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« on: March 09, 2012, 12:46:08 AM »

Ron Paul in 2001: "There's nothing to fear from globalism... and a single worldwide currency."

“There’s nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency.... The effort in recent decades to unify government surveillance over all world trade and international financial transactions through the UN, IMF, World Bank, WTO, ICC, the OECD, and the Bank of International Settlements can never substitute for a peaceful world based on true free trade, freedom of movement, a single but sound market currency, and voluntary contracts with private property rights....

The ultimate solution will only come with the rejection of fiat money worldwide, and a restoration of commodity money. Commodity money if voluntarily and universally accepted could give us a single world currency requiring no money managers, no manipulators orchestrating a man-made business cycle with rampant price inflation.”

-Congressman Ron Paul (Congressional Record, 13 March, 2001)


Ron Paul: "Nothing to fear from global currency" (C-SPAN 3/13/2001)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dH3_Lcfeac

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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 02:32:56 AM »

 Roll Eyes Yeah dude, GOLD is a true world currency if all national paper is backed by it, go troll somewhere else.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 05:45:08 AM »

Roll Eyes Yeah dude, GOLD is a true world currency if all national paper is backed by it, go troll somewhere else.
TWILIGHT OF THE OLD BOYS NETWORK
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Listen at 1:09 to 1:11 Bob Dean tells the real reason for the value of Gold.

If you don't believe try some monoatomic gold yourself or make some colloidal gold.  It changes consciousness.   

 
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 06:11:34 AM »

What is truly amazing is that the original post was written by someone who also posted the following:

Learn some critical thinking skills. Don't blindly fall for mumbo jumbo rubbish on the internet. There are a lot of nut jobs on the web peddling garbage. You must learn HOW to separate the JUNK from the quality factual stuff.

All the stuff you give me is all based on internet junk. It's a disgrace really, that garbage about New World Order on the U.S dollar bill. That latin shit doesn't mean NWO. Some moron on the web who can't read latin peddled that crap and you fell for it?

You can't be that gullible and naive to blindly follow some quack on the web.

Think. LEARN CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS.

Reading, Writing, and Researching for History: A Guide
http://www.bowdoin.edu/writing-guides/

This is a totally wrong way to analyse speeches and documents. You are jumping to conclusions.

"New World Order(political lingo)" and "new World Order(right wing conspiracy theory)" are completely different things.

It is totally wrong to mix the two together. This type of analytical methodology is unsound and is not in accord with scientific principles and must be thoroughly rejected.

The fallacy you just made is called "Jumping to Conclusions".


Jumping to conclusions is a common type of error or fallacy in reasoning or thinking, in which a [u]person draws conclusions which are not warranted from available information. [/u]

In the language of cognitive behavioral therapy, jumping to conclusions is one of the common cognitive distortions characteristic of depression and anxiety. In depression or anxiety, a person often falsely concludes that things are going to go wrong, or that they have done something wrong. However, people can also jump to false conclusions in ways that introduce positive bias, or other sorts of bias.

When jumping to conclusions, a person skips the step of considering possible interpretations for a situation, and instead jumps right to accepting whatever interpretation seems most plausible to them. In general, when people jump to conclusions, they tend to pick interpretations that fit their own existing view of the world. Jumping to conclusions, when it becomes a chronic problem, thus tends to lead to people getting stuck in their own viewpoint, even when it does not fit with reality...

http://cazort.net/topic/jumping-to-conclusions


This type of lazy and erroneous thinking must be corrected and disapproved, it cannot be approved.

It is a complete error to say that "New World Order(political lingo)" and "New World Order(right wing conspiracy theory)" are one and the same. They are totally different.

Ahmadinejad's "New World Order" has nothing whatsoever to do with the right wing conspiracy theory NWO.

That video is an embarrassment to proper historical scholarship.

Only lazy or people with no critical thinking skills would buy the information in that video.

Here is a good guide on how to do proper historical research and how to avoid common fallacies:

Reading, Writing, and Researching for History: A Guide
http://www.bowdoin.edu/writing-guides/


Everyone wants a "New World Order".


I want a NWO, you want a NWO, even my neighbour's dog wants a NWO. Cheesy


I myself want a completely New World Order.

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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 06:20:45 AM »

Money is $lavery   Gold money is $lavery to the Alien Annunaki Illuminati
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 06:38:12 AM »

What is truly amazing is that the original post was written by someone who also posted the following:


A man standing in a rowboat with a giant hole in the middle; arguing that the boat is floating, so there's no problem. Then he'll try to tell you that there is more than one meaning of the word "float", and those who claim the boat is sinking are conspiracy theorists. He won't wake up until he's forced to tread water.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 06:42:43 AM »

Money is $lavery   Gold money is $lavery to the Alien Annunaki Illuminati

money is slavery? really? is that what caused the pharaohs in egypt? money?

the control of money, the manipulation of monetary policy can add to slavery, but money is not slavery. the love of money is the root of all evil, but money itself is not.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 07:23:58 AM »

I can understand that Ahmedinejad's(shiite/hijacked islam) nwo is not exactly the one advocated by the cfr or the intl banksters, but to say that what the alternative media has been warning abt for decades is not the type that is openly being implemented is truly a mental disorder called denial of reality. This tactic was somewhat effective years ago to suppress and ridicule, but not anymore. Now even they are calling for ending the democratic system and putting intl banksters in control of whole nations. Is this a good nwo they are putting in place?

Here is an example of a sunni muslim calling for a nwo, but i guess this is a genuine example of a not-so-bad nwo. The one called for in globalist lingo is very very bad for most ppl, but good for a tiny elite.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google&v=eR4_8pore7E
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2012, 07:28:10 AM »

So I'm watching the video the OP has posted, I see Ron Paul, I see him saying that there is nothing wrong with globalism, a single world wide currency and "free-trade", but the mods change the title of this thread as if this is trolling ?
I don't get how posting this video is trolling at all. the fact that the OP shares similar globalists views as Ron Paul (as Paul clearly states in the video above) doesn't mean this post is somehow trolling.

How about comments on the actual contents of the video?

