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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2010, 09:48:06 AM » |
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Decided to go back and read Arthur C Clarke's Childhood's End.
Here are some quotes of interest...
Chapter 6
Fifty years is ample time in which to change a world and its people almost beyond recognition. All that is required for the task are a sound knowledge of social engineering, a clear sight of the intended goal-and power.
These things the Overlords possessed. Though their goal was hidden, their knowledge was obvious-and so was their power.
Chapter 2
Within those silent, unmoving ships, master psychologists were studying humanity's reactions. When the curve of tension had reached its peak, they would act.
...Local internal governments would retain their powers, but in the wider field of international affairs the supreme decisions had passed from human hands. Argument-protests-all were futile.
Chapter 4
"You have often asked me about our long-term plans," he continued. "The foundation of a World State is, of course, only the first step. You will live to see its completion-but the change will be so imperceptible that few will notice it when it comes. After that there will be a period of slow consolidation while your race becomes prepared for us. And then will come the day which we have promised. I am sorry you will not be there."
Chapter 6
With the energies of mankind directed into constructive channels, the face of the world had been remade. It was almost literally, a new world. The cities that had been good enough for earlier generations had been rebuilt-or deserted...for the whole pattern of industry and commerce had changed completely...
It was One World...
Chapter 5
It was a tribute to the Overlords' psychology, and to their careful years of preparation, that only a few people fainted. Yet there could have been fewer still, anywhere in the world, who did not feel the ancient terror brush for one awful instant against their minds before reason banished it forever.
There was no mistake. The leathery wings, the little horns, the barbed tail—all were there. The most terrible of all legends had come to life, out of the unknown past. Yet now it stood smiling, in ebony majesty, with the sunlight gleaming upon its tremendous body, and with a human child resting trustfully on either arm.
On the copyright page of this book it says...
The opinions expressed in this book are not those of the author.
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"It was lifeless, of course--not, as he had thought in that first moment of panic, consciously staring up at him.
It filled almost all that great circular space, and the ruby light gleamed and shifted in its crystal depths.
It was a single giant eye." Childhood's End Pg. 190Is Knowing a retelling of Childhood's End?   "Sticks and stones are rising into the sky, almost as if the Earth itself is trying to follow them out into space."Childhood's End Pg.209There are several story elements shared by both Childhood's End and Knowing. First of all, there is the fifty year time interval. The aliens contact us but don't reveal themselves for 50 years. The aliens in Knowing contact the little girl in 1959 and her list of dates are buried in the time capsule for fifty years. This is when they start to appear to people and pick up children who hear the call. Granted, the aliens in Knowing don't look like the devil, but they do appear rather angelic, and are made of light. The Devil was, after all, an angel before he fell... Another similarity is that only the children hear the call of the aliens and only they survive. The parents are left to die. In Clarke's book, the Overlords take all of the children away from their parents and put them in Africa. The ultimate evolution of these children destroys the entire planet. Clearly the aliens in Knowing do something similar by removing the children from their parents and dropping them on a different planet...that looks a little like the plains of Africa. ~~~~~ Using Stories of Highly Evolved Aliens To Sell The Idea That Men Can Evolve Into Gods
The Sentinel, Childhood's End, 2001, Knowing and Watchmen
Kubrick at 2001 opening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdKHuyhhyuM&feature=relatedRichard Dawkins admits to Intelligent Designhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoncJBrrdQ8The Sentinel (1951) The mechanisms - if indeed they are mechanisms - of the pyramid belong to a technology that lies far beyond our horizon, perhaps to the technology of paraphysical forces.
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When our world was half its present age, something from the stars swept through the Solar System,
left this token of its passage, and went again upon its way. Until we destroyed it, that machine was
still fulfilling the purpose of its builders; and as to that purpose, here is my guess.
Nearly a hundred thousand million stars are turning in the circle of the Milky Way, and long ago
other races on the worlds of other suns must have scaled and passed the heights that we have
reached. Think of such civilizations, far back in time against the fading afterglow of Creation,
masters of a universe so young that life as yet had come only to a handful of worlds. Theirs would
have been a loneliness we cannot imagine, the loneliness of gods looking out across infinity and
finding none to share their thoughts.
