WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?

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WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« on: January 09, 2012, 12:40:48 am »
WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd520.htm

By: Devvy
January 7, 2012
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The worn out race card has been used by the sycophants who support Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro aka Barry Dunham aka Barack Dunham to crush any discussion regarding his eligibility. Race baiters in the corrupt, disgraced media who wear their socialist ideology like a badge of honor continue to chant "birthers" are all racists because Obama/Soetoro is black. They conveniently forget Barry's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham was white. The correct racial definition is half Caucasian, half Negro. But, none of that matters to the gangsters who prop up Soetoro or the useful fools who proclaim his brilliance.

Nor do any of the liars for hire in the media playing the race card ever bring up the very first ballot challenge in 2008. Leo Donofrio, an attorney in New Jersey, raised the first concerns regarding citizenship when he filed to keep Obama/Soetoro off the ballot. The other two candidates in Leo's case were John McCain and a foreign national who was obviously ineligible. No mention is ever made of Leo's case against McCain not being constitutionally eligible.

Was this challenge to Obama/Soetoro's citizenship unanticipated? I don't believe so. Leo filed his papers in October 2008; you can view all of them here.
http://blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/myimages/slideshow2141.image18543.html
The powers behind the scenes began to grease the wheels shortly after Soetoro became a state senator in Illinois. By February 2008, chicanery was underway as this relatively unknown with no paper trail to his life makes a bid for the White House. There were obviously people with a lot at stake who knew there was a problem with Barry's citizenship and tried to cut it off before it became an issue:

http://www.usobserver.com/archive/april-11/devvy.html

In February 2008, Democrats (and one Republican) began pushing legislation on the issue of citizenship:

http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=25527.0

    "...on February 28, 2008, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a bill to the Senate for consideration. That bill was known as S. 2678: Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act. The bill was co-sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), and Sen. Thomas Coburn (R-OK).

    "Bill S. 2678 attempted to change article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a “natural born citizen” and hence; the entitlement to run for President of the United States. This bill met the same fate that similar attempts to change the Constitution have in the past. Attempts such as The Natural Born Citizen Act were known to have failed and the text scrubbed from the internet, with only a shadow-cached copy left, that only the most curious public can find....

    "Within only five short weeks after Senate Bill 2678 faded from the floor, we find Sen. Claire McCaskill back again, making another attempt with Senate Resolution 511. On April 10, 2008, she introduced a secondary proposal in the form of a non-binding resolution, recognizing John McCain as a “natural born citizen” in defiance of the Constitution. Curiously, it contained the same identical co-sponsors, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

    "One has to wonder — what dire urgency could there possibly have been in persisting with trying to legislate a candidate into being a “natural born citizen”? Certainly providing a birth certificate and reading the Constitution would be more than sufficient. Why did these candidates and their wishful nominees go to such lengths in the Senate when obviously, they had more pressing matters to attend to? And why were there two Senators co-sponsoring such an issue, twice, who were in direct competition with John McCain in the 2008 election?"

http://blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/myimages/slideshow2141.image18543.html

McCain was drug into the conspiracy so everyone looked fair: What is good for a RINO is good for whatever his real name is.

If you read Leo's documents, he addresses the issue of McCain's ineligibility; see this page.

http://blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/myimages/slideshow2141.image18543.html

The U.S. Supreme Court refused to grant an oral hearing on Leo's case. An endless stream of lawsuits have followed over the years. Of course, none of this would have happened had the Outlaw Congress done their job, January 9, 2009 and stopped the electoral college vote. The controversy was raging full steam by then regarding Obama/Soetoro's constitutional eligibility, yet not one member of Congress, not Michelle Bachmann, not Ron Paul, not one single member of Congress had the courage to stand up, invoke house rules and begin a legitimate investigation.

There will be a hearing, January 26, 2012, in the State of Georgia to keep the usurper off the ballot. The plaintiffs have won the first round: Judge Malihi refused Obama's Motion to Dismiss. We shall see if he has the courage to do what will send shock waves throughout the world: If Soetoro isn't constitutionally eligible now, he wasn't in 2008. Translated: the Oval Office has been empty since George Bush left. Usurper means someone who has usurped the office, but does not legally occupy it. Soetoro cannot be impeached. I sincerely wish people would understand that if a successful impeachment happened, it would set one of the worst legal precedents in our history.

I have no candidate preference for president in 2012, so there is absolutely no bias on my part in bringing up the problem with Mitt Romney. As an old warrior activist going on 21 years, I know what they all stand for and what they won't stand up for. Constitutional eligibility doesn't have anything to do with political party loyalty. It has to do with the supreme law of the land and upholding the law so our republic doesn't turn into complete lawlessness and anarchy.

Any candidate, Republican, Democrat, Green Party, Independent Party, Libertarian Party, Constitution Party - you name it - cannot expect to put a candidate on the ballot for president if that candidate isn't eligible under the Constitution. It doesn't matter if that candidate is a person of color, Caucasian, Asian or Hispanic. The only thing that matters for ballot qualification is constitutional eligibility. Will we see Romney held to the same standards as the effort to expose Soetoro for the fraud and liar he is?

But, Mitt Romney was born in America, right? He was born on March 12, 1947 in Detroit, Michigan. That is not in dispute. But, what is in dispute is his father's citizenship at the time Willard was born with the exact same situation with Obama/Soetoro.