Is it ok to want a one world globalist system as long as it stands behind a universal gold standard, non-intervening government policies in any sector of the economy, policies that are protecting rights only of those who control and own capital, while letting charity and all the non-formal and personally-initiated agencies to take care of people in need or hurt (ESPECIALLY during an oligarchical-engineered financial crisis like the one our world is experiencing today) ?
What if a country wants fiat money as its legal tender currency?, what if a country doesn't want to play in this "free-trade" globalist game ? Are there any consequences to a country that challenges the anarcho-capitalist paradigm, according to Paul's globalist utopia ?

Personally I think any globalist ambitions of any kind are disastrous and dangerous to every sovereign country and citizen around the world. I don't care who stands behind promoting those ideas, whether its George Bush, Bill Gates or Ron Paul - Globalist sentiments are just wrong!

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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 07:38:58 AM »

Roll Eyes Yeah dude, GOLD is a true world currency if all national paper is backed by it, go troll somewhere else.


The world should have one world currency backed by Gold. I support Ron Paul's New World Order agenda of one world currency.

Please support Ron Paul's New World Order.

I support one world currency and destruction of U.S dollar.



Ron Paul supports a One World Currency of Government determined Fixed Exchange Rates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb3nUDprc_Y
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 07:41:46 AM »

there is also the fallacy of those that say they do not want any global order at all. There's always going to be some kind of global order. We're in one right now. So those abusing the term nwo to deny any and all order are fooling themselves. Or just messing around. The term used in alternative media lingo (and globalist lingo, but approvingly) refers to a specific, widely documented, openly criminal one.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 07:42:57 AM »

I support the new World order and destruction of U.S dollar.

I have same views as Ron Paul.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2012, 07:47:34 AM »

So I'm watching the video the OP has posted, I see Ron Paul, I see him saying that there is nothing wrong with globalism, a single world wide currency and "free-trade", but the mods change the title of this thread as if this is trolling ?
I don't get how posting this video is trolling at all. the fact that the OP shares similar globalists views as Ron Paul (as Paul clearly states in the video above) doesn't mean this post is somehow trolling.

How about comments on the actual contents of the video?

Is it ok to want a one world globalist system as long as it stands behind a universal gold standard, non-intervening government policies in any sector of the economy, policies that are protecting rights only of those who control and own capital, while letting charity and all the non-formal and personally-initiated agencies to take care of people in need or hurt (ESPECIALLY during an oligarchical-engineered financial crisis like the one our world is experiencing today) ?
What if a country wants fiat money as its legal tender currency?, what if a country doesn't want to play in this "free-trade" globalist game ? Are there any consequences to a country that challenges the anarcho-capitalist paradigm, according to Paul's globalist utopia ?

Personally I think any globalist ambitions of any kind are disastrous and dangerous to every sovereign country and citizen around the world. I don't care who stands behind promoting those ideas, whether its George Bush, Bill Gates or Ron Paul - Globalist sentiments are just wrong!

Personally, I think denying the universal truisms in the constitution is absurd. The world was actually seeing the prosperity available to all individuals in a free society where unalienable rights were protected. The US was an example to all nations who could choose it voluntarily. But, when the Carnegie, Ford, and Rockefeller Foundations along with British Empire Agent Colenol House shifted our foreign and domestic policies to being anti-freedom and assassinations of all those who preached freedom then things took a dive downward.

Are you proposing the idea that voluntary adherance to unalienable rights on a universal level be attacked by force or with 'soft power'? Because that is what the CFR has been doing up until now with the 1953 coup in Iran, the coup in Guatemala, the assassinations in Vietnam, the propping up of Stalin, Mao, Hussein, Sha, etc. The assassinations of Malcolm X, MLK, JFK, RFK, Wellstone, etc. I personally am against denying the inalienable rights of human beings using the premise that allowing people inalienable rights is "disasterous".

You are saying that you want to protect sovereign countries, but you are saying you would deny them the possibility of voluntarily choosing to allow protection of analienable rights. Again, this was the justification for 70+ years of CIA interventions, assassinations, and the genocide of over 6 million according to former directors of CIA operations.

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2012, 07:51:22 AM »

Ron Paul: For a One-World Currency?

In this informal interview Ron Paul seems to promote not only adoption of a gold-backed currency for the U.S., but a one-world gold-backed currency (at approximately 3:08 in the video).

I wonder who he figures will issue this one-world currency, if I understand him correctly:

http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2008/01/ron-paul-for-one-world-currency.html



I think all Ron Paul supporters should support his New World Order One world currency and end the hegemony of the U.S fiat dollar.


All the way to the One world currency! Cool
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2012, 08:04:32 AM »


The world should have one world currency backed by Gold.

He said commodities based because any one commodity can be manipulated. But, you should already know this.

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I support Ron Paul's New World Order agenda of one world currency.

There is no reason to just lie about what he said. A new world order uses the word "ORDER" yet ron paul has mentioned freedom, voluntary, etc. so you are doing a good job trolling but a poor job in accurately defining what dr. paul said.

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Please support Ron Paul's New World Order.

bwaaaaaaaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, wow, you ain't even trying to hide this new troll narrative are you.

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I support one world currency and destruction of U.S dollar.

well if you are supporting ron paul then you are supporting competition in currency and a voluntary acceptance of a commodity based universal currency

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LATEST CFR FALSE NARRATIVE: Ron Paul supports a One World Currency of Government determined Fixed Exchange Rates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb3nUDprc_Y

Thanks for alerting us to this latest ridiculous attempt by the CFR to distract from the Freedom Movement.

Bilderberg must be shitting in their pants to go with this one.
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2012, 08:07:59 AM »


Thanks for alerting us to this latest ridiculous attempt by the CFR to distract from the Freedom Movement.

I think that was RT, not CFR.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2012, 08:09:28 AM »

A man standing in a rowboat with a giant hole in the middle; arguing that the boat is floating, so there's no problem. Then he'll try to tell you that there is more than one meaning of the word "float", and those who claim the boat is sinking are conspiracy theorists. He won't wake up until he's forced to tread water.


Thanks that's great
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2012, 08:09:40 AM »

I support the new World order and destruction of U.S dollar.

