Tarpley's ridiculous bashing of anti-Bilderbergers like Jim Tucker is very odd

[Geolibertarian]

There is no quarter in the New World Order and the only way to protect the properity of all individuals is by defending their natural inalienable rights described in the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution which includes the Bill of Rights.

Naturally I agree, but to do that, we (meaning the anti-NWO/pro-America movement) must start focusing on unifying issues instead of having pointless arguments all day over whether this or that person within the movement is good or bad. Yet there some in this forum (not you) who apparently are against us shifting our focus thusly. Hmm, I wonder why?

[Dig]

Sir William Beveridge's master plan of feudalism via SOCIAL SECURITY PONZI

Sir William Beveridge's master plan of feudalism via SOCIAL SECURITY PONZI

William Beveridge, the eldest son of a judge in the Indian civil service, was born in Bengal, India, on 5th March 1879. After studying at Charterhouse and Balliol College, Oxford, he became a lawyer.

Beveridge became interested in the social services and wrote about the subject for the Morning Post. In 1909 Beveridge, now considered to be the country's leading authority on unemployment insurance, joined the Board of Trade and helped organize the implementation of the national system of labour exchanges.

In 1909 Beveridge was appointed director of Labour Exchanges and his ideas influenced David Lloyd George and led to the passing of the 1911 National Insurance Act. During the First World War Beveridge was involved in mobilizing and controlling man power.

After the war Beveridge was knighted and made permanent secretary to the Ministry of Food. In 1919 he left the civil service to become director of the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE). Over the next few years he served on several commissions and committees on social policy.

In 1937 Beveridge was appointed Master of University College, Oxford. Three years later, Ernest Bevin, Minister of Labour, asked him to look into existing schemes of social security, which had grown up haphazardly, and make recommendations. The report on Social Insurance and Allied Services was published in December 1942.

The report proposed that all people of working age should pay a weekly contribution. In return, benefits would be paid to people who were sick, unemployed, retired or widowed. Beveridge argued that this system would provide a minimum standard of living "below which no one should be allowed to fall".

A second report, Full Employment in a Free Society, appeared in 1944. Later that year, Beveridge, a member of the Liberal Party, was elected to the House of Commons. The following year the new Labour Government began the process of implementing Beveridge's proposals that provided the basis of the modern welfare state.

Beveridge was created Baron Beveridge of Tuggal and eventually became leader of the Liberals in the House of Lords. William Beveridge, the author of Power and Influence (1953), died on 16th March 1963.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/TUbeveridge.htm

http://blog.accountingcoach.com/social-security-tax-rate-2010/



   Every American would have been better off if the government would have mandated that we save the 6.2% for retirement in a bank account or CD.  Instead they threw our money into the Ponzi scheme.  Many Americans don't know that their employers match the 6.2% so the actual figure is 12.4%.  I have paid the maximum every year since I was 33.  The SS people keep sending me statements on how wonderful the system is.  About 5 years ago, they said I would get $3200 a month upon retirement. Then 2 years ago they said it would be $2600/month.  Then a couple of months ago they dropped it to $1900.  WHAT A COUNTRY!!  DO YOU SEE WHY THEY WANT YOU TO TAKE THE VACCINES?



What is the Social Security tax rate for 2010?

The Social Security tax withheld from employees during the year 2010 will be 6.2% of the first $106,800 of each employee’s taxable earnings. The employee’s earnings in excess of $106,800 are not subject to the Social Security tax. In addition to the Social Security tax, the entire amount of each employees’ taxable earnings is subject to the Medicare tax of 1.45%.
Both the Social Security tax and the Medicare tax must be matched by the employer. This means the employer must remit to the federal government 12.4% of each employee’s first $106,800 of taxable earnings plus 2.9% of each employee’s earnings regardless of amount.

William Henry Beveridge, 1st Baron Beveridge KCB
[NOTE: Others with KCB title: Kissinger, George HW Bush, Bill Gates, Tommy Franks, Alan Greenspan
THOSE WHO REFUSED THE HONOR: CS Lewis, John Lennon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Beveridge

Support for eugenics

Beveridge was a proponent of Eugenics. He argued in 1909 that "those men who through general defects are unable to fill such a whole place in industry, are to be recognised as 'unemployable'.
They must become the acknowledged dependents of the State...
with complete and permanent loss of all citizen rights
including not only the franchise but civil freedom and fatherhood."[6]

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=FinalWarn05-1
The Fabians, the Round Table, and the Rhodes Scholars
...
 1895, Sidney Webb founded the London School of Economics, which became a branch of the University of London. Among its major contributors: the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie United Kingdom Trust, and Mrs. Ernest Elmhirst, the widow of J. P. Morgan partner Willard Straight, who founded the socialist magazine New Republic.
...
In December, 1942, the Fabians published the Beveridge Report, written by Sir William Beveridge (later made a Lord), who made a long list of promises to Britons, if they would accept his package of social reforms. In 1945, Fabian Socialists took control of the House of Commons, on the strength of the Report, and the Parliamentary Reforms, which had been published eleven years earlier by Sir Ivor Jennings.