While I don't entirely trust Wikipedia, they at least get part of it right regarding Mitt Romney's father: "Romney was born to American parents in the Mormon Colonies in Mexico; events during the Mexican Revolution forced his family to move back to the United States when he was a child."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

Mr. George W. Romney, was elected Governor of Michigan. Because there was talk George W. might run for the presidency, his citizenship eligibility came into question and because it extends to the child at the time of birth, there is now question regarding Willard (Mitt) Romney:

Mitt Romney's, father George W. Romney, Not A Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America, and was NOT, eligible for the Office of President, by Pinckney G. McElwee of D.C. Bar.)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20829167/Natural-Born-Citizen-Congressional-Record-6-14-1967-p-15875-80

Congressional Record (House) June 14, 1967

"I find no proper legal or historical basis on which to conclude that a person born outside of the United States could ever be eligible to occupy the Office of the President of the United States. In other words, In my opinion, Mr. George Romney of Michigan Is Ineligible to become President of the United States because he was born In Mexico and is, therefore, not a natural-born citizen as required by the United States Constitution."

Thus, we have the same situation as with Obama/Soetoro: A father born in a foreign country who never became a U.S. citizen. Several people have been doing some serious research on this:

http://noonan4president.blogspot.com/2012/01/mitt-romney-is-not-natural-born-citizen.html

"The big question is this…how did George and Gaskell Romney get their US Citizenship back if they still had it at all? If Gaskell (son) and Miles Park Romney (father) who were both Mexican citizens how could they transfer US Citizenship to George Romney? Mitt Romney, however, may be a birthright baby because he fell under the 14th Amendment (I doubt they were under the jurisdiction of the US) but it is absolutely clear that Mitt Romney is NOT a Natural Born Citizen unless he can prove that George Romney gained citizenship from naturalization prior to Mitt's birth in 1947. I have found no records showing this to be the case."

And: Mitt Romney, Barack Obama vs Natural Born Citizenship and the Constitution


http://usa-wethepeople.com/2011/10/mitt-romney-barack-obama-vs-natural-born-citizenship-and-the-constitution/


Of course, anyone who has done a few hundred hours of reading research on this issue fully understands how the Fourteenth Amendment has been twisted to suit political agendas, i.e., the myth called "anchor babies."

The real legal question is this: Romney's father was born in Mexico. Under their Constitution, he was a Mexican citizen.

Mexican Constitution - Chapter II


    Article 30. Mexican nationality is acquired by birth or by naturalization:

    A. Mexicans by birth are:

    I. Those born in the territory of the Republic, regardless of the nationality of their parents:

    II. Those born in a foreign country of Mexican parents; of a Mexican father and a foreign mother; or of a Mexican mother and an unknown father;

Was that still his status when Mitt was born?

Obama/Soetoro's father was a Kenyan national visiting the U.S. He was a British citizen. Under the British Nationality Act of 1948, Obama/Soetoro/Dunham was born with dual citizenship and forever ineligible to run for president.

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-president-of-us-is-currently-also_07.html

There was a darn good reason why those who birthed this republic did not want foreign influence in the White House and why the words 'natural born citizen' were put into the Constitution.

Leo Donofrio has continued to post several excellent pieces of research on this as well as attorney Mario Apuzzo. Despite all the wailing, name calling and outright lying by Soetoro's co-conspirators in the media and the ignorant in Congress, nothing can change Obama/Soetoro's dual citizenship status. Here are two of Leo's most recent posts:

Newly Revealed Evidence Establishes That President James Madison's Administration Required Citizen Parentage To Qualify Native-Born Persons For U.S. Citizenship

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/12/28/the-publius-enigma-newly-revealed-evidence-establishes-that-president-james-madisons-administration-required-citizen-parentage-to-qualify-native-born-persons-for-u-s-citizenship/

Debunking The New Natural Born Citizen Congressional Research Propaganda

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/12/01/debunking-the-new-natural-born-citizen-congressional-research-propaganda/

From Mario Apuzzo's web site: The Citizenship Status of Our 44 Presidents. At the bottom of that piece, see:

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/02/citizenship-status-of-our-44-presidents.html

"Are people born to our military out of the country (such as McCain) considered to be born on US soil ?? I think Vattel thought so but we were not building an overseas empire at the time our constitution was written so we may not have considered this in our use of the term "natural born citizen". Atty Apuzzo please clarify for me - Phil Stone

"John Sidney McCain III was born on August 29, 1936 in Colon Hospital, Colon Panama, according to the Panama Canal Health Department not in the Panama Canal Zone, which is authenticated by Donald Lynn Lamb representing the Panama Railroad Company with authority over the Hospital in Colon; and according to the Hay-Banau-Varilla Treaty of November 18, 1903 that has 26 articles in which the two pertinent to the status of the city of Colon under that Treaty refer to the Convention for the Construction of a Ship Canal says that the Colon Panama, the birth city cited on McCain’s 1936 long form birth certificate where he was witnessed being born, and where his parents resided, Colon, Republic de Panama, is not part of the Canal Zone, quote: ARTICLE I The United States guarantees and will maintain the independence of the Republic of Panama. ARTICLE II The Republic of Panama grants to the United States in perpetuity the use, occupation and control of a zone of land and land under water for the construction maintenance, operation, sanitation and protection of said Canal of the width of ten miles extending to the distance of five miles on each side of the center line of the route of the Canal to be constructed; the said zone beginning in the Caribbean Sea three marine miles from mean low water mark and extending to and across the Isthmus of Panama into the Pacific ocean to a distance of three marine miles from mean low water mark WITH THE PROVISO THAT THE CITIES OF PANAMA AND COLON and the harbors adjacent to said cities, WHICH ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ZONE ABOVE DESCRIBED, SHALL NOT BE INCLUDED WITHIN THIS GRANT …” and therefore, McCain is not a natural-born Citizen as he was not born on U.S. Territory or the USA and is not eligible for the Presidency with the U.S. Constitution Article II Section One Clause 5"