That is obvious

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I have same views as Ron Paul.

Maybe in a Philip Zelikow parallel universe,but in reality you are simply trolling to cause division based on absurdities.

But you are helpful to let people know the latest and greatest false narrative so thanks for that.
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2012, 08:11:40 AM »

I think that was RT, not CFR.

Look up the CFR and see how they create false narratives using crap from RT, ABC, etc.
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2012, 08:20:32 AM »

money is slavery? really? is that what caused the pharaohs in egypt? money?

the control of money, the manipulation of monetary policy can add to slavery, but money is not slavery. the love of money is the root of all evil, but money itself is not.

I live in Arizona surrounded by Native Indians.  They used to view things as gifts and share without keeping count. Free to give. free to take .  Hunter gatherers Work four hours a day on average, every culture that doesn't use money. Money is European curse .  The Navajo miners I work with here in Globe are figuring  this out.  They make about $30 hr but would rather be hunting and fishing like the old ways. We talk about it a lot.
BTW the copper and gold mine here is letting the town rot. The streets are cracking and the cities bridges are falling into disrepair.  Just like everywhere else in the US.  The federal highway is doing great though.   Do a little honest research about gold and the beloved gold standard. It si not the magic panacea that we are taught it is.
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2012, 02:10:44 PM »

Personally, I think denying the universal truisms in the constitution is absurd.

I agree, and no where in my post did I deny that or denied any statement that support not letting countries "the possibility of voluntarily choosing to allow protection of unalienable rights.".

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The world was actually seeing the prosperity available to all individuals in a free society where unalienable rights were protected. The US was an example to all nations who could choose it voluntarily. But, when the Carnegie, Ford, and Rockefeller Foundations along with British Empire Agent Colenol House shifted our foreign and domestic policies to being anti-freedom and assassinations of all those who preached freedom then things took a dive downward.

I agree with the fact that the "north-American experiment" was a beacon of hope and light for the entire humanity and through some of the policies that were being practiced in north America everyone around the world, could see as a fact the fruits and undeniable advantages of a free society with a capitalist economic system.
But in the same clause you say that suddenly all the bankers-oligarchs came into the scene and ruined the party - Well, no. It was the imperfect and bastardized "free-market" system in the US that gave rise to those oligarchs and allowed them to gather insane amounts of unjustifiable wealth, resources and power. The system allowed them to gather so much power that these same families of oligarchs still plague our world till this very day.
Personally I think that some parts of the world didn't experience a true free-market economic system since the transition from the stone-age to the bronze-age, and especially not in US during the late 1800's, but that argument can be expanded on somewhere else.

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Are you proposing the idea that voluntary adherance to unalienable rights on a universal level be attacked by force or with 'soft power'? Because that is what the CFR has been doing up until now with the 1953 coup in Iran, the coup in Guatemala, the assassinations in Vietnam, the propping up of Stalin, Mao, Hussein, Sha, etc. The assassinations of Malcolm X, MLK, JFK, RFK, Wellstone, etc. I personally am against denying the inalienable rights of human beings using the premise that allowing people inalienable rights is "disasterous".

You are saying that you want to protect sovereign countries, but you are saying you would deny them the possibility of voluntarily choosing to allow protection of analienable rights. Again, this was the justification for 70+ years of CIA interventions, assassinations, and the genocide of over 6 million according to former directors of CIA operations.

How is questioning a single world currency of gold and globalist aspirations of "free-trade" as economic models that "we have nothing to fear from" (Paul's words from the video) are on par with denying unalienable rights of human beings anywhere around the world?
Are you so emotionally invested in Paul that any criticism raised on his policies are immediately transformed into ideas that support oligarchical, especially of the neo-con kind, aspirations of war, violence and the denying of the most basic freedoms for people ?
Do you agree with the sentiments expressed in the video the OP has posted?
Do you think, for example, that people in Africa, say in Zambia or Congo, should switch to a gold backed currency adjusted on an international level?
Do you think that abolishing all economic protectionism laws and tariffs around the world, in order to bring forth the "free-trade" utopia, is something that can benefit sovereign countries?
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2012, 03:08:13 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hue_KeJ97l0
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2012, 04:37:03 PM »

It appears Webster Tarpley was actually the one who first started raising concerns about Paul's stated position on "globalism":

     http://tarpley.net/audio/getfile.php?f=20120307-WGT_on_Rense.mp3

Now, I don't agree with Tarpley on everything, and I, of course, realize there are more than few trolls out there who are always looking for clever ways to provoke infighting. Nevertheless, in view of all that Tarpley has done over the years to expose and discredit both Bush and Obama, I think Ron Paul enthusiasts (no matter how well-intentioned) only fuel the very fire they presume to fight when they resort almost immediately to name-calling the moment anyone echos Tarpley's concerns about the substance of that speech, because the average voter simply cannot be expected to already know that the term "globalism" means two different things, depending on who's advocating it.

Perhaps a separate thread should therefore be created -- beginning with a full transcript of the speech itself, followed by calm, rational explanations as to why Tarpley's interpretation of that speech is incorrect.

That's what I recommend, because in my experience, an issue like this is the political equivalent of a cancer: the more you ignore it, the more it grows.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2012, 10:41:31 PM »

I agree, and no where in my post did I deny that or denied any statement that support not letting countries "the possibility of voluntarily choosing to allow protection of unalienable rights.".

When you say that you are against countries voluntarily agreeing to a universal set of unalienable rights protection for their individuals.

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I agree with the fact that the "north-American experiment" was a beacon of hope and light for the entire humanity and through some of the policies that were being practiced in north America everyone around the world, could see as a fact the fruits and undeniable advantages of a free society with a capitalist economic system.

That was my only point and could be what Ron Paul's point was as well.

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But in the same clause you say that suddenly all the bankers-oligarchs came into the scene and ruined the party

This is a matter of historical record, there is hardly any possibility of denying this truth.

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- Well, no.

I guess you will still try to deny it.

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It was the imperfect and bastardized "free-market" system in the US that gave rise to those oligarchs and allowed them to gather insane amounts of unjustifiable wealth, resources and power.

