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« on: April 30, 2012, 07:52:53 PM »

Establishment Newsweek / Daily Beast Moderates false flag debate.

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911, FALSE FLAGS, AND BLACK OPS: AN EVENING OF DEBATE.

A debate was held on conspiracy theories, specifically the truth behind the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The participants were Jonathan Kay, author of Among the Truthers: A Journey Through America's
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 08:08:24 PM »

This is going to be good.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 08:23:57 PM »

Webster Tarpley's World Crisis Radio http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/

Most Recent Program – April 28, 2012

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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 08:37:27 PM »

Establishment hack uses same old same old 'buzz words' 'straw men' and says..."conspiracy theorists will use technical talk to backup their cliams...  DON'T LISTEN TO THEM... accept the EASY answers instead".

Webster Tarpley uses history, documents and video to counter the establishment hack by simply stating ... "If you DON'T pay attention to the details (as in 911) those who conspire will always sell you new conspiracies to further their agenda.  But, once you observe  the details then you begin to see the patterns."

The establishment hacks are so OBVIOUSLY arrogant it's great.  KEEP UP APPEARANCES! Grin

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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 09:02:26 PM »

Jonathan Kay came unarmed to a battle of wits.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 09:27:52 PM »

It is real simple.

If you get into a debate with ANYONE as to whether 911 was a government run operation OR the 'governments' version of the operation being ran by muslims in a cave is what actually happen, you ask them... "who gained the most from 911?"

As time marches on we see that the federal government did EXACTLY and even MORE than what Hitler did when his government burned their congress building down.


If it was me debating one of these establishment hacks the first thing I would do is take away the ILLUSION that 911 was 'covered up'.  I would show that the government has changed it's 'official' version over and over and over.  That enough of the operation HAS BEEN EXPOSED showing clear cut federal government fingerprints all over it.

However, the biggest smoking gun of all has NOTHING to even do with the events of 911 itself.  The smoking gun is what we are ALL witnessing as the 'result of 911' today.  That is, the DESTRUCTION of the U.S. constitution, which really is the country and, the biggest power grab BY A CENTRAL GOVERNMENT since the Roman empire.

Alex Jones hit the nail right on the head when he said a foreign enemy could NEVER have done a better job destroying what was once a constitutional republic.

That's the 100,000 ton ocean liner in the living room where the 'official version' promoters will drown those facts out with completely unfounded 'theories' masquerading around as 'facts'.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 09:33:06 PM »

Even if, like me, you don't completely agree with Webster Tarpley on economics, you still have to agree (one would think) that he is not only a inforwarrior, but -- like Alex -- a general in the infowar.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 09:50:10 PM »

Here's the one issue that I really get a laugh out of.

Anyone could walk down the street of ANY town USA with a digital recording device and ask people they happen to run into first, one simple question.  "Do you think the politicians in washington are involved in various forms of corruption?"  Basically, asking if the person on the street thinks our US politicians are crooks.  I asked people I've run into this very question and the YES is in the 90% bracket.

Most people acknowledge that Washington is corrupt but, what I find mind boggling is the idea that... "yeah, their crooks but they would NEVER be that crooked."   As if crooks have a 'moral' governor when their is NO ONE being punished or held accountable!  Cheesy     
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 09:55:07 PM »

Even if, like me, you don't completely agree with Webster Tarpley on economics, you still have to agree (one would think) that he is not only a inforwarrior, but -- like Alex -- a general in the infowar.

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  You can't beat him on history.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2012, 10:07:21 PM »

Jon Kay says AJ is a "sinister" character. Wink
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2012, 10:27:08 PM »

Here is an EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POINT or incident that happened in the debate.

The establishment moderator was CLEARLY agitated and Jonathan Kay complete avoided the question of the Obama administration arming and financing today's Al CIA duh rebels.  That fact alone completely discredits Jonathan Kay's house of cards CLAIM that Al Quada (sp?) and the federal government are two completely separate animals that have NO involvement with the other.

This is why the MSM is saying the war with Al Quada is OVER move on dot org!

It's too bad no one brought up Iran Contra and Fast and Furious.  Those two operations also flatten Kay's Claims the federal government would never try and pull off a 911.

How would YOU feel going to bed at night defending a criminal government?
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2012, 11:00:50 PM »

I apologize for continuing to post but, I've got to bring this to the light of day...