They must have searched the star-clusters as we have searched the planets. Everywhere there would
be worlds, but they would be empty or peopled with crawling, mindless things. Such was our own
Earth, the smoke of the great volcanoes still staining the skies, when that first ship of the peoples of
the dawn came sliding in from the abyss beyond Pluto. It passed the frozen outer worlds, knowing
that life could play no part in their destinies. It came to rest among the inner planets, warming
themselves around the fire of the Sun and waiting for their stories to begin.
Those wanderers must have looked on Earth, circling safely in the narrow zone between fire and
ice, and must have guessed that it was the favorite of the Sun’s children. Here, in the distant future,
would be intelligence; but there were countless stars before -them still, and they might never come
this way again.
So they left a sentinel, one of millions they have scattered throughout the Universe, watching over
all worlds with the promise of life. It was a beacon that down the ages has been patiently signaling
the fact that no one had discovered it.
Perhaps you understand now why that crystal pyramid was set upon the Moon instead of on the
Earth. Its builders were not concerned with races still struggling up from savagery. They would be
interested in our civilization only if we proved our fitness to survive -by crossing space and so
escaping from the Earth, our cradle. That is the challenge that all intelligent races must meet,
sooner or later. It is a double challenge, for it depends in turn upon the conquest of atomic energy
and the last choice between life and death.
Once we had passed that crisis, it was only a matter of time before we found the pyramid and
forced it open. Now its signals have ceased, and those whose duty it is will be turning their minds
upon Earth. Perhaps they wish to help our infant civilization. But they must be very, very old, and
the old are often insanely jealous of the young.
I can never look now at the Milky Way without wondering from which of those banked clouds of
stars the emissaries are coming. If you will pardon so commonplace a simile, we have set off the
fire-alarm and have nothing to do but to wait.
I do not think we will have to wait for long.
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There's a thread in this section that details a comment Kubrick made about Clarke wanting him to watch H.G. Wells Things To Come... http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161139.0It's also well known that Sci-Fi writer Philip K Dick sent a letter to the FBI saying this... ...I bring this to your attention because several months ago I was approached by an individual who I have reason to believe belonged to a covert organization involving politics, illegal weapons, etc., who put great pressure on me to place coded information in future novels "to be read by the right people here and there," as he phrased it. I refused to do this.
The reason why I am contacting you about this now is that it now appears that other science fiction writers may have been so approached by other members of this obviously anti-American organization and may have yielded to the threats and deceitful statements such as were used on me. Therefore I would like to give you any and all information and help I can regarding this, and I ask that your nearest office contact me as soon as possible. I stress the urgency of this because within the last three days I have come across a well-distributed science fiction novel which contains in essence the vital material which this individual confronted me with as the basis for encoding. That novel is CAMP CONCENTRATION by Thomas Disch, which was published by Doubleday & Co. http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/07/neo-nazis-syphilis-and-world-war-iii.html"It was a tribute to the Overlords' psychology, and to their careful years of preparation..."
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Saw two familiar symbols in the SyFy Channel's 12/21/2010 airing of this show... I know, it's just a coincidence, right? Something it reveals, which was new to me, is that the Pentagon and Rand Corporation were investigating "Pole Shift" in the late 40's. Rand is mentioned at 8:50 in this video... 2012 Startling New Secrets - Part 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3UreCbhsvw
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Ancient Aliens is produced by Prometheus Entertainment... http://www.prometheusentertainment.com/programs_ancientaliensIn Greek mythology, Prometheus...was a champion of mankind, known for his wily intelligence, who stole fire from Zeus and gave it to mortals. Zeus then punished him for his crime by having him bound to a rock while a great eagle ate his liver every day only to have it grow back to be eaten again the next day. His myth has been treated by a number of ancient sources, in which Prometheus is credited with – or blamed for – playing a pivotal role in the early history of mankind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus
New Zodiac Sign Ophiuchus Shifts Other Astrological Dates, Causes Identity Crisis http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/13/new-zodiac-sign-ophiucus-astrology_n_808641.htmlOphiuchus is the "Dark Rift" all of the 2012 idiots are talking about. It's the center of the galaxy. This is a "trend" on Yahoo today. The programming continues... |
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The symbol is set in a limitless field of blue, which signifies the sphere of life expression of our solar Logos, who is said to be a deep blue, second-ray Logos. The potency and quality of his pervading life maintains and conditions all within the solar system including the life and destiny of our planetary Logos, Sanat Kumara. It is the most powerful factor which we are able to touch mentally. The golden disc, against which the triangle and the star appear, symbolises the all inclusive background of our life on this planet. Sanat Kumara may look through it. We look at it, being aware of its reality. It is spoken of in that most ancient of all mantrams, the Gayatri: "Unveil to us the face of the true spiritual Sun, hidden by a disc of golden light, that we may know the truth".Behind the entire symbol, extending beyond the disc of golden light, emerges the cosmic cross, which is found in the consciousness of the great ones on that distant sun, Sirius. This cosmic cross is the origin of all the cross symbology as perceived and used by humanity down through the ages.
