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« on: February 15, 2012, 03:12:41 PM »

on ever again the guy has shown his true colors.

Megadeth’s Dave Mustaine endorses Rick Santorum for President

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/megadeth-dave-mustaine-endorses-rick-santorum-president-article-1.1023136#ixzz1mUVj95K9
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 03:38:56 PM »

I hope Alex doesn't have Dave Mustaine on ever again

If I were in Alex's position, I'd speak to Mustaine privately before deciding whether or not to have him on again, because it's possible that he is simply misguided.

On a different note, although I have no idea if he'd even consider coming on Alex's show, if there's one musician I'd love to hear Alex interview, it's lyricist and drummer Neil Peart:

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=2665.msg1329435#msg1329435

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJL7EO6yl58

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 03:45:14 PM »

Too many drugs for Mustaine.  It fried his brain.  Talk about gullible!
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 04:01:53 PM »

I was going to start a thread about this.  Dave is a total utter moron.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 04:21:17 PM »

If I were in Alex's position, I'd speak to Mustaine privately before deciding whether or not to have him on again, because it's possible that he is simply misguided.

On a different note, although I have no idea if he'd even consider coming on Alex's show, if there's one musician I'd love to hear Alex interview, it's lyricist and drummer Neil Peart:

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=2665.msg1329435#msg1329435

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJL7EO6yl58

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWyABiUpihs
I don't know about his world view but his drumming is simply the best..
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2012, 04:41:55 PM »

...On a different note, although I have no idea if he'd even consider coming on Alex's show, if there's one musician I'd love to hear Alex interview, it's lyricist and drummer Neil Peart:

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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2012, 04:52:52 PM »

I don't know about his world view

"Although Peart is sometimes regarded as a 'conservative' and 'Republican' rock star, he, in 2005, described himself as a 'left-leaning libertarian', and is often cited as a libertarian celebrity. In July 2011 Peart reiterated those views, calling himself a 'bleeding-heart libertarian.'" -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Peart#Political_views

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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2012, 04:54:26 PM »

The Mustaine story is on yahoo as well.  It would appear this story has legs.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/megadeth-singer-endorses-rick-santorum-calls-newt-gingrich-164220697.html

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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2012, 05:56:04 PM »

I hope this is incorrect. I fell to my knees and wept for liberty when I read this. I looked up to Dave. I was happy to promote his awesome music and message....now...I don't know. One name comes to mind: JUDAS.
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2012, 07:16:34 PM »


I agree with Geo.  He actually should come onto AJ's show again, but it would be a good idea to have a private conversation beforehand.

Dave is not a "moron", nor is he burned-out from drugs.  He's simply a guy that, while awake to certain realities, is misguided on a couple issues and this is preventing him from seeing the big picture.

By the way, for all those that think you have a hectic work schedule and it is all you can do to get in a little reading time to keep current with events and whatnot, Dave's schedule would make you cry... as would the schedule of anyone at his level.  Those who've been in the music business beyond playing in/near-town gigs on the weekends understand this... most others don't.  Just imagine Ron Paul's campaign schedule and pretty much keep that up constantly for 30 years.  In your spare time, you're practicing your craft... in this case, guitar.  I'm actually impressed that he's as awake as he is.

The unfortunate part is the fact that a portion of his fans will be influenced by his remarks alone, despite the wealth of knowledge available at their fingertips.

He just needs a good stern talking to Cheesy Wink
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2012, 07:43:40 PM »


Dave is not a "moron", nor is he burned-out from drugs.  He's simply a guy that, while awake to certain realities, is misguided on a couple issues and this is preventing him from seeing the big picture.



I'm sorry but supporting Santorum means you are a moron.  If you support Santorum then you can't possibly be even nearly "awake."  You may have talked a good game maybe to tap into an audience for sales but who you support is a litmus test and he has failed hardcore.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2012, 07:56:27 PM »


I'm sorry but supporting Santorum means you are a moron.  If you support Santorum then you can't possibly be even nearly "awake."  You may have talked a good game maybe to tap into an audience for sales but who you support is a litmus test and he has failed hardcore.


I consider the way we react to certain information a litmus test as well.  Tell me, which is more constructive... dismissing a well-known and talented musician due to some comments that are merely evident of a lack of information (no, he's not illuminati as some other post said), or maybe writing him a thoughtful and informative letter explaining all the angles to which you are privy and perhaps he is not?