I just recently posted...
MSM's Tina Brown Looking Like The Baffoon Everyone Thought She Was. (Breitbart)
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=231566.0

The reason that this is important, is that these are the same circles (Newsweek / Daily 'beast') who put this debate together.  Why is that important?

When the debate was wrapping up Jonathan Key was pleading with the audience that "we all need 'established' journalists", because the establishment knows their media hacks are going the way of the dinosaurs.  

The point of this debate was the same as the attack on Breitbart by the same circles via Tina Brown.  In this debate, Kay viciously attacked Alex Jones.  THEIR claim is that without 'established media', you'll NEVER have another "Watergate scandal" make the news.

All this really shows just how out of touch with the REAL WORLD these lackeys are.  The alternative media has and continues to break 'Watergate after Watergate' and has FORCED the lame brain media to cover territory they had no desire coving.  
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 06:44:17 AM »

Here's some background on the totally bullsh*t, illegitimate "moderator":

David Frum: Ron Paul "Will Not Get The Nomination."
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1 million innocent children raped, tortured and executed because of David Frum.

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The reckless Right courts violence
Hysterical talk from TV and radio hosts may be a cynical marketing exercise. But it's getting too dangerous to ignore.
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Thursday, August 13, 2009 David Frum



A man bearing a sidearm appears outside President Obama's Aug. 11 town hall meeting in Portsmouth, N.H., under a sign proclaiming, "It is time to water the tree of liberty." That phrase of course references a famous statement of Thomas Jefferson's, from a 1787 letter: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants." [David fails to mention that he was interviewed on Matthews and exposed that he is not a violent person, is not nuts, and is letting people know that unless the rights are practiced then they are lost. He also failed to mention that in NH a gun is an extention of your body, everybody has one. He also failed to mention that on that day in 1963, the only thing that would have stopped Harriman/Bush/Rockefeller from blowing JFK's brains out would have been if everyone exercised their 2nd ammendment rights. He also fails to mention Lyndon Johnson's role in MLK/RFK/Malcolm X's assassinations. He also fails to mention that OK City and 9/11 were caused by him and his buddies. He also fails to mention that he helped lead us into debt and genocide in the middle east. He failed to mention a lot.]

Earlier that same day, another man is arrested inside the school building in which the president will speak. Police found a loaded handgun in his parked car. At an event held by Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Arizona last week, police were called after one attendee dropped a gun. Nobody has been hurt so far. We can all hope that nobody will be. But firearms and politics never mix well. They mix especially badly with a third ingredient: the increasingly angry tone of incitement being heard from right-of-center broadcasters.[He is collapsing very different issues and confabulating them into a conditioning scenario for his cronies to create another false flag. He has intimate knowledge of 9/11 that he still has not revealed to the American people and is setting up more violence by collapsing insane issues.]

The Nazi comparisons from Rush Limbaugh[Rush is completely compromised due to his dependency on opiates, viagra, and video/pics of him in compromising positions. Every time he tries to get out, they pull him back in.]; broadcaster Mark Levin [Mark is a gangsta with high level intelligence ties who has some minor things I disagree with him on. But Indira Singh said he is helping her cause so he is a patriot in my book.]asserting that President Obama is "literally at war with the American people"; former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin [Sarah took the bait, did her BS dog and pony show job, and then was told to get out and did. She seems to be a descent family person and I have nothing wrong with her voicing her opinion.] claiming that the president was planning "death panels" to extirpate the aged and disabled; the charges that the president is a fascist, a socialist, a Marxist, an illegitimate Kenyan fraud, that he "harbors a deep resentment of America," that he feels a "deep-seated hatred of white people," that his government is preparing concentration camps, that it is operating snitch lines, that it is planning to wipe away American liberties": All this hysterical and provocative talk invites, incites, and prepares a prefabricated justification for violence.

And indeed some conservative broadcasters are lovingly anticipating just such an outcome.

Here's Fox News' Glenn Beck clucking sympathetically that white males are being driven into murderous rage by "political correctness." Here again is Beck chuckling as he play-acts the poisoning of Nancy Pelosi. Just yesterday, the radio host Sean Hannity openly contemplated violence—and primly tut-tutted that if it occurs, the president will have only himself to blame.  Hyperbolic accusation and fantasy murder may well serve a talk-radio industry facing a collapse in advertising revenues—down 30–40 percent over the past two years, reports NewMajority.com's Tim Mak.[All of these CoIntelPro operatives are advocating violence to assist the Southern Poverty Law Center's plans for a false flag operation. Glenn Beck is the Hal Turner FBI operative for FOX. Sean Hannity consistently advocates torture and the genocide of brown people.]

