Concerns about Tangy Tangerine

[Information Warfare]

I know recently Alex has been promoting youngevity products particularity Tangy Tangerine. Two concerns of mine have come up after reading the ingredients label that was posted on the Youngevity Website.

1. The vitamins contained in this product appear to be synthetic vitamins. While may not be harmfull have shown not to be as effective as vitamins derived from whole foods.

2. What shocked me was the ingredient label for this product says it contains some harmfull heavy metals including Aluminum, Lead, Mecury, Arsenic and Nickel. Below is a pic of the nutrition label.



Thoughts? Explanation?

[kmman1987]

Hmmm? Good catch. I was thinking about trying this...Wheres the Med. guru''s when ya need them

[MonkeyPuppet]

As a CYA thing as well as a requirement for responsible labeling, product manufacturers must disclose that indeed plant-derived minerals will and do contain trace amounts of natural substances... like heavy metals.  They're not adding arsenic, mercury, nickel and aluminum to anything.  These exist in nature.

This is not like the mercury-lacing done with vaccines where it is intentionally added as an adjuvant.

[kmman1987]

As a CYA thing as well as a requirement for responsible labeling, product manufacturers must disclose that indeed plant-derived minerals will and do contain trace amounts of natural substances... like heavy metals.  They're not adding arsenic, mercury, nickel and aluminum to anything.  These exist in nature.

This is not like the mercury-lacing done with vaccines where it is intentionally added as an adjuvant.

 I agree with that, was just hoping to get a little high brow explanation of this.Thanks.

[Information Warfare]

As a CYA thing as well as a requirement for responsible labeling, product manufacturers must disclose that indeed plant-derived minerals will and do contain trace amounts of natural substances... like heavy metals.  They're not adding arsenic, mercury, nickel and aluminum to anything.  These exist in nature.

This is not like the mercury-lacing done with vaccines where it is intentionally added as an adjuvant.

Ya I hear ya. The environment getting so polluted its almost impossible now to grow clean crops in many areas. Unless you grow your food in a enclosed bio-dome. I guess at least they are honest about it. Many products especially those with corn syrup tend to be laced with mercury but you wont see that on the label.

[Sharon]

I'd like to know more about it since I just bought some and don't see a big difference in my appetite like Alex talks about. He doesn't say how much he takes, so I don't know if I'm not taking enough or what. Anyone have thoughts on this??

[MonkeyPuppet]

I'd like to know more about it since I just bought some and don't see a big difference in my appetite like Alex talks about. He doesn't say how much he takes, so I don't know if I'm not taking enough or what. Anyone have thoughts on this??

Like any vitamin and mineral supplement, results are subjective.  However, with any quality product of this type, you won't outright notice anything really... especially not for at least 3-6 weeks.  Your body will acclimate to how you treat it.  The same is true whether it's bad or good, so be patient.

If after a couple months you decide you're getting nothing out of it, so be it.  Heck, without a full battery of tests, there's no way to know that your body is missing anything TT offers anyway.  For the most part, a healthy functioning body (and all its systems) will simply discard excess nutrients.  Some nutrients can become toxic at very high levels, but you'd have to force-feed yourself a couple containers of TT for that level of toxicity... you'd puke it up before it hurt you.

Anyway, give it some time.  There is no one-size-fits-all product, routine, or diet out there.  It's all trial and error.

I haven't reordered since I ran out a couple months ago (just moved) and I have definitely noticed a difference in my energy level starting a couple weeks ago... time to get back on the sauce =].

[donnay]

I used tangy tangerine and I didn't care for the iron taste.  So, I have been doing the Pollen Burst for a month and noticed a significance in my cravings for different things decreased and I have increased energy levels.  It took about a whole month to feel the difference.  I do exactly what is recommended on the directions.  I have stopped drinking coffee altogether (I used to drink about 5 plus cups daily).

[MonkeyPuppet]

Pollen Burst looks great, but TT is a more full range supplement, comparatively.  I think it taste great, but I agree it's got a metallic taste to it... that's why I toss it in the blender with some protein powder, a banana and 8oz of coconut milk.  It's dreamy and makes getting out of bed totally worth it =].

[Sharon]

Like any vitamin and mineral supplement, results are subjective.  However, with any quality product of this type, you won't outright notice anything really... especially not for at least 3-6 weeks.  Your body will acclimate to how you treat it.  The same is true whether it's bad or good, so be patient.