That is a distortion of reality. They had all of the power before the "experiment" as some have called it.

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The system allowed them to gather so much power that these same families of oligarchs still plague our world till this very day.

Again, a huge distortion of reality. Please read the following letter from 1919 to understand how the offshore bankster elite infiltrated America via deception, theft, extortion, conspiracy, and racketeering. This was not an inherent flaw in "free market capitalism" as we are being led to believe. This is a fricking straight up bank robbery in broad daylight with a trail of fingerprints 100 years long!

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I was highly honored by your personal letter of May 24 last (written same week as Paris meeting), and wish to thank you for the cordial expression of approval of my work which it contained. You were very good enough to require from me a frank and confidential account of the campaign conducted under my direction in this country, together with such suggestions as might further help to lead it speedily to a successful conclusion. As the campaign had been under way for a considerable time before you were called to direct the destinies of England, I shall review it from its commencement, and, emboldened by your sanction, I shall freely make whatever suggestions seem to me good.

From the moment of my arrival here, it was evident to me that such an Anglo-American alliance as would ultimately result in the peaceful return of the American Colonies to the dominion of the Crown could be brought about only with the consent of the dominant group of the controlling clans.

For those who can afford the universities, we are, as I have already mentioned, plentifully supplying British-born or trained professors, lecturers, and presidents. A Canadian-born admiral now heads the United States Naval College. We are arranging for a greater interchange of professors between the two countries. The student interchange could be much improved. The Rhodes scholarships are inadequate in number. I would suggest that the Carnegie trustees be approached to extend to American students the benefits of the scheme by which Scottish students are subsidised at Scottish universities. If necessary, a grant from the treasury should be obtained for this excellent work, which however, should remain for the present -- at least outwardly -- private enterprise...

Through the Red Cross, the Scout movement, the YMC, the church, and other humane, religious, and quasi-religious organizations, we have created an atmosphere of international effort which strengthens the idea of unity of the English-speaking world. In the co-ordination of this work, Mr. Raymond Fosdick, formerly of the Rockefeller Foundation, has been especially conspicuous. I would also like to mention President Nicholas Murray Butler of Columbia University, who has eloquently advocated this form of internationalism and carefully emphasize its distinction from the false internationalism which is infecting the proletariat.

The Overseas Club in this country now contains nearly hundred thousand pledged members with a Journal of their own. Our thanks are due to Lord St. George's, St. David's, St. Andrew's, and Pilgrim Clubs, together with the Daughters of the Empire. the Prince of Wales Fund, and the other association and guilds connected with our multitudinous war charities enable us to pervade all sections and classes of the country, and provide us with a force of empire builders whose loyalty an services are both invaluable to us and highly appreciated by the native colonists.

The censorship, together with our monopoly of cables and our passport control of passengers, enables us to hold all American newspapers as isolated from the non-American world as if they had been in another planet instead of in another hemisphere The realization of this by the Associated Press and the other universal news gatherers -- except Hearst -- was most helpful in bringing only our point of view to the papers they served.

British-born editors and reporters now create imperial sentiment in most American newspapers. As their identity and origins are not usually known, they can talk and write for us as Americans to Americans.

Below that level, imperial unity cannot be securely established upon the debris of the Constitution here. We will not passively permit this unity to be now menaced when it is all but perfect. Has not America, while still maintaining an outward show of independence, yielded to our wishes in the Panama Canal tolls and Canadian fisheries' disputes, as was fitting and filial? Was not America happy to fight our war in Europe? Was not America, like Canada, willing not only to pay her own war expenses but also to loan us money for ours? Was not America, like Canada, content to seek nothing in return for her war duty, so long as the motherland was completely indemnified in Egypt and the rest of Africa, in Persia, Mesopotamia, Syria, and elsewhere? Was not America as proud to be honored by knighthood and lesser titulary distinctions, as Canada was, or, rather, more proud?

Has not President Wilson cancelled the big Navy program and dutifully conceded to us the command of the seas, confident that we shall defend America against all future foes that may threaten our supremacy, just as we defended America and Canada against Germany? In matters lingual, legal and financial, fiscal, commercial, social evangelical, administrative, martial, naval, educational -- are not in all these matters the established relations of America to England, in kind -- if not precisely in degree -- identical with the relations of the other colonies and dominions to the Crown? Indeed, I might justifiably sustain the thesis that so-distant American Republic is now more happily and more closely bound to the Empire than are, for example, the ungrateful and insolent colonies which lately were the Boer Republics.

As long as President Wilson, with our Canadian-born Secretary of the Interior, Mr. Franklin Lane, with our Scotch-born Secretary of Labor, Mr. W. B. Wilson, and with our London-born Mr. Samuel Gompers, -- now controls the administration, imperial unity will daily grow more intimate and more perfect. But I regret to inform you that our committee on American Elections has reported (Appendix 38) that no matter how lavishly we finance the next election, the Wilson administration will pass, and with it, perchance, that absolute administrative control over the Legislature, which has meant so much to us. Willful, wanton, and wicked men will unite in the next election with labor and those industrialists whose profit-patriotism ratio has been allowed to fall below the threshold of loyalty to imperial unity. These combined forces of disorder will seek to elect a legislature which will attempt to make the administration responsible to it, instead of to us and our auxiliaries, and will strive to rend the bonds which bind this colony to the motherland, for the sole, selfish, and seditious purpose of erecting a separate, national, economic unit independent of us -- and even perhaps, competing with us. We must, therefore, hasten to remove from this legislature, with the aid of our supporters here, such of its powers as could be used against imperial unity.

