Rand Paul officially sells out to NWO minion Romney|SLAVES ARE MADE IN SUCH WAYS

[Ennoia]

Explosive Interview: Jesse "The Idiot" Benton, Neocon Plant!
http://www.dailypaul.com/239145/explosive-interview-jesse-the-idiot-benton-neocon-plant
Submitted by Macklin Samfert on Sun, 06/10/2012 - 04:46

TheDailyPaul removed that link, is it up anywhere else on the net?

I also noticed yesterday that TheDailyPaul took down the Alex Jones message to the Pauls he made, it was on the front blog roll then it disappeared after getting many hits.

[Geolibertarian]

What will he do at the convention?

I think a much more constructive question is: Now that Romney has officially clinched the GOP nomination, what will "we" (the anti-NWO/pro-America movement) do to unite millions of people across both party and ideological lines behind an agreed-upon policy agenda for the purpose of exerting non-stop, round-the-clock pressure on Congress to implement that agenda?

Thus far the implied answer from most people seems to be: "Continue to make Ron Paul the center of our political universe, even though he has zero chance now of winning the Presidency, and even though he won't even be in Congress eight months from now."

Sorry, folks, but of the many things for which that approach may be a recipe, "success" ain't one of them.

[Valerius]

So what does Tarpley offer? Franklin Roosevelt? Lyndon LaRouche?

Ninja, please.

I've never really been a big fan of Rand. Have said so in the forum for at least a couple of years. Ron is NOT going to disown him and I would not expect him to.

But turn against Ron? Are you kidding? Because his son, or even should eventually he, luke warmly endorse a dufus, I'm suddenly going to disagree with most of what he's been saying for 30 years? Not likely. Season 8, episode 8 of southpark is basically all he did anyway. Pick one of them? I sure couldn't pick one of them but his son did and I would prefer he had not. Big deal.

The guy is retiring. He has fought the good fight. I like Ron Paul for what he has done and said and voted, not because I thought he was going to single-handedly save me.

Time for another and another and another... Find them or better still become them! .

[jflack]

I think some of us are not clearly seeing the magnitude of what happened.  This was a major fail!

Think about the business part of the equation.  If you've read about wealthy business owners and their transition of power whether to a family member or business partner...there is usually a smooth process with clear communication.

The shareholders are also very important to the process.  As a biz owner you don't want to piss them off, change directions drastically, or tell them their contributions of money and time were great but now they are in "alliance" with a rival biz owner as the Paul blogger said.

It is in my opinion that the Paul x2 campaigns just bankrupt their business by the endorsement and by the let up and play nice approach.

They did this right before the congess went on a week long break.  Who's idea was that?  Do they really think we won't still be mad in 7 days?

[tritonman]

I think some of us are not clearly seeing the magnitude of what happened.  This was a major fail!

Think about the business part of the equation.  If you've read about wealthy business owners and their transition of power whether to a family member or business partner...there is usually a smooth process with clear communication.

The shareholders are also very important to the process.  As a biz owner you don't want to piss them off, change directions drastically, or tell them their contributions of money and time were great but now they are in "alliance" with a rival biz owner as the Paul blogger said.

It is in my opinion that the Paul x2 campaigns just bankrupt their business by the endorsement and by the let up and play nice approach.

They did this right before the congess went on a week long break.  Who's idea was that?  Do they really think we won't still be mad in 7 days?

I already knew Rand had endorsed but in order for your statement to hold we need a link to Ron's endorsement for the Paul times two theory.

[EvadingGrid]

I think a much more constructive question is: Now that Romney has officially clinched the GOP nomination, what will "we" (the anti-NWO/pro-America movement) do to unite millions of people across both party and ideological lines behind an agreed-upon policy agenda for the purpose of exerting non-stop, round-the-clock pressure on Congress to implement that agenda?

Thus far the implied answer from most people seems to be: "Continue to make Ron Paul the center of our political universe, even though he has zero chance now of winning the Presidency, and even though he won't even be in Congress eight months from now."

Sorry, folks, but of the many things for which that approach may be a recipe, "success" ain't one of them.

Well said.
 

[jflack]

I already knew Rand had endorsed but in order for your statement to hold we need a link to Ron's endorsement for the Paul times two theory.

You're right.  Ron Paul hasn't made an endorsement.  In fact, he hasn't said jack squat about anything.  Whoever in the campaign positioned the Rand endorsement and the "be nice in Tampa" statement knew what they were doing.  There is a week long break where they don't have to answer for themselves.

