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« on: May 25, 2012, 01:17:18 PM »

 The statistics are Fed.NCIC, Some professionals say there are more than the 600,000 reported each year.
 Of this number about 20% are family related situations.
 Even half that number is a huge amount of missing kids, hell even one child is one to many.
 
 I met a guy who believes many are a victim of cannibalism, some believe sex toys for perverts, others think many are used in experiments-lab rats or victims of homicide.
                                    No matter what, thats a lot of children each year.
 
 
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 01:34:08 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 01:36:52 PM »

yes, there are also Satanic escapees who tell how they were used to breed babies for sacrifice in satanic rites.  They are never known by outsiders to be pregnant, and the baby is birthed in secret.  How many of these do you suppose?

600k kids gone missing each year in America alone is an old figure I heard about 20 years ago.  20% by parents seems high to me.  That would be 12,000 kids per year taken by a parent or loved one.

I think they are used for their sick enjoyment, then eaten.  If there is some perverted abomination of a population that eats babies, I wonder how big that hidden population is?

If one individual ate one baby per day = a population of 1643.  If the baby diet is just once-per-week = 11,538 individuals.  Either figure seems plausible with satanic elite numbers to me.

My discernment tells me there are many more babies gone missing each year than 600k, and that the diet is every day or two.  This would just about equal 6000 individuals, or so.

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2012, 05:30:27 AM »

Odd Disappearances
Sunday March 25, 2012
George Knapp was joined for the full four hours by David Paulides, a former lawman turned investigative journalist, for a discussion on a series of weird and odd disappearances in U.S. national parks and forests that no one to this day can explain.

Host: George Knapp
Guest(s): David Paulides

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdxE3yQyaWY

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Read Missing 411 book
This book was not what I expected. David Paulides recorded many cases I had never heard of, some of them going back a century or more. Some of those people are not listed with law enforcement or on missing persons databases anywhere. Many of his stories were remarkably creepy and made me want to never go anywhere near a national park again. I mean, I’ve gone on hiking trips in national parks in both the U.S. and Canada and nothing terrible happened, but…dang.

What was creepy about the book was not so much the stories about people who disappeared forever — after all, I read and write about missing people every day — but about people, mostly children, who disappeared and then were found in places where they should not, could not, be. Mind you, many of the adult disappearances were creepy too, but it was the children that struck me: small children and toddlers vanishing from campsites, etc., and turning up far outside the search grid, miles away and thousands of feet uphill. In one case, a kid turned up twelve miles away, nineteen hours after he disappeared, with numerous fences and creeks and two mountains between him and the place he’d disappeared from. Many adults could not have walked that far over that kind of terrain in that amount of time. I’m pretty sure I couldn’t. This boy was two.

The children were often naked or semi-naked when found (but none of their missing clothes were ever located) and sometimes they were covered in scratches but sometimes they didn’t have a scratch on them. If they were dead the cause of death was generally given as exposure, dehydration etc. If they were alive they were often in remarkably good shape for the time they’d been missing and either couldn’t remember any of it, or told some very strange stories.

Obviously, it would be difficult if not impossible for a two-year-old or whatever to walk for miles and climb thousands of feet up steep mountainsides in rugged wilderness areas. It also defies logic: lost children tend to travel downhill, that being the path of least resistance, and if they’re old enough they also realize civilization is in that direction. Furthermore, if by some miracle a child was able to travel that far undetected, you’d think they would have considerable scratches, scrapes etc. on them. This was often not the case. Some of the children were barefoot when they disappeared and barefoot when they were located, but their feet were in good condition, not like you’d expect from someone who’d walked all that way in the woods or mountains or desert. The implication is that these children were carried to wherever they were found.

Undoubtedly some of these cases, both deaths and disappearances, must be foul play, abductions. In fact, both Thomas Bowman and Bruce Kremen, two of the people profiled in the book, are presumed victims of the serial killer Mack Ray Edwards, a fact Paulides fails to mention (an odd omission on his part, IMHO). It’s equally likely that at least a few of the disappearances and deaths are suicides. But certainly those theories cannot explain all of them.

