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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 10:36:06 AM »
This will be interesting.  If you believe the MSM, (and why would you?), Senator Paul refused to be patted down at the Nashville airport.
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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 10:37:24 AM »
Detained?  That's like arrested, right?  Given the way people hate the bureaucracy, this could only rebound to RP's advantage in the presidential race.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 10:38:01 AM »


  LOL  He's a terrorist.  He's got truth in his briefcase.  Probably a pocket Constitution.
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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 10:47:11 AM »
Maybe they're doing this to build Ron Paul up to, in turn, know who to go after.  Just a thought.
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*Breaking News* TSA detains Sen. Rand Paul in Nashville
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 10:49:01 AM »
January 23, 2012
TSA detains Sen. Rand Paul in Nashville

Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul’s press secretary Moira Bagley tweeted on Monday that Transportation Security Administration officials were detaining her boss in Nashville, Tenn.

“Just got a call from @senrandpaul,” Bagley tweeted at about 10 a.m. on Monday. “He’s currently being detained by TSA in Nashville.”

Bagley hasn’t immediately responded to The Daily Caller’s request for comment for more details.

Texas Congressman and current Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul – Sen. Rand Paul’s father – placed a post on Facebook about the news as well. “My son Rand is currently being detained by the TSA at the Nashville Airport,” Ron Paul posted. “I’ll share more details as the situation unfolds.”

Sen. Rand Paul’s Facebook page has a post about the incident too. “Senator Paul is being detained at the Nashville Airport by the TSA,” Sen. Rand Paul’s Facebook post reads. “We will update you as the situation develops.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/23/report-tsa-detains-sen-rand-paul-in-nashville/#ixzz1kITPiFAs


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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 10:51:10 AM »
http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1796&Itemid=60

Introducing the American Traveler Dignity Act

Mr. Speaker, today I introduce legislation to protect Americans from physical and emotional abuse by federal Transportation Security Administration employees conducting screenings at the nation’s airports. We have seen the videos of terrified children being grabbed and probed by airport screeners. We have read the stories of Americans being subjected to humiliating body imaging machines and/or forced to have the most intimate parts of their bodies poked and fondled. We do not know the potentially harmful effects of the radiation emitted by the new millimeter wave machines.

In one recent well-publicized case, a TSA official is recorded during an attempted body search saying, “By buying your ticket you gave up a lot of rights.” I strongly disagree and am sure I am not alone in believing that we Americans should never give up our rights in order to travel. As our Declaration of Independence states, our rights are inalienable. This TSA version of our rights looks more like the “rights” granted in the old Soviet Constitutions, where freedoms were granted to Soviet citizens -- right up to the moment the state decided to remove those freedoms.

The incident of the so-called “underwear bomber” last Christmas is given as justification for the billions of dollars the federal government is spending on the new full-body imaging machines, but a Government Accountability Office study earlier this year concluded that had these scanners been in use they may not have detected the explosive material that was allegedly brought onto the airplane. Additionally, there have been recent press reports calling into question the accuracy and adequacy of these potentially dangerous machines.

My legislation is simple. It establishes that airport security screeners are not immune from any US law regarding physical contact with another person, making images of another person, or causing physical harm through the use of radiation-emitting machinery on another person. It means they are subject to the same laws as the rest of us.

Imagine if the political elites in our country were forced to endure the same conditions at the airport as business travelers, families, senior citizens, and the rest of us. Perhaps this problem could be quickly resolved if every cabinet secretary, every Member of Congress, and every department head in the Obama administration were forced to submit to the same degrading screening process as the people who pay their salaries.

I warned at the time of the creation of the TSA that an unaccountable government entity in control of airport security would provide neither security nor defend our basic freedom to travel. Yet the vast majority of both Republicans and Democrats then in Congress willingly voted to create another unaccountable, bullying agency--in a simple-minded and unprincipled attempt to appease public passion in the wake of 9-11.  Sadly, as we see with the steady TSA encroachment on our freedom and dignity, my fears in 2001 were justified.

The solution to the need for security at US airports is not a government bureaucracy. The solution is to allow the private sector, preferably the airlines themselves, to provide for the security of their property. As a recent article in Forbes magazine eloquently stated, “The airlines have enormous sums of money riding on passenger safety, and the notion that a government bureaucracy has better incentives to provide safe travels than airlines with billions of dollars worth of capital and goodwill on the line strains credibility.” In the meantime, I hope we can pass this legislation and protect Americans from harm and humiliation when they choose to travel.
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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2012, 10:59:36 AM »
or, they are so filled with chutzpah that they're sending a message that they are in control, and they are testing the kind of reaction, esp from his supporters, for when they launch the Iranian thermonuclear war and simultaneously activate FEMA's domestic operation to round up red listed terrorists, starting with those who are the most prominent opponents of the war..
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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2012, 11:05:04 AM »
TSA employees have to be the stupidest people on earth. If they had even an ounce of integrity, they would have quit that job long ago. This means we have only idiots in these positions, who haven't a clue they are contributing to their own families loss of FREEDOM by engaging in this activity. WHAT FOOLS!