Why isn't anyone talking about this?  This is very important!  Announcement June 7.  June 9 – 17  House Recess. 

I do group both Rand and Ron into my wording of campaign.

1.  Rand has used Ron's "lists" for raising money since day 1.  They share the same donors.  Guess what?  I never opted into Rand email newsletters but received them anyway.  They are sharing their customer lists.  Team effort.

2.  If Ron didn't share any part of the Romney endorsement then he wouldn't have let the arrogant bonehead Jack Hunter post a 8 minute video on the official Ron Paul campaign website putting a positive spin on the endorsement.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/06/10/on-rands-endorsement/

For the record...my family has supported Ron Paul tirelessly.  I'm just a bit pissed off right now.

[tritonman]

O contrare,, Ron has said a whole lot and here is a link to hear it straight from Dr.Paul.
http://www.dailypaul.com/238185/live-stream-ron-paul-speech-texas-convention-concert-june-7-9#comments
The speech is right at the top of the page.

[jflack]

O contrare,, Ron has said a whole lot and here is a link to hear it straight from Dr.Paul.
http://www.dailypaul.com/238185/live-stream-ron-paul-speech-texas-convention-concert-june-7-9#comments
The speech is right at the top of the page.

Would you be kind enough to share with me what Ron's statements were about Rand's endorsement or Ron's comments about his Tampa statement?  Thank you.

Here is another Rand Paul interview where he skated around many of the questions asked about his endorsement.  This video is the day after.  6-8-12.

http://youtu.be/5go45SFl4Hg

[jflack]

Very interesting article I just saw.  New points were made and are very interesting.

Does Campaign For Liberty and Rand Paul think shedding part of their customer...I mean support base is a good move?  Get rid of us extremist liberty lovers for a more mainline Replublican base?

They must not really understand who their base is.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-fans-angry-over-rand-paul-mitt-romney-endorsement-2012-6

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul broke ranks with his father's political army this week and endorsed Mitt Romney as the Republican Party presidential nominee, setting off a firestorm of outrage in the Ron Paul Universe.

Here's a sampling of the reactions from around the Internet:

(Comments from internet)

As the comments suggest, Sen. Paul's endorsement appears to have seriously damaged his credibility within the Movement — at least among its most hardcore activists. The virulent backlash indicates that the endorsement could have harmful political ramifications for the Kentucky Senator, raising doubts about his ability to unite his father's grassroots army with more mainstream elements of the Republican Party base.

"I think Rand Paul believed he could build from his father's base," said Brian Doherty, a journalist who has been covering the Ron Paul Revolution since the late 1990s. "But I think he has probably found in the last 24 hours that this might prove more difficult than he expected."

But Doherty told Business Insider that he was not completely surprised that Sen. Paul opted to endorse Romney. Unlike his father, Paul has frequently shown a willingness to work with the GOP Establishment, and has previously indicated that he planned on getting behind whoever his party picked as the nominee.

"There are a lot of Ron Paul people who like to think of themselves as a ragtag rebel army," Doherty said. "But Rand Paul is clearly positioning himself to play the part of the loyal opposition in the Republican Party. Emphasis on loyal."

What was surprising about the endorsement, Doherty said, was its timing.

Although Ron Paul has admitted he is no chance of winning the GOP nomination, he is still technically running for president and announced earlier this week that he expects to have 200 bound delegates at the Republican National Convention this summer. Moreover, his campaign is still encouraging supporters to try to get elected as national delegates at state and local party conventions.

"It seems like a gratuitous kick in the face to his father's most ardent supporters," Doherty said, adding that the endorsement seems to indicate that "Rand Paul might have less respect for the grassroots movement than he ought to."

It's possible, however, that Rand Paul knew he was going to piss off his father's die-hard fans — he just didn't care.

"There's a lot more to the movement than the hard-core fanatics," Doherty said. "There are a lot of people who voted for Ron Paul [in the primaries] who are not writing angry things about Rand Paul on the Internet today."

And Rand Paul's comments during his endorsement Thursday suggest that he was at least aware of the people he was betraying:

"My dad has a legion of young followers who are on the Internet, and they think they rule the Internet," Paul told Fox News host Sean Hannity. "Maybe they do and maybe they don't."

Hindsight may show that these remarks underscored some serious political hubris. Rand Paul's political clout depends, in part, on his ability to rally these grassroots Internet activists, and get them to make noise and moneybombs.

