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« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2012, 05:28:53 PM » |
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Training, for what? It's kind of obvious isn't it, the stage is set.
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« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2012, 05:49:58 PM » |
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Of course one thing comes to mind: Connecting the dots. Decompartmentalizing the incrementalism and discouraging critical thinking is what the establishment's psy. op. is to prevent anyone from figuring this out. Dismissing anyone who figures it out with a "strawman" argument is the second line of defense. ("Conspiracy-Theorist") The third line of defense is hot martial law to forcibly remove anyone who has it figured out, from society. Red / Blue List. Oklahoma City Bombing was an ACT OF TREASON.  Only those who had access to the INSIDE OF THE BUILDING could have planted those bombs on the INSIDE of the building. Those who have hijacked the U.S. government and the U.S. military will surely commit treason in the future.
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« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2012, 06:15:04 PM » |
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Decompartmentalizing
Ok so apparently, I misused the word: Instead, I meant "compartmentalizing": DICTIONARY: "Divide into sections or categories." The bottom line is, critical thinking is the establishment's worst enemy, and anyone who is capable of critical thinking, is labeled as mentally ill, and/or of having low intelligence. They are therefor breaking the taboo of political-correctness and are shunned and rejected by members of society who were/are influenced by social-engineering.
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« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2012, 04:01:14 AM » |
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"strawman" argument is the second line of defense. ("Conspiracy-Theorist")
I was thinking of the wrong term. I actually meant "Ad hominem" (But they do actually use "strawman" fallacy arguments, too.) Attacking and dismissing the person who is arguing the argument, therefor if he/she is null and void, then the argument is null and void.  So you are all conspiracy theorists.
Therefor your arguments are now automatically conspiracy theories.
Therefor, your conspiracy theories are wrong, by default, because conspiracy theories never work...
'Cause I said so.
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« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2012, 07:23:18 AM » |
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For those who are afraid and want to know how not to be, check out the Friday night edition of the intel report on LTR, where the A to Z response to any full-scale, beyond-the-infowar takeover of America is embraced with anything but fear. The latest installment: http://intel.militias.info/2012/TheIntelligenceReport.06.22.12.08pm.mp3May I suggest also that AJ have Mark on his show as a guest at this critical juncture where everything might go dark in the infowar at any moment. Before it's too late.
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« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2012, 11:52:39 AM » |
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The pressure is building folks. All it is going to take is the right catalyst.
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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2012, 02:43:22 PM » |
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 Alex Jones is a nutjob/idiot?
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« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2012, 03:04:51 PM » |
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« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2012, 03:22:14 PM » |
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This is a classic dis-info-op... and this guy really isn't very good at it.
His whole premise is to attack the messenger and not the message... to make the discussion about Alex rather than allow folks to discuss the actual content of the story... many who are newly awakened can still be distracted by this type of moronic co-intel...
Folks who have been here for a while know that the first 2 years of this forum was crawling with these content detracting parasites, like a case of lice on the head of the body politic... hit him with some "you are a distraction" bug spray and ignore him... he's a duped minimum paid moron thinking he's helping the country... poor idiot.
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« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2012, 04:13:25 PM » |
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Yeah government trolls are easy to spot.
They are getting even easier to root out.
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« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2012, 10:28:38 AM » |
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The same morons that are telling you that this is a "GOOD THING" are he VERY SAME morons that told you moving your industries to China and Mexico would "HELP" the economy.
No it's NOT good. GET IT THROUGH YOUR MAGGOT FILLED HEAD!!!!!!! lol! -AJ
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« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2012, 11:00:44 AM » |
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ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!! INFO WARRIORS!!!!
It is absolutely imperative that if this happens in your town that you get out and video record ALL public disgust for what is happening.
We need to counter the proxy local / national MSM putting out the 'illusion' that the majority of Americans are for this.
You can run these videos on public access as well as Youtube but, it is very, very important we do this.