If after a couple months you decide you're getting nothing out of it, so be it.  Heck, without a full battery of tests, there's no way to know that your body is missing anything TT offers anyway.  For the most part, a healthy functioning body (and all its systems) will simply discard excess nutrients.  Some nutrients can become toxic at very high levels, but you'd have to force-feed yourself a couple containers of TT for that level of toxicity... you'd puke it up before it hurt you.

Anyway, give it some time.  There is no one-size-fits-all product, routine, or diet out there.  It's all trial and error.

I haven't reordered since I ran out a couple months ago (just moved) and I have definitely noticed a difference in my energy level starting a couple weeks ago... time to get back on the sauce =].

I've only been drinking it for 4 days now, so I'm sure I need to wait to see what happens. I know not everyone's system is the same. I did notice the 'iron' taste but it doesn't really bother me.... the more you use the stronger it is, but if you use more water it will tone the iron/metallic taste down. I also have GERDS, so the citrus tends to upset my stomach sometimes, but if I take papaya enzymes, I'm fine.

I would like to try the pollen burst, but have to save some money for that. How does that one taste?

[Sharon]

I know recently Alex has been promoting youngevity products particularity Tangy Tangerine. Two concerns of mine have come up after reading the ingredients label that was posted on the Youngevity Website.

1. The vitamins contained in this product appear to be synthetic vitamins. While may not be harmfull have shown not to be as effective as vitamins derived from whole foods.

2. What shocked me was the ingredient label for this product says it contains some harmfull heavy metals including Aluminum, Lead, Mecury, Arsenic and Nickel. Below is a pic of the nutrition label.



Thoughts? Explanation?

Thank you for posting this ingredients list because the new canister I have doesn't show the ingredients of the plant derived minerals. What concerns me more isn't the fact certain metals are in there, but that they took that info off the label.

[Scarbo]

TT made me really hungry. I don't think I can use it.

[donnay]

I've only been drinking it for 4 days now, so I'm sure I need to wait to see what happens. I know not everyone's system is the same. I did notice the 'iron' taste but it doesn't really bother me.... the more you use the stronger it is, but if you use more water it will tone the iron/metallic taste down. I also have GERDS, so the citrus tends to upset my stomach sometimes, but if I take papaya enzymes, I'm fine.

I would like to try the pollen burst, but have to save some money for that. How does that one taste?

I, personally, prefer the Pollen Burst.  It tastes like Tang to me.  

[Vitiare]

If the toxic elements are in colloid form and are being passed through the body quickly, wouldn't colloidal silver do the same thing, thus rendering the product also being hocked on GCN useless? Someone please use some appropriate scientific quackery to explain this away.   

The product also contains xanthan gum (fermented glucose) that can be harmful to people with wheat allergies.

As for Alex's amazing weight loss, that comes from exercise. He mentioned in one of his rants that he runs 6 - 8 miles every day. Hell, you could eat a Big Mac every day and still lose weight if you're getting that much cardio.

That's the thing about most "health" products that promote losing weight: they all mention that it should be used as part of a healthy-living  regimen that includes exercise. So if you are watching what you eat, and getting plenty of exercise, why do you need the product?

"Because it gives me energy and makes me feel younger!" they say. Of course it will! You are consuming 16,000% of the recommended daily allowance of vitamin B-12!

And the Tangy Tangerine product is amusing in that you are expected to take two scoops per hundred pounds of body weight, "1 to 2 times daily" which means you will be draining that $50 container of powder in about a week. Better buy two or more!

And Dr Joel Wallach, the guy who came up with this product? He's a veterinarian.

[tinfoiltruth]

My concern is the Maltodextrin which tends to crystalize in the kidneys. and the last thing you want is kindey stones.

[MonkeyPuppet]

If the toxic elements are in colloid form and are being passed through the body quickly, wouldn't colloidal silver do the same thing, thus rendering the product also being hocked on GCN useless? Someone please use some appropriate scientific quackery to explain this away.   

Not sure of the scientific quackery part or the specifics of how other stuff might "pass through the body quickly", but colloidial silver can actually result in a depositing of silver in the skin... hence the risk of argyria from over-use.

The product also contains xanthan gum (fermented glucose) that can be harmful to people with wheat allergies.

You've got your information backwards here.  Xanthan gum is an alternative to wheat-gluten.

That's the thing about most "health" products that promote losing weight: they all mention that it should be used as part of a healthy-living  regimen that includes exercise. So if you are watching what you eat, and getting plenty of exercise, why do you need the product?