Within a few years, British industries and services were nationalized and put under government control, which now meant that the Rothschilds were able to control more, because all the banks were forced to use Bank of England notes, instead of their own.

[Geolibertarian]

It was actually Thomas Paine who pioneered the idea of a social insurance program, but he proposed financing it with a tax on "ground-rent."

The U.S. government chose to finance it instead with a tax on wages, and that's why that program is in the mess it's in.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161315.0

[Dig]

Naturally I agree, but to do that, we (meaning the anti-NWO/pro-America movement) must start focusing on unifying issues instead of having pointless arguments all day over whether this or that person within the movement is good or bad.

As Bill Cooper said in the 1980's "Stop fighting with each othe." But, even he could not take his own advice. We are human and likely will continue bickering about less important issues. I have rethunk my idea of someone being "good or bad" for the movement and try to focus on the principals of liberty. Webster Tarpley in my opinion makes thousands of aweseome arguments defending liberty and a few that seem counter productive. His arguments should be given attention, but it is difficult when he tweets crap llike:

"#RonPaul ducked vote on totalitarian #NDAA bill letting Obama send you to #Gitmo govtrack.us/congress/vote.…"

"#RonPaul touts crash of 1921 as model for US future- but what if his #DeflationaryCrash is like 1837, 1873, 1893 laissez-faire nightmares?"

"#RonPaul on #FoxNewsSunday supports "RightToWork" union-busting laws which would destroy only mass institutions that can fight #dictatorship"

"#RonPaul #FoxNewsSunday endorses #CreativeDestruction" as "the answer" to US #depression - ie total #deflationary crash, too bad for victims"

"#RonPaul says Americans have surrendered to the barbaric #AustrianSchool of economics-But those who know reply that one Austrian was enough"

"#RonPaul claims we're all #Austrians now - good citizens prefer #TheAmericanSystem of Politica;l Economy, world's most successful #Hamilton"

There was a Tarpley impostor on Twitter a while back, but this looks to be the real Webster G. 

Here were some fair assessments back then:

First off let me state that I am fan of Mr. Tarpley and tune into his show religiously, watch his various appearances of RT, PressTV, and the Alex Jones Show. As a credible author, journalist, and historian, I find his analysis of world events, the geopolitical landscape, and history to be truthful, accurate, and unbiased. HOWEVER, Mr. Tarpley crossed the line on his most recent show (Friday, February 24th 1:04 in) when he outright defamed and slandered Ron Paul. His Twitter account has since been broadcasting additional misguided and misaligned "Deceptions" about Ron Paul.

With no basis what so ever and with NO logic or reasoning, let alone proof, he goes on the say that, "The net effect of the Ron Paul campaign is to be an auxiliary to Romney. The entire structural and indeed political content of the Ron Paul campaign is Help Romney get the republican nomination." This is the pattern he says. One thing is for certain; most Ron Paul supports (like myself) are subject matter experts on all things RP. Like Mr. Tarpley usually is with his analysis, we are students, historians, and investigative journalists, of all things Ron Paul and recognize Mr. Tarpley's senseless rhetoric (MSM has been peddling this drivel for 4-5 days now) and disinformation. Tarpley goes on to further discredit himself by saying, "Ron Paul's technique in the 19 debates has been to screen Romney from attacks" To paraphrase, Ron Paul always attacked everyone else, never Romney. The icing on Tarpley's disinfo cake is when he claims, "The purpose of Ron Paul’s candidacy is to spread the poisonous ideology of Austrianism, of extreme austerity, to make the idea of genocidal budget cuts at the expense of the American people presentable, and to do something for his family. He's a nepotist. He wants to do something for his son at the expense of the activists who believed in him." THIS IS ABSURD. And then he goes on about an "alliance between the Scottish right Masons of the Southern Jurisdiction (RP) and the Mormons."... Tarpley has failed miserably in providing objective reasoning behind his claims, and fails catastrophically in investigating the career/life of Ron Paul (Which would serve to educate him on his misguided and fanciful notions.)

I honestly find Tarpley to be delusional on the subject of Ron Paul. For the life of me I cannot ascertain the angle, logic, or reasoning behind Tarpley's blathering. If he knows something we (Ron Paul supporters) don't, than he should just come out and tell us. But instead he hides behind rhetoric (the MSM is spewing the same drivel) he passes as fact on his radio program, website, and Twitter account. (Has no contact info/email, comments are turned off on his webpage, and he doesn't respond to inquires via Twitter)

If anyone can comment or provide insight on where Tarpley is getting this info from it would be appreciated. I consider Tarpley a vital member of the Info War, but this has been annoying me.