Even if he has decided that he can give up on the most hard-core fanatics, his support for Romney threatens to hurt his credibility within the broader Liberty Movement, particularly among those who see Romney's hawkish foreign policy positions — and Bush-era national security advisors — as anathema to the movement's principles.

Still, Rand Paul's endorsement does have some obvious political benefits, at least in the short-term. Already, the endorsement has raised the Kentucky Senator's national media profile, and sparked speculation about a possible VP nod. At Friday's Conservative Political Action Conference in Chicago, Sen. Paul came in fourth place in the vice presidential straw poll with 8% of the vote, coming in one point behind House Budget Chair Paul Ryan.

When asked about a possible V.P. run yesterday, Sen. Paul told CNN "it would be a great honor to be considered."

[chris jones]

Take a look at Ran Pauls speech, and then ask yoruself why he is backing the warmongering ROM
Listen to Rep. Paul deliver this address. Kinda hypocritical, or am I wrong.
Ran Paul
War drums are beating again in Washington. This time Syria is in the crosshairs after a massacre there last week left more than 100 dead. As might be expected from an administration with an announced policy of “regime change” in Syria, the reaction was to blame only the Syrian government for the tragedy, expel Syrian diplomats from Washington, and announce that the U.S. may attack Syria even without U.N. approval. Of course, the idea that the administration should follow the Constitution and seek a declaration of war from Congress is considered even more anachronistic now than under the previous administration.

It may be the case that the Syrian military was responsible for the events last week, but recent bombings and attacks have been carried out by armed rebels with reported al-Qaeda ties. With the stakes so high, it would make sense to wait for a full investigation — unless the truth is less important than stirring up emotions in favor of a U.S. attack.

There is ample reason to be skeptical about U.S. government claims amplified in mainstream media reports. How many times recently have lies and exaggerations been used to push for the use of force overseas? It was not long ago that we were told Gadhafi was planning genocide for the people of Libya, and the only way to stop it was a U.S. attack. Those claims turned out to be false, but by then the U.S. and NATO had already bombed Libya, destroying its infrastructure, killing untold numbers of civilians, and leaving a gang of violent thugs in charge.

Likewise, we were told numerous falsehoods to increase popular support for the 2003 war on Iraq, including salacious stories of trans-Atlantic drones and WMDs. Advocates of war did not understand the complexities of Iraqi society, including its tribal and religious differences. As a result, Iraq today is a chaotic mess, with its ancient Christian population eliminated and the economy set back decades. An unnecessary war brought about by lies and manipulation never ends well.

Earlier still, we were told lies about genocide and massacres in Kosovo to pave the way for President Clinton’s bombing campaign against Yugoslavia. More than 12 years later, that region is every bit as unstable and dangerous as before the U.S. intervention — and American troops are still there.

The story about the Syrian massacre keeps changing, which should raise suspicions. First, we were told that the killings were caused by government shelling, but then it was discovered that most were killed at close range with handgun fire and knives. No one has explained why government forces would take the time to go house to house binding the hands of the victims before shooting them, and then retreat to allow the rebels in to record the gruesome details. No one wants to ask or answer the disturbing questions, but it would be wise to ask ourselves who benefits from these stories.

We have seen media reports over the past several weeks that the Obama administration is providing direct “non-lethal” assistance to the rebels in Syria while facilitating the transfer of weapons from other Gulf states. This semi-covert assistance to rebels we don’t know much about threatens to become overt intervention. Last week Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said about Syria, “I think the military option should be considered.” And here all along I thought it was up to Congress to decide when we go to war, not the generals.

We are on a fast track to war against Syria. It is time to put on the brakes.

[jflack]

Rand Paul Sold Out Ron Paul By Endorsing Mitt Romney

http://www.policymic.com/articles/9515/rand-paul-sold-out-ron-paul-by-endorsing-mitt-romney

Jack Hunter claims Rand Paul “had” to endorse Romney and Mike Adams says Paul is lying in his endorsement in an attempt to insert himself into a position of power.  Dan McCarthy of the American Conservative explains this is simply retail politics that don’t mean anything. Meanwhile,economist Robert Murphy posted a few apologist pieces, including one from Lew Rockwell.

The Lew Rockwell interview was interesting. The interviewer (on RT, of course) asks some great questions, including: “Why cater to an establishment party that shut out what your morals are this whole time?” Rockwell’s response was, I’m not for catering, I’m for forgetting about it.

Well, I’m not in favor of “forgetting about it.”

