianism, the entire country will be living in these 'scum villages' (tuig dorpjes). Because that's all the little people (ie. the  people who think they're still middle class) will amount to.

And in a way - people are already rigidly confined in Holland in terms of their mobility and in terms of their ability to climb up the social stratas - heck, you're being surveilled 24/7 everywhere you go in Holland - there's a camera inside every train, inside every bus, and soon to be inside every car. What people don't get is that you don't even need a concentration camp - Gaia (the cybernetic prison) will totally converge with your environment and infrastructure to BECOME the prison camp.

In fact, it's already here.

I don't see the Dutch media ever focusing on this because the upper class in this country (the Anglo-Dutch and former Soviet Russian families that now constitute a large bulk of the patricians in this country) are totally in favour of keeping the 'scum' in line - which is how they view the entirety of the lower social stratas.

Why do people focus so much on Wilders when this guy is a useless puppet? Why is there no concerted effort to focus on cybernetics? Because I can tell you, once it's in place, that will be a thousand times scarier than any Nazi-style concentration camp.

People are so totally obsessed with all these lame Nazi occupation movies that get annually broadcast and they have an outdated conception of what tyranny represents - by at least 50 years - they think that total tyranny represents some guy with a swastika badge on his right arm taking you to a concentration camp.

And the elite like it that this outdated conception of tyranny-on-your-doorstep still resonates with the people because they won't introduce it like that at all. In fact, the tyranny is already here.

BTW - about communitarianism - Communitarianism IS Cybernetics. Communitarianism will be the synonym given to the public - they won't give them 'Cybernetics' because that term does not make sense to them and they'd rather it doesn't get researched at all.

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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 03:41:02 AM »

18th June 2012.
Niki Raapana, "We will have paperbacks of the revised edition of 2020 next week! I'll also be going on more radio shows now too, starting with Jeff Rense on Wednesday night 9pm pacific time, and with Unsolicited Opinion as soon as we schedule. and if it keeps raining, I'll get to work on a simple, short tutorial about Agenda 21 for all the people who keep asking for it, and maybe make a video too.
I'm feeling pretty positive about it now, and energized enough to get back into the fray. rally the troops, the ACL is back on the front lines and we have a new weapon!"

http://nord.twu.net/acl/books.html
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2012, 03:18:41 PM »

"...For my persistence and dedicated efforts I have been much maligned and ridiculed. I've been forced into making some very difficult and dangerous life choices in order to continue my studies and writings.
So, for all the people worldwide who do or will accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist, a right-wing wacko, or a radical libertarian/individualist,
 
I put forth the following challenge:
 
Our thesis is that Political Communitarianism is the synthesis in the Hegelian dialectic. Our paper shows our historical evidence for our conclusion, and we also answer the "why?" I first made this challenge to Etzioni's Network in 2002. After we posted our "What is the Hegelian Dialectic?" thesis at the first ACL website, I emailed it out to Dr. Etzioni, the Communitarian Network, and the American Sociological Association. Over the years since I've sent it to college professors around the country.
 
If I'm wrong about communitarianism, and anyone in the world can prove it to me, scientifically, with documents to dispute mine, I'll make a humble, public amends to the guru. If I'm wrong, you have my word, I'll never write another unkind word about Etzioni and his elite little band of liars and con artists. Even though nobody has ever once disputed me with factual evidence showing proof that's contrary to my findings, it's always been possible that I am indeed totally wrong.
 
As of today, over 2300 ACL visitors have answered the poll on our thesis page, and that number is growing steadily. Over 600 of these responses came from students, teachers, and professors. I may have, with my daughter, Nordica Friedrich, one of the most widely read, wholly original political theses in the world. For those who wonder why we have not received a degree for our efforts, you need only do a quick keyword search for "anticommunitarian studies programs." As those who take the time to look will readily see, none exist, worldwide. I expect they'll find only a link to the ACL's hope that one will be established someday soon.
 
Our grassroots research website/institute is the only place in the world devoted exclusively to anti-communitarian studies. So even though I do not share the honors bestowed on Etzioni for his phony theory, I am an undisputed "expert" in my field. And, I just keep learning and studying. Thanks to Jason and Pete, I have a few of Etzioni's hardcover books and other hardbound books and CDs, so I can continue my studies out here in remote Alaska where I live without electric or phone. I'm actually reading at night by candlelight and gratefully using my sister Kathy's laptop with a battery..."  Niki Raapana.
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