And: Neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark make one a Natural Born Citizen

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/07/neither-14th-amendment-nor-wong-kim-ark.html

We shall see what happens at the hearing in Georgia, Jan. 26, 2012. I pray Judge Malihi will be able to withstand the pressure because should he find for the plaintiffs, Barry Soetoro will not be on the ballot in 2012 and the whole world will know he isn't constitutionally eligible in 2012 and neither was he in 2008.

If you are unfamiliar with the ballot challenge in Georgia:

Attorney Van Irion on behalf of David Weldon Files Blistering Opposition to Defendant's(Obama) Motion to Dismiss in Georgia Ballot Access Challenge

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/12/attorney-van-irion-files-opposition-to.html

The Motion to Dismiss filed by Obama/Soetoro's big money attorneys has been denied. A miracle in itself. The judge in the three cases moved (I am happy about) to grant the motion to sever the cases.

http://www.art2superpac.com/UserFiles/file/Farrar-Welden-Swensson-PowellvObama-OrderonMotiontoSever-GeorgiaBallotAccessChallenge.pdf

Which means, Weldon will have his hearing on Jan. 26, 2012, presented by Van Irion.

Worldnetdaily has a new article on it doing a very good job in explaining, so I'll just give a link. It details the difference in the plaintiff's cases:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/court-obama-must-be-constitutionally-eligible/

In late October 2011, Van Irion of the Liberty Legal Foundation also filed two lawsuits - against the DNC. Since the DNC is a private entity, there is no question of standing or immunity:

No Certification Without Verification

http://libertylegalfoundation.org/1209/no-certification-without-verification/

"On 10/25/11 Liberty Legal Foundation joined with Presidential candidate John Albert Dummett Jr. to file two simultaneous lawsuits against the Democratic Party. Both lawsuits request injunctions prohibiting the Party from certifying that Obama is Constitutionally qualified to run for the office of President in the 2012 election. Without such a certification from the Party, Obama will not appear on any ballot in the 2012 general election. (Tennessee TN Complaint) (Federal DNC Complaint).

Ron Paul believes Obama is the president:

http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/04/25/ron-paul-was-never-a-birther/

"Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul has cleared the air on where he stands on questions surrounding the “natural born” status of US President Barack Obama by saying he never paid it any mind, and that prospective presidential candidate Donald Trump is desperate for attention in bringing it up." Never paid the serious question of constitutional eligibility for a presidential candidate?

Michele Bachmann trumps The Donald, declares birther dispute ‘settled’




"On ABC’s “Good Morning America” this morning, U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, tea partyist and possible GOP presidential rival to Donald Trump, was shown a certified copy of President Barack Obama’s birth certificate. She declared the matter “settled:” Well, fiddley dee!"

For those sincerely interested in learning more on the issue of natural born citizen because Obama/Soetoro just might have company regarding ballot qualification - Mitt Romney:

Dr. and Professor Herb Titus, Esq. states: Born In Hawaii Does Not Make Obama Natural Born Citizen - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqeV0ZlZ1Cw



"Dr. Herbert W. Titus, Esq., is of counsel to the law firm of William J. Olson, P.C. Prior to his association with this firm, Mr. Titus taught constitutional law, common law, and other subjects for nearly 30 years at five different American Bar Association approved law schools. From 1986 to 1993, he served as the founding Dean of the College of Law and Government in Regent University, Virginia Beach, Virginia. Prior to his academic career, he served as a Trial Attorney and a Special Assistant United States Attorney with the United States Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. and Kansas City, Missouri. Today he is engaged in a general practice with a concentration in constitutional strategy, litigation, and appeals. Mr. Titus holds the J.D. degree (cum laude) from Harvard and the B.S. degree in Political Science from the University of Oregon from which he graduated Phi Beta Kappa. He is an active member of the bar of Virginia and an inactive member of the bar of Oregon. He is admitted to practice before the United States Supreme Court, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, the United States Court of Claims, and the United States Courts of Appeals for the Sixth, Seventh, Ninth, Tenth, District of Columbia and Federal Circuits. His constitutional practice has taken him into federal district courts in Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Montana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Wyoming, and the District of Columbia and the state courts of Idaho, Texas and North Dakota."

Obama Cannot Be A “Natural Born Citizen" Under Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875) by Mario Apuzzo

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/07/obama-cannot-be-natural-born-citizen.html

Republican Leaders Are Protecting Obama and Subverting the Constitution

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/12/02/republican-leaders-are-protecting-obama-and-subverting-the-constitution/

"Republican leaders and elected officials maintain a protective shield of silence and disinformation about Obama’s personal history, his Constitutionally illegal Presidency, his crimes, and his anti-American and reprehensible behavior, to hide their own complicity in the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people. Winning the 2012 election and maintaining their personal power and privileges have become more important to the Republican leadership than the integrity of the Constitution and the political health of the nation."