As evolution proceeds, spiritual potencies ebb and flow. In the coming age certain forces are available to Sanat Kumara not formerly at his disposal. This is largely so because he has achieved an expansion of solar consciousness, or, as we might put it, "taken an initiation".(More Sun God Bullshit at Lucis link...  ) |
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Watched Brad Meltzer's Decoded on 2012...mentions "Blue Star" about 50 times. 2012 • Brad Meltzer's Decoded (1 of 4) • January 13th, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5w1EDva2NEAlso, there were several flashes to this...  In part two it almost seems like Brad thinks the world is really about to end. Pretty interesting how all of these 2012 shows have an eye or a triangle inside a circle or mention the Blue Star Spirit. There is also the phrase "New Age" bandied about quite a bit. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 08:56:28 AM » |
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Know where I first heard about Ophiuchus?
The Lost Book of Nostradamus on History Channel. Know where Ophiuchus is?
It's "The Dark Rift"...the center of the Milky Way. It is where the Sun will rise on 12/21/2012...according to the myth-makers.
Of course, the sun has been rising there, on that date, for a very long time.
Do you think maybe Huffington posted articles on Ophiuchus and "Two Suns" as a condition of the sale to AOL?
And how about the recent revelation about another planet "larger than Jupiter" beyond Pluto? No doubt it will be called the "Sun's Dark Twin"...
There is a New Age mythology being constructed for us. Programming...
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2011, 08:19:17 AM » |
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 Tron: LegacyOnce again, we have this symbol appearing in a story that contains familiar themes... Evolution Man becoming God and creating life Genocide Man and Machine mixing to create a more perfect human |
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2011, 07:16:15 AM » |
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Storyline... Club of Rome member and owner of a Monsanto-like company wants to reduce the population. He is trying to put plague DNA into crops. Mentions The Limits to Growth a book commissioned by the Club of Rome that said that population would expand past the ability of the system to support it and result in a massive die off of 90% of the population. The antagonist lives in Oslo, Norway...      "Norway Spiral"(Appeared on front page of Yahoo)December 22, 1972, in Kiel Auditorium, Gena Scott slid down a power cable and unmasked the Prophet, who was Monsanto Company executive vice president Tom K. Smith, according to the St. Louis Journalism Review[4] (though the papers at the time claimed that the unmasking was too brief to allow for identification). Subsequently, Scott's car was bombed, and her apartment vandalized numerous times. The incident is the subject of Lucy Ferriss's memoir, "Unveiling the Prophet"
Pretty interesting thread if for no other reason than to get a glimpse of how Dig's mind works...  http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=186235.0 (Much info on the secret society of The Veiled Prophet) Anybody see Inception? This is the elite seeding an idea, a belief, into your subconscious. BTW...more "New World destroying the Old" propaganda. Planet X... Melancholia Trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xsm46s2Gg |
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have you actually read the book?
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2011, 08:32:43 AM » |
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No...I think it's trash. The action is needlessly detailed and drawn out. My synopsis could be flawed and that's why I made it brief. I've read about 1/4 of it.
My concern is with the massive "coincidence" that when doomsday or population reduction is discussed, on pretty much any level of media, it is almost always accompanied by one(or more) of three symbols...the eye, triangle in circle or spirals. That message almost always includes a rationalization for population reduction that presents a great world afterward. A state of immortality is achieved...the evolved survivors go forward.
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No...I think it's trash. The action is needlessly detailed and drawn out. My synopsis could be flawed and that's why I made it brief. I've read about 1/4 of it.
