I insist on conditioning people to stop supporting Paul to win GOP primary

[stray85]

You act like they're going to fight fair

I believe in a much bigger revolution and that's the rise of a third party. The American people will know this is a fraud and will react by voting in a third party candidate..which will be Ron Paul.

All this running as a Republican is to show the obvious corruption.

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You act like they're going to fight fair

I believe in a much bigger revolution and that's the rise of a third party. The American people will know this is a fraud and will react by voting in a third party candidate..which will be Ron Paul.

All this running as a Republican is to show the obvious corruption.

Even with them fighting 99% unfair, they finally have to admit he is in the top 3 and definitely a contender to win it all. If you insist on promoting an apathetic agenda, please do it in this thread. thanks

[stray85]

Ok...

I hope I'm wrong but being number 3 when he should be number # 1 means not being on the ballot come November.

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Ok...

I hope I'm wrong but being number 3 when he should be number # 1 means not being on the ballot come November.

I understand, and it is a valid argument which was already mentioned, but that thread is to expose the fraud rather than dwelling in an apethetic pity party about it.

[larsonstdoc]

  The ReDUMBlicans ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE RON PAUL THE NOMINATION NO MATTER WHAT.

  If there is a BROKEred convention some other creature may emerge--Jeb Bush or Palin or some other clown.

  THEY HAVE CHEATED HIM IN EVERY STATE SO FAR AND THEY WILL CHEAT HIM IN EVERY STATE ELECTION IN THE FUTURE.

  We can expose all this horse crap and it will still not do any good.

  He needs to roll the dice---go third party before Newt tries to go third party.

  Ron Paul is wasting time with the GOP.

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 The ReDUMBlicans ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE RON PAUL THE NOMINATION NO MATTER WHAT.

If GOP selects anyone but Ron Paul, they will lose in 2012 and everyone knows it.

 If there is a BROKEred convention some other creature may emerge--Jeb Bush or Palin or some other clown.

They floated the Jeb Bush idea, sending feelers all over the Internet, the plaback was so horrendous, they gave up. They may try again, but it is not looking like a good option for them especially now that we can trace 4 generations of treason with the Bush family starting with Solomon Bush who was a slave to the Rockefeller cabal (oh yeah, Bush and Rockefeller go back 4 generations). Then there was the Nazi traitor Prescott Bush and his now released archives documenting all of his acts of treason (they did not release them till after W won his second term). Then there is George HW Bush who is now exposed as a conspirator in the assassination of JFK, a conspirator in the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan, a Knight Commander who took a solemn oath to obey the Queen Bitch above his constitutional oath, n Iran-Contra traitor of the highest order, a continuity of government traitor, a Panamanian genocide traitor, an MK Ultra cover up traitor, a Franklin cover up traitor, a Fast and Furious traitor, a Carlyle traitor, a CFR traitor, and the list goes on and on.There is also GHWB's father in law Herbert Walker who was a eugenecist psychotic maniac who followed the depopulation/supermen cults that formed the Eugenics Records Office in Cold Springs Harbor, NY.

Palin was a shallow attempt to further deteriorate the executive branch of the constitutional republic. People have seen through this frail attempt to continue demoralizing the American electoral process by internationalist scumbags.

 THEY HAVE CHEATED HIM IN EVERY STATE SO FAR AND THEY WILL CHEAT HIM IN EVERY STATE ELECTION IN THE FUTURE.

I definitely agree that they have attempted to cheat him out of every state and they will continue, but their lack of true deceptive power is being exposed. Ron Paul is now the official winner of the Iowa caucus. This is evident by the election of the new head of the GOP for Iowa who is Ron Paul's co-chair to the 2012 Ron Paul for President candidacy. That is tsunami level news which the MSM is hiding. Matt Straw had to resign in shame and they elected Ron Paul's co-chair. The only way this is possible is by Iowa GOP admitting that Ron Paul won the caucuses.

 We can expose all this horse crap and it will still not do any good.

The only true enemy to American sovereignty is widespread apathy. Our exposing this shit and their continued denial of reality is shattering their 6.000 year rule over all of humanity. Te entire reason they had to concede Iowa is because of the patriots in Iowa exposing the fraud:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=225777.0

You say it is not doing any good and it is futile, I sure am glad Abraham Lincoln never thought like you:

"Many free countries have lost their liberty, and ours may lose hers;
but if she shall, be it my proudest plume, not that I was the last to desert,
but that I never deserted her. I know that the great volcano at Washington,
aroused and directed by the evil spirit that reigns there, is belching forth
the lava of political corruption in a current broad and deep, which is
sweeping with frightful velocity over the whole length and breadth of the
land, bidding fair to leave unscathed no green spot or living thing; while
on its bosom are riding, like demons on the waves of hell, the imps of that
evil spirit, and fiendishly taunting all those who dare resist its destroying
course with the hopelessness of their effort; and, knowing this, I cannot
deny that all may be swept away. Broken by it I, too, may be;
bow to it I never will.  
~Abraham Lincoln
This was spoken in 1839

 He needs to roll the dice---go third party before Newt tries to go third party.

  Ron Paul is wasting time with the GOP.