Was Baby Virginia Sunhara's (Of Hawaii) Identity (birth certification registration number) stolen?

http://www.birthersummit.org/news/73-was-baby-virginia-sunaharas-identity-stolen.html

Lawsuit filed, January 3, 2012.

Is Romney constitutionally eligible as a natural born citizen?

In April 2011, a couple of weeks before Obama/Soetoro released his official forged birth certificate, Mitt Romney declared Mr. Cool didn't need a birth certificate because his mother was born in America. Romney declared his complete ignorance on the issue - or - he was covering in the event his citizenship becomes an issue. This piece is full of such propaganda,

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfreedman/2011/04/12/romney-to-trump-obama-doesnt-need-a-birth-certificate/

one can only refer to it as bird cage liner: Romney to Trump: Obama Doesn't Need a Birth Certificate. Perhaps Mitt Romney is terrified his own citizenship eligibility will be looked at more closely and find himself the target of real constitutionalists who believe the supreme law of the land is more important than a candidate or party.

Do you think the Democrats will make this an issue? If they did, it would come right back to their candidate, Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro aka Barry Dunham.

Will Republican presidential candidates (the ones not kissed and blessed by the global elites) makes this an issue? Where there's this much smoke, there's bound to be fire.

[Update: Jan. 7, 2012. A citizenship eligibility challenge has been formally filed here in Texas against Mitt Romney for ballot qualification. The individual, who I have exchanged email with is a long time Democratic voter. She also filed against Obama/Soeotro. There are four filings; for Romney

See the following SCRIBD link for the Papers filed with the Texas Secretary of State regarding both  Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro aka Barry Dunham. and  Willard (Mitt) Romney

http://www.scribd.com/doc/76372735/Four-Texas-Obama-Ballot-Challenges-Filed-To-Keep-Him-Off-Ballot

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 05:09:15 am »
...so...where was Mitt born?

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2012, 08:47:47 am »

  The answer is no.

  This is all a waste of time.

  If they haven't rule against Soetoro yet about his citizenship, they never will.

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2012, 11:50:17 am »
...so...where was Mitt born?

In Detroit, Michigan.

http://www.answers.com/topic/mitt-romney

    Born: 12 March 1947
    Birthplace: Detroit, Michigan
    Best Known As: Governor of Massachusetts, 2003-07

Name at birth: Willard Mitt Romney



Born in the US, he's not going to have an issue with being a 'natural born citizen'.
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."

~ Thomas Paine, A Dissertation on the First Principles of Government, 1795

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2012, 12:24:49 pm »
Where Mitt was born is not the issue.  Whether he is a natural born citizen, or not, is.  Being a "natural born citizen" is not some fable with no definition that the founding fathers "made up."  It is about one's political and national allegiance, and a widely-known and accepted ideology of the day.  We have already seen the traitorous acts and their results of one who is not a "natural born citizen."

One can be born in the United States (as Obama says he is) and not be a "natural born citizen."

What makes Mitt not a "natural born citizen" is Mitt's father's birthplace of Mexico.  What makes Obama not a "natural born citizen" (even if he were born in HI) is his father's birthplace of Kenya. 

It is very plain and very simple.  Both fathers at best held "dual-citizenship."  One is only a natural born citizen if born to parents who are both "citizens" (not dual-citizens) of the United States.  Obama's children and Mitt's children would be "natural born citizens."

Please note too that just because someone runs up here, has their baby in an American hospital, doesn't make that baby a "citizen" of the United States, either.  The confusion comes in where a birth certificate is issued at the hospital and this, in turn, is the document required for drivers license and passports.

It is most apparent that Mitt Romney and Barak Obama are not legally qualified to run for, or hold office of the United States of America.

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2012, 12:41:44 pm »
If you look at the document link at the bottom of the article you will find that both Obama and Romney are being challenged to be on the Primary Ballot in Texas.  In both cases it is about their fathers not being born in the United States.  This legal challenge is similar to what has taken place in Georgia.

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2012, 12:50:41 pm »
Rick Santorum falls into this category as well. Santorum's father is an Italian born Jan. 9, 1923, in Riva de Garda, Italy.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/staugustine/obituary.aspx?n=aldo-santorum&pid=147924440
http://2012.republican-candidates.org/Santorum/Parents-Grandparents.php

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2012, 01:24:08 pm »
I wish all States such as Georgia has done, would please put the challenge to these people.  It cannot be by accident that it is so important to them, that dual-citizenship holding persons and persons who are not "natural born citizens" are running for President of the USA.

Big questions -- what for?   It seems there is a huge psy-op to discredit the Constitution and it shouldn't be allowed!

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 01:33:09 pm »
Also -- in taking away Ron Paul talking points, both Romney and Santorum were, just yesterday, talking all about how they uphold the Constitution blah blah.

So... it has backfired, hasn't it.  If they like the Constitution and go by that great document  like they told New Hampshire voters -- they would not be trying to run fraudulently for President.

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 01:49:20 pm »
Looking at 88 US.162  According to the Supreme Court in Minor vs. Happersett 1875, a natural born citizen of the United States is born of 2 U.S. Citizens parents within the United States.  The candidate (Obama, Romney and Santorum ) are not a natural born citizen as ruled in Minor vs. Happersett, 88 US.162 (1875) which has never been overruled.  Minor vs. Happersett is a bind precedent as to the constitutional definition of a natural born citizen.

It should be noted that the person(s) are therefore in criminal violation of the code, Section 145.003 Subsection(f).   