J. P. MORGAN & CO. ARE BRITISH AGENTS


In the financial world the Anglo-American alliance is a well-established fact. And as the consortium for China, and the security company for Mexico show, our brokers and their aids have become the unchallenged financiers of the world. We have been particularly fortunate in our fiscal agents here, Messrs Pierpont Morgan & Company. The commissions they charged, both as our brokers and purchasing agents no doubt were high enough to warrant their summary treatment at the hands of Mr. Balfour during his visit here. But they advantageously placed our many bond issues and every American holder of these bonds having now a stake in the Empire is a defender of its integrity and a potential supporter of its extension over here. Their services in putting this country into the war have not been altruistic, but they were nonetheless effective. They contributed liberally to our Americanization campaign. They ousted Miss Boardman, and through Messrs. Taft and H. P. Davidson they nationalized and directed the American Red Cross, and then internationalized it under the direction of Mr. H. P. Davison Through Mr. Thomas Lamont they purchased Harpers Magazine and the New York Evening Post. Through advertisers they control, they have exerted widespread influence on newspaper policy. Messrs. Lamont and Davidson gave you valuable aid at the peace conference. They loaned $200,000,000 to Japan that our ally might build a fleet to compete with America on the Pacific carrying routes. Their attempts to retain for us control of the international mercantile marine are well known to you. And I would he amiss if I did not remind you that they relieved the government of considerable embarrassment by pensioning worthily the widow of our late Ambassador Sir Cecil Spring-Rice, at a time when the antagonism of Lord Northcliffe made it impossible for us officially to do so. As the greater part of their capital is invested within the Empire. the Government of His Majesty will doubtless have opportunity to appreciate the value of the services of Messrs. Pierpont Morgan & Company.

BRITISH DUPLICITY

Through our fiscal agents here and our aids who act for other Allied countries, as Sir Clifford Sifton acts for Rumania, we have become the world's purchasers. Moreover, the war has made us the custodian of the greater part of the world's raw materials. With moneys lent to us by the American Government for war purposes, we have. acting through quasi-American companies by the aid of Mr. Connor Guthrie, obtained control of the large oil fields in California and in Costa Rica. And through the nationalization of His Majesty's Government of the Cowdray, Pearson, and Royal Dutch Shell interests in Mexico, we having become masters of the Mexican, Canadian, Rumanian, Armenian. Persian, and lessor oil fields, now largely control the oil fields of the world and thereby the world's transportation and industry. We have not yet succeeded in controlling the pipe lines owned by the Standard Oil Company, and its subsidiaries, for those companies have long been established. But, although uncontrolled companies may continue to get their oil to the seaboard, the proposed system of preferential treatment at our universal oiling stations for ships supplied at the port of departures with British oil (Appendix 37) will prevent the use of any oil but ours on the high seas.

This control would enable us to exert such pressure as would make American industrial interests amenable to His Majesty's pleasure. But it would be unwise to make disciplinary use of our fuel power before we secure remission of our $4,000,000,000 debt. Otherwise, the American industrial interests might retaliate by forcing the United States Government to exact from us the agreed interest, to maintain tariff barriers against our merchandise, and to withdraw support from the rate of exchange. Which make our labor and resources for years pay tribute to this country an unnatural, unfilial, and unthinkable proceeding. We are conducting a vigorous campaign for the cancellation of this war debt, on the grounds (a) that we fought America's fight for her for 2 years, while she was prospering in cowardice and (b) that at least the material burdens should be distributed justly, if the world is to be made safe for democracy. . Synchronously with this agitation for the remission of our debt, we are agitating for further loans of American money to rebuild our markets in Europe. There is no possibility of these two agitations endangering their mutual success, for we have repeatedly proved beyond question that the American mind cannot synchronously fix and correlate facts, with two cognate items on the statements to be judged each on its merits. Hence, we are able in a cloud of candor to state the merit of the loan -- viz, that unless the money be lent to us we cannot pay the interest on it. in these agitations we are receiving valuable, if not wholly disinterested, aid from our financial auxiliaries and fiscal agents (J. P. Morgan & Co.)

In Mexico our friends made a tentative adventure with the gallant Blanquet, but it miscarried, perhaps owing to a slight misunderstanding between the bond interests and the industrial interests. However, we are quietly continuing our work in Mexico until the United States Government shall be put in a position to take it over. An American war with Mexico would cost us nothing; it would satisfy certain American industrial interests; it would guarantee out title to the Mexican oil fields; it would humble, by impoverishing, this purse-proud people; it would give us an opportunity to show the American that he isolated in the world needs our protection against our ally, Japan; and while America was busy warring we would enjoy a clear field in the European, African, and Asiatic trade, together with the monopoly of the markets of a South America hostile to the Monroe Doctrinaries of democracy. For these reasons our press is fully reporting Mexican outrages, but a strange apathy seems to have fallen on the people, an apathy from which only border raids or special atrocities will arouse them. . .

LEAGUE OF NATIONS

In other words, we must quickly act to transfer its dangerous sovereignty from this colony to the custody of the Crown. We must, in short, now bring America with in the Empire. God helping us, we can do no other. The first visible step in this direction has been taken; President Wilson has accepted and sponsored the plan for a League of Nations which we prepared for him. We have wrapped this plan in the peace treaty so that the world must accept from us the League or a continuance of the war. The League is in substance the Empire with America admitted on the same basis as our other colonies.

The effectiveness of the League will depend upon the power with which it can be endowed, and that will hinge upon the skill with which the cardinal functions of the American legislature are transferred to the executive Council of the League. Any abrupt change may startle the ignorant American masses and rouse them to action against it. And us. Our best policy, therefore, would be to appoint President Wilson first president of the League. When the fourteen points seemed to our Government twice seven daily sins, I analyzed with care his diverse and numerous notes and discourses and divided them into their two parts: One, the Wilson creed, "I believe in open covenants and in the freedom of the seas," etc.; and two, the Wilson commandments, "Might shall not prevail over right, the strong shall not oppress the weak," etc. From the "too proud to fight" and "he kept us out of war" episodes, I ventured to deduce (September 29, 1918, Appendix 36) that he would at the appropriate moment oblige us by transferring the "not" from his commandments to his creed without as much as a "may I not," and in such a way that his people will be none the wiser.