My concern is with the massive "coincidence" that when doomsday or population reduction is discussed, on pretty much any level of media, it is almost always accompanied by one(or more) of three symbols...the eye, triangle in circle or spirals. That message almost always includes a rationalization for population reduction that presents a great world afterward. A state of immortality is achieved...the evolved survivors go forward.
actually it was a good book. you wont understand most character interactions with out reading the other books. The Historical aspects of the book is spot on, which really deals a great deal with the Black Madonna, and goes into the Celtic uses of the cross and spiral. The book also goes into the seed vault and doomsday scenarios. It has a lot to do with a corporation help bringing about a new world order by unleashing an ancient disease that only they have a cure for. And the disease is transmitted through bees if i remember right. James Rollins books are very similar to the way Michael Crichton wrote his books, a lot of very accurate scientific fact and historical theory with an odd modern twist or setting. |
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2011, 08:57:01 AM » |
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Rollins isn't a bad writer, and I do know some of the back story on Sigma...plus the treacherous nature of Gray and the female assassins relationship.
Just not what I'm into reading...generally.
Reminded me more of Dan Brown than Crichton.
What's the ultimate significance of the spiral in the book?
What's the Black Madonna? Don't be shy, I need some inspiration to keep me interested in reading it...
Give a spoiler alert if necessary...
I agree that it is very thoroughly researched, btw...and, I tend to think that Rollins is warning his readers, which is similar to Crichton.
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If i remember right, the spiral in the book was used to mark the crosses that lead to tombs that dealt with the Celtic Mythology he built in the story. He did go into the history and occultic uses and meaning's in explaining the spiral as it has been used in every culture that has ever existed on the planet and is seen in all of nature, yet im sure you are aware of all of this.  The Black Madonna is another form of Goddess worship that is found all over the world. In the book he use's it as the back drop of the plot. all and all it was a great book just for all that odd history. especially the parts about all the peat bogs in Ireland and Brittan and Scotland. Never knew any of that stuff. |
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2011, 09:27:36 AM » |
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Many of the ancient symbols have been corrupted recently.
The spiral is, as Kilgore loves to point out, an "archetypal" image.
It is prevalent, and what better reason to associate it with fear and death...then it's prevalence has a use.
I have to travel to a wedding this summer...I'll try to give it a serious read then...the storyline is quite interesting, obviously.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqqiLI0l4X4Corporate logos and Freemasonry (Freeman perspective) - part 1
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Ezekiel 33:25
"Therefore say to them, ‘Thus says Yahweh Elohim,
“You eat meat with the blood in it, lift up your eyes to your idols as you shed blood. Should you then possess the land?"
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Many of the ancient symbols have been corrupted recently.
The spiral is, as Kilgore loves to point out, an "archetypal" image.
It is prevalent, and what better reason to associate it with fear and death...then it's prevalence has a use.
I have to travel to a wedding this summer...I'll try to give it a serious read then...the storyline is quite interesting, obviously.
The spiral is also a symbol of growth , life and so on. The spiral can also be found in the most basic forms of life , Fibonacci sequence can be made into a spiral through the maths... |
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2011, 08:23:54 AM » |
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It is more often used to represent turmoil or chaos.
There are those who believe chaos brings order...
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Lost is one of my all-time favorite TV shows...but, it is also an excellent example of what I have been talking about. It's religious programming. The "Christian Shepherd" is dead. The new Shepherd is a "Man of Science"...the first episode in season 2 is titled "Man of Science, Man of Faith". While "Man of Science, Man of Faith" alludes to a quote in the previous episode where Locke describes himself as a man of faith and Jack as a man of science, writer Damon Lindelof stated that the episode has the title to imply that Jack is both, with the flashback making the empiricist "man of science" facing a miracle while treating a patient. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_Science,_Man_of_FaithMiracles becoming the territory of science. The writer is admitting that this concept was intentionally put into the episode. Science is the new religion. If you watch 2001 and 2010 you see aliens doing the work of God...creating and evolving life. The monolith is a piece of alien tech. What does Dr. Manhattan say at the end of Watchmen? Something about going and creating some life of his own... Staying on the riff of science becoming spirituality, let's consider how many paranormal science shows are on TV. Ghost Hunters has how many spinoffs? Ghost Adventures, Ghost Lab, Paranormal State...people going around with high tech equipment and trying to find "scientific" evidence of paranormal activity. All of these shows have run for multiple seasons. Back to Watchmen and 2010...Two suns. This crap is now in the MSM in multiple forms... Two Suns Setting? Scientists Offer Explanations of Chinese Videohttp://abcnews.go.com/Technology/suns-setting-double-sun-video-china-viral-web/story?id=13076753Two Suns? Twin Stars Could Be Visible From Earth By 2012http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/20/two-suns-twin-stars_n_811864.htmlConsider the second article about Betelgeuse going supernova... If it happened and there was suddenly a "second sun" how would people view that? Would it be an impressive piece of "prophecy" for science? Would some people see it as the star of the new Messiah or even Ben Creme's Maitreya? It could be used to serve a lot of different agendas. Many people believe that Watchmen is based on Project Bluebeam, an alien invasion hoax to scare the world into accepting a World Government serviced by large corporate interests. I personally have never seen Project Bluebeam as very realistic. The documents themselves are of questionable background and who is really going to believe a big hologram of "the messiah of your choice" or a big alien invasion? But, I do see one potentially useful idea that isn't often discussed...what if the "Blue Beam" was used to put a Blue Star in the sky where Betelgeuse should be? Does this sound ridiculous? It's already been done using a very small laser...telescopes could be used to see the artificial star. Man-made Star Shines in the Southern Skyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxelYpoYpzAThis was a 4 watt laser...what could be done with kilowatts? A "blue star" would fulfill a lot of different "prophecies" and religious beliefs. I'm not making any predictions, I don't know that anyone would try this. My point is that it is technologically possible to do, and the ideas would seem to have been programmed into the masses through popular culture. I wouldn't doubt that this could be used like some form of "emergency brake" the elite can put on the global revolt. The ultimate distraction. But, even if none of it came to fruition, the programming still leads to an overall belief that a "new age" is imminent. The idea of aliens being gods and that we are evolving into gods is ubiquitous in the popular culture. At the end of Nostradamus 2012 Druid Priest, Vincent Bridges says... I really don't think there will be any great shift on the morning of December twenty-first, 2012. UFOs won't land, the comet won't hit that morning, but it'll be a point in which, looking back, we can all say, "Oh yeah, that's when it all ended, that was the year in which the new Rome fell and the United States transformed itself..." See, these people don't believe something is really going to happen in 2012, they are more concerned with selling you on their spiritual beliefs. That is what 2012, UFOs/Ancient Aliens, Ghost Hunters and a multitude of TV shows, movies, books, comics and video games . Just go checkout the "Teenage Paranormal" section at Barnes and Noble. One movie I didn't even mention in this post is the latest Tron movie. Kevin Flynn is the same as Dr. Manhattan. He turned himself into energy and created a world and a new life-form. He is often at war with himself, and allows things that seem horrific because it seems to serve a greater good. But, I could also break down the interesting connections between Call of Duty Black Ops and Lost...the eye, numbers, disjointed time, saving the world, etc. Just a few things I've been thinking about while at work...
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5/12/2011 -- URGENT !! NILU - Norsk Institute = ZARDOZ = radiation @ VERY HIGH levelshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haMePBnkJhYInteresting...I mentioned Zardoz in the original thread. There are single eyes everywhere in this film. In fact, the eye seems to be a tool of mind control, in the film.  WI ZARD OF OZ...ZARDOZ
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Opening scene from episode 9 of Battlestar Galactica. Genocide Evolution Astrology/precession of equinoxes More apocalyptic programming cut from an (artificially) established "meme"(a term coined by Richard Dawkins...coincidentally?) |
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Black Madonna of Częstochowa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Madonna_of_Cz%C4%99stochowaA Black Madonna or Black Virgin is a statue or painting of Mary in which she is depicted with dark or black skin, especially those created in Europe in the medieval period or earlier. In this specialized sense "Black Madonna" does not apply to images of the Virgin Mary portrayed as explicitly black African, which are popular in Africa and areas with large black populations, such as Brazil and the United States. Some statues get their color from the material used, such as ebony or other dark wood, but there is debate about whether this choice of material is significant. Others were originally light-skinned but have become darkened over time, for example by candle soot. This is generally thought