I have no problems forgiving, but if Rand wants my cash, he better start changing his tune. Pretend Rand were a German politician during the rise of the Third Reich and had  endorsed Hitler because he wanted more power within the Nazi party, even though he didn’t agree with the majority of what the Nazis were doing. His endorsement of Romney is no different.

Rockwell points out in his interview that the establishment is for endless war, drones, and regulation of the internet. So if the establishment is for all of those horrible things, how could he possibly support Rand's decision? I don’t care if Rand can do some good within the party. I care about principle; Rand has just clearly demonstrated that he has none. In this case, Rand’s endorsement of Romney is inexcusable given the fact that his father is still technically running, and Gary Johnson is still in the mix. 

It is important not to get caught up in an improper attachment to a political figure. When people show approval towards politicians who engage in what they know to be bad behavior, they take on the role of an enabler. Many people make huge emotional and monetary investments in their favorite political figures; clearly, this makes it hard for them to denounce bad behavior. I think that is precisely what we are seeing here in the responses to Rand Paul's endorsement.

How many Democrats still blindly support Obama after he failed to end the wars, stop the drug raids, end the cronyism, and halt the bailouts? How many Republicans support Romney, the very guy who implemented Obamacare in his own state and has flip-flopped so many times on so many issues that there isn’t a single issue on which he’s ever been consistent? Why should we support people who endorse these clowns with our money, votes, or time?

I don’t blame Rockwell or the other commentators for being apologists, they are simply caught up in a psychological state that precludes them from making a rational assessment of the situation. Either that, or they subconsciously support Romney themselves. I refuse to throw my support behind the lesser of two evils. My principles are stronger than that.

[JT Coyoté]

The only redemption is a shift to a third party run for Ron Paul... otherwise the discredit that will follow him is that he soft-balled the flip-flopper for his son's gain... Are they thinking that we have all the time in the world to turn this around... WTF is going on in their heads...

EVERYONE, rally around your local liberty candidates, let's get them elected... What good is a stellar record if in the end you curtsy before the devil and hand it all to him... I'M PISSED!

JTCoyoté

"Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation,
are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want
rain without thunder and lightning, they want the ocean without the
awful roar of its waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may
be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it will
be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand... It never
did... and it never will... Find out just what the people will submit to,
and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong
which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they
are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of
tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
~Frederick Douglass (1857)

[Scootle]

Remember a few months ago Sibel Edmonds was warning everyone about Bruce Fein joining Ron Paul's campaign. Could he have something to do with this?

[Satyagraha]

EVERYONE, rally around your local liberty candidates, let's get them elected... What good is a stellar record if in the end you curtsy before the devil and hand it all to him... I'M PISSED!

Right. There's no 'better' of the two candidates; there's only one: Obamney.
Local liberty candidates need our support - find them, support them and keep an eye on them. Look for signs of 'softening'... because I think this system is so corrupt, these guys get 'poisoned' after any amount of time in the ring. They need constant reminders of the goal of liberty; and they need to be called out when they 'cave in' to pressure. Getting them into office is only the first step. Keeping them on task is the hardest job.

[donnay]

Remember a few months ago Sibel Edmonds was warning everyone about Bruce Fein joining Ron Paul's campaign. Could he have something to do with this?

You know when I first heard that Bruce was joining their team something in my gut just didn't set right.  I could not put my finger on it to this day, but I think you may be on to something.  After all he did come out of the Reagan Administration.

A Neocon in sheep's clothing!!

The Greatest Plot Against the Ron Paul Camp To Date

Who ‘Really’ Is this Bruce Fein? 


“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” - Marcus Tullius Cicero

fein Last week, right after publishing my article on Congresswoman Schmidt and Bruce Fein’s brilliant foreign lobby money rechanneling-laundering scheme, and to my shock, I found out about this:

    The Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign announced today that constitutional and international law expert Bruce Fein will join the campaign as senior advisor on legal matters.

    “Bruce Fein’s participation adds to our campaign’s already intellectual heft, enabling us to more broadly engage the conversation about constitutionality, civil liberties and the dangers to national security of an increasingly interventionist foreign policy,” said Ron Paul 2012 Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton.

While some at Rep. Paul’s Camp were busy celebrating and cheering the announcement as a brilliant strategic move, I was frantically gathering cases and research notes, corresponding with current and former colleagues from the intelligence community who had come to support Rep. Paul, and communicating with a few friends with Rep. Paul’s Campaign who were equally troubled by this development.