The plain people of this country are inveterate and incurable hero worshipers. They are, however, sincere in sentiment; and for a hero to become established in the public shrine, he must first succeed in getting his name associated with the phrases and slogans that seem to reflect the undefined aspirations of the average inhabitant. When this has been accomplished the allegiance is at once transferred from the sentiment to the sentimentalist, from the ideal to the maker of the longed-for phrase. No one understands this peculiarity of the native behavior better than Mr. Wilson, which accounts largely for his exceptional usefulness to us. He knows that Americans will not scrutinise any performance too closely, provided their faith in the performer has been adequately established. Mr. Wilson has since made the transfer amid American acclamation. In the same way he will now be able to satisfy them that far from surrendering their independence to the League they are actually extending their sovereignty by it. He alone can satisfy them on this. He alone can father an anti-Bolshevik act which judicially interpreted -- will enable appropriate punitive measures to be applied to any American who may be unwise enough to assert that America must again declare her independence. And he alone, therefore, is qualified to act for us as first president of the League.

I confess I am a little uneasy lest in the exigencies of diplomatic combat, Mr. Wilson may not have found the joy he anticipated from matching his wits against the best brains of Europe. He is easily slighted and remarkably vindictive. It is the highest degree desirable that any traces of resentment his mind may be harboring against us should be radically removed before he returns. I would, therefore, suggest that the work of adulation planned in Appendix 32 should be instructed to consult the inventories I have prepared (appendixes 45-83), which show that he is now surfeited with diamond stomachers, brooches, and bracelets, Gobelin tapestries, mosaics, and vases, gold caskets, and plates.

The program we arranged for his visit to England (appendix 33) including a royal reception at Buckingham Palace, with which the President was well pleased. The fruitful visit of the President to the King should be returned as early as possible. I would suggest that as soon as the President is settled once more in the White House, the visit should be returned by His Royal Highness, the Prince of Wales, who would be an admirable representative of His Royal Sire, and would satisfy President Wilson's sense of fitness. It is perhaps unfortunate that there is not a Presidential daughter of the Prince's age, for such a union would have greatly advanced our purpose not only with the American people, but also with a President who feels that lese majeste should be punishable with 20 years' imprisonment, and who acts as if he considered his son-in-law, Mr. McAdoo, as his heir apparent.

PRESIDENT WILSON'S PECULIARITIES

Too great attention cannot be given at this time to the Presidential peculiarities, for his devotion to our purpose will depend upon our ability to pander to them. I would suggest that the new ambassador to Washington should be chosen only after the most careful thought. He should not be too clever, lest Mr. Wilson shun him. He should be able to evince hilarity at the most venerable jest, no matter how often he may have to suffer it. This qualification is vitally important whether Mr. Wilson's "humor" is merely assumed to perpetuate the "human" tradition established for Presidents by Lincoln, or whether it is studied descent from Jovelike isolation to Jovelike jest. The ambassador should be a Wilson worshiper. I enclose (appendix 34) resumes of the methods of worship practiced by various members of his inner circle. The appointee would do well to familiarize himself with them, and my services are at his disposal should be desire more extended information on the method of worship he selects. He should of course be a commoner, that we may not lose democratic favor -- preferably a professor -- and sufficiently subsidized to be able to entertain regally. If a list were submitted to Mr. Wilson he might be prepared to indicate all of whom he did not approve, and the one against whom he expressed no prejudices should be appointed. The pressing need of our embassy at Washington is not so much an ambassador as a gentleman in waiting to the President.

I would suggest that his powers as President of the League of Nations be left undefined for the present. He may be trusted to assume what power he can and to use it in the interests of the Crown.

A grant of a privy purse of $100,000,000 would prove most acceptable to him and would be useful for private espionage, private wars, Siberian railroads, etc. His appointment should be for life, and you might definitely promise him that any instructions he may care to convey concerning his successor will receive the most careful attention of His Majesty's Government.

Nevertheless, it would be well quickly to reinforce him in the presidency of the League of Nations by staging the first session of the League in Washington. This will convince these simple people that they are the League and its power resides in them. Their pride in this power should be exalted. Perhaps you, yourself, might condescend to visit this country. Or, if that be impracticable, you might send such noble statesmen, and stately noblemen, as will suffice to make of the first League session a spectacle of unsurpassed brilliance. Indeed, it would be well to commence at an early date a series of spectacles by which the mob may be diverted from any attempt to think too much of matters beyond their province. The success of the Joffre, Vivianti Balfour, and other missions in amusing the people while the country was quietly put into the war shows that similar missions would likewise amuse the people -- while the country was quietly put into the League. I would suggest that missions of thanksgiving to America be organized, and that His Majesty the King of the Belgians, Cardinal Mercier, Field Marshal Foch, Venizelos, and an eminent Italian or two be sent seriatim.

PROPAGANDA

While awaiting these diversions for the vulgar, we are incessantly instructing them in the wonders of the League. Its praises are thundered by our press, decreed by our college presidents, and professed by our professors. Our authors, writers. and lecturers are analyzing its selected virtues for whomsoever will read or listen. As will be seen from appendix 39, circulars issued by the League of Nations committee, we have enlisted 8,000 pulpiteers or propagandists for the League. We have organized international and national synods, consistories, committees, conferences, convocations, conventions, councils, congresses, and assemblies, as well as their State, municipal, and district equivalents, to herald the birth of the League as the dawn of universal peace. A special Sunday will be observed as League Sunday in all churches. In this connection, may I remark that the appointment of Mr. Raymond Fosdick to the Secretariat of the League, has pleased not only the Rockefeller interests but also the less disingenuous uplifters, for it stamps the League as an endowed organization for promiscuous uplifting, under the triple crown of religion, respectability, and finance. Agriculturalists, bankers, brokers, chartered accounts, chemists, and all other functional groups capable of exerting organized professional, business, financial, or social pressure are meeting to endorse the League in the name of peace, progress, and prosperity.

The World's Peace Foundation has issued for us a series of League of Nations pamphlets, which, with our other literature, tax the mails to the limit of their capacity. Our film concerns are preparing an epoch-making picture entitled "The League of Nations." In brief, our entire system of thought control is working ceaselessly, tirelessly, ruthlessly, to insure the adoption of the League. And it will be adopted, for business wants peace, the righteous cannot resist a covenant, and the politicians, after shadow-boxing for patronage purposes, will yield valiantly lest the fate of the wanton and wilful pursue them.