When Paulides wrote about Michelle Vanek, an adult woman who vanished without a trace during a mountain climbing trip (and whose disappearance is much creepier than I realized), he carefully discusses and then rules out foul play at the hands of her climbing partner, natural causes, or even the idea that she’s still on the mountain somewhere — he says tracker dogs couldn’t pick up a scent, the mountain had no trees and it was “saturated with searchers” as well as helicopters. No one ever found a trace of her, not even one of her ski poles. Paulides concludes, “Something catastrophic happened to Michelle Vanek, something that none of us could have probably survived.” I’m in agreement there…but what was the “catastrophe” that happened?

The book is sold by the North American Bigfoot Search website and the author has written books about Bigfoot, so I figured he would implicate Bigfoot in some of the disappearances. Although he never actually says “Bigfoot” he does imply it on several occasions. Bigfoot or some other unknown wild creature. (He discusses known wild creatures, bears and stuff, but says their behavior would not lead to these kind of events.) Or something else, something paranormal, evil — something that seems to be hunting people. And, if everything he writes in this book is accurate, I can’t say he’s wrong.

Equally disturbing is the National Park Service’s attitude about people missing on their land. They do not keep adequate records of disappearances and don’t even have any list of all the people that vanished and are still missing from their parks. Paulides claims they blocked most of his efforts to research his book and told him they’d do the research themselves, if he paid them $37k $35k. He also believes they’re too quick to write off an MP as dead — perhaps, he says, it’s so they can close the case and forget about it. And if a person turns up, even under bizarre circumstances (like the two-year-old marathoner I mentioned above), there is no further investigation. The two-year-old was pretty much dusted off and handed back to his parents.

I understand the NPS is not a law enforcement agency, but their refusal to even keep a list of people who have gone missing seems quite negligent. I understand they don’t want to scare people away from visiting the parks, but they ought to be equally concerned about visitor safety.

This book has given me a lot to think about. And it will be a rich source for Charley updates, since he writes about scores of my cases.


This interview with David Paulides gave me the creeps, especialy as im a long distance hiker that hikes a lot by myself. Its even worse that the national park service is covering this up also. This is worth the time to listen too.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2012, 11:07:13 AM »

Odd Disappearances
Sunday March 25, 2012
George Knapp was joined for the full four hours by David Paulides, a former lawman turned investigative journalist, for a discussion on a series of weird and odd disappearances in U.S. national parks and forests that no one to this day can explain.

Host: George Knapp
Guest(s): David Paulides

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdxE3yQyaWY

This interview with David Paulides gave me the creeps, especialy as im a long distance hiker that hikes a lot by myself. Its even worse that the national park service is covering this up also. This is worth the time to listen too.


   SCARY STUFF DOK.  You better find a friend to hike with.  When we hike around here (Yellowstone NP) we carry Pepper (Bear) Spray and sometimes a .44 magnum.  We were taugh to shoot at the neck if possible.  A head shot may not kill the grizzly--they have thick skulls.  But a .44 magnum should do it.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2012, 11:14:35 AM »


   SCARY STUFF DOK.  You better find a friend to hike with.  When we hike around here (Yellowstone NP) we carry Pepper (Bear) Spray and sometimes a .44 magnum.  We were taugh to shoot at the neck if possible.  A head shot may not kill the grizzly--they have thick skulls.  But a .44 magnum should do it.

Im good,  Wink

but Yellowstone NP has a lot of the disappearances that Paulides is talking about. Apparently a LOT of people go missing from that place every year. I'd be more worried about you...
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2012, 11:20:11 AM »

Im good,  Wink

but Yellowstone NP has a lot of the disappearances that Paulides is talking about. Apparently a LOT of people go missing from that place every year. I'd be more worried about you...

  No problem here.  We try to stay out of the park--I don't know if it is legal to carry a gun in the park.  It is still legal to pack a gun here (because of the grizzlies).  I always take my 2 boys, bear spray and sometimes a gun.  Bear spray will really stop a human.  ONE OF THE CREEPY THINGS ABOUT THE NATIONAL PARKS IS THAT THEY HIRE A LOT OF FOREIGNERS.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 11:22:15 AM »

  No problem here.  We try to stay out of the park--I don't know if it is legal to carry a gun in the park.  It is still legal to pack a gun here (because of the grizzlies).  I always take my 2 boys, bear spray and sometimes a gun.  Bear spray will really stop a human.  ONE OF THE CREEPY THINGS ABOUT THE NATIONAL PARKS IS THAT THEY HIRE A LOT OF FOREIGNERS.