I understand the ‘cheering’ side of Paul’s camp as they have been excited and impressed by the in- writing-and-words-only side of Bruce Fein. Not so different than those who were fired up and sold on the in-words-only rhetoric and promises staged by President Obama. The Constitutional Scholar Fein and the Constitutional Expert Obama. A Great Penman Fein and the Great Orator Obama…and of course the contradicting realities and the contradicting facts.

However, in this case, there are already too many established facts and too much history on Mr. Fein, and way too many rational and realistic people among Paul supporters to ring the alarm bells and counter this great threat before it’s too late. I will go as far as calling the penetration of the Ron Paul camp by Bruce Fein ‘the greatest threat to Paul’s camp to date,’ and will make a solid case for this characterization based on glaring and alarming facts; facts and concerns shared by several loyal Paul advisors today.

Who is the real Bruce Fein? Why there are so many different versions of Fein – one contradicting the other? How do his real actions and intimate associations stand in stark contrast to Ron Paul? What is the most likely plot in planting Mr. Fein within Paul’s campaign?

Foreign Lobby & Influence Peddling

Ron Paul has been consistent and exemplary in his strongly held principles on the Foreign lobby and influence peddling; a rarity in the US Congress. He has displayed intense disdain for foreign lobbying and foreign influence. He even considers congressional ‘junkets’ as another means to be compromised: stressing that he would not travel abroad on agenda-driven foreigners’ dime: “I just think it’s unnecessary for congressmen to travel overseas, and the people in our district were on my side,” he said in an interview. “You don’t need to go to Bosnia to understand we have no business there.”

With Bruce Fein you have exactly the opposite stand. He has been a crusty foreign lobbyist making millions of dollars peddling his foreign bosses’ interests and influence in Congress and government agencies. For Fein it has never mattered who the foreign client or what their agenda. He does not care whether his foreign clients are criminals or terrorists or dictators. As long as they pay him handsomely he’ll sell their agenda and interest no matter what they may be. The words ‘principle’ or ‘taking a stand’ have never entered this foreign lobbyist’s dictionary or comprehension:

One minute, on behalf of one set of his foreign designated ‘terrorist’ bosses, Bruce Fein is busy selling the need for a genocide declaration by the US Congress against one nation:

    “For the past year I have written about Bruce Fein in many articles that have been widely published and circulated. He is reportedly paid $100,000 per month to tell lies in Washington about the Government of Sri Lanka… Who are the American individuals backing this group? Where are they getting their money to pay Bruce Fein? Does former US Ambassador Blake have something to do with them…”

trkcoalThe next minute, on behalf of another well-known foreign mob boss, Bruce Fein is busy peddling influence and selling Congress his foreign bosses’ anti-genocide agenda:

    “In 2007, Ayasli transferred $30 million in stock to fund a new endeavor, the nonprofit Turkish Coalition of America. The organization is headquartered in a Washington suite that has also been listed as the address for the Turkish Coalition USA PAC, the lobbying firm of Lydia Borland (who has represented the Turkish government), and the law firm of Bruce Fein and Associates (Fein comprises half of the Turkish American Legal Defense Fund)…”

    “materials put out by the Turkish Coalition of America and authored by a lawyer, Bruce Fein, who now represents Schmidt in the complaint, say that Congresswoman Schmidt has on numerous occasions voiced her opposition to such resolutions and maintains that the historical question is not appropriate for Congress to legislate. The congresswoman, based on her independent research, does not believe the tragic events constitute genocide…”

Bruce Fein sees no problem with representing foreign groups like this:

    Fein hit the jackpot in 1991 when he signed on to represent Mozambique’s notorious guerrilla army, RENAMO, which was seeking to overthrow its country’s leftist government. When Fein came on board, RENAMO’s reputation has hit bottom…

    …

    Even the Reagan and Bush administrations kept their distance from RENAMO, despite their anti-Communist rhetoric…

    …

    Fein, however, eagerly signed up to flack for Dhlakama’s terror army. Like most foreign lobbyists, he bilked his client for huge sums of money while performing virtually no work.