Tarpley...Ron is anti-war, anti-bailouts, anti-zombie banks, anti-fascism, pro-freedom, pro-sovereignty, pro or anti nearly EVERYTHING YOU preach. (Aside from expanding the social safety net,  state and local governments public works programs, and providing 0% federal credit for
production to the tune of $1trillion) And yet you falsify this mans integrity, SPIN issues to create a perception of Paul that isn't reality, and equally as important, you discredit your own integrity and character in the process! If your so concerned with helping, with making a difference, perhaps you could reach out to Ron Paul. Have him on your show. Propose your 6 step plan to Recovery. But to defame him does the population NO good, and it does you a disservice in trying to unit people to corrective action in restoring the Republic.

Joe Kohegyi
@jkohegyi

Webster loves LBJ and the New Deal. He is a committed leftist and seems to find Libertarian values unpalatable. I am unsure of his views on the Constitution, I think that someone (Alex) should pin him down on this one interview.

And yours which was the most fair to all parties (as usual):

I don't think Tarpley's credibility is in question. Rather I think this is a case where his emotional hostility to Austrian School libertarianism has simply clouded his judgement to such an extent that he's unable to assess Ron Paul objectively.

It's no mystery that I share much of Tarpley's disdain for the Austrian School approach to economic reform. However, I'm not so blinded by my own ideological passion that I'm unable to see the forest for the trees.

And for me it all comes down to this: a vote for Ron Paul is a vote against World War III and against all of the Nazi-style police state measures that have been enacted since 9/11, while a vote for any of the other major party candidates is a vote for World War III and for all of those police state measures.

If Tarpley would simply acknowledge this and stop looking for excuses to impugn Paul's motives, I'm convinced his criticism of Paul's economic program would be viewed by many in a much more constructive light.

Yet there some in this forum (not you) who apparently are against us shifting our focus thusly. Hmm, I wonder why?

We are all just passionate about liberty : )  But really, we have been through so much disinfo, misinfo, military psop crap that tensions are high. I would recommend people take a step back and give constructive criticism rather than escalating rhetoric. I of course always take my own advice...NOT!

Basically Tarpley believes in a more socialist society than Paul and that causes friction. I do also believe that Tarpley's methods in dealing with these different philosophical point of views are very un-Tarpley. But, yeah, please stop bshing each other guys...the enemy ain't each other.

[Dig]

It was actually Thomas Paine who pioneered the idea of a social insurance program, but he proposed financing it with a tax on "ground-rent."

Interesting.

The U.S. government chose to finance it instead with a tax on wages, and that's why that program is in the mess it's in.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161315.0

I would disagree with the statement: "The US covernment chose to" and replace it with: "International banksters oportunistically created more hardships via bank financial manipulations and dust bowl conspiracies to drum up blowback supporting more socialized solutions. They then manipulated that outcry to support their murderous 100 year instrument of genocide known as the Federal Reserve Ponzi Scheme."

Or something along those lines.

[bento]

I think this is a far more fair interview then the alex one. This highlights some of my concerns about Ron's economic plans.

1/4 Webster Tarpley: Critique of Ron Paul's Austerity Plan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9yndIv3wY

2/4 Webster Tarpley: Critique of Ron Paul's Austerity Plan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICp6o_lXU6U

3/4 Webster Tarpley: Critique of Ron Paul's Austerity Plan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyw6vTwO4_Q

4/4 Webster Tarpley: Critique of Ron Paul's Austerity Plan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZpAoj6q

[Rex]

Tarpley's said all along that the Pauls are shills, in the race to help Romney get the nomination.  He may be dead wrong about the motives, but he's dead right about the outcome.

And the Bilderberg threats to Ron Paul look REALLY suspicious now.  Looks like they were put out so that people could say they threatened Ron Paul like they did Ross Perot.

Think of all the money and the millions of hours of work that just got flushed.  Flushed so that America will continue under the control of the corporate maniacs.

What a shame.

[DAVIDE MTL]

Tarpley's said all along that the Pauls are shills, in the race to help Romney get the nomination.  He may be dead wrong about the motives, but he's dead right about the outcome.

And the Bilderberg threats to Ron Paul look REALLY suspicious now.  Looks like they were put out so that people could say they threatened Ron Paul like they did Ross Perot.

Think of all the money and the millions of hours of work that just got flushed.  Flushed so that America will continue under the control of the corporate maniacs.

What a shame.

So if Paul wasn't in the race what would happen differently? Tarpley doesn't make sense and is out of line

[pac522]

Think of all the money and the millions of hours of work that just got flushed.  Flushed so that America will continue under the control of the corporate maniacs.

I don't think it was flushed. I think the line in the sand just got dug a little deeper. It should reiterate the waking up of the masses. It's time to be extra vigilant. This too is serving a purpose, but if we let it consume us with all the what ifs and second guessing then that is the wrong purpose. this is a shit sandwich. A shit sandwich starts with something good, then you have the shit in the middle and then you end with something good. Let's come out on the other side with something good.

[Geolibertarian]

this is a shit sandwich. A shit sandwich starts with something good, then you have the shit in the middle and then you end with something good.

And I was just about to eat something.

*tosses snack in garbage pail*

Thanks for spoiling my appetite, dude.