Honestly I don't know why anyone would exclaim the weight-loss properties of a nutritional supplement.  The purpose of a supplement is to provide the body with the right amount (or if necessary, an excess) of a substance you're lacking or of which you're deficient.  Anyone taking anything for weight-loss is not addressing the cause of the extra weight.

"Because it gives me energy and makes me feel younger!" they say. Of course it will! You are consuming 16,000% of the recommended daily allowance of vitamin B-12!

Sure, that's part of it, but also providing your body with a boost of all the nutrients in which you may be deficient will result in an improved mood, more energy and a host of other healthy benefits.

And the Tangy Tangerine product is amusing in that you are expected to take two scoops per hundred pounds of body weight, "1 to 2 times daily" which means you will be draining that $50 container of powder in about a week. Better buy two or more!

I really don't care what the "suggested use" says... that's about as stupid and following the directions for shampoo (wash, rinse, waste more product.. err, repeat).  Reading the nutrients per serving (which is 2 scoops), I can deduce that one serving in my morning smoothie is plenty for me in context with the rest of my diet.

And Dr Joel Wallach, the guy who came up with this product? He's a veterinarian.

Yeah, because vets aren't doctors

[CaptBebops]

I would love to hear Ben Fuchs take on biochemical individuality because by that this product wouldn't work for everybody.  It may work for people who fall into a certain group with certain symptoms.  Just as one size shoe does not fit all, one diet or supplement will not fit all.  I did however hear Fuchs suggest a magnesium supplement when Alex mentioned that the product was making him feel more aggressive.

[Vitiare]

You've got your information backwards here.  Xanthan gum is an alternative to wheat-gluten.

From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanthan_gum#Health

" It is produced by the fermentation of glucose, sucrose, or lactose by the Xanthomonas campestris bacterium. After a fermentation period, the polysaccharide is precipitated from a growth medium with isopropyl alcohol, dried, and ground into a fine powder. Later, it is added to a liquid medium to form the gum"

"...Xanthan gum may be derived from a variety of source products that are themselves common allergens, such as corn, wheat, dairy, or soy. As such, persons with known sensitivities or allergies to food products are advised to avoid foods including generic xanthan gum or first determine the source for the xanthan gum before consuming the food."

Honestly I don't know why anyone would exclaim the weight-loss properties of a nutritional supplement.  The purpose of a supplement is to provide the body with the right amount (or if necessary, an excess) of a substance you're lacking or of which you're deficient.  Anyone taking anything for weight-loss is not addressing the cause of the extra weight.

And yet, millions of people buy powders and the like thinking it will make them skinny.

I really don't care what the "suggested use" says... that's about as stupid and following the directions for shampoo (wash, rinse, waste more product.. err, repeat).  Reading the nutrients per serving (which is 2 scoops), I can deduce that one serving in my morning smoothie is plenty for me in context with the rest of my diet.

Yes, but one of Alex's commercials for the product talks about how he started taking TT a while ago, but wasnt really following what the directions said, until he saw the incredible results a co-worker was seeing because he was more disciplined about it. That should be enough to get people to use the product much faster.

Yeah, because vets aren't doctors

No, Vets are fine doctors for animals. What concerns me is that nowhere do they mention he's a Vet, which means that by calling him "Doctor Wallach" might make people think he's a medical doctor, and therefore give him more credibility with the name. 

[CaptBebops]

There is this idea that we treat our pets better than we treat ourselves.  That's why some vets get into nutritional programs for people because we're animals too and there seems to have been better studies done on how to keep your dog functioning properly than yourself.  Whereas MD's may only get one course in school on nutrition.

[Vitiare]

Or because being a vet is infinitely easier since the patient cant sue you if you make a mistake.

That, and everyone thinks your an MD when you call yourself "Doctor _____"

[donnay]

I would love to hear Ben Fuchs take on biochemical individuality because by that this product wouldn't work for everybody.  It may work for people who fall into a certain group with certain symptoms.  Just as one size shoe does not fit all, one diet or supplement will not fit all.  I did however hear Fuchs suggest a magnesium supplement when Alex mentioned that the product was making him feel more aggressive.

SIGH...as it stands now, most Americans have huge vitamin and mineral deficiencies.  However, one needs to learn to know their body and understand that certain cravings for different foods is your body trying to tell you that you need something.  When the body has an even balance of vitamin and minerals you will notice many things...