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« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2012, 08:58:52 PM » |
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These guys summed it up nicely, no need for an old foggy to rant. REPEAT  No it's NOT good. GET IT THROUGH YOUR MAGGOT FILLED HEAD!!!!!!! lol! -AJ Posted on: June 23, 2012, 04:13:25 PMPosted by: Constitutionary Insert Quote Yeah government trolls are easy to spot.They are getting even easier to root out. Posted on: June 23, 2012, 03:22:14 PMPosted by: JT Coyoté His whole premise is to attack the messenger and not the message... to make the discussion about Alex rather than allow folks to discuss the actual content of the story... many who are newly awakened can still be distracted by this type of moronic co-intel... Folks who have been here for a while know that the first 2 years of this forum was crawling with these content detracting parasites, like a case of lice on the head of the body politic... hit him with some "you are a distraction" bug spray and ignore him... he's a duped minimum paid moron thinking he's helping the country... poor idiot
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« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2012, 09:13:20 PM » |
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...and just like the 2 idiots in the video "championing" this INVASION are subjects of group think....and just like that.... the entire comment board goes to sjit (sh!t) because....
people who "need" people to feel comfortable...like they belong...do NOT want to stray off the BEATEN path and look outside the friggen box..... the majority is who is the real underlying common denominator who is screwing...us.
And in the same breath benefit "THEM/THEY" by putting their heads down...sticking to their "guns" and swallowing a load of gov funded psych warfare "benefits".
WTFrig are we doing about this?
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U.S. Military Purchasing Combat Equipment for Domestic Contingency Planninghttp://publicintelligence.net/u-s-domestic-contingency-purchasing/July 19, 2012  An example of a Stryker Infantry Carrier Vehicle operating in Iraq in July 2009. A number of Strykers and other combat vehicles are being purchased by the Department of Defense under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act for "homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities." Photo via Pennsylvania National Guard. Public Intelligence For the last two years, the President’s Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense have included purchases of a significant amount of combat equipment, including armored vehicles, helicopters and even artillery, under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for the purposes of “homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities.” Items purchased under the section include combat vehicles, tanks, helicopters, artillery, mortar systems, missiles, small arms and communications equipment. Justifications for the budget items indicate that many of the purchases are part of routine resupply and maintenance, yet in each case the procurement is cited as being “necessary for use by the active and reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities” under section 1815 of the FY2008 NDAA. Section 1815 of the FY2008 NDAA requires that every five years the Secretary of Defense work with the Secretary of Homeland Security to determine “military-unique capabilities needed to be provided by the Department of Defense to support civil authorities in an incident of national significance or a catastrophic incident.” The section defines “military-unique capabilities” as those that “cannot be provided by other Federal, State, or local civilian agencies” and are “essential to provide support to civil authorities in an incident of national significance or a catastrophic incident.” Once these “military-unique capabilities” have been determined in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Secretary of Defense must develop a plan for maintaining the capabilities as well as any “additional capabilities determined by the Secretary to be necessary to support the use of the active components and the reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities.” Once the plan is enacted the DoD must then “include in the materials accompanying the budget submitted for each fiscal year a request for funds necessary to carry out the plan . . . during the fiscal year covered by the budget.” Subsection (e) of section 1815 of the FY2008 NDAA also modifies the official roles and responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense stated in 10 USC § 113 to indicate that “with the approval of the President and after consultation with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff” the Secretary is responsible for providing “written policy guidance for the preparation and review of contingency plans, including plans for providing support to civil authorities in an incident of national significance or a catastrophic incident, for homeland defense, and for military support to civil authorities.” This guidance will be provided “every two years or more frequently as needed and shall include guidance on the specific force levels and specific supporting resource levels projected to be available for the period of time for which such plans are to be effective.” Origins of §1815 of the FY2008 NDAA Section 1815 of the FY2008 NDAA is the result of recommendations made by the Commission on the National Guard and Reserves (CNGR), a 13-member independent commission created by Congress in 2004. In their final report published in 2008, the CNGR describes section 1815 as a way of prioritizing domestic support missions within the military, allowing DoD to explicitly budget for resources needed in providing military support to civil authorities. The final report of the CNGR describes the Department of Homeland Security as “the federal agency with the most comprehensive national perspective on the response capabilities present in federal, state, and local government” placing it in the “best position to generate civil support requirements.” The CNGR report also recommends that DoD, the National Guard and DHS work to “exchange representatives” and personnel in advisory positions to increase common knowledge and training related to civil support missions. A Congressional Research Service report on the domestic support roles of U.S. Northern Command describes section 1815 of the FY2008 NDAA as a strengthening of the relationship between the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security: Seeking to continue to strengthen relationships between DHS and DOD, the 2008 NDAA directs the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, to determine what military-unique capabilities DOD provides that are necessary to support civil authorities during national catastrophic incidents. Additionally, the 2008 NDAA (P.L. 110-181) directs DOD to budget for additional requirements deemed necessary to conduct civil support missions. In November 2008, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates issued a memorandum on paths to implementing the CNGR’s suggestions. The memorandum