to be the explanation for most medieval "black" images of Mary, but this theory has been contested by those who believe that the color of originally-dark Madonnas had some esoteric significance. The Black Madonnas are generally found in Catholic areas. The statues are mostly wooden but occasionally stone, often painted and up to 75 cm tall, generally dating from between the 11th and 15th centuries. They fall into two main groups: free-standing upright figures and seated figures on a throne. The pictures are usually icons which are Byzantine in style, often made in 13th or 14th century Italy. Their faces tend to have recognizably European features. There are about 450-500 Black Madonnas in Europe, depending on how they are classified. There are at least 180 Vierges Noires in France, and there are hundreds of non-medieval copies as well. Some are in museums, but most are in churches or shrines and are venerated by devotees. A few are associated with miracles and attract substantial numbers of pilgrims. [edit] Theories about the Black Madonnas The Black Virgin of Montserrat: a copy at Barcelona Cathedral Interest in studying Black Madonnas revived in the late 20th century. Some scholars of comparative religion, particularly those with Afrocentrist, feminist, or neo-pagan backgrounds, have suggested that Black Madonnas are descendants of pre-Christian mother or earth goddesses (Moss, Benko), often highlighting Isis as the key ancestor-goddess (Redd, McKinney-Johnson). Some psychologists have discussed maternal and female archetypes, often from a Jungian perspective, as well as themes of feminine power, as they find them expressed in the Black Madonnas (Gustafson, Begg). Although these approaches have stimulated some academic interest, they do not represent the well-established consensus about medieval motives for carving or painting Black Madonnas. A link between the Black Madonnas of the European Middle Ages and ancient pagan traditions and representations has been asserted typologically despite the absence of evidence of any direct historical or artistic influences. Although no direct Catholic theological sources exist, it has also been suggested by some authors that the medieval veneration of Black Madonnas was in response to a line from the Song of Songs 1:5 in the Old Testament: "I am black And Beautiful, O daughters of Jerusalem, ..." These words are discussed at length in the sermons of St Bernard of Clairvaux, although he uses them to refer not to Mary but to the Catholic Church.[1] Several surviving Black Madonnas are inscribed with these words, although in at least some cases the inscriptions were added at a later date. Those writers who present esoteric interpretations of the Black Madonnas usually include some combination of the following elements: * Some[who?] claim that Black Madonnas grew out of pre-Christian earth goddess traditions. Their dark skin may be associated with ancient images of these goddesses, and with the color of fertile earth. They are sometimes associated with stories of being found by chance in a natural setting: in a tree or by a spring, for example. It is further asserted that some of their Christian shrines are located on the sites of earlier temples to Cybele and Diana of Ephesus. * Some[who?] claim that Black Madonnas derive from the Egyptian goddess Isis. The dark skin may echo an African archetypal mother figure. Professor Stephen Benko claims that early Christian pictures of a seated mother and child were influenced by images of Isis and Horus. He further asserts that the slashes on the cheek of the Black Madonna of Częstochowa represent the markings of the Eye of Horus. * Some[2] claim that the Black Madonnas portray the original skin tone of the Virgin Mary, thus placing the figures in apt historical contexts, as Jesus' family was more likely than not to have Semitic colors and features. * Some[who?] claim that Black Madonnas express a feminine power that is not fully conveyed by a pale-skinned Mary, whom they assert symbolizes gentler qualities like obedience and purity. The "feminine power" approach is sometimes linked to female sexuality, which was allegedly repressed by the medieval Church. * Some[who?] claim an association between Black Madonnas, the Templars and St. Bernard of Clairvaux. Ean Begg suggests they were revered by an esoteric cult with Templar and Cathar links, but this idea is dismissed by most historians, who also reject stories of connections with Mary Magdalene and Gnosticism. You can read more, as well as see paintings of The Black Madonna at the above link. |
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« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2011, 10:24:07 AM » |
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Part 1 of 25 - The Legend of Atlantis - It´s Time to Wake Uphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSAGv4kUgk&feature=relatedHere it is...watch the first episode and tell me that this isn't the story I have been pointing out in TV shows, movies, books and even in mainstream news. Aliens are our "Gods" and created us We will evolve into Gods We must experience everything, therefore anything is permissible I'll have more comments on this after I get a chance to watch the entire thing...
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2011, 09:00:38 AM » |
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Thats called the new-age religion.