Mr. Fine, who now fakes and preaches non-interventionism and anti-influence peddling only to echo Ron Paul, in real life has been practicing the exact opposite:

    “Now, Fein has returned to lobbying and is working for a client that has the dubious distinction of making RENAMO look good: The Sudan. That country’s government is barred from receiving U.S. foreign aid because of its support for terrorism and because of its revolting human rights record. Amnesty International reports that the Sudanese government not only assassinates and tortures its “enemies,” but that paramilitary forces have kidnapped scores of children, who are believed to be held in domestic slavery by their abductors or taken to camps in remote rural areas, where they are trained for military service”

Here is another on-the-spot description of Real Bruce Fein as a crusty “Beltway Prostitute”:

    “Well, well, well. Wasn’t Bruce Fein just recently condemning the Government of Sri Lanka for trying to put an end to the LTTE? But this time he’s defending a sovereign government for protecting itself – rather than slandering it using falsehoods. Now you see what I mean when I earlier referred to Mr. Fein as a “Beltway prostitute.” He will accept money from anyone who can pay the price – regardless of where that money came from, or who his legal and public relations services might unjustly hurt. What an embarrassment to the US legal profession.”

You see, for Mr. Fein pimping the Congress on behalf of foreign clients is about dollars. Nothing more; nothing less. Whether it is advocating additional foreign aid for one country while our nation is being bankrupted, or dragging our Congress to get involved with domestic meddling and the affairs of another foreign country, Bruce Fein has never been about the United States’ interests; just the opposite. Give Fein the dollars and he’ll sign up to lobby for any one: terrorists, corrupt foreign governments, mobsters, assassins …

Long pocketed as a ‘lobbyist’ by Pakistan, Sudan, Turkey, Tamil, and others, Bruce Fein is the exact antithesis to Ron Paul’s principled position on issues related to foreign lobby, corruption and influence peddling in government.

Continued...

[jofortruth]

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http://www.nysthirdparty.com/how.html


We must not forget what Ron Paul has done in awakening Americans over many decades to what was trully happening to the country. The real travesty would be if this current blip (which we still have no details about) derails the Ron Paul movement!

People, don't be foolish! You have a mind, use it, and stop being led by the nose with every media event into a knee jerk reaction!

RON PAUL has not changed his beliefs and he never expected to win AN ELECTION; the whole time it has been about waking people up in an attempt to restore this country back to the people! Going forward in this election year you will see all kinds of media manipulation getting closer to the vote! This is noise to confuse you!

In my mind there is no confusion! I refuse to vote for the two mainline candidates period! I will write-in Ron Paul's name because PRINCIPLE IS WHAT THIS VOTE IS ABOUT GOING FORWARD! THE MOVEMENT FOR LIBERTY WILL CONTINUE IF YOU DON'T GET SIDETRACKED!

FORGET THE MEDIA BLIPS YOU SEE FROM THIS DAY UNTIL THE ELECTION! THERE WILL BE MANY MORE! Go to the convention, if you wish,  and support Ron Paul! HE HAS LAID A BASE FOR LIBERTY LOVING PEOPLE GOING FORWARD! THAT WAS HIS GOAL, AND HE HAS SUCCEEDED! WILL YOU CONTINUE IT, OR BE SIDETRACKED BY A CONTINUOUS MEDIA MANIPULATION?

Ron Paul 2012 OUT OF PRINCIPLE (and PROTEST AGAINST THE ONE PARTY SYSTEM), AND THE FUTURE OF AMERICA!

[jflack]

I've had a lot of time to think about this whole situation for several days now.  You've seen my posts and comments in this thread.

I've thought about all the programs in the government and how they are funded.  There would be no chemtrails if there wasn't a budget for it.  Programs run if there is money.

We can talk about Rand Paul all day long.  They have proved they will not respond to their support base.  All they did was throw out this Jack Hunter goob and he sounded like an establishment Republican.

I still believe in funding true liberty loving folks in government.  My family has supported Ron Paul in many different ways.

Because talking isn't working I believe the best message we can send is a call for NOT funding Rand Paul anymore.  You can't support a NWO stooge like Romney and still get my money.  Who you give your money to speaks for who you are and what you believe.

I'm not going to give money to a church that supports beliefs I don't agree with.  I'm not going to give money to a charity that has beliefs I don't agree with.

I'm assuming the Campaign For Liberty gives funds to Rand Paul but I don't know for sure.

I'm just saying there needs to be a call for a total freeze on the funding of Rand Paul.

Think this is too extreme?  I don't.

[bento]

George Carlin said "it's a big club, and you ain't in it". So there you go, now just go support the locals that you can trust. Anyone that gets touched by the powers that be always succumb to the corruption or threats that occur there. You cannot clean a cesspool by dripping in drops of pure water one at a time. The clean water just gets dirty and the pool stays the same. The only way to flush the system, is to take over at the lower level and pull the damn plug.