Why are the citizens of New Hampshire not being made aware of the fact that these candidates are violating the constitution.  Obama needs to be arrested and the candidates won by Romney and Santorum removed from the convention in Florida.

People need to not vote for people who are criminal and running for President when you are not eligible is criminal.




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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2012, 03:30:14 pm »
Here is New Hampshire law on running for Presidential Candidate
http://www.sos.nh.gov/rsa655.htm

655:17-b Declaration of Intent; Presidential  Candidates Who File Nomination Papers.

 I. Declarations of intent for each candidate for president who seeks nomination by nomination papers shall be in the form provided in paragraph II. Declarations of intent required by this section shall be filed with the secretary of state, signed by the candidate, and notarized by a notary public.

II.  I, _________, swear under penalties of perjury that I am qualified to be a candidate for president of the United States pursuant to article II, section 1, clause 4 of the United States Constitution, which states, “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”  I further declare that I am domiciled in the city (or town or unincorporated place) of _____, county of ____, state of ____, and am a qualified voter therein; that I intend to be a candidate for the office of president to be chosen at the general election to be held on the ____ day of ____; and I intend to file nomination papers by the deadline established under RSA 655:43.  I further declare that, if qualified as a candidate for said office, I shall not withdraw; and that, if elected, I shall be qualified for and shall assume the duties of said office.




This is Florida's form for Oath a Candidate must sign in running for Vice President or President
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/forms/pdf/DSDE27.pdf

It says "...I am qualified under the Constitution and the Laws of the United States to hold office to which I desire to be nominated, or elected; I have qualified for no other public office in the state, the term of which office, or any part thereof runs concurrent with the office I seek; and that I will support the Constitution of the United States...."



Again, there is a difference between a citizen and a "natural born citizen."  It is a matter of definition, not hypothesis.

A "natural born citizen" is a person born in the United States who was born to parents who are both citizens of the United States.  This does not include parents who are dual-citizens (born in another country).  A person born in another country can only hold dual-citizenship.

The founding fathers put two conditions for a President.  1. he be 35-years-old  2.  he be a "natural born citizen."

The ideology of the day was that a person ascribed to the politics of the father.  Being a dual-citizenship holder, that father may still support his home country.  It is a matter of allegiance to the United States.

We have already seen the results of a person who is not a "natural born citizen" in acts against our country and people.  Obama even stated that the American People are the enemy!




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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 03:46:08 pm »
I was listening to Coast to Coast AM and there was a case law in the 1800s that defined a 'natural-born' citizen as being 2 fully adult American Citizens as parents.  So by that case law since Barack Obama Senior was Kenyan that means Barry Soetero aka Barack Obama jr. is not a 'natural-born' citizen.

I was driving at the the time so I don't have the specific case law.   :(

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2012, 04:06:20 pm »
All POTUS selections under the NWO must be of questionable citizenship eligability and cia blackmailed assets....

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2012, 04:11:19 pm »
All POTUS selections under the NWO must be of questionable citizenship eligability and cia blackmailed assets....

yeah, so the Constitution can be properly dissed.

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2012, 04:14:44 pm »
yeah, so the Constitution can be properly dissed.


Bush kissing Gannon -We just make this stuff up....

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2012, 04:29:42 pm »
Glenn T. Seaborg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_T._Seaborg
Glenn T. Seaborg

He spent most of his career as an educator and research scientist at the University of California, Berkeley where he became the second Chancellor in its history and served as a University Professor.[2]

Seaborg advised ten presidents from Harry S. Truman to Bill Clinton on nuclear policy and was the chairman of the United States Atomic Energy Commission from 1961 to 1971 where he pushed for commercial nuclear energy and peaceful applications of nuclear science.

http://www.lbl.gov/LBL-PID/Nobelists/Seaborg/presidents/20.html


LBNL Image Library -- Collection BERKELEY-LAB - Seaborg - Reagan - Nixon
 
http://imglib.lbl.gov/cgi-bin/ImgLib/credits/BERKELEY-LAB/.tags/96B05411
Breakfast at Owls Nest Camp, Bohemian Grove, July 23, 1967

Breakfast at Owls Nest Camp, Bohemian Grove, July 23, 1967. Around the table, left to right: Preston Hotchkis, California Governor Ronald W. Reagan, Harvey Hancock (standing), Vice President Richard M. Nixon, Glenn Seaborg, Jack Sparks, (unidentified individual), (unidentified individual), and Edwin Pauley. Courtesy of Edward W. Carter (deceased).

I first met Dick Nixon in January of 1948, when we were among the ten outstanding young men of the year, chosen by the Junior Chamber of Commerce. Here's Nixon and here am I. Here's Barbara Walker, who was Miss America of 1947.

I ran into Dick Nixon and Ronald Reagan, and here am I, at the Bohemian Grove in the summer of 1967, when Ronald Reagan was the Governor of California and Nixon was trying to decide whether he would run for President the following year.

http://imglib.lbl.gov/cgi-bin/ImgLib/credits/BERKELEY-LAB/.tags/96B05410
U.S. Junior Chamber of Commerce Ten Outstanding Young Men of 1947


U.S. Junior Chamber of Commerce (Jaycees) Ten (10) Outstanding Young Men of 1947 with Barbara Walker (Miss America). Left to right: Barbara Walker, Adrian Fisher, Cord Meyer, Jr., James Q. Newton, LaVon Peterson, Glenn T. Seaborg, Robert Hingson, U.S. Representative Richard M. Nixon, U.S. Representative Glenn Davis. (Missing from photo: Thomas Reid and de Lesseps S. Morrison).