If there were real terrorists (IMO, The War on Terror is a front for NWO agenda) they would not be harassing people who they know are okay (or should know) and who most have seen in the media repeatedly. Wasting time on good people, takes their focus off of a potentially bad person (if you believe the lies about a terrorist on every corner). This proves the whole thing is a lie, and those stupid people can't figure that out? Just amazing!


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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2012, 11:13:27 AM »
Rand Paul in Pat-Down Standoff With TSA in Nashville
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/rand-paul-in-pat-down-standoff-with-tsa-in-nashville/
Jan 23, 2012 10:33am

Sen. Rand Paul told his communications director this morning he was being detained by TSA at the Nashville airport.

The Twitter account associated with Paul staffer Moira Bagley, @moirabagley, tweeted around 10 a.m., ET, “Just got a call from @senrandpaul. He’s currently being detained by TSA in Nashville.”

A TSA spokesman said the agency was looking into the matter but could not immediately comment.

Paul apparently set off  an airport security full-body scanner “on a glitch,” a spokesman in Paul’s office told ABC News.

The Paul staffer said TSA agents would not let Paul walk back through the body scanner and were demanding a full body pat-down.

The Paul spokesman said his office called TSA administrator John Pistole about the incident this morning.

The Senate is back in session today at 2 p.m., with votes scheduled at 4:30 p.m.

The issue of pat-downs has been an important one to Paul, the son of libertarian-leaning Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul. Sen.  Paul brought this issue up at a hearing earlier this year.


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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2012, 11:14:50 AM »
Debate tonight. Think they'll bring it up?

and MIAC?
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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2012, 11:21:10 AM »
Debate tonight. Think they'll bring it up?

and MIAC?


I hope Ron Paul mentions it. There is no call for this happening!
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2012, 11:39:11 AM »
Section 6 of the US Constitution:

Clause 1: The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. (See Note 6) They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2012, 11:57:40 AM »
My question has always been -- when they are committing treason on the congressional or senate floor by voting in unconstitutional legislation like NDAA  -- why are they not arrested on the spot?

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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 12:13:23 PM »
I can't believe he went through the radiation scan!!!!   :o

What was he thinking???
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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 12:31:31 PM »
We're getting so much radiation from nuclear fallout, we all need to:

take epsom salt & baking soda baths (last I heard, add food grade peroxide & vinegar too)
take anti-cancer action: broccomax, raw fruit juicing, eat organically, etc.
iodine therapy

But, most-of-all we must get it all to stop -- including TSA grope 'n nuke

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 12:32:46 PM »
I can't believe he went through the radiation scan!!!!   :o

What was he thinking???

Exactly! That in and of itself is cause for concern more than the patdown, IMO. Unless the groping is very invasive then the bacteria-infested gloves can rival the harmful effects of radiation, psychological effects aside.
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 02:00:25 PM »
The line is drawn in the sand.
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 02:56:17 PM »
Absolutely the line was drawn in the sand--and Rand won!!!  He refused to be groped and they didn't touch him.  He was free to go and book another ticket and went through the scanner just fine.  My personal opinion is that TSA did this on purpose to threaten and intimidate.

At least they let him go. If it had of been you or I, they would have called the police and we would not have been allowed to leave the area. 

I sure do hope Ron Paul brings this up.  NO ONE likes the TSA. Read the comments after the news articles, 90% are against it and not happy that they did this to Rand. 

I'm just really glad we have some honest senators who are not going to be pushed around on this.

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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2012, 03:21:08 PM »
Absolutely the line was drawn in the sand--and Rand won!!!  He refused to be groped and they didn't touch him.  He was free to go and book another ticket and went through the scanner just fine.  My personal opinion is that TSA did this on purpose to threaten and intimidate.

At least they let him go. If it had of been you or I, they would have called the police and we would not have been allowed to leave the area. 

I sure do hope Ron Paul brings this up.  NO ONE likes the TSA. Read the comments after the news articles, 90% are against it and not happy that they did this to Rand. 

I'm just really glad we have some honest senators who are not going to be pushed around on this.


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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2012, 04:47:21 PM »
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sen-rand-paul-detained-tsa-refusing-full-body-pat-down-dad-tweets-article-1.1010400?localLinksEnabled=false

Unbelievable.  If this isn't showing your cards by these idiot 'Elite'; I don't know what is.

And - on the radio here locally - story broke that 'White House backs the decisions of the TSA' - you've gotta be kidding.

Hey 'Elitists' - I tell you what.  I am a child of the Cold War.  You want to behave like Communists; it is high time that you be treated like a Communist.