orders the Secretaries of the military departments and the Commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, in coordination with the Commanders of U.S. Northern Command, U.S. Pacific Command and the Chief of the National Guard Bureau to identify critical dual-use (CDU) equipment as part of the military’s overall efforts to comply with section 1815 of the FY2008 NDAA. CDU is equipment that can be employed by National Guard and other military forces in both their federal and state missions allowing “personnel to assist civil authorities in responses to natural disasters, acts of terrorism, and other man-made disasters as identified in the national planning scenarios.” The Government Accountability Office released a report in 2010 on the DoD’s efforts to identify capabilities for supporting civil authorities during disasters and other emergencies. The capabilities-based assessment also noted that DOD is in the process of implementing Section 1815 of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008 (Pub. L. No. 110-181, §1815 (2008)), which requires DOD to work with DHS to determine the military-unique capabilities DOD needs to provide for civil support operations and to prepare a plan to provide funds and resources to maintain existing military-unique civil support capabilities or any additional capabilities required for homeland defense and civil support missions. According to the capabilities-based assessment, these efforts will ultimately inform the fiscal year 2012 programming and budget cycles with military-unique or other civil support capabilities required for DOD to respond to catastrophic or other incidents of national significance. Nearly a year after it was passed, the House Armed Services Committee reiterated its “strong support” for section 1815 of the 2008 NDAA and “urged” the DoD to comply with its planning requirements. The committee also encouraged DoD to incorporate “non-lethal capabilities” in its civil support planning: In connection with the Department’s mission for defense support to civil authorities, the committee notes that section 1815 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (Public Law 110-181) requires the Secretary of Defense to identify the military-unique capabilities required by the military services, including the reserve component, the joint commands, and defense agencies, to support civil authorities in an incident of national significance or catastrophic event. The committee urges the Department to comply with section 1815 and encourages the Department to determine whether there are non-lethal capability requirements for domestic homeland defense and defense support to civil authorities’ missions. Army Chief of Staff Ray Odierno wrote in a recent article in Foreign Affairs that the increasing use of the military in domestic situations will be part of a necessary evolution as it transitions to “responding in force to a range of complex contingencies” both inside the U.S. and abroad. Odierno states that the “need for U.S. armed forces, and the army in particular, to provide planning, logistical, command-and-control, and equipment support to civil authorities in the event of natural disasters continues to be demonstrated regularly and is unlikely to diminish.” The Army will “contribute to broader national efforts to counter those challenges at home, if needed” including using “active-duty forces, especially those with niche skills and equipment, to provide civilian officials with a robust set of reliable and rapid response options.” Source Material President’s Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense Referencing Section 1815 of FY2008 NDAA FY2013 Other Procurement, Army (1) Other Procurement, Army (2) Other Procurement, Army (3 & 4) Aircraft Procurement, Army Wheeled and Tracked Combat Vehicles, Army FY2012 Missile Procurement Other Procurement, Army (1) Other Procurement, Army (2) Other Procurement, Army (3 & 4) Aircraft Procurement, Army Wheeled and Tracked Combat Vehicles, Army PL 110-181 (FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act) SEC. 1815. DETERMINATION OF DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CIVIL SUPPORT REQUIREMENTS. (a) DETERMINATION OF REQUIREMENTS.—The Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall determine the military-unique capabilities needed to be provided by the Department of Defense to support civil authorities in an incident of national significance or a catastrophic incident. (b) PLAN FOR FUNDING CAPABILITIES.— (1) PLAN.—The Secretary of Defense shall develop and implement a plan, in coordination with the Secretaries of the military departments and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, for providing the funds and resources necessary to develop and maintain the following: (A) The military-unique capabilities determined under subsection (a). (B) Any additional capabilities determined by the Secretary to be necessary to support the use of the active components and the reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities. (2) TERM OF PLAN.—The plan required under paragraph (1) shall cover at least five years. (c) BUDGET.—The Secretary of Defense shall include in the materials accompanying the budget submitted for each fiscal year a request for funds necessary to carry out the plan required under subsection (b) during the fiscal year covered by the budget. The defense budget materials shall delineate and explain the budget treatment of the plan for each component of each military department, each combatant command, and each affected Defense Agency. (d) DEFINITIONS.—In this section: (1) The term ‘‘military-unique capabilities’’ means those capabilities that, in the view of the Secretary of Defense— (A) cannot be provided by other Federal, State, or local civilian agencies; and (B) are essential to provide support to civil authorities in an incident of national significance or a catastrophic incident. (2) The term ‘‘defense budget materials’’, with respect to a fiscal year, means the materials submitted to Congress by the Secretary of Defense in support of the budget for that fiscal year. (e) STRATEGIC PLANNING GUIDANCE.—Section 113(g)(2) of title 10, United States Code, is amended by striking ‘‘contingency plans’’ at the end of the first sentence and inserting the following: ‘‘contingency plans, including plans for providing support to civil authorities in an incident of national significance or a catastrophic incident, for homeland defense, and for military support to civil authorities’’. 10 USC § 113 (g) (2) The Secretary of Defense, with the approval of the President and after consultation with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, shall provide to the Chairman written policy guidance for the preparation and review of contingency plans, including plans for providing support to civil authorities in an incident of national significance or a catastrophic incident, for homeland defense, and for military support to civil authorities. Such guidance shall be provided every two years or more frequently as needed and shall include guidance on the specific force levels and specific supporting resource levels projected to be available for the period of time for which such plans are to be effective.