A) Much of the cravings will stop
B) You'll lose weight without really trying
C) You will have more energy
D) You have a more radiant look and less sickness
E) You'll feel like a million bucks

In any case, collectively, we are severely vitamin and mineral deficient.  So by replenishing our bodies with the right nutrients we will have better balanced and our bodies will work much better, fight off disease and preform better.

I do the Pollen burst it works great for me.

[CaptBebops]

I studied and experimented with a lot of this stuff back in the 1970s and also had access to holistic practitioners.  I eventually became aware of oriental medicine like Indian Ayurveda and Chinese Medicine (Yin and Yang).  Those have observed biochemical individuality for centuries.  Then there is the western research work by people like Dr. George Watson on slow and fast oxidation.  You can find some of this information with a search (Watson's "Nutrition and Your Mind" is available on Google Books).  These are all useful tools for maintaining health.  Vitamin/mineral supplements and herbs can be useful in conjunction with diet plans to adjust the rate of oxidation and bring the individual into normal functioning and maintain it.  Slow oxidizers need different vitamins and minerals than the fast oxidizers.

[InTheSpiritOfThings]

I was listening to the Bright Side with Ben Fuchs (the 3-7-12 show), and he took a caller who specifically was trying to lose weight. Ben said that taking a multi-vitamin would be more important than the Beyond Tangy Tangerine. As well as 50mg of Zinc, Vitamin C, and the B-Complex. I'm sure that if I compare the ingredients in the Youngevity Ultimate Daily, I can probably find something similar and less expensive.

He also stressed to cut out the refined carbs and replace it with protein and EFA's. I think that part is pretty obvious.

[AgentExeider]

Has there been any progress on answering the OPs questions, I just ordered some of this stuff and I want to know if this stuff is legit?

I've been taking it for about a week now, and I just found this thread. I wish I would of found this thread a week ago before I ordered it.

Did I just screw myself up or what seriously, I am concerned here.

-AE

[platinumpi4u]

I haven't tried the Tangy Tangerine or the other youngivity products...

But I have tried the Enerhealth Botanicals Super Green Superfoods...

This stuff is like drinking your 4 or 5 cups of coffee - BUT THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE: you don't feel like you drank that much, but when you go to move or do something, the energy and endurance is instantly there, all day long - yet you can still fall asleep no problem.

And the ingredients are all non-GMO / organic, and it is made from literally the top 15 superfoods that there are on the planet - so literally you are drinking the best stuff on earth (snapple lied..! ).

So I usually drink it straight mixed with water, or I put it in a smoothie in the blender. Check it out for your self: http://www.enerfoodreviews.com/special/

[AgentExeider]

ok, i'm not interested in the sales pitch, I'm asking if the fact there is Mercury, Lead, Arsenic and Aluminum in the Tangy Tangerine a cause for concern. I would like an answer, does the fact that it's colloidal mean any difference, is this stuff safe?

-AE

[MonkeyPuppet]

ok, i'm not interested in the sales pitch, I'm asking if the fact there is Mercury, Lead, Arsenic and Aluminum in the Tangy Tangerine a cause for concern. I would like an answer, does the fact that it's colloidal mean any difference, is this stuff safe?

-AE

Are you asking others to email the manufacturer for you, or if any of us work for a lab that can do the actual testing?

If you're wanting the info from the horse's mouth, Helpdesk@Youngevity.net

I don't work in a lab, so anything beyond my previous comment would be pure conjecture.

[AgentExeider]

Are you asking others to email the manufacturer for you, or if any of us work for a lab that can do the actual testing?

If you're wanting the info from the horse's mouth, Helpdesk@Youngevity.net

I don't work in a lab, so anything beyond my previous comment would be pure conjecture.

I'm saying has anyone done any independent testing, does anyone know for a fact that colloidal versions of these metals are harmless. I did email the manufacturer, but after reading their site, I'm sure the reply will be something akin to their FAQ about it, that it is not only harmless but supposedly will actually pull those heavy metals out of you.

I am asking those of you who are familiar with colloidal metals, but as I understand it colloidal just means a much smaller particle size, but just having a smaller particle size doesn't magically change the properties of the chemical.

What I'm asking is how is these "flavors" of these metals different then the ones that kill you, is there ionic charge different, are they neutral? What is to keep the mercury in this from lodging itself into my brain and giving me brain damage.