[Constitutionary]

Great just when we need for Ron Paul to coalesce his base, Rand Paul pulls this crap.

 

[chris jones]

 Any word from DAD PAUL ?
This is A last minute political subterfuge. Or a diversion to call attention to RP integrity. or is it a betryal, who truly has this put together.
Any time Politicians dodge the fine line there are repurcusions, with a sad heart I have to say this will have a effect I don' cotton to.
 Some say it doesn't matter, I don't agree, in fact its a dilusional statement.
 This act has had dual effects, lets rememeber who Ron Paul is, what he stood for throughout his political carer, his attack on the slime suckers in gov posiitions, his contstitutional loyalty, his past in every aspect, maby just maby it could end up being positive. Ya, I know the first thought is a sons betrayal, is it, as this point I can not give a fact backed analysis, can you.
  I get it,even some of RP's team has been accused of betrayal as well,no mater what the hidden aganda is, it will be exposed. Rand is not the only one involved in this.

[Jacob Law]

The Paul's are not 911 Truthers, therefore and are hindered by delusions.

It is the Peter Principal everyone rises to the height of their incompetance.

[Jacob Law]

Didn't Ron Paul's campaign manager died suddenly after the 2008 elections?

[lee51]

Why hasn't Ron Paul made an announcement to his supporters about this?  I've been waiting to hear what he has to say but nothing is forthcoming.  The longer he waits, the more I wonder what is going on.

But again, I won't vote for Romney or Obama. 

[jofortruth]

Schiff Radio Exclusive: Rand's Romney Strategy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygwZHpTUmaI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.dailypaul.com/239812/rand-paul-wants-to-work-inside-the-party-to-bring-forth-changes-core-beliefs-still-intact-recent-interview-on-the-ps-show

[Constitutionary]

 

[jofortruth]

Alex,

I am very disappointed in how you handled this Rand issue! I respect your ability on many fronts to wake people up, but I do not respect how you went off on Ron Paul over something his son did!

Ron Paul has earned our respect, and you know that! He has been an unwavering Patriot, one of the few on The Hill, and the one guy who could not be bought his entire 30+ yrs in office! He will go down in history as the only true Statesman who awakened the public! He deserves our respect!

I would ask you to assess your method of delivery on the show! I think you would now be more effective if you would show more restraint and stop yelling! We can hear you!

We love you for waking us up, but now need a leader who is under control to take the fight for liberty to the next level, and in a calmer manner! That may not be possible for your temperament, but I hope you will try because you are needed in this movement, and you could bring more people on board to learn from you! It would also be better for your health going forward!

A suggestion I hope you will heed!

Jo

[menace]

Rand's new bill Protect Americans Against Unwarranted Drone Surveillance, allows the use of Drones to spy on you.

The Preserving Freedom from Unwarranted Surveillance Act of 2012 also:

1. Prohibits the use of drones by the government except when a warrant is issued for its use in accordance with the requirements of the Fourth Amendment.

2. Includes the following exceptions:

1) patrol of national borders;

2) when law enforcement possesses reasonable suspicion that under particular circumstances, swift drone action is necessary to prevent "imminent danger to life;"

3) high risk of a terrorist attack

3. Allows any person to sue the government for violating this Act.

4. Specifies that no evidence obtained or collected in violation of this Act can be used/admissible as evidence in a criminal, civil, or regulatory action.

http://paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=545

[Constitutionary]

Let's face it it's going to come to civil war cuz the Globalists are hell bent on finishing their agenda and the solution is beyond any 3rd party candidate at this point.

[Satyagraha]

Rand's new bill Protect Americans Against Unwarranted Drone Surveillance, allows the use of Drones to spy on you.

The Preserving Freedom from Unwarranted Surveillance Act of 2012 also:

1. Prohibits the use of drones by the government except when a warrant is issued for its use in accordance with the requirements of the Fourth Amendment.

2. Includes the following exceptions:

1) patrol of national borders;

2) when law enforcement possesses reasonable suspicion that under particular circumstances, swift drone action is necessary to prevent "imminent danger to life;"

3) high risk of a terrorist attack

3. Allows any person to sue the government for violating this Act.

4. Specifies that no evidence obtained or collected in violation of this Act can be used/admissible as evidence in a criminal, civil, or regulatory action.

http://paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=545

Enough said. He's Romney's buttboy.