Yes it is. What's funny is that it's members think there's a difference between that and other religions. Many of them mock you for what you believe, and when I point out aspects of this they try to throw me in the same bag. The Battlestar Galactica remake is probably the best example I have found of religious programming being slipped into a mainstream TV show...beside Lost, of course. It really made me understand that these people think that they are the "Hand of God". They think that the Gods have used cataclysms to evolve humans. The flood, a supervolcano 70,000 years ago...just go watch Season 2, Episode 9 of Ancient Aliens titled Alien Devastations. You can see David Wilcock talking about it. And, this is the core of their rationalization for exterminating the majority of us...they think they can evolve themselv es and play God by creating their own pestilence. Isn't it interesting that these "New Age" religious ideas dominate the primetime hours, while traditional religion gets almost no play at those times? |
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2011, 09:22:58 AM » |
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It doesn't surprise me at all. In fact its way bigger than you think. Even the Catholic church and Islam is starting to adopt new-age beliefs and teachings, well the Catholics have always had them just under different names. But now its just coming out in the open. Marilyn Fergusons book the The Aquarian Conspiracy documents all of this and shows just how interconnected the new-age is and you would never know it. Its every where in everything and in my belief is the end times religion as it encompasses all beliefs but 1.
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« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2011, 06:44:34 AM » |
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"Doomsday Plane" Would Save President and Joint Chiefs in Apocalypse Scenariohttp://abcnews.go.com/US/doomsday-plane-save-president-joint-chiefs-apocalypse-scenario/story?id=13782736 ABC World News w/ Diane Sawyer By MICHAEL MURRAY June 7, 2011 In the event of nuclear war, a powerful meteor strike or even a zombie apocalypse, the thoroughly protected doomsday plane is ready to keep the president, secretary of defense, Joint Chiefs of Staff and other key personnel in the air and out of danger. It may not deflect a Twitter photo scandal, but it can outrun a nuclear explosion and stay in the air for days without refueling. The flight team for the E-4B, its military codename, sleeps nearby and is ready to scramble in five minutes. It was mobilized in the tumultuous hours after planes crashed into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and southern Pennsylvania on 9/11. "If the command centers that are on the ground in the United States have a failure of some sort, or attack, we immediately get airborne. We're on alert 24/7, 365," Captain W. Scott "Easy" Ryder, Commander, NAOC, told ABC News' Diane Sawyer as she traveled to Afghanistan with Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on the apocalypse-proof plane. "Constantly there's at least one alert airplane waiting to get airborne." _____________________ Your random bit of Apocalyptic Programming compliments of ABC...
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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2011, 10:46:01 AM » |
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The Hebrew word for "angel" is "malach" which means messenger. The aliens in Knowing are messengers whose message can only be heard by the children. I find it interesting that the final scene of Knowing is the "Tree of Life". In Jewish Kabbalah the tree of life represents something different... Interestingly enough the Kabbalah Tree of Life symbol is flashed in Nostradamus 2012... In his excellent analysis of the inconsistencies in the Columbine Official Story, Evan Long points out that the black trenchcoat phenomena was a national trend that was supported by the mainstream media and popular culture. He also links the Columbine event to Satanism/Luciferianism... Columbine Shooting: The Columbine Cause (1 of 16 - Opening) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UhqhUQJzx4 |
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« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2011, 05:10:21 PM » |
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 Anybody want to argue with me some more about the title of the original thread?Interesting "thread" but it can't be a thread if there is no discussion. Interesting "cult" but it cannot be a cult unless it has temples and priests. (soulless "corporate" form) While our nobles and monarchist warlords have surely adopted (jealously always attempted to pervert or subvert) it, there is more than adequate evidence to assure us all that it does not and could not "belong" to anyone in particular, moreso than to any other "owner" nor "inheritor". It is the legacy of the loving family of all of humanities honest search for the basic definition of our truly constructive moral character and universe, that of our legacy of All Loves Themselves, Itself Kings of "kings"  indeed... We have so easily all learned of how to destroy, but can and will we ever be as willing to learn how to create? It is a perceptual question of faith, hope, charity and balance.
Willful Fvcking Ignorance...backed up by an endless stream of bullshit.
Peter Joseph is just one of the priests of this cult...