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10-Year U.S. Strategic Plan For Detention Camps Revives Proposals From Oliver Northhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/10-year-u-s-strategic-plan-for-detention-camps-revives-proposals-from-oliver-north/By Prof Peter Dale Scott Global Research, February 28, 2006 Pacific News February 21, 2006 Significantly, both the KBR contract and the ENDGAME plan are open-ended. The contract calls for a response to “an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs” in the event of other emergencies, such as “a natural disaster.” “New programs” is of course a term with no precise limitation. So, in the current administration, is ENDGAME’s goal of removing “potential terrorists.”
It is relevant that in 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced his desire to see camps for U.S. citizens deemed to be “enemy combatants.” On Feb. 17 of this year, in a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld spoke of the harm being done to the country’s security, not just by the enemy, but also by what he called “news informers” who needed to be combated in “a contest of wills.” Two days earlier, citing speeches critical of Bush by Al Gore, John Kerry, and Howard Dean, conservative columnist Ben Shapiro called for “legislation to prosecute such sedition.”
Since 9/11 the Bush administration has implemented a number of inter-related programs, which had been planned for secretly in the 1980s under President Reagan. These so-called “Continuity of Government” or COG proposals included vastly expanded detention capabilities, warrantless eavesdropping and detention, and preparations for greater use of martial law. Ten years is up...
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Puzzle Pieces: U.S. Northern Command Title 10 Dual Status Commander Standard Operating Procedureshttp://publicintelligence.net/usnorthcom-title-10-dsc-sop/ - January 31, 2012, exerpt The Council of Governors and the President of the United States have identified the need for Dual Status Commanders (DSC) to unify the response efforts within the 54 Territories and States of the United States of America. United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) has identified Title 10 Deputy Commanders (O-6 in grade) to lead a Joint Support Force Staff Element (JSF-SE) that will integrate with the State-Level DSC staff in order to provide unity of effort to the response of both Title 32/State Active Duty (SAD) and Title 10 forces. U.S. Army Doctrine Publication: Defense Support of Civil Authoritieshttp://publicintelligence.net/usarmy-dsca/ - July 26, 2012, exerpt Army forces support civil authorities by performing defense support of civil authorities tasks. Defense support of civil authorities is defined as support provided by United States Federal military forces, DoD [Department of Defense] civilians, DoD contract personnel, DoD component assets, and National Guard forces (when the Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Governors of the States, elects and requests to use those forces in title 32, United States Code, status) in response to requests for assistance from civil authorities for domestic emergencies, law enforcement support, and other domestic activities, or from qualifying entities for special events. Also known as civil support (DODD 3025.18). Restricted U.S. Army Training for Reconnaissance Troop and Below in Urban Operationshttp://publicintelligence.net/usarmy-urban-recon/ - February 2010, exerpt ■Conduct cordon and search operations, including site exploitation (SE). ■Conduct roadblock/checkpoint operations. ■Conduct civil disturbance operations. ■Secure civilians during operations. ■ Process detainees and enemy prisoners of war ■Conduct area security, including presence patrols. ■Conduct convoy escort. ■Conduct route clearance operations. 3-65. The following factors apply for the platoon in attempting to dominate the situation: ■ Although units can dominate a civil disturbance using nonlethal munitions, it is important to consider force protection issues. In addition, if aviation assets are available, reconnaissance or utility helicopters can provide a show of force. Attack helicopters should be used in anoverwatch or reserve position. ■ Forces may need to detain group leaders or instigators to dominate a civil disturbance. An instigator is identified as a person who is “prodding” others to commit disruptive acts or who is orchestrating the group. Often, an instigator carries a bullhorn or hand-held radio. ■ The smallest unit that can employ the “snatch-and-grab” technique is a platoon. Before a platoon deploys to quell a riot, identify a four-person snatch-and-grab team, two to secure the individual and two to provide security. It is imperative that each member of the snatch-and-grab team wears the Kevlar helmet with face shield and flak vest, but the team should not bring weapons or load-bearing equipment with them into the crowd. See Figure 3-15 for an illustration of the snatch-and-grab team. ■In accordance with Executive Order 11850, the President of the United States must approve the use of the riot control agency (RCA). The U.S. policy is to employ RCAs in limited circumstances, though never as a method of warfare. Commanders should be conscious that use of RCAs might pose a risk of escalation or public panic if it creates the erroneous perception that a chemical weapon is being used. ■Another element that is crucial for successful civil disturbance operations is