-AE

[BranstonPickle]

I've looked at TT, but it's just way too expensive. I am getting similar dosages - (actually less Vit A but way more B12) - by taking Emergen-C, a Multi-vit for women with added D3, Now Foods B-12 packets (2000 mcg) and I also take a mega dose Iodine supplement (12.5mg). All of those things added together are way cheaper than TT. 

[Cynthia]

I believe that anyone who is nutritionally deficient, any nutrients, be it chemically synthesized, or natural, will feel results.  Most people don't know the difference between chemical and natural vitamins listed on a label.

I know a lot of people say it's wonderful, but how much of it is hype to get people to join and sell? I believe if a person is deficient in nutrients for a very long time that their body will respond to nutrients it gets, synthetic or natural. But overtime the person who consumes the synthetic nutrients will not do as well in the long run.  


Besides Tangy Tangerine having a lot of synthetic vitamins in it, this is what I found most disturbing...

Analysis Report of Majestic Earth Minerals: .pdf]http://www.youngevity.net/images/pdf/analysis[1].pdf
The aluminum - mg/L 1490. It is really extremely high. If this amount was in your drinking water it would be listed as hazardous. I can't imagine drinking this everyday, since it is accumulative and you get aluminum inadvertently from other sources.

According to...

Human Health Hazards: Aluminum in Drinking Water: http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/publications/P0/P00261.pdf
The World Health Organization has recommended that aluminum levels in community water supplies should not exceed 0.2 mg/L. This is the same level allowed in bottled water which is regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. In January 2011, Wisconsin adopted a standard of 0.2 mg/L for aluminum levels in groundwater. Water that contains more than 0.2 mg aluminum per liter should not be used for drinking water or to prepare beverages or infant formula. It is safe to use this water for other purposes such as bathing, showering, food preparation, and household chores.

Aluminum is not good for you no matter what Youngevity says. They say it's from "natural" sources, but ALL aluminum is from natural sources!

ULTIMATE TANGY TANGERINE® Supplement Facts: http://www.youngevity.net/images/pdf/MJ14tangy.pdf

Ingredients... (in bold)

Natural flavors - derived from? What company makes it?
Natural Flavors - or basically any combination of molecules a chemist can derive from 'natural' sources to make their food taste or look a certain way. http://www.naturalnews.com/035353_fruit_juice_soda_alternatives.html

Sucralose - (NaturalNews) -Sucralose is a chlorinated organic compound, a chemical group which includes several compounds known to be harmful to animals and plants and which has been linked to birth defects and other prenatal conditions. The body does not recognize artificial sweeteners like sucralose as food, but instead essentially processes them as toxins. http://www.naturalnews.com/033794_energy_drinks_side_effects.html

Potassium benzoate - (NaturalNews) The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has known for almost 15 years that potassium benzoate and sodium benzoate react with ascorbic acid to form benzenes. Potassium benzoate, sodium benzoate and ascorbic acids are all commonly used to preserve freshness in soft drinks. http://www.naturalnews.com/019983.html

Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid)
  (NaturalNews) One of the most highly processed and publicized vitamins is Vitamin C. The synthetic form of Vitamin C is `ascorbic acid.` However, ascorbic acid is not really vitamin C. Ascorbic acid is the outer ring that serves as a protective shell for the entire complex that is known as Vitamin C. The full structure of vitamin C as it is found in natural foods contains the following:
RutinBioflavonoids (vitamin P) Factor K
Factor JFactor P Tyrosinase
Ascorbinogen Ascorbic Acid
   When you consume synthetic ascorbic acid, the body must gather all of the other components from the body`s tissues in order to make the complete complex. If the other components are not present, the body will simply eliminate the ascorbic acid in the urine.
http://www.naturalnews.com/032058_synthetic_vitamins_supplements.html

Vitamin K (as phytonadione) - (NaturalNews) K1, 2, or synthetic 3? They don't say.
http://www.naturalnews.com/023503_vitamin_K_inflammation_disease.html

Vitamin B-6 30 mg 1500% (as pyridoxine hydrochloride) (synthetic)
(NaturalNews) http://www.naturalnews.com/033162_food_ingredients_chemicals.html Hydrochloride - When you see anything hydrochloride, such as Pyridoxine Hydrochloride or Thiamin Hydrochloride, those are chemical forms of B vitamins that companies add to their products to be able to claim higher RDA values of vitamins. But these are synthetic, chemical forms of vitamins, not real vitamins from foods or plants. Nutritionally, they are near-useless and may actually be bad for you. Also watch out for niacinamide and cyanocobalamin (synthetic vitamin B-12). (http://www.naturalnews.com/032766_cyanocobalamin_vitamin_B-12.html) http://www.naturalnews.com/032766_cyanocobalamin_vitamin_B-12.html

Niacin (as niacinamide) - (synthetic) See above.