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2012, 04:56:33 PM »
And I would add, "if you want to behave like communists....go to China or some other communist country and enjoy your life. LEAVE US ALONE with our freedoms and constitution here.  

Rand tells more in detail what happened here:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/23/rand-paul-on-tsa-detainment-i-was-barked-at-do-not-leave-the-cubicle/

“It was a big headache,” Paul said in a phone interview. “I missed my speech here. I was supposed to speak to the Right to Life March, probably the biggest audience I’ll get to speak to, and I missed it.”

The White House, through spokesman Jay Carney, defended the TSA’s actions during Monday’s press briefing by arguing that Paul wasn’t technically “detained.”

“Let’s be clear,” Carney said. “The passenger was not detained. He was escorted out of the area by local law-enforcement.”

But Sen. Paul told TheDC that he certainly felt like he was detained. “If you’re told you can’t leave, does that count as detention?” Paul asked.

“I tried to leave the cubicle to speak to one of the TSA people and I was barked at: ‘Do not leave the cubicle!’ So, that, to me sounds like I’m being asked not to leave the cubicle. It sounds a little bit like I’m being detained.”

The incident started after the scanner Paul walked through sounded its alarm. Current TSA rules would require Paul to undergo a mandatory pat-down before proceeding to his plane. But Paul told TheDC that the TSA agents caved in after a two-hour battle and allowed him to go through the scanner again without additional physical screening.

“For an hour and a half, they said ‘absolutely, I would have to [accept a pat-down],’” Paul said. “And, because I used my cell phone, they told me I would have to do a full body pat down because you’re not allowed to use your cell phone when you’re being detained.”

“It’s like, well, I can’t call my attorney? I can’t call my office to tell them I’m going to miss a speech to 200,000 people?”

“In the end, after two hours of this quarreling,” Sen. Paul explained, “they did let me walk through the screener [machine] and it didn’t go off. So what the TSA is not telling you is the screeners are being used as random devices as well. The [mechanical] screeners will go off randomly, and the [agent] screeners don’t know that it’s a random call but it has nothing to do with what you’ve done.”

Read more at the link above.

The thing is this--in this article it is proven the SCANNER GOES OFF RANDOMLY....probably to keep TSA busy with their groping techniques.  Rand proved it because HE WON and he went through the scanner again but NOTHING WENT OFF.

What does that tell you?  The scanner is obviously programmed to go off AUTOMATICALLY even if there was nothing you did to make it go off.  HOW SICK IS THAT?

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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2012, 05:15:52 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2012, 05:27:25 PM »
And - on the radio here locally - story broke that 'White House backs the decisions of the TSA' - you've gotta be kidding.

Breaking news: White House ignores the constitution for the quadrillionth time.

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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2012, 07:13:53 PM »
Rand needs those, how to videos, with police. Simple question, Am I being detained or am I free to go? If I'm being detained I'm going to sue you in a Constitutional court, if I am free to go, well then, good day.
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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2012, 07:24:36 PM »
Also, not only can the metal scanners go off randomly but they can shut them off. Last year, before I boycotted flying, the last time I flew, I walked through a scanner at JFK, and set it off. I always set it off because of a titanium plate in my leg. I was asked to go sit in a cubical for further screening, as normal, I would just get a wanding and would be on my way. In the cubical with me was some foreigner and he was pacing back and forth. A TSA agent came by and asked me what I was doing in the cubical and I told him I always set off the machine because of the plate in my leg. He said, so your used to this, yes was my reply. He then motions over at the other guy in the cubical and whispers to me, can you believe that guy. At this point the guy was making a spectacle of himself grabbing the top of the wall and trying to yell to his family in whatever language he spoke. The TSA saw my family waiting, my wife and kids and then told me to go back through the scanner, I got up and went back through and it didn't go off. He says, look at that, it didn't go off, you're free to go.

This is one of my many experiences with security theater, involving me, my wife or my kids. It is always something different and absurd.
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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2012, 07:45:25 PM »
  TSA should do this to Hillary and her mates and watch the sparks fly.

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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2012, 09:13:52 PM »
BTW, there is a GOP debate on right now on NBC.

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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2012, 11:28:22 PM »
I guess it is over now - how'd it go?
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« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2012, 12:18:01 AM »
Section 6 of the US Constitution:

Clause 1: The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. (See Note 6) They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.


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Re: Rand Paul being detained by TSA in Nashville
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2012, 10:27:52 AM »
When Obama says he's a Constitutional Attorney -

This is White House Speak for 'if it doesn't say I can't do it - means I can do it'.

Geez.  Can't someone point out the above post? 

AMERICA - DON'T FLY FOR ONE DAY.  THE TSA WILL GO AWAY IF WE ALL WILL NOT FLY FOR JUST ONE DAY.
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