Did you listen to the interview? Im under the impression that pepper spray and a weapon wont help much.
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 11:32:26 AM »

Did you listen to the interview? Im under the impression that pepper spray and a weapon wont help much.

  I think you are right.  Yes, I listened to the interview.  But I do believe there is safety in numbers.  VERY CREEPY.

  Of course I have not heard much of Yellowstone missing people.
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 11:39:41 AM »

  I think you are right.  Yes, I listened to the interview.  But I do believe there is safety in numbers.  VERY CREEPY.

  Of course I have not heard much of Yellowstone missing people.

That my friend is the whole point! I can never get this interview out of my head when im out on the trail 15 miles from anything in every direction, by myself and now all i feel is like someone is watching me. Someones going to just find my pants and 1 shoe.  Cheesy His book sold out, waiting for him to get some more in. In some of these cases the person dissapeared in a matter of seconds, or was found miles away on the otherside od rifges and valleys.

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yep... this is more like John Keel stuff, but makes you wonder if it happens out there does it happen in the subburbs and cities?
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2012, 07:53:21 PM »

C2CAM - More Odd Disappearances Discussed !! - 06.24.12

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George Knapp was joined by David Paulides, a former lawman turned investigative journalist, for an extended update on his captivating research into mysterious vanishings from our national parks and forests. He noted that his previous Coast appearance in March generated an overwhelming amount of feedback, including a variety of theories on the disappearances as well as new cases. Regarding the scope of his investigation, Paulides revealed that he has now collected over 450 cases of these baffling events at national parks. Additionally, he recently spoke at a convention of search and rescue professionals where, following his presentation, several attendees noted their own experiences with these vanishings but had not realized this was such a widespread phenomenon.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2012, 08:19:01 PM »

These numbers are not to be believed? Really Half a million?

But really more like:
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Juveniles under the age of 18 account for 38,505

Still 40 thousand missing children are actively being sought - they ARE MISSING.

But it also seems that nearly half a million kids are RUNNING AWAY from HOME every year. Why?

 

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ncic/ncic-missing-person-and-unidentified-person-statistics-for-2010
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The Missing Person File contains records for individuals reported missing who:

■have a proven physical or mental disability (Disability—EMD);
■are missing under circumstances indicating that they may be in physical danger (Endangered—EME);
■are missing after a catastrophe (Catastrophe Victim—EMV);
■are missing under circumstances indicating their disappearance may not have been voluntary (Involuntary—EMI);
■are under the age of 21 and do not meet the above criteria (Juvenile—EMJ); or
■are 21 and older and do not meet any of the above criteria but for whom there is a reasonable concern for their safety (Other—EMO).

As of December 31, 2010, NCIC contained 85,820 active missing person records. Juveniles under the age of 18 account for 38,505 (44.9 percent) of the records and 10,248 (11.9 percent) were for juveniles between the ages of 18 and 20. *

During 2010, 692,944 missing person records were entered into NCIC, a decrease of 3.7 percent from the 719,558 records entered in 2009. Missing person records cleared or canceled during the same period totaled 703,316. Reasons for these removals include: a law enforcement agency located the subject; the individual returned home; or the record had to be removed by the entering agency due to a determination that the record was invalid.

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NCIC Missing Person File Category/Age/Sex/Race 2010
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             Under 18 18 And Older    All Ages

Juvenile 514,780     211               514,991
Endangered  18,754   42,471   61,225     
Involuntary    9,948   9,905   19,853   

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   Under 21     21 And Older   All Ages   
 
Female   305,449      52,111               357,560     
Male   260,211      75,132               335,343   
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2012, 09:16:45 PM »

 It appears I have been mislead, there are statisics mentioned from varous sources, it seems as though the claim many are runaways is simplfying what could be an entirely different scenario.
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Reports of missing persons have increased sixfold in the past 25 years, from roughly 150,000 in 1980 to about 900,000 this year. The increase was driven in part by the country's growing population. But the numbers also indicate that law enforcement treats the cases more seriously now, including those of marginalized citizens.

An astounding 2,300 Americans are reported missing every day, including both adults and children.

But only a tiny fraction of those are stereotypical abductions or kidnappings by a stranger.

For example, the federal government counted 840,279 missing persons cases in 2001. All but about 50,000 were juveniles, classified as anyone younger than 18. The Justice Deartment stats, I'll have to write to E. Holder, he just may be he guy to answer this. Cheesy
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