As revenues dwindle, hosts feel compelled to intensify the talk-radio experience, hoping to win larger audience share with more extreme talk. It's like the early days of the pornography industry: At first a naked woman is thrilling enough, but soon a jaded audience is demanding more and more, wilder and wilder.  For the radio hosts, it's all mostly a cynical marketing exercise. But the audience? Not all of them know better.

In April, the Department of Homeland Security released a report warning of the danger of right-wing political violence in the United States [Report has been exposed at totally unsubstantiated], and mainstream conservatives erupted in offense.  National Review's Jonah Goldberg [ wrote: My real objection to this report is that its source material amounts to "everybody knows." Everybody knows the right is full of whack-jobs, hatemongers, and killers, and if we don't remain vigilant, bad things will happen.

Michelle Malkin asked in her syndicated column: What and who exactly are President Obama's Homeland Security officials afraid of these days? If you are a member of an active conservative group that opposes abortion, favors strict immigration enforcement, lobbies to protect Second Amendment rights, protests big government, advocates federalism or represents veterans who believe in any of the above, the answer is: You. [Michelle's book advocating internment camps won her a spot in the limelight for the left/right paradigm and she still only focuses on this failed dialectic]

Newt Gingrich tweeted: "The person who drafted the outrageous homeland security memo smearing veterans and conservatives should be fired." [Newt also works for the American Enterprise Institute, so this is just infighting moronic ramblings of two assholes.] I don't think the former speaker could tweet such a thing today in good conscience. The person who drafted that homeland security memo has gained very good reason to be worried. The guns are coming out. The risks are real.

It's not enough for conservatives to repudiate violence, as some are belatedly beginning to do. We have to tone down the militant and accusatory rhetoric. If Barack Obama really were a fascist, really were a Nazi, really did plan death panels to kill the old and infirm, really did contemplate overthrowing the American constitutional republic—if he were those things, somebody should shoot him.

But he is not. He is an ambitious, liberal president who is spending too much money and emitting too much debt. His health-care ideas are too ambitious and his climate plans are too interventionist. The president can be met and bested on the field of reason—but only by people who are themselves reasonable.

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Birthplace: Toronto, Ontario, Canada


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Religion: Jewish
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Pundit, Columnist
Party Affiliation: Republican

Nationality: Canada [WTF? He is not even an American Citizen?]
Executive summary: Coined "Axis of Evil"

Speechwriter for George W. Bush who coined the term "Axis of Evil" to refer to Iraq, Iran, and North Korea.

Applied for US citizenship in 2004, still pending as of January 2005.

Father: Murray Frum
Mother: Barbara Frum (Canadian journalist, b. 1937, d. 1992)
Wife: Danielle Crittenden Frum (journalist and novelist, three children)

    University: BA History, Yale University (1982)S&B?
    University: MA History, Yale University (1982)
    Law School: Harvard Law School (1987, cum laude)

    The Wall Street Journal Assistant Editor, editorial page
    National Review Contributing Editor
    Federalist Society president
    Jewish Policy Center Board of Fellows
    Republican Jewish Coalition

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Author of books:
Dead Right: The great conservative revival of the 1980's is over... What will the Right do next? (1994)
What's Right: The new Conservative majority and the remaking of America (1995)
Dead Right: The End of the Conservativism of Hope & the Rise of the Conservativism of Fear (1995)
What's Right: The New Conservatism and What It Means for Canada (1996)
How We Got Here: America from 1968 to Now: For Better or for Worse (1999)
How We Got Here - The 70's: The Decade That Brought You Modern Life - for Better or Worse (2000)
The Right Man: The Surprise Presidency of George W. Bush (2003)
An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror (2003, with Richard Perle)

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2012, 12:15:29 PM »

Great video.

What are your guys responses to the claim Kay makes that the damage to the other side of building 7 is often ignored because it would give credence to the idea of the building falling?  I'm just curious as to how you would argue that point, because you guys seem to be good at coming up with arguments that folks should use.

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2012, 12:34:20 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0esUFZcMtdA (9/11 Debunking for Dummies)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4 (AE911Truth Experts Speak Out)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEGgAk1AbA4 (Psychologists help 9/11 truth deniers)
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2012, 07:22:46 PM »

That debunking video was actually hysterical haha
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