[Seeing]

Why hasn't Ron Paul made an announcement to his supporters about this?  I've been waiting to hear what he has to say but nothing is forthcoming.  The longer he waits, the more I wonder what is going on.

But again, I won't vote for Romney or Obama. 

If I vote it will be for Obama. I'm tired of waiting as things get worse. Ron Paul was the light at the end of the tunnel. Be it a dimmer and dimmer light. Now I'd be glad if TSHTF so we can all see who is on the side of Liberty. Draw the line in the sand. Death from a thousand cuts or a bullet in the head. Give me the bullet.

[Satyagraha]

If I vote it will be for Obama. I'm tired of waiting as things get worse. Ron Paul was the light at the end of the tunnel. Be it a dimmer and dimmer light. Now I'd be glad if TSHTF so we can all see who is on the side of Liberty. Draw the line in the sand. Death from a thousand cuts or a bullet in the head. Give me the bullet.

A vote for Obamney is a bullet to the head after a thousand cuts.

[Effie Trinket]

Rand's new bill Protect Americans Against Unwarranted Drone Surveillance, allows the use of Drones to spy on you.

The Preserving Freedom from Unwarranted Surveillance Act of 2012 also:

1. Prohibits the use of drones by the government except when a warrant is issued for its use in accordance with the requirements of the Fourth Amendment.

2. Includes the following exceptions:

1) patrol of national borders;

2) when law enforcement possesses reasonable suspicion that under particular circumstances, swift drone action is necessary to prevent "imminent danger to life;"

3) high risk of a terrorist attack

3. Allows any person to sue the government for violating this Act.

4. Specifies that no evidence obtained or collected in violation of this Act can be used/admissible as evidence in a criminal, civil, or regulatory action.

http://paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=545

There is no such thing as "warranted" drone surveillance.

Drones are a product of the Revolution in Military Affairs, which is a treasonous, genocidal doctrine that fraudulently legitimizes persistent war (for the purpose of advancing neo-feudalist cybernetic tyranny over humanity) achieved by endlessly fighting manufactured enemies.

Their existence is greatly ushered in as a response to the 9/11 false flag which makes them redundantly treasonous.

There is no such thing as non-false flag terrorism, so fascist military industrial complex alter boy traitor Rand Paul can shove this bill up his a$$.

Drones possess technologies which are orders of magnitude beyond normal surveillance and therefore automatically eviscerates the 4th amendment legal standard of probable cause by being able to see through your house (solid walls, ceiling, advanced computer enhanced thermal imaging, and stuff that they will never let anyone know about).

If anyone thinks that the elite couldn't use Rand Paul as a puppet president after seeing treason like this, you are a completely blind troll.  He has proven that he is as moldable plastic as much as the MIC would like him to be--which means he would be no different than Romney or Soetoro.

[Seeing]

A vote for Obamney is a bullet to the head after a thousand cuts.

Whatever it takes to get the ball rolling.

[jflack]

Did you hear the interview with Peter Schiff?

I think he's fine with losing support.  He didn't seem like he really cared.  They both made it sound like the people who disagree with him aren't very smart people.

Guess what?  I got my first email from the Ron Paul campaign and they have the nerve to ask for money.  Are they insane!

 http://youtu.be/ygwZHpTUmaI

[jofortruth]

Carol Paul Speaks about Rands Endorsement of Romney and Ron Paul 6-13-12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb9HK53nShw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.dailypaul.com/

[Jackson Holly]

Carol Paul Speaks about Rands Endorsement of Romney and Ron Paul 6-13-12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb9HK53nShw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.dailypaul.com/

Incredible!

[jofortruth]

America needs a groundswell of votes for Ron Paul in this election no matter what happens! This election should be the highest OTHER VOTE in history!

Apparently a lot of people agree that we should write-in Ron Paul's name in Nov 2012 (write his name on the OTHER line! Thats what i plan to do! Do not vote for Obama or Romney! It's time the establishment was sent a strong message that we will no longer  support their goons! We have had it with never having a real choice for President!

(btw,Tom Woods stated in a video yesterday that there is ZERO CHANCE that Ron Paul will endorse Romney! I agree!)

See YT "Tom Woods Q&A Ron Paul & much more" (at begin of video)

[Seeing]

I wrote in Ron Pauls name in last time. I won't this time unless I hear a real good explanation from his mouth. If I'm not satisfied with what he has to say I will either not vote (really, what's the point) or I will vote for the eviler of two evils. Let the SHTF.

[Valerius]

Writing in a name not on the official list is not counted in any way.