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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2012, 04:39:21 pm »
Mao was a Yale Man - A Yali for Skull and Bones
Was Reagan a Spy for the government in the 40's? :



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2002/06/09/MNCFLEADIN.DTL
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Reagan's "subversive" ties

The FBI's background report on Kerr contrasts with the bureau's background investigation of Reagan after he was elected governor in 1966 and became a regent ex officio, FBI records show.

That process began when Reagan filled out a federal form required to get a security clearance, and stated that he never belonged to any group deemed officially subversive, a copy of the form shows.

According to FBI records, the bureau knew
Reagan had been in two such groups in the 1940s
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the Committee for a Democratic Far East Policy and
the American Veterans Committee
(Timothy Leary and Cord Meyer and Maud Russell  !!!)


- but the FBI background report failed to note that Reagan's denial was untrue.

Hundreds of people in the 1940s and 1950s had faced hearings and sometimes dismissals from federal employment for failing to disclose membership in groups deemed subversive.
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[ 1947-48: As a graduate student in psychology, Leary attends the first two national conventions of the American Veterans Committee (AVC), a left-wing veterans group, as a California state delegation leader. At the second AVC convention, in Milwaukee, Leary meets Cord Meyer, who is then spearheading an anti-communist purge of the organization. Meyer lectures Leary about communism, and the importance of liberal resistance to it. Leary will later credit Meyer with "helping me understand my political-cultural role more clearly."  ... Late 1950: Cord Meyer joins CIA and begins working in its International Relations Division]

The man who sold the world: Ronald Reagan and the betrayal of Main Street ... By William Kleinknecht  

http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/Committee_for_a_Democratic_Far_Eastern_Policy
Committee for a Democratic Far Eastern Policy

In 1948, Maud Russell was Executive director of the New York based Committee for a Democratic Far Eastern Policy.[1]

Consultants to the Committee included;[2]

Charles Bidien
T. A. Bisson
Hugh Deane
Israel Epstein
Harrison Forman
Kumar Goshal
Philip J. Jaffe
The Hon. Michael Lindsay
Kate L. Mitchell
Bernard Seeman
Gunther Stein
Maxwell S. Stewart
Ilona Ralf Sues
Chu Tong

She survived that siege and others in the years of civil war and the war with Japan that began in the mid-1930's, remaining in China until her return to the United States in 1943.

After World War II, she became executive director of the Committee for a Democratic Far Eastern Policy, which promoted friendship with the Communist forces that soon drove Chiang and the Nationalists from the continent and onto Taiwan. She published a journal, Far East Reporter, from 1953 until this year and lectured for many years on China and other Asian countries.


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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2012, 04:54:36 pm »
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/obama_bilderbergers_160.html
6. HILLARY CLINTON – SECRETARY OF STATE

Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, clandestine CIA asset used to infiltrate the anti-war movement at Yale University and the Watergate hearings, senior partner at the Rose Law Firm, key figure in the Mena drug trafficking affair, architect of the Waco disaster, implicated in the murder/ cover-up of Vince Foster, and many other deaths.

Anthony Weiner to resign Thursday
http://www.uncoverage.net/2011/06/will-weinergate-blow-president-hillarys-lesbian-cover/




http://www.midlifebachelor.com/wotm/2011-07-Huma-Abedin.html

Huma Abedin, pregnant wife of the now-former Congressman Anthony Weiner, has been selected as the midlifebachelor.com  Woman of the Month for July 2011!

This month's Woman of the Month selection was an extremely easy choice to make. I've seen nothing but this woman's husband on the TV news every night the last several weeks - with the stories about his tweeting highly inappropriate photos of himself to various women he'd met on the internet. The reporters always mention his wife, Huma Abedin, as being a top-level aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, but they've never shown an interview with Huma on the subject. They have mentioned that she is in her first trimester of pregnancy - which to me makes this story that much more difficult for her, I'm sure.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/he_wife_worlds_apart_kVvpLJeulZ526Cv2W7Bf2O
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"My wife has known about some of these online relationships since before we were married, and we spoke frankly about them. But she didn't know until this morning that I had not been telling the truth about the Twitter picture I posted last week," Weiner said at his Midtown press conference.

"I think it is more inappropriate -- the things that I've done since I've been married," he said of his online transgressions going back several years.
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On March 16, while Nevada Democratic volunteer [ Las Vegas blackjack dealer ]  Lisa Weiss says he was sexting with her on Facebook, according to RadarOnline.com, Abedin was with Hillary Clinton visiting Egypt and Tunisia, federal records show.

At each stop, while Weiner discussed whether Jewish women were adept at performing oral sex, Abedin helped Clinton consult with government officials and elements of civil society on recent events in the Middle East and the full range of regional and bilateral issues ...


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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2012, 05:15:02 pm »
Oh and by the by - the CIA controls the list of Bilderberger invitee's...

http://www.richardpoe.com/2003/10/29/bill-clintons-cia-connection/
Bill Clinton’s CIA Connection
By Richard Poe  Wednesday, October 29, 2003
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Bill Clinton’s CIA connection was first divulged in the 1996 book Partners in Power: The Clintons and Their America by Roger Morris, a leftwing dissident who resigned from Nixon’s National Security Council in 1970, in protest over the U.S. invasion of Cambodia.
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According to the book, the bearded, dishevelled Rhodes scholar [Bill Clinton] was recruited by the CIA while at Oxford – along with several other young Americans with political aspirations – to keep tabs on fellow students involved in protest activities against the Vietnam War. Morris says that the young Clinton indulged in some low-level spying in Norway in 1969, visiting the Oslo Peace Institute and submitting a CIA informant’s report on American peace activists who had taken refuge in Scandinavia to avoid the draft. “An officer in the CIA station in Stockholm confirmed that,” said Morris.