the use of combat camera personnel. Document events to hold personnel, factions, and gangs or groups accountable. To ensure that the right message is being presented, control the information environment through the synchronized efforts of information engagement assets, with support from the staff judge advocate (SJA) and civil affairs (CA) offices.UN to hold arms trade treaty conference in Marchsacbee.comLast Modified: Monday, Dec. 24, 2012 - 7:09 pm UNITED NATIONS -- The U.N. General Assembly voted overwhelmingly late Monday to hold a conference in March to try to reach agreement on a U.N. treaty to regulate the multibillion-dollar global arms trade. A resolution approved by a vote of 133-0 with 17 abstentions will bring the 193 U.N. member states back to the negotiating table following their failure to reach agreement on a treaty in July. Hopes of reaching a treaty in July were dashed when the United States said it needed more time to consider the proposed treaty - and Russia and China then also asked for a delay. ...continues... G.I. Joe: Retaliation (planned release March 29, 2013)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Joe:_RetaliationThe film will feature the G.I. Joe Team coming into a conflict with Zartan, Storm Shadow and Firefly, all serving under the newly released Cobra Commander. Zartan (who is still impersonating the President of the United States) frames all G.I. Joe operatives as traitors to the United States, exterminating most of them and leaving a small group of survivors. Zartan and the Commander now have all the world leaders under Cobra's control, with their advanced warheads aimed at innocent populaces around the world. Badly beaten, outnumbered and outgunned, the Joes make a desperate plan to overthrow Cobra Commander and take back the world, with their secret black operation called the "Second American Revolution", which involves the return of the original G.I. Joe General Joseph Colton. The movie was previously slated for release on June 29, 2012, but in May 2012, Paramount Pictures announced they were delaying the film's release until March 29, 2013, officially to add 3D and boost interest in international markets.
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DHS Buys 200,000 More Rounds of AmmunitionFederal government continues to arm itself to the teeth while Obama administration pushes gun controlPaul Joseph Watson Infowars.com January 4, 2013While the Obama administration sets out to eviscerate the gun rights of American citizens in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, earlier this week it was announced that the Department of Homeland Security has awarded a company a contract worth over $45,000 dollars to provide the DHS with 200,000 more rounds of bullets. This new purchase adds to the staggering figure of 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition already secured by the DHS over the last 9 months alone. A solicitation originally posted on the FedBizOpps.gov website on December 17 on behalf of the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center advertised the need for 200 cases of 13–40 Cal, 180 Grain, Jacketed Hollow Point bullets, with each case containing 1000 rounds, to be delivered almost immediately as soon as the contract is awarded. The bullets are to be delivered to a training site in North Charleston, South Carolina, which “specializes in Maritime Law Enforcement and Port Security Training. Basic and advanced training programs are conducted in concert with the U.S. Coast Guard Maritime Law Enforcement Academy, the U.S. Courts Probation and Pretrial Services Training Academy, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Training Academy, the Customs and Border Protection Field Operations Academy, and the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.” The winner of the contract to provide the DHS with the ammunition, announced on January 2, was Evian Group Inc., an organization that was formed just five days before the announcement of the solicitation. As James Smith documents, Evian Group seems to be little more than a front organization and doesn’t appear to have any real business assets, a genuine physical address, a website, or even a phone number. Back in August, the Department of Homeland Security censored information relating to the amount of bullets purchased by the DHS on behalf of Immigration & Customs Enforcement, citing an “unusual and compelling urgency” to acquire the bullets, noting that there is a shortage of bullets which is threatening a situation that could cause “substantial safety issues for the government” should law enforcement officials not be adequately armed. The information was blacked out despite the fact that documents are only supposed to be redacted if authorized by Congress or for national security reasons. The contradiction of the Obama administration preaching gun control while simultaneously the federal government arms itself to the teeth with an arsenal that would be enough to wage a full scale 7 year ground war is jaw-dropping. As Mike Adams highlights, “A citizen is considered to be a stockpiling “terrorist” prepper if they own just 1,000 rounds of ammo. The government, however, can purchase billions and the mainstream media doesn’t even question it.” “Where is all this ammunition going? It’s being stockpiled by the federal government, awaiting some future event during which it will apparently be “activated.” Why else would you stockpile something if you don’t anticipate needing to use it someday?” “During all this, Obama and his cohorts in Washington are loudly insisting that American citizens have no right to purchase firearms or ammunition, and that new laws will soon be enacted to make sure you cannot do what the government does: stockpile weapons and ammo.” Indeed, the double standard is staggering and while Americans are being raided for stockpiling “arsenals” of weapons that subsequently turn out to be no more than a few guns, the federal government is simultaneously building a very real and substantial arsenal while the mainstream media turns a blind eye. Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News.
