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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 04:30:50 AM » |
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"us"? Who is "us"?
Do you know who those "Sovereign Citizens" are? Do you know their history? I suspect you don't, or you wouldn't support them.
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"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
1 Timothy 6:10 (KJB)
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This?!? This is my BOOMSTICK!!!
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 05:57:08 AM » |
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Wait just a minute! I like to read / watch Stefan Molyneux. He is an Anarcho-Capitalist. Dose that make me a trashcan throwing window smashing Anarchist? No. It is sophistry. I think you are allowing the myth by making comments like this. Are there crazy sovereigns out there? You betcha. Are there crazy AJ supporters? Yep. Are there crazy blacks, whites, enironmentalists, socialists, etc, etc. It's a classic tactic. Find a group that is distasteful. Demonize them. Apply the lable to a broader group. There are some crazy ass people in that movement. Comments like that only feed into the governments effort to demonize a larger group and thusly, squash any group who criticizes it. The sovereign movement has some very good points and is worth researching. Unfortunately, it is a dead end. It has been taken way too far and is getting wacky as hell. That being said, it is a subject that one can research and take away a lot of good info. You just have to recognize the looneytoon stuff and leave it alone. Participating in the demonization of this movement ensures that when they apply that lable to you, it will stick. You don't have to support them. Just don't support the myth either.
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At one time I had nothing but the clothes on my back and a will to survive. The day may come when that is all I need. A man should die with his boots on and the sun on his shoulders.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 07:00:27 AM » |
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Hey Kilika, I don't care either way but you can take that report and substitute the name of the group to what ever you want and as long as it's not the weather underground , black panthers , or bildaberg group for that matter their gonna tell it the same way. Have you not been reading the DHS reports on who's a national threat? EVERYONE who does not agree with them or submit. So I'm just saying before you put everyone in every group in 1 category look in the mirror because just being on this site, somewhere makes you a threat to national security.
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Jacob Law
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2012, 08:20:02 AM » |
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This may be like Free Man on the Land, Alex has talked about it a bit.
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What do you under-stand?
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2012, 12:59:50 PM » |
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Epic comment from the comments section... " sovereign citizen is an oxymoron" |
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chris jones
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2012, 07:45:40 PM » |
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End Game.
The elites have plans on the table, yes they have begun, but not in full. The Gov influence has begun the machines DARPA, lableing, profiliing, among other projects to incude, DOD,CIA,DHS, FBI, not all are in involved it is compatmentalized, but those on the inside are deep and powerfull.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2012, 08:35:10 PM » |
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The way people are brain washed these days by the media is that MOST SANE people believe ARE sovereign but, they're brain washed to be 'afraid' of what they truly are?
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Kilika
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2012, 03:14:44 AM » |
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Hey Kilika, I don't care either way but you can take that report and substitute the name of the group to what ever you want and as long as it's not the weather underground , black panthers , or bildaberg group for that matter their gonna tell it the same way. Have you not been reading the DHS reports on who's a national threat? EVERYONE who does not agree with them or submit. So I'm just saying before you put everyone in every group in 1 category look in the mirror because just being on this site, somewhere makes you a threat to national security.
Excuse me? Are you feeling insecure about the group you support? All I said was take a closer look at who your supporting. The vast majority of these "groups" are government-run by socialists looking to drag everybody into their little slave system all the while "preaching" THEY are the way to freedom. If you or others feel the insecure need to associate yourself with some group, why isn't the group called "American Citizen" not good enough? Instead you align with some radical social activist group? Whatever. And for the record, the world already considers me the enemy and hates me, so what? I ain't skeered! Just wait till those thugs have to deal with my Father! It won't be pretty! |
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"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
1 Timothy 6:10 (KJB)
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2012, 07:11:03 AM » |
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I guess you speak about the Sovereign Citizen Movement because you are in it, and therefore have some personal insight...
No, you just speak from the outside, and you sound a lot like the dizzy bitch introducing the report, who claims that they are all violent. Either they are all feds or they are all violent, either way you are both trying to marginalize them. Which, of course, makes me want to take a closer look.
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DireWolf
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2012, 02:19:31 PM » |
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End Game.
The elites have plans on the table, yes they have begun, but not in full. The Gov influence has begun the machines DARPA, lableing, profiliing, among other projects to incude, DOD,CIA,DHS, FBI, not all are in involved it is compatmentalized, but those on the inside are deep and powerfull.
The takeover is run like any business. Only those at the top know the true agenda, those who might prove useful (and disposable) may be given some insight but only enough to make what they are being told to do seem reasonable. Question: could someone please explain an exact definition of a "sovereign citizen" and is there truly such an entity in the eyes of the law. I consider my self sovereign in the aspect that I obey only those laws that are moral and just in scope (I disregard the rest) and seek not to take advantage of others, nor hurt anyone unless forced to defend myself or others when needed. Need there be more to it than that? |
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Freedom and Liberty, or slavery and death, your choice, choose wisely.
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chris jones
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2012, 07:40:42 PM » |
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The takeover is run like any business. Only those at the top know the true agenda, those who might prove useful (and disposable) may be given some insight but only enough to make what they are being told to do seem reasonable.
Question: could someone please explain an exact definition of a "sovereign citizen" and is there truly such an entity in the eyes of the law.
I consider my self sovereign in the aspect that I obey only those laws that are moral and just in scope (I disregard the rest) and seek not to take advantage of others, nor hurt anyone unless forced to defend myself or others when needed. Need there be more to it than that?
Need there be more to it than that? NOPE |
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