I'm not judging, just putting it out there.  If some comments relaying a perspective that is in desperate need of more information is enough for you to completely discount someone's capacity to learn, then I'd have to guess that you also find it pointless to continue to educate the masses about liberty and Paul's message.  It's easy to knock a celebrity for their comments, but somehow taking the time to have an intense and informative conversation with a misguided friend or relative is somehow going to have a more significant impact on the outcome of this election?  Some would call that ludicrous considering the wider audience of the celebrity.

Let's wait and see if AJ can have an impact on that perspective (or even some letters from other infowarriors) before we reduce him to a mere clown for entertainment void of political value.
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 08:36:04 PM »

I consider the way we react to certain information a litmus test as well.  Tell me, which is more constructive... dismissing a well-known and talented musician due to some comments that are merely evident of a lack of information (no, he's not illuminati as some other post said), or maybe writing him a thoughtful and informative letter explaining all the angles to which you are privy and perhaps he is not?


Dude it's Rick Santorum lol. 

Anyway the only reason you or anyone on this forum is a Dave Mustain fan is because Alex plays his music had him on and thus calls him a friend of the show.  Kelly Clarkson hasn't been on Alex Jones but she came out for Ron Paul and said she liked his ideas.  That is brave and educated.  Maybe if he said Romney then maybe he could say he hates Obama so much and just wants to see a change but Santorum is really really bad.  Alex has also said that Beck supports Paul but he doesn't Beck came out for Newt and Chuck Norris came out for Newt.  These people had their moments but when it matters most and when they have to put their chips down they fail.

Also saying the way we react is a litmus test makes no sense.  Dave Mustain talks a good game but his action of supporting NWO scum speaks very loudly.  There is nothing more constructive than identifying frauds imo.

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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2012, 09:10:15 PM »


Anyway the only reason you or anyone on this forum is a Dave Mustain fan is because Alex plays his music had him on and thus calls him a friend of the show.


I've been a fan of Dave's talent since I can remember.  Conjecture, speculation and projection are useless debate tools Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 09:28:46 PM »

I've been a fan of Dave's talent since I can remember.  Conjecture, speculation and projection are useless debate tools Roll Eyes

Ditto, on both statements.

I'd like to hear from Dave.
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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2012, 09:39:56 PM »

I've been a fan of Dave's talent since I can remember.  Conjecture, speculation and projection are useless debate tools Roll Eyes

So is disregarding my entire post and isolating the one item that is most convient for you.

Anyway I'm not upset at you nor am I really debating.  I am certain that you and I probably agree on 98% of the issues so imo you are a peer.  I'm just saying that when someone makes statemnet about the nwo and goes on Alex Jones and talks about it then turns around and supports Santorum.  I can't include him in the "not that awake" group like I did with Ventura many years ago.

Ventura several years ago made really dumb statements despite being on AJ's show but he often said that he was still learning and most importantly never supported anyone.  Dave went full out talking about the NWO and then throws his support behind a very obvious NWO tool in Santorum.  It's fraudulent.  You can like his music that's fine but he is not ignorant he knows who he is supporting and he needs to be called on it.  He shoudl support Ron Paul or say he doesn't trust any of them.  Or be like Tebow lol and not even give an opinion.  To outright throw his support behind Rick is just patronizing to the truth community imo.
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2012, 10:31:08 PM »

To outright throw his support behind Rick is just patronizing to the truth community imo.

You have to understand that there is many levels of being awake and very few are totally awake, with eyes and mind wide open. If you want to chastise someone who on many levels is an ally, without at least trying to extend to that person, a chance to explain themselves, and then try to further educate them, is a disservice to the truth community. IMO of course.
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2012, 11:02:23 PM »

satan would tell you 99 truths just to be able inject you with one timely lethal lie. At the end, does it matter if he told so many truths?
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2012, 11:06:24 PM »


satan would tell you 99 truths just to be able inject you with one timely lethal lie. At the end, does it matter if he told so many truths?


Sometimes people are being willfully deceptive to influence the masses.  Other times they are simply misguided/misinformed... it just happens that when this person talks, many see the comments due to their popularity.

Dave is not a shill for any agenda.  He's just a guy who probably gets his news from soundbites like the rest of country.
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2012, 01:03:11 AM »

It's obvious that Dave Mustaine is either working with the NWO and was on the show to mislead people or was just tying to promote his music, either way the guy is an AH, a big AH.

Alex needs to keep this guy off the show and stop playing his music.

I understand that he has fans and they will defend because it hard to accept when you are fan of some when they aren't who you thought they were.
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« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2012, 01:29:59 AM »


It's obvious that Dave Mustaine is either working with the NWO


Prove it.



and was on the show to mislead people


Really?  Do tell.



tying to promote his music


Duh.