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for newcommers purposes: MIAC Report: "Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer." infowars article MIAC text
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« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2013, 08:44:47 AM » |
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DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunitionhttp://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/Paul Joseph Watson | Federal agency has now acquired enough bullets to wage 30 year war.
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« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2013, 08:49:38 AM » |
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Don't be askared. Maybe the "government" is just getting ready to make more straw purchases for Mexican Drug Cartels. They gotta get that deficit under control somehow.
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« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2013, 08:57:10 AM » |
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Well thank you very much, they will not be able to keep it, as soon as they start running out of idiots to shoot it at the Americian people it will be falling back into the hands of the American people.
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« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2013, 04:05:05 PM » |
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for newcommers purposes: MIAC Report: "Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer." infowars article MIAC textThank you Sasha for the review, especially the MIAC text!
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« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2013, 04:53:19 PM » |
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Obviously paranoia has set in!  You people need to get educated and quit sitting in the corner huddled in fear thinking every little thing is the big bad wolf. Did any of you read that info? It is a contrct for ONE year, with 4 optional one year extensions. The government does not have to meet the contrct for a second year, etc., AND the contract is for whatever amount the government needs during that period, which is why it says "indefinate" amount and "up to" 450 million rounds. If the contract is not renewed after the first year, then they won't get anywhere near that many rounds. The contract is NOT for an amount of rounds, it's for a time period and whatever may be needed during that contract period. And has anybody here even considered just how many law enforcement personel work under DHS? And how much shooting range practice they have? Ask a cop. They go through a lot rounds just themselves at the range. And they don't have a clue how many rounds the public has in it's stores! Much more than the government would care to deal with I suspect. Reminds me of chicken little!  The real problem to worry about is the new Executive Order Obama just signed on the 16th I think that allows the President to take control of the country basically. No one trains with Hollow points........ to expensive. They're being purchased to fire at someone.
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« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2013, 05:06:13 PM » |
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Thank you Sasha for the review, especially the MIAC text!
Sure thing.
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« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2013, 05:55:08 PM » |
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Come on people........... keep your heads up
REMEMBER this is the same nation, along with DHS securing the borders...............
Buy a sombrero and where a poncho......... walk to where ever you want to go. They'll feed you..... and house you..... and see to your every needs.........
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« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2013, 05:56:09 PM » |
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Might be better to "WEAR" a poncho.... but.... you get my drift.
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« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2013, 06:40:58 AM » |
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No one trains with Hollow points........ to expensive. They're being purchased to fire at someone.
DHS is supplying police and contracted security with practice ammo. Most of them believe in practicing with the same ammo they use...which is hollow point. This is why police, local to federal, don't find these purchases odd. That's how they justify laughing at us on this point. I agree with earlier posts...it is being bought up to reduce supply to the public. It is being passed out to the people they trust most...government agents, obviously.
