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« on: December 11, 2011, 10:13:30 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2011, 12:10:41 AM »

showing your true colors? Wow.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 06:57:43 AM »

showing your true colors? Wow.

Yeah she surprised me also. She's very articulate and knows finances well but it seemed like she was blowing off a lot of misplaced steam - Seemed a bit extreme to me.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 07:37:25 AM »

She's obviously bought into the 911 mythology hook, line and sinker.

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http://mondoweiss.net/2011/08/important-study-shows-that-a-small-network-is-fostering-widespread-hatred-of-islam-inside-us-politics-and-public-opinion.html
by Philip Weiss on August 29, 2011

On Friday, the Center for American Progress published an important and excellent study, called Fear, Inc: The roots of the Islamophobia network in the US. The study shows that the wave of Islamophobia in the U.S. --Americans mistrust Muslims more than they did even after 9/11-- is the product of a few energized individuals. And they're polluting our political discourse.

Specifically, it's a handful of exponents of Islamophobia, among them Daniel Pipes, Sharia-law "expert" David Yerushalmi (whom the NYT profiled in more neutral terms a couple weeks back), David Horowitz, and Steve Emerson, the CNN expert turned wingnut.

And the Center shows that they are getting money from just a few sources, but a ton of money at that. In short, a conspiracy, and an important one. You can't call it a conspiracy these days, it's a "network," or as Steve Walt says below, a "collaboration."

I'll get to excerpts of the report below, but the report recapitulates the history of neoconservatism. Recall that the Iraq war crusade was implanted into the American discourse in the '90s by the decided and earnest effort of a few true believers, backed by tons of money, who had a crazed theory of importing democracy to the Middle East by gunpoint, everywhere but in Israel/Palestine. And those beliefs soon swept the mainstream.

I'm hopeful that Islamophobia won't be so successful, and partly because the Center for American Progress has risen against it.

The report is careful to sidestep the Israel-motivation angle of the Islamophobes. I think this is intellectually irresponsible, but inevitable. No one in the Establishment wants to touch this angle. They don't want to be sounding like Walt and Mearsheimer, the Israel lobby. And of course, it's good that a portion of the Establishment is denouncing the ultra-Zionists. But supporting Israel is certainly an important part of the motivation, as I pointed out about Yerushalmi a few weeks back-- the Jewish right to Palestine is at the heart of his engagement, he even changed his name to Jerusalem. And donor Aubrey Chernick, whom the report focuses on -- well, again, Israel support is at the heart of his public actions.

Here are two quick takes on the report. Steve Walt at Foreign Policy:

   
    The irony in all this that the extremists examined in this report have gone to great lengths to convince Americans that there is a vast Islamic conspiracy to subvert American democracy, impose sharia law, and destroy the American way of life. Instead, what we are really facing is a well-funded right-wing collaboration to scare the American people with a bogeyman of their own creation, largely to justify more ill-advised policies in the Middle East.

And Ed Lasky at American Thinker points out the Jewishness of the list, though he leaves out the fact that George Soros is also Jewish:

   
    The Soros-supported Center for American Progress blames rich Jews for stoking Islamophobia...

        The Obama-allied Center for American Progress has released a report that blames Islamophobia in America on a small group of Jews and Israel supporters in America, whose views are being backed by millions of dollars. This "network", according to the news release, have "have worked hard to push narratives that Obama might be a Muslim, that mosques are incubators of radicalization, and that "radical Islam" has infiltrated all aspects of American society -- including the conservative movement. Who are the figures mentioned as the promoters of prejudice? Most of them are prominent Jews and supporters of Israel, such as David Horowitz, Daniel Pipes and Steven Emerson (the founder of the Investigative Project on Terrorism). The eight foundations mentioned as funding this effort include are almost exclusively ones founded and funded by Jewish donors, and lest readers not be aware of this fact, the Center for American Progress lists not only the other beneficiaries of the charities and foundations (most of them having Jewish or Israel in the title) but also goes to the trouble of naming the individuals behind these charities -- not just the donors but also those who serve on the boards.

Now here are some excerpts from the report itself:

    This network of hate is not a new presence in the United States. Indeed, its ability
    to organize, coordinate, and disseminate its ideology through grassroots organizations
    increased dramatically over the past 10 years. Furthermore, its ability to
    influence politicians’ talking points and wedge issues for the upcoming 2012 elections
    has mainstreamed what was once considered fringe, extremist rhetoric.
    And it all starts with the money flowing from a select group of foundations.
    A small group of foundations and wealthy donors are the lifeblood of the
    Islamophobia network in America, providing critical funding to a clutch of
    right-wing think tanks that peddle hate and fear of Muslims and Islam—

    ...Due in part to the relentless efforts of this small group of individuals and organizations, 
    Islam is now the most negatively viewed religion in America.
    Only 37 percent of Americans have a favorable opinion of Islam: the lowest favorability rating
    since 2001, according to a 2010 ABC News/Washington Post poll. According
    to a 2010 Time magazine poll, 28 percent of voters do not believe Muslims should
    be eligible to sit on the U.S. Supreme Court, and nearly one-third of the country
    thinks followers of Islam should be barred from running for president.