The CIA started recruiting campus informants under President Lyndon Johnson when he demanded hard proof that there were, in his words, “commie money and organisers behind this student s***”. The programme, known as Operation Chaos, would offer informants a wide range of inducements: a little cash on the side; taking care of their draft problems; and promises of future help. …
 
Mr. Clinton’s alleged ties to the CIA would explain some later episodes during his tenure as Governor of Arkansas, when his state became a staging-point for President Ronald Reagan’s secret effort to supply the Nicaraguan Contra rebels. An Arkansas State Trooper, L. D. Brown, has testified in a deposition that he was inducted into the CIA on Mr. Clinton’s suggestion, and then went on two clandestine flights to deliver weapons to Central America.
 
Mr. Clinton was even commended for his “patriotic” work by the Reagan White House after he had sent the Arkansas National Guard to Honduras for manoeuvres. The deployment was a ruse by the Pentagon, according to Morris. The Arkansas Guard left its “excess” inventory behind, providing a cache of weapons that were slipped to the Contras. …
 
The point is not that Bill and Hillary Clinton are Right-wingers in disguise – although Morris demolishes the pretence that they were progressive reformers in Arkansas. It is that they have no conviction, no ideology, no guiding purpose. Driven by raw ambition, they will make any compromise necessary to advance their interests.

Bilderberger's in the Kennedy Administration  

http://www.4rie.com/rie%203.html
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John J. McCloy (former Chairman of the CFR, and Chairman of Chase Manhattan Bank) used his position as coordinator of information for the US government to build the framework of what was to become the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), created in 1941-1942 era, headed by Bill Donovan. During 1947, the OSS was rolled into a new group called the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) by

the 1947 National Security Act, which made the activities of the CIA immune from all civil, and criminal laws.

In 1950 General Walter Bedel Smith became Director of the CIA.

The CIA helped organize, and sponsored the formation, and operation of the Bilderberg Conferences.

There is little doubt that the CIA sponsored the formation of the Bilderbergs, and continue to do so, to this day.

Kai Bird’s excellent account in "The Chairman, John J. McCoy, The Making of the American Establishment", states:

"In late 1952, Retinger went to America to try the idea out on his American contacts. Among others, he saw such old friends as Averell Harriman, David Rockefeller, and Bedel Smith, then director of the CIA.
After Retinger explained his proposal, Smith said, ‘Why the hell didn’t you come to me in the first place?’ He quickly referred Retinger to C. D. Jackson, who was about to become Eisenhower’s special assistant for psychological warfare.

It took a while for Jackson to organize the American wing of the group, but finally, in May 1954, the first conference was held in the Hotel de Bilderberg, a secluded hotel in Holland, near the German border. Prince Bernhard, and Retinger drew up the list of invitees from the European countries, while CD Jackson controlled the American list."

Who was Józef Hieronim Retinger? -  Founder and Secretary of the Bilderberg Conference

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2012, 05:22:37 pm »
http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-barack-obama-conclusively-outed-as-cia-creation/
Barack Obama conclusively outed as CIA creation
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Far from being the mere ‘son of a goat herder’ (as he deceptively paraded during and even before his candidacy), strong evidence has emerged that President Barack Obama is the product of the intelligence community.

Investigative reporter and former NSA employee Wayne Madsen has put together an extensive three-part (and growing) series with conclusive proof and documentation that Barack Obama Sr., Stanley Ann Dunham, Lolo Soetoro and President Barack Obama himself all hold deep ties to the CIA and larger intelligence community. And that’s just the beginning.
 
After his election, President Obama quickly moved to seal off his records via an executive order. Now, after two years of hints and clues, there is substantial information to demonstrate that what Obama has omitted is that his rare rise to power can only be explained by his intelligence roots. However, this is more than the story of one man or his family. There is a long-term strategic plan to recruit promising candidates into intelligence and steer these individuals and their families into positions of influence and power. Consider that it is now declassified former British Prime Minister Tony Blair was recruited into MI5 before becoming a labour leader, or that George H. W. Bush not only became CIA director in 1976 but had a deeper past in the organization. While we may never know many pertinent details about these matters, one thing that is certain is that the American people have never been told the truth about who holds the real power, nor who this president– and likely many others– really is. Thus, we urge everyone to read Wayne Madsen’s deep report and seek the truth for yourself.
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The Family of Obama and the CIA
 
There are volumes of written material on the CIA backgrounds of George H. W. Bush and CIA-related activities by his father and children, including former President George W. Bush.

Barack Obama, on the other hand, cleverly masked his own CIA connections as well as those of his mother, father, step-father, and grandmother (there is very little known about Obama’s grandfather, Stanley Armour Dunham, who was supposedly in the furniture business in Hawaii after serving in Europe during World War II). Presidents and vice presidents do not require security background checks, unlike other members of the federal government, to hold office. That job is left up to the press. In 2008, the press failed miserably in its duty to vet the man who would win the White House. With the ties of Obama’s parents to the University of Hawaii and its links to MKULTRA and ARTICHOKE, a nagging question remains: Is Barack Obama a real-life “Manchurian Candidate?”