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« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2013, 11:07:10 AM » |
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DHS is supplying police and contracted security with practice ammo. Most of them believe in practicing with the same ammo they use...which is hollow point. This is why police, local to federal, don't find these purchases odd. That's how they justify laughing at us on this point.
BULL$H!T ......... and speaking from hands on experience.............. they DO NOT practice with hollow points.......... <<<<< RARELY >>>>>>> EVER.............. Not trying to be argumentative........ they just don't .......... I'm an armorer and gunsmith.. and participate at the range with these guys...... they do NOT do that. They even re-cert with full metal jacket............
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« Reply #75 on: February 08, 2013, 02:12:56 PM » |
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BULL$H!T ......... and speaking from hands on experience.............. they DO NOT practice with hollow points.......... <<<<< RARELY >>>>>>> EVER..............
Not trying to be argumentative........ they just don't .......... I'm an armorer and gunsmith.. and participate at the range with these guys...... they do NOT do that. They even re-cert with full metal jacket............
Police don't carry full metal jacket on the streets. They carry a round that won't pass through a wall or a car door and kill an innocent bystander. If you have to "re-cert" for FMJ, that suggests a difference in firing the two types of round. Which would seem to support what several law enforcement/private security people have told me when I asked if it was suspicious for DHS to buy hollow point. They all said that they prefer to practice targeting with the ammo they will use in the field. Which is why I posted what I did...that police and security who receive this ammo from DHS, are told it's for practice...and, they apparently believe it. At least in Indiana...I can't speak for every backwater. BTW...you can claim to be whatever you want on this forum...just don't expect anyone to believe it without some proof.
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« Reply #76 on: February 08, 2013, 02:35:30 PM » |
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They really need that much .40 caliber "hollow point" ammunition for the borders, WTF? Sounds more like preparation for all out war! ATK Secures .40 Caliber Ammunition Contract with Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (DHS, ICE)
--ATK Wins Five-Year, Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity Contract for .40 Caliber Ammunition from DHS, ICE --Additional .40 Caliber Ammunition Contract with 450 Million Round Potential Demonstrates ATK's Leadership in Ammunition ManufacturingANOKA, Minn., March 12, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- ATK ATK +0.99% announced that it is being awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) agreement from the Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (DHS, ICE) for .40 caliber ammunition. This contract features a base of 12 months, includes four option years, and will have a maximum volume of 450 million rounds. ATK was the incumbent and won the contract with its HST bullet, which has proven itself in the field. The special hollow point effectively passes through a variety of barriers and holds its jacket in the toughest conditions. HST is engineered for 100-percent weight retention, limits collateral damage, and avoids over-penetration. "We are proud to extend our track record as the prime supplier of .40 caliber duty ammunition for DHS, ICE," said Ron Johnson, President of ATK's Security and Sporting group. "The HST is a proven design that will continue to serve those who keep our borders safe." ATK will produce the ammunition at the Federal Cartridge Company facility in Anoka, Minn. Deliveries are expected to begin in June. ATK is an aerospace, defense, and commercial products company with operations in 22 states, Puerto Rico, and internationally. News and information can be found on the Internet at www.atk.com . More: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/atk-secures-40-caliber-ammunition-contract-with-department-of-homeland-security-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-dhs-ice-2012-03-12?reflink=MW_news_stmpNo I don't believe they need that much ammo to do their job. I don't know if they are planning for a civil war or just trying to starve the market so nobody else can buy ammo. Either way, it's a bad sign. There are many good Agents working, but there are many Agents who will simply do what they're told so they won't lose their job, or so they can promote. I can tell you with certainty that with the new hiring procedures, they are bringing in the type of people they want. If someone thinks for themselves and believes in freedom from government tyranny, I can almost guarantee that they will not be hired. These new hiring procedures ensure that they will get the "yes man" types they are looking for, not independent minded and self-reliant people. Keep in mind though, that there are still some good people in there, that have been there a while, and there is nothing stopping us from waking the "TV" head new Agents up to what's going on.
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« Reply #77 on: February 08, 2013, 04:10:42 PM » |
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Police don't carry full metal jacket on the streets. They carry a round that won't pass through a wall or a car door and kill an innocent bystander. If you have to "re-cert" for FMJ, that suggests a difference in firing the two types of round. Which would seem to support what several law enforcement/private security people have told me when I asked if it was suspicious for DHS to buy hollow point. They all said that they prefer to practice targeting with the ammo they will use in the field. Which is why I posted what I did...that police and security who receive this ammo from DHS, are told it's for practice...and, they apparently believe it. At least in Indiana...I can't speak for every backwater.