By these means we hope smoothly to overcome all effective opposition on the on the part of our colony America to entering the League -- that is, the Empire. As soon as the League is functioning properly, His Majesty in response to loyal and repeated solicitation, might graciously be pleased to consent to restore to this people their ancient right to petition at the foot of the throne; to confer the ancient rank and style of governor general upon our Ambassador, that this colony may enjoy a status inferior to no other colony's; to establish the primacy of the Metropolitan See, with the Right Reverend Dr. Manning as first primate; to appoint Mr. Elihu Root lord chief justice of the colony, and to nominate Messrs. W. H. Taft, Nicholas Murray Butler, J. P. Morgan, Elizabeth Marbury, Adolph Ochs, and Thomas Lamont to the colonial privity council; as a special mark of royal and imperial condescension, to rename the Federal Capital of the Colony Georgetown, and lest section jealousy be thereby excited, to grant royal charters to the cities of Boston and Chicago entitling them thereafter to style themselves, respectively, Kingston and Guelf -- concisely to bestow in time and in measure such tokens of the bounty of the Crown as the fealty of the colonists merit.

BRITISH-AMERICAN UNION URGED

Since that memorable day, September 19, 1877, on which the late Cecil Rhodes devised by will a fund "to and for the establishment, promotion, and development of a secret society -- the true aim of which and object of which shall be the extension of British rule throughout the world, and especially the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire" -- the energy and intelligence of England has not been spent in vain. It would perhaps be presumptuous of me to refer here to the admirable services rendered not only by LORD NORTHCLlFFE (the probable author of the report) and the corps of 12,000 trained workers whom he introduced here during the year as purchasing agents under the direction of Sir Campbell Stuart, but also the right Honorable Arthur J. Balfour, and by Lord Reading. But my report would be incomplete without a reference to Mr. Andrew Carnegie, of Skibo Castle, Sutherlandshire, and New York City. He unobtrusively assumed the mantle of the late Mr. Cecil Rhodes. Through the Carnegie Foundation, he obtained such control over the professorate of this country that even President Wilson was a suppliant for a Carnegie pension before this people and allied gratitude placed him beyond prospective want.

The Carnegie League to Enforce Peace and its affiliate League of Small Nations are even now leading the van in our fight. In the North American Review, June 1893, Mr. Carnegie wrote: "Let men say what they will, I say that as surely as the sun in the heavens once shone upon Britain and America united, so surely is it one morning to rise, to shine upon, to greet again, the reunited state -- the British-American union."

The object of Cecil Rhodes is almost attained. The day prophesied by Mr. Carnegie is near at hand, the day when the American Colonies will be in all things one with the motherland, one and indivisible. Only the last great battle remains to be. fought -- the battle to compel her acceptance of the terms of the League of Nations."


Colonel House

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It is simply impossible to believe there is not a conspiracy after watching this
Edward Griffin interviews 83 year old Norman Dodd in the year 1982 in a rare interview that exposes the New World Orders infiltration by large corporations that are merging the USA into a world government(New World Order). He explains the infiltration of banking and the infiltration of the public education system. Dodd served as an investigator for Congressman Reece's Special Committee on Tax Exempt Foundations (commonly referred to as the Reece Committee).

Here are some revelations from the video:

Norman Dodd discovered that the Carnegie Endowment, the Ford Foundation, and the Rockefeller Foundation were all conspiring to change society in the United States of America by unconstitutional means. They felt that their agenda was too important to use legal and constitutional means and that they had to use illegal and treasonous means in order to usurp the pillars of society throughout America. He explains all of the details (with the help of Griffin) in such a compelling way that any 10 year old can understand it. And he makes his case in under one hour. I humbly request everyone watch this video...often.

Specific highlights...

Minutes from the Carnegie Endowment Annual Meeting in 1908: The question was brought up: "Is there any better way to affect change on society than war?" The Carnegie Endowment Directors agreed that there was none.

Minutes from the Carnegie Endowment Annual Meeting in 1909: Now that we know war is the best way to affect change illegally upon society, how can we engage the population of the United States into a war? The answer was to control the State Department. From that point on and until the engagement in WWI, the Carnegie Endowment wrestled control of all State Department activities and communications.

Minutes of the Carnegie Endowment Annual Meeting after WWI: Now that we have changed society via the war, we need to make sure that the people never return to their pre-WWI habits and individual identities. The best way to do this (they agreed) was to control the educational systems. They agreed that Rockefeller Foundation would be in control of domestic education and the Carnegie Endowment would be accountable for all foreign education and continued control over the US State Department.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCBfmIcHM
Mirror 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8cC21jB9EE
Mirror 2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7373201783240489827
Another revelation from the video is that the president of the Carnegie Endowment admitted to Dodd off the record that the agenda was to combine the US and the USSR into one "collective" society. The idea of a "collective" society is what cause Ayn Rand's writing of "The Fountainhead" IMO. The "collective" is the hive mind, it is a cybernetic society. It is 100% contrary to the ideas of free man, of the idea that a human being has value. This elite ideal often is exposed in various movies like the Fountainhead, Network, and others.

Here is a quote from the movie "Network" (this is the essence of the movie Network. The movie was not about a bunch of people yelling "I'm mad as hell", it was about the continued agenda of the most powerful tyrannical organizations conditioning all of us into one "collective" which they will control. The word "collective" is really a pseudonym for slavery.):

JENSEN (CEO of the Network parent company which Howard Beale stopped from selling a controlling share to Arab interests via his television evangelical show - similar to the ports deal that was going to UAE 5 years ago): I'd like to try to sell something to you. Valhalla, Mr Beale. Please, sit down. You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr Beale, and I won't have it. Is that clear? You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions out of this country and now they must put it back. It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity. It is ecological balance. You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no Third Worids. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems. One vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petrol dollars, electro dollars, multi dollars. Reichsmarks, rins, roubles, pounds and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic...and subatomic and galactic structure of things today. And you have meddled with the primal forces of nature. And you will atone. Am I getting through to you, Mr Beale? You get up on your little 19-inch screen...and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T...and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of the worid today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state? Karl Marx? They get out linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, and compute price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments like us. We no longer live in a worid of nations and ideologies, Mr Beale. The worid is a college of corporations... inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The worid is a business, Mr Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr Beale, to see that... perfect worid...in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit. In which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquillised, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr Beale, to preach this evangel.
        