Vitamin B-12 (as cyanocobalamin) (synthetic)
Vitamin B-12 warning: Avoid cyanocobalamin, take only methylcobalamin
http://www.naturalnews.com/032766_cyanocobalamin_vitamin_B-12.html
   (NaturalNews) Cyanocobalamin is a cheap, synthetic chemical made in a laboratory. It's virtually impossible for you to find this form in nature. Low-end vitamin manufacturers use it because it can be bought in bulk and added to products with claims that they "contain vitamin B-12!" What they don't tell you is that the vitamin is bound to a toxic, poisonous cyanide molecule that must then be removed from your body by your liver. Cyanocobalamin is also up to 100 times cheaper than the higher quality methylcobalamin which we'll talk about below.
   As Wikipedia explains: "A common synthetic form of the vitamin, cyanocobalamin, does not occur in nature, but is used in many pharmaceuticals and supplements, and as a food additive, because of its lower cost. In the body it is converted to the physiological forms, methylcobalamin and adenosylcobalamin, leaving behind the cyanide..." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12)
    Removing the cyanide molecule from the vitamin and then flushing it out of your body requires using up so-called "methyl groups" of molecules in your body that are needed to fight things like homocysteine (high levels cause heart disease). By taking low-quality cyanobalamin, you're actually stealing methyl groups from your body and making it do more work at the biochemical level. This uses up substances such as glutathione that are often in short supply anyway, potentially worsening your overall health situation rather than helping it. This is one of the reasons why low-grade vitamins may actually be worse for your body than taking nothing at all!
    Cyanocobalamin, in summary, is a low-grade, low-quality and slightly toxic (cyanide) form of vitamin B-12 that's used by all the cheap vitamin manufacturers. I recommend avoiding it completely. It won't kill you to take it, of course, but there's a better solution for B-12.

Contains bee pollen - may be a problem for people who are allergic and may not be aware of it being in the product.


Other ingredients...

maltodextrin - Natural MSG is known as L-glutamic acid, an amino acid that is found in plants and animals and is harmless. If it says, maltodextrin, barley malt, whey protein, soy protein isolate (or words to that nature), IT IS MSG.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/026973_MSG_food_foods.html#ixzz1rqtIkSzY

You will not see this Tangy Tangerine product being pushed on Mike Adams Natural Health web site. With all the wonderful whole food organic supplements available this one, in my estimation is one of the poorest choices. Wouldn't it be better to spend your money on certified organic foods instead? You can not substitute a poor diet with just supplements.

[Letsbereal]

Good that you guys stay critical.

Planned a study on the subject so this is very helpful to get started later.

[platinumpi4u]

What about the 90 amino acids etc... the Enerfoods product only has 8 or 9 amino acids, but the longevity says it has 90? Are they fake minerals too?

[Effie Trinket]

"Because it gives me energy and makes me feel younger!" they say. Of course it will! You are consuming 16,000% of the recommended daily allowance of vitamin B-12!

That's how much everyone should be getting a day.  The RDA is a TOTAL joke for B12, as well as most other nutrients.  The form that is in the product being discussed is also inferior.  The best form is Methylcobalamin taken sublingually.

[Valerius]

I haven't tried the Tangy Tangerine or the other youngivity products...

But I have tried the Enerhealth Botanicals Super Green Superfoods...

This stuff is like drinking your 4 or 5 cups of coffee - BUT THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE: you don't feel like you drank that much, but when you go to move or do something, the energy and endurance is instantly there, all day long - yet you can still fall asleep no problem.

And the ingredients are all non-GMO / organic, and it is made from literally the top 15 superfoods that there are on the planet - so literally you are drinking the best stuff on earth (snapple lied..! ).

So I usually drink it straight mixed with water, or I put it in a smoothie in the blender. Check it out for your self: http://www.enerfoodreviews.com/special/

I get Enerfood's products from time to time.

[Cynthia]

First of all this Youngevity product line is probably one of the worst choices for a "natural" supplement. Their Tangy Tangerine is loaded with aluminum and synthetic vitamins (see my other post below). I studied alternative health for 30 years and I can tell you this is not a healthy supplement. There are many product available, a lot cheaper and healthier than this.