BTW...you can claim to be whatever you want on this forum...just don't expect anyone to believe it without some proof.
I'll remember all that, next time I'm loading the truck full of CCI ............. They don't TRAIN with Hollow points! They ALL go through 200-300 CCI practice rounds and then RE-LOAD with their duty ammo, and usually take THREE MAYBE FOUR shots, to be confident the load they practiced with was close. DHS DOESN'T NEED BILLIONS of rounds to do that.......... NONE of the police departments let their men practice with the duty ammo anymore. To expansive and hard to get these days. DON'T GIVE ME A BATCH OF SHIT for relaying my day in and day out job.......... YOU WANNA RATIONALIZE this CRAP we're all having to deal with.... FINE.......... ! Remember all this when your the target! AND WHY THE F#^K AM I the enemy for relaying info...........
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« Reply #78 on: February 15, 2013, 07:19:52 AM » |
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Just as I put in my "BULLSHIT" post..and you can remember this while you're loading your (trash) truck. Homeland Security and its cache of bulletshttp://news.yahoo.com/homeland-security-cache-bullets-190840538.htmlThe Homeland Security Department wants to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years. It says it needs them — roughly the equivalent of five bullets for every person in the United States — for law enforcement agents in training and on duty. DHS is supplying police and contracted security with practice ammo. Most of them believe in practicing with the same ammo they use...which is hollow point. This is why police, local to federal, don't find these purchases odd. That's how they justify laughing at us on this point.
I agree with earlier posts...it is being bought up to reduce supply to the public. It is being passed out to the people they trust most...government agents, obviously.
Next time, before you call bullshit, maybe check into things a little. I told you the excuse and why police don't think it's odd. They get their ammo from DHS. Here it is being spun exactly that way by the media. Just like I said. Don't mind telling you, in particular...I told you so.  And, BTW...you're obviously wrong about this: They don't TRAIN with Hollow points!
~~~~~~~~~ That article mentions Jones, BTW...
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« Reply #79 on: February 15, 2013, 08:58:54 AM » |
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Hey 37 Believe what you want............. It's my job........ THEY do not train, NOR do they get stacks and stacks of hollow point to train with. MAYBE some of the DHS (WHATEVER THEY ARE) do. WHATS THAT.... half of one percent. Law enforcement doesn't Of coarse, I CAN ONLY speak for the southeast U.S and on occasion as far west as Jacksonville Arkansas. WE in the S.W. don't get stacks and stacks of ammo from DHS WE IN THE SOUTHWEST........ train with those big blue plastic boxes of miss matched ammo. After training, the practice ammo comes out on the table, and all manufactures of ammo wind up in the boxes.... then they RELOAD their duty ammo Boxes and boxes of mismatched .223 and 5.56 ..... soft point, hollow points, FMJ, Federal, some Lake city, even some steel Wolf crap....... THAT'S what law enforcement TRAINS WITH !!! same apply to the .40, 9mm, and so forth boxes and boxes of brass from the range to reload......... THEY SHOOT ANYTHING they can get their hands on. Even aluminum CCI........... Whats the matter with you....... ON HERE OF ALL PLACES. You believe ALL the crap you read! I KNOW OFFICERS that buy their OWN duty ammo, out of their own pocket! I KNOW of departments that can't get anything they need right now........ I CAN'T GET receivers OR the parts I need to fill orders and needs OF LAW ENFORCEMENT! COME ON... there MUST be some of the LEO's out there I work with ......... confirm this for me......if you'd be so kind The public needs to know..... DHS and the stories you're believing are 99% BS... as I said before IF DHS IS using millions and millions of dollars of hollow point duty ammo to train with....... THAT should scare you even more. THAT THEY think they're so much more important than LE .....that they can just FLUSH our money down the drain to train with expensive ammo all the time. EVERYONE wants to train with the DUTY AMMO...........DUH NO ONE IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not the hours of practice time.....................no way. You're delusional if you think that You're drinking the coolaid ......... only a very TINY percent of FBI, DHS and others are living the luxury of endless amounts of whatever they want BACK TO IMPORTANT..... WHO IS DHS........  Why aren't you yelling and screaming at the top of your lungs........ WHY DO THEY NEED all this AMMO....... and demand answers......... Because, as far as we can tell, they only need it....... is to shoot US. THEY AREN'T GOING TO SHOOT BILLIONS OF ROUNDS AT A TARGET!
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