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« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2011, 11:24:33 AM » |
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In the original thread I marked Buzz Aldrin as another High Priest of the Sun Cult...along with Arthur C Clarke. Went and saw Transformers: Dark of the Moon last night. Now, it goes without saying that the heroes in Transformer films are always saving the entire planet. The earth and humanity are always under threat of destruction by alien robots named Decepticons. And, as any follower of this thread and the previous one knows, I found this psyop/programming by looking into the hype around 2012. My theory has been that films and TV shows about planetary destruction are carriers for a different message. 2001/2010, Watchmen, The Day The Earth Stood Still, Knowing, Star Trek, Zeitgeist, Lost, V, Flash Forward and even Clarke's book Childhood's End all have some of the same underlying themes...Apollo, order out of chaos, evolution and new eras or ages. They often flash certain "gang signs" to signify that they are related...the triangle in circle and the single eye which are both metaphors for the sun(one rising behind a pyramid the other looking down on us). The rising sun is another symbol frequently associated with this kind of religious programming. And, another symbol frequently used by these people are spirals(often cast in blue). The real Buzz Aldrin makes an appearance, some of you might remember Alex interviewing Buzz and the guy brought up everything from evolution to ancient Egypt and what he called a "monolith" on one of Jupiter's moons. The book he was promoting was Magnificent Desolation. The guy's a zealot. There is a scene where one of the characters says "Apollo" in the most adoring fashion you can imagine...ah, the reverence. Also, there are several blue spirals shown...which represent a form of teleportation, which brings Cybertron(home world of the Transformers) close to earth. Bringing Gods into this realm is an important idea...they want to bring Apollo/Apollyon(The Destroyer) to this realm of existence. Now bear in mind what I have told you about 2001: a space odyssey, The Sentinel and Childhood's End by Arthur C Clarke. 2001 is an expansion of the story The Sentinel which Clarke first published around 1952. In that story, human explorers on the moon find a device...the sentinel. It is a pyramid inside a spherical force field...triangle inside a circle. The narrator believes it was left by ancient aliens to alert them when humans reach this step in evolution where they first become "space-farers" (as Buzz Aldrin refers to himself and Optimus Prime). One year later, Clarke wrote a novel where ancient aliens arrive just as humanity is reaching a new step in evolution. These aliens are called "Overlords" because they take complete control of our society for our own good. They bring a "Golden Age" to earth and humanity...they also happen to look exactly like Lucifer. So, what do a young Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong find on the moon? A ship belonging to a Transformer named Sentinel Prime. Sentinel Prime uses a technology to bring other Decepticons to earth...an invasion force that begins attacking Chicago. Sentinel Prime makes several declarations to Optimus Prime saying "We were Gods!" The alien God come to earth...isn't that the story that Zecharia Sitchin is selling? Ancient Aliens on History...Richard Dawkins in his debate with Ben Stein. 2001 has alien gods...who left the monolith/sentinels to be found? |
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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2011, 03:31:18 PM » |
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Alright, it's about time we confront this thing head on. In this article, MSNBC offers an "official" explanation which is pretty much the explanation I expected after watching the You Tube video in a blog from Yahoo yesterday. It's kind of obvious that the camera taking the pictures is computer filtered. But, the article I read, was headlined at Yahoo yesterday and the featured blog entry had no answers for what the image might be. Go back through this thread and look at some of the Yahoo front page images screen shots I have posted of UFOs over China airports and time traveling transvestites. UFOs are the greatest conspiracy NEVER denied...I have pointed it out many times, but the History Channel won't show you WTC 7 collapsing, but they'll tell you all about UFOs, aliens and 2012. And, it's not just the Hearst Channel... Larry King Live on UFO's - July 2007http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2eoCqwBCQIRoswell Alien Crash Uncovered New Evidence Pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EavBb2rcJ5sPeter Jennings Reporting_ Phoenix UFO sighting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bFTUYzekwM1973 UFO News Report With CBS Walter Cronkite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTKCPwEmi-4Get my point? Here's another way to explain it...I have a good friend who was recently telling me why he doesn't believe in God, and most of it was due to things he had seen about UFOs. In particular, Ancient Aliens: The Series on History Channel. As he talked, I could pick out things I have heard from David Wilcock, John Major Jenkins, Zacharia Sitchin, Erik Von Daniken, Greg Braden and many others. And, he totally believes that he arrived at these conclusions himself. Very similar to how people accepted global warming. UFOs are a deception. The best evidence only points towards exotic vehicles...there is no conclusive evidence of extra terrestrial pilots. And, that is the purpose "Ancient Aliens" and "Ancient Astronaut" theorists serve. When you point out that no one has recorded an alien, they always change the conversation to evidence of flying objects before humans could fly. Their best evidence comes from a book that features angels, gods, demons and the devil. Then there is the evidence in art, but you never see a history of the ownership of the piece.
Illuminati Satanic 2012+ UFO event, Bill Cooper and silenced NWO researchershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyuyeIVbwOMTo be continued... |
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