Alex needs to keep this guy off the show and stop playing his music.


I would think having him on the show to confront him would be more beneficial.  Also, what does enjoying his music have to do with his recent comments about his thus-far political choice for POTUS this time around?



I understand that he has fans and they will defend because it hard to accept when you are fan of some when they aren't who you thought they were.


He's exactly who I thought he was... a talented and driven musician.  The political shit is separate.  Sure, I was ecstatic when he came on AJ's show regarding his album "Endgame", named after AJ's film.  His comments then merely alluded to him being awake, not necessarily well-informed.  Perhaps him making these comments will prove useful in getting his peers to discuss the subject in more detail.  As I said before, AJ is one of those peers.  Why not wait and see?

It seems to me that many are just looking for people to hate these days.
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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2012, 09:32:50 AM »

Clam down Dave Mustaine  fanatic  you are acting worse then a Star Wars  fanatic which I thought was impossible.

Prove it.


Proof is he endorsed Santorum


Really?  Do tell.

He said one thing the show and then went out and supported the guy who represents the exact opposite


Duh.


I would think having him on the show to confront him would be more beneficial.  Also, what does enjoying his music have to do with his recent comments about his thus-far political choice for POTUS this time around?


He's exactly who I thought he was... a talented and driven musician.  The political shit is separate.  Sure, I was ecstatic when he came on AJ's show regarding his album "Endgame", named after AJ's film.  His comments then merely alluded to him being awake, not necessarily well-informed.  Perhaps him making these comments will prove useful in getting his peers to discuss the subject in more detail.  As I said before, AJ is one of those peers.  Why not wait and see?

You thought he was a liar, Talented musician is a matter of opinion I don't think he does have any talent, Alex has a political show so that is what relevant here, He is not one of Alex's peers, Alex is a news caster/commentary man, Dave Mustaine is an old heavy metal band member.

No need to wait and see, Dave Mustaine went on Alex's show said how he knew what was happening then turns around and supports Santorum who is part of it.



It seems to me that many are just looking for people to hate these days.

Yes lets love the Bush family also maybe we can get Jeb Bush to run for President in 2016 who cares if they wrong and trying to mess people up.
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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2012, 11:07:09 AM »


Clam down Dave Mustaine  fanatic  you are acting worse then a Star Wars  fanatic which I thought was impossible.

Yes lets love the Bush family also maybe we can get Jeb Bush to run for President in 2016 who cares if they wrong and trying to mess people up.


Not a fan(atic), but an admirer of his musical talent... it's a musician thing, you wouldn't understand.  I've also seen him and others over the years in interviews talking about TPTB in the way they had awaken to them at the time.  There is just nothing in Dave's career prior to this ONE public statement of preference for -a- candidate that tells me he's "trying to mess people up".

I'm not the looney one here.  I'm simply pointing out that people are practically falling over themselves to insult the man... when it is more likely he's not fully informed (as opposed to an NWO shill).  What's wrong with seeing how AJ handles him in another on-show appearance?  Hell, I think it would be awesome to get him in-studio if he's not too busy... then he'd really be in the hot seat Cheesy


Oh, and claiming defending Dave is akin to supporting the Bush's is intellectual dishonesty at best.
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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2012, 11:33:53 AM »

I hate that AJ isn't even addressing it.  The story was on Drudge and all over multiple forums AND Dave is a friend of the show.  Whether you think there is anything wrong with him endorsing Santorum or not Alex really should at least give the story 2 minutes of his time.   
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« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2012, 03:02:22 PM »

Just found this: http://www.megadeth.com/home.php
February 16, 2012 - DAVE MUSTAINE RESPONDS TO REPORT REGARDING RICK SANTORUM

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Dave Mustaine has issued the following statement to clarify reports that he has endorsed Rick Santorum for president: "Contrary to how some people have interpreted my words, I have not endorsed any presidential candidate. What I did say was that I hope to see a Republican in the White House. I've seen good qualities in all the candidates but by no means have made my choice yet. I respect the fact that Santorum took time off from his campaign to be with his sick daughter, but I never used the word 'endorse. 
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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2012, 03:11:01 PM »


Thanks, Liberty4all Smiley Wink

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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2012, 02:17:27 PM »

Just found this: http://www.megadeth.com/home.php
February 16, 2012 - DAVE MUSTAINE RESPONDS TO REPORT REGARDING RICK SANTORUM


Nice try at damage control from his PR people and him, So no he's saying he's a partisan stooge and really isn't awake that he still still buys into the false left right paradigm.
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