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2012, 05:32:11 pm »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission
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For more than 15 years, from 1991 until his death on December 26, 2006,
Gerald Ford was the last living member of the Warren Commission.

http://crimemagazine.com/former-president-ford-admits-cia-compromised-warren-commissions-probe-jfk-assassination
Former President Ford Admits CIA Compromised the Warren Commission's Probe of JFK Assassination
Jan 2008

In a foreword to a new edition of the Warren Commission Report, the late president states that the CIA destroyed or kept from investigators critical secrets connected to the assassination of President Kennedy.

by Don Fulsom
 
In his final public words, former President Gerald R. Ford said the CIA destroyed or kept from investigators critical secrets connected to the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy. The stunning admission by Ford—a member of the Warren Commission that investigated the JFK assassination—is contained in the foreword to a new edition of the commission's report, A Presidential Legacy and The Warren Commission. Ford died in late 2006 at the age of 93.

In the new book, Ford said the commission's probe put "certain classified and potentially damaging operations in danger of being exposed." The CIA's reaction, he added, "was to hide or destroy some information, which can easily be misinterpreted as collusion in JFK's assassination."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_J2VwZ-98s

JFK - Gerald Ford CIA's Spy On Warren Commission Speaks

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2012, 05:37:55 pm »
http://lyndonjohnsonmurderedjfk.blogspot.com/
Lyndon Johnson and the CIA murdered John Kennedy in the 1963 Coup d'Etat.
the 1963 Coup d'Etat, also known as the JFK assassination



The LBJ-CIA Assassination of JFK

Lyndon Johnson made a dirty deal with CIA Republicans to murder John Kennedy in the 1963 Coup d’Etat. (People like Clint Murchison Sr., H.L. Hunt, D.H. Byrd, Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller, David Rockefeller, top Nelson Rockefeller aide Henry Kissinger, McGeorge Bundy, George Herbert Walker Bush, Gen. Edward Lansdale (CIA) and Gen. Charles Willoughby all are excellent candidates for elite sponsorship.) Lyndon Johnson and Allen Dulles may very well have been co-CEOs of the JFK assassination; with the CIA in charge of the killing of JFK, and Lyndon Johnson and (his close friend and neighbor of 19 years in Washington, DC) FBI director J. Edgar Hoover in charge of the cover up.

Clint Murchison, Sr – as much as H.L. Hunt – was a key player in the JFK assassination because of his close ties to the inner core of US intelligence (Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller, John J. McCloy), close ties to Lyndon Johnson and J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI, bankers Rockefellers; Murchison was even friends with key Kennedy-hater mafia godfather Carlos Marcellos of New Orleans. Not only that, Murchison, Sr. was a patient and partner of Dr. Alton Oschner, the former president of the American Cancer Society and who ran covert cancer research for the CIA. Oschner, likewise was a Kennedy-hater. John Simkin: “One of Ochsner's friends described him as being ‘like a fundamentalist preacher in the sense that the fight against communism was the only subject that he would talk about, or even allow you to talk about, in his presence.”
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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2012, 06:27:44 pm »
yes, and they are blatantly dissing the Constitution of the United States by even running for President because they are not eligible!

= Obama, Romney & Santorum

They are not "natural born citizens!"  They are lying about caring for and upholding the Constitution of the United States; otherwise, they would not be trying to fraudulently run for President.

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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2012, 07:20:02 pm »
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/cia-briefings-of-presidential-candidates/cia-8.htm

Chapter 5: In-Depth Discussions With Carter
In late June 1976, Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter distinguished himself in the eyes of CIA officials by becoming the first presidential hopeful to request intelligence briefings even before receiving his party's nomination.

Carter's request, which was directed to President Gerald Ford, prompted discussions involving the President, CIA Director George Bush, and National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft about who should provide such intelligence briefings and when they should be made available to the candidate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_Central_Intelligence
James R. Schlesinger 1973
On 2 February 1973 he became the Director of Central Intelligence, following the previous director Richard Helms, after he had been fired for his refusal to block the Watergate Affair's investigation.

Although his service at the CIA was short, barely six months, it was a stormy one as he again undertook comprehensive organizational and personnel changes. Schlesinger became so unpopular at the CIA Headquarters in Langley, Virginia, that a security camera was installed opposite his official portrait for fear that it would be vandalized.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Schlesinger

He is best known for serving as Secretary of Defense from 1973 to 1975 under Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. He became America's first Secretary of Energy under Jimmy Carter.
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When Jimmy Carter became President in January 1977 he appointed Schlesinger, a Republican, as his special adviser on energy
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After leaving the Energy Department he resumed his writing and speaking career and was employed as a senior adviser to Lehman Brothers, Kuhn, Loeb Inc., of New York City

June 11, 2002 he was appointed by U.S. President George W. Bush to the Homeland Security Advisory Council.


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Re: WILL THERE BE A CITIZENSHIP ELIGIBILITY CHALLENGE FOR ROMNEY?
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2012, 07:43:06 pm »
Challenging the candidacy qualification of each runner is done on the State level.  Georgia & Florida are doing good!

Nevada changed the laws in 2007 and the declaration/oath of qualification to run for President based on the Constitution of the United States is no longer...  They just simply state they running -- what for?  Why have the statement?  They allude to the Nevada Constitution as criteria -- a little circle about eligibility -- very clever.