BEALE: Why me?
      
JENSEN: Because you're on television, dummy. 60 million people watch you every night of the week, Monday through Friday.
        
BEALE: I have seen the face of God.
                  
JENSEN: You just might be right, Mr Beale.
                  
That evening Beale went on air to preach Jensen's corporate cosmology.

BEALE: Last night I got up here and asked you to stand up and fight for your heritage, and you did, and it was beautiful. Six million telegrams were sent to the White House. The Arab takeover of CCA has been stopped. The people spoke, the people won. It was a radiant eruption of democracy. But I think that was it, fellas. That sort of thing is not likely to happen again, because at the bottom of all our terrified souls we know that democracy is a dying giant, a sick, sick, dying, decayed political concept writhing in its final pain. I don't mean that the United States is finished as a worid power. It is the richest, most powerful, most advanced country in the worid. I don't mean the communists are gonna take over. They're deader than we are. What is finished is the idea that this great country is dedicated to the freedom and flourishing of every individual in it. It's the individual that's finished. It's the single, solitary human being that's finished. It's every single one of you out there that's finished. Because this is no longer a nation of independent individuals. It's a nation of some 200-odd million transistorised, deodorised, whiter-than-white, steel-belted bodies, totally unnecessary as human beings and as replaceable as piston rods. Well, the time has come to say is dehumanisation such a bad word? Whether it's good or bad, that's what is so. The whole worid is becoming humanoid - creatures that look human but aren"t. The whole worid. We're the most advanced country so we'll get there first. The whole worid's people are becoming mass-produced, programmed, numbered

From exactly 3 years ago:
American Deception uncovered - the Reese Committee, G. Edward Griffin
Today, G. Edward Griffin discussed the TRUTH behind the large tax exempt foundations and trusts with Alex. He spelled out the globalist agenda in no uncertain terms, as discovered by Norman Dodd and the Reese Committee

Here is a link to Paul Joseph Watson's recent article on the Reese Committee...

Here is Charlotte's Iserbyt's site... where you will find the Reese Committee Report documents...

http://www.americandeception.com/index.php?page=searchkeyword

This story is one of the most telling and compelling accounts, with corroborating evidence, of a conspiracy by large tax-exempt foundations, trusts, and endowments, to introduce collectivism, in the form of a uniquely Americanized socialistic system, that would dovetail with the Soviet system…

The idea behind the whole thing was to put complete monopolistic control of the world, into the hands of but few families.

Here is the video of an interview done back in 1982 by G. Edward Griffin, with the chief investigator for the Reese Commission, Representative Norman Dodd.

Dodd lays it all out…

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7373201783240489827&hl=en

JTCoyoté

"The Constitution evidently contemplated no
taxes as direct taxes, but only as Congress
could lay in proportion to the census."

~U.S. Supreme Court;
Hylton v. United States (1796)



More on Foundations and what they really use their money for:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showforum=85


Here's an example of how Foundations fund certain projects which are beneficial to the Elite: (A very recent example to do with Hate Speech)
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=7526

(NOTE: The foundations mentioned in The American Spectator article. Then note the GEORGE SOROS connection once again!)



Please read all of that and watch the videos to understand what is really going on.

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Personally I think that some parts of the world didn't experience a true free-market economic system since the transition from the stone-age to the bronze-age, and especially not in US during the late 1800's, but that argument can be expanded on somewhere else.


Agreed, but even the one used in North America was not the cause of the insanity we see today, the cause fo the cancer to the Republic is a straight up cancer: THe CFR/Bilderberg/Committee of 300.

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How is questioning a single world currency of gold

Ron Paul mentions commodity based (in other words, not just gold based which he has acknowledged could be manipulated).

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and globalist aspirations

I think the term 'globalist aspirations is misleading.

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of "free-trade" as economic models that "we have nothing to fear from" (Paul's words from the video) are on par with denying unalienable rights of human beings anywhere around the world?

Well, if you say that they are disasterous even if they are voluntarily agreed to as was done by at least 10 CIA-assassinated sovereign country leaders like Mosedeq, Allende, etc.then you are promoting the idea that voluntary acceptance to a niversal set of unalienable rights is not tolerated. He CIA used the same logic when declaring that MLK was a threat because he had a global vision, same with John Lennon (read the lyrics to "IMAGINE"), same wit JFK and RFK.

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Are you so emotionally invested in Paul that any criticism raised on his policies are immediately transformed into ideas that support oligarchical, especially of the neo-con kind, aspirations of war, violence and the denying of the most basic freedoms for people ?

Are you so emotionally invested in fitting round pegs into square holes that when you are exposed as doing so, you resort to personally attacking the messenger who simply points out "you are putting a round peg in a square hole dude"

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Do you agree with the sentiments expressed in the video the OP has posted?

I agree that the simple idea of "a globally voluntarily accepted set of unalienable rights and a voluntary acceptance of an exchange system" is not what is causing oppression in the world. I also wholeheartedly agree that Dr. Paul points out exactly what is causing the problems, mainly...

money managers, manipulators orchestrating a man-made business cycle with rampant price inflation

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Do you think, for example, that people in Africa, say in Zambia or Congo, should switch to a gold backed currency adjusted on an international level?

As Dr. Paul clearly said, it is up to them, they are sovereign countries who can make up their own monetary systems. Do you feel they should be prevented from deciding if they wish to join a COMMODITY based monetary system. Wouldn't your preventing them from making these decisions be a true threat to their sovereignty?

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Do you think that abolishing all economic protectionism laws and tariffs around the world,

WTF are ou talking about? who the hell wants to do this, Ron Paul is consistently supportive of sovereign countries' rights to impose tariffs and sovereign/local laws. You must be confused.
 
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in order to bring forth the "free-trade" utopia, is something that can benefit sovereign countries?

You are confusing what NAFTA supporters call free trade and actual free trade. Actual free trade allows any sovereign country to decide their trade, perverted free trade like in the so called free trade in NAFTA usurps all joining countries' power in making these decisions, it is done in an elite round table session with no sunshine.
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