Secondly, I know Alex is trying to make some needed money by promoting Youngevity products and recruiting people to sell it. But I listen to GCN, Alex Jones, Pharmacist Ben and others, and I gotta say I am so very tired of hearing about it on all these programs. It's like listening to one big infomercial on Youngevity throughout the morning and afternoon. Alex Jones and Pharmacist Ben most of the time really over do it and I have to turn it of and put Russia Today on for the news instead.  Even if it was something that I really liked, I still wouldn't like hearing about it constantly. Commercials are bad enough, but infomercials are worse in my opinion.

[Scarbo]

First of all this Youngevity product line is probably one of the worst choices for a "natural" supplement. Their Tangy Tangerine is loaded with aluminum and synthetic vitamins (see my other post below). I studied alternative health for 30 years and I can tell you this is not a healthy supplement. There are many product available, a lot cheaper and healthier than this.

Do you have any recommendations? And what about Youngevity's ASAP. Is that full of bad things as well?

[DAVIDE MTL]

Do you have any recommendations? And what about Youngevity's ASAP. Is that full of bad things as well?

pm me if you want the good stuff

[egypt]

Educate yourself on what real nutrition is.  You will then know that Tangy Tangerine is fantastic.

I take it myself.

Not only do metals occur naturally in nature, we need a certain small amount of them.  You will find the same metals when taking other colloidal mineral supplements or drinks.

I was completely surprised to find that everything Alex says about the Tangy Tangerine to be true!  Now why would I be surprised when ~everything~ Alex says is UNDERSTATED !  I have found this to be true over the years of listening to him and checking things out that he says.

I had absolutely no expectations with the Tangy Tangerine.  It is the finest way to get a load of vitamins and minerals.  And, what a blend.  It does make me less hungry.  I eat less.  I know it is because I'm getting the nutrition I need.  My hair is nicer, my skin is soft, smooth and clear.  These are all indicators of receiving proper nutrition.

I really appreciate Alex finding the Tangy Tangerine.  I appreciate everything Alex does.

No, I do not sell Tangy Tangerine, I am strictly a consumer.

Love, e

[donnay]

Educate yourself on what real nutrition is.  You will then know that Tangy Tangerine is fantastic.

I take it myself.

Not only do metals occur naturally in nature, we need a certain small amount of them.  You will find the same metals when taking other colloidal mineral supplements or drinks.

I was completely surprised to find that everything Alex says about the Tangy Tangerine to be true!  Now why would I be surprised when ~everything~ Alex says is UNDERSTATED !  I have found this to be true over the years of listening to him and checking things out that he says.

I had absolutely no expectations with the Tangy Tangerine.  It is the finest way to get a load of vitamins and minerals.  And, what a blend.  It does make me less hungry.  I eat less.  I know it is because I'm getting the nutrition I need.  My hair is nicer, my skin is soft, smooth and clear.  These are all indicators of receiving proper nutrition.

I really appreciate Alex finding the Tangy Tangerine.  I appreciate everything Alex does.

No, I do not sell Tangy Tangerine, I am strictly a consumer.

Love, e

I am not doing the Tangy Tangerine.  I am doing the Pollen Burst and Rebound.  I have been doing the PB for over five months now and I love the stuff.  I just started doing the Rebound and so far so good.  I have more energy and less hungry and surprisingly enough, I do not crave things like I used to--salts and sweets.

I just got back from a family reunion of sorts and family members were coming up to me telling me how young I looked and that I look the youngest, even though I am the oldest child in my family.    That definitely made me feel that the vitamin and minerals I am taking in the Youngevity products are really doing the trick!

[John_Back_From_The_Club_O]

No, Vets are fine doctors for animals. What concerns me is that nowhere do they mention he's a Vet, which means that by calling him "Doctor Wallach" might make people think he's a medical doctor, and therefore give him more credibility with the name.  

Had you done your home work on doctor Wallach he is IN FACT a 'nutritional medical doctor (for humans) outside of his vet practice.  

You bring up some valid concerns some have been properly put to rest.  However, with all of your own knowledge base Vitiare you do NOT give the rest of us any alternatives which, makes your posts and where you are coming from, very suspect IMHO.

With that said I am very happy you pointed out the concerns with Youngevity please give us the alternatives.

Thank you.