You think the primaries are rigged, but you do not think the general election is rigged? Is this a joke? And Newt going third party? WTF? The dems hate him more than the GOP. It is amazing to me how people think that exposing fraud in the primaries is too difficult a task yet they somehow feel that tackling the general election (which has 100x more insurmountable odds) will be easy peasy lemon squeezy.

[larsonstdoc]

  I can believe what I want to believe.  THIS IS ALL RIGGED.

  One thing is for sure---I am not against Ron Paul. 

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  I can believe what I want to believe.  THIS IS ALL RIGGED.

I agree it is all rigged, and the best way to bring down a rigged system is to expose that it is rigged at every turn.

  One thing is for sure---I am not against Ron Paul. 

never thought you were

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He's the only candidate with a consistent base regardless of the location.

The guy gets 15-25% of the vote everywhere he goes.  Is there another candidate doing that?

Ron Paul is the only candidate bringing new people to the Republican Party and they can ignore that fact at their own peril.

Here's the truth about the Republican Party(besides being corrupt), it is a party that sat by while Bush/Cheney raped the economy and the Constitution.  Any Democrat was going to win in 2008, because the Republicans had become villains.  The people supporting Romney and Santorum are the old guard(Gingrich is surviving on graveyard votes).  These are mostly older people and when they disappear from the planet, so will the Republican party if it doesn't embrace it's libertarian roots...it will go the way of the whigs.

Those of you who want a "third party" are stuck in a concept that is dying.  The democrats are being revealed also.  The future of American politics had better be party-less.  The vacuum from the death of the Republican party could actually be useful to globalists, because more than two or three parties could replace it.  This is what they had in the Weimar that lead to the Nazi's gaming the vote and gaining power without a majority of the public supporting them.

I hope that IF the Republicans decide to fall on their own sword and cheat Dr. Paul out of his nomination, he runs Independent and is in the three way debates with Obama and his Red Clone.  But, I don't support the idea of a new "party".  I'm pretty tired of cliques...I want an honest representative with a good understanding of the Constitution and what liberty means. 

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Those of you who want a "third party" are stuck in a concept that is dying.  The democrats are being revealed also.  The future of American politics had better be party-less.  The vacuum from the death of the Republican party could actually be useful to globalists, because more than two or three parties could replace it.  This is what they had in the Weimar that lead to the Nazi's gaming the vote and gaining power without a majority of the public supporting them.

Holy shit dude, that is what they are trying to do by hijacking the tea party or by their own invention, the OWS party. They seem to have failed to turn the tea party into the new SA, but OWS has many similar characteristics of the 1920's SA.

But even the OWS is being enlightened thanks to the tens of thousands of patriots handing out DVD's and interacting with them on a personal and human rights level. Even Ron Paul has reached out multiple times and over 90% of the supporters are legitimately looking for answers. It is because of all the honorable men and women sharing their knowledge by breaking the invisible "peer pressure borders" and communicating authentically face to face that America can hold back this overtly obvious bankster plot to build an SA party. The sole purpose of this historically effective elite-strategy will be to create 1,000 more Dresdens on American soil.

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Dr. Paul discussed this idea in several interviews in 2007. 

Really, he should craft an appeal to the core supporters of the Republican Party, and point out that he has remained with the party in hopes of avoiding a Weimar scenario.  They had better take a look around and realize that, for now, there are a lot of "independents" still voting democrat because of the bad taste from Bush/Cheney.  It's on Yahoo today that Obama is favoring this group by relenting on the "birth control" issue in his healthcare agenda.

Analysis: Obama pitches middle while GOP eyes base
http://news.yahoo.com/analysis-obama-pitches-middle-while-gop-eyes-110840367.html

The link on Yahoo's front page read "Obama's Risky Gamble" and pointed out that he was risking his own base by courting independents and disenfranchised conservative republicans...

WASHINGTON (AP) — The dustup over contraception underscored President Barack Obama's political edge in working to attract independent voters without alienating his Democratic base. His Republican rivals are forced to keep emphasizing their conservative credentials to attract the right-leaning activists who dominate the nominating contests.
It's a dynamic that usually plays out when a president seeks re-election without a primary challenger, and the other party fights to determine its nominee.
Obama already is in general-election mode, with the luxury of courting voters who don't ascribe to a political party. The eventual Republican nominee is moving to the right and probably will have to edge back toward the center in the fall. The farther he must go to the fringe to win the nod, however, the tougher his task.

He's actually trying to weaken Paul who the media has admitted is attracting conservatives, independents and disenfranchised democrats who can appreciate a Libertarian view.  He doesn't want to face the popular Paul...he would rather face the guys who only have that small, but powerful, core of party support. 

Paul needs to publicly point out that he is the only candidate bringing fresh blood to the otherwise anemic Republican Party.  If they don't want to accept these people, then they will be the powerful core of a really weak party.  Obama, in my opinion, has done a really good job of hiding his overall craptitude from the public, he continues to blame Bush.  And most people still see the democrats as the lesser of two evils after having Dick Cheney in the White House.

The only reason for the Republicans to not accept Ron Paul's influx of support, is because the grand design doesn't involve a two party system.

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BTW...I realize the political strategy being discussed in the article.  My point is that Obama made this concession at a time when Paul's numbers continue to grow while other candidates have really inconsistent support.  It was pretty obvious Paul was going to kick butt in Maine.