    Separate from the Fairbrook Foundation [one of the funders], Aubrey Chernick is a trustee of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and helped provide the $3.5 million in initial capital to start the conservative blog Pajamas Media, which used its online platform to oppose the Park51 community center in New York City....

    Altogether, these seven charitable groups provided $42.6 million in total to
    Islamophobic think tanks between 2001 and 2009—funding that supports the
    misinformation scholars and experts....



    All five [experts pictured above] are actively promoting the deeply mistaken portrayal of Islam—a religion of nearly 1.6 billion people worldwide, including 2.6 million Americans—as an inherently violent ideology that seeks domination over the United States and all non-Muslims.

Here is the summary at the start of the report:

The funding

    • More than $40 million flowed from seven foundations over 10 years.

    • The foundations funding the misinformation experts: Donors Capital Fund; Richard Mellon Scaife Foundation; Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation; Newton and Rochelle Becker Foundation and Newton and Rochelle Becker Charitable Trust; Russell Berrie Foundation, Anchorage Charitable Fund and William Rosenwald Family Fund; Fairbrook Foundation.

    The misinformation experts
• Five experts generate the false facts and materials used by political leaders, grassroots groups, and the media:
• Frank Gaffney at the Center for Security Policy
• David Yerushalmi at the Society of Americans for National Existence
• Daniel Pipes at the Middle East Forum
• Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch and Stop Islamization of America
• Steven Emerson of the Investigative Project on Terrorism

    • These experts travel the country and work with or testify before state legislatures calling for a ban on the nonexisting threat of Sharia law in America and proclaiming that the vast majority of mosques in our country harbor Islamist terrorists or sympathizers.

    • David Yerushalmi’s “model legislation” banning Sharia law has been cut and pasted into bills in South Carolina, Texas, and Alaska. His video on how to draft an anti-Sharia bill and his online tools have been picked up nationwide.

    The reach
    • The movement is moving nationwide in more than 23 states— made possible by a combination of new, single-minded Islamophobia groups, exemplified by Brigitte Gabriel’s ACT! For America, Pam Geller’s Stop Islamization of America, David Horowitz’s Freedom Center, and existing groups such as the American Family Association and the Eagle Forum.

    • Misinformation experts are broadcast around the country and the world, with their work cited many times by (among others) confessed Norway terrorist Anders Breivik.

    • U.S. politicians such as Reps. Peter King (R-NY), Allen West (R-FL), and Michele Bachmann (R-MN) repeat these anti-Muslim attacks give credence to incorrect facts.

    • This small network of people is driving the national and global debates that have real consequences on the public dialogue and on American Muslims.

    • In September 2010, a Washington Post-ABC News poll showed that 49 percent of Americans held an unfavorable view of Islam, a significant increase from 39 percent in October of 2002.

    Why it matters
• These attacks go right to the heart of two critically important national issues: the fabric and strength of our democracy and our national security. Our Constitution upholds freedom of religion for all Americans. Contending that some religions are not part of the promise of American freedoms established by our founders directly challenges who we are as a nation.

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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 09:06:37 AM »

Not going to watch the video...does she explain how in the hell they got box-cutters through the metal detectors at the airport?
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 09:23:50 AM »

Not going to watch the video...does she explain how in the hell they got box-cutters through the metal detectors at the airport?


Nothing so mundane as FACTS, no - she's showing her brainwashing has worked; blaming muslims for the evils of the world, as she's been trained to do. She supports the constitution; states her objections to Lindsay Graham's bs - but she's 100% in the 'muslims did 911' myth.

She reveals herself as someone who has been completely indoctrinated by the propaganda (see post above) put out by well-funded foundations in their efforts to breed more fear of islam in the US and Europe. She's not able to see much beyond her indoctrinated belief system. Sadly, she would go after the wrong enemy because she has no clue about who the real enemies are.


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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2011, 10:47:53 AM »

Of course she doesn't.  A good way to get people to wake up is to ask how they got box-cutters on the planes.  The original story was that someone working at the airport put the box-cutters on the planes before the passengers boarded.  This story disappeared pretty quickly, because it allows for "ground crews" and if someone was willing to get a job at the airport, someone else was probably willing to park a van full of explosives in the basement...again.

It's really surprising that anyone believes the box-cutter story anyway...five guys with one inch blades subdued 60+ pissed off Americans....come on.  Have you ever seen the complete fit the average American will throw if their food takes longer than normal to arrive at their table? 

Did the Warren9/11 Commission ever discuss how the box-cutters got on the planes?

Why don't we see the footage from the security cameras at the metal detectors?  If they brought them on, they would have had to go through the x-ray machine. 

Isn't it amazing how little detail is required to believe a fairy tale?  It just has to be something the individual wants to believe.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2011, 10:54:50 AM »

I think Steve Emerson might be CIA
If he is a real journalist why is on this show endorsing the feds and their ridiculous story-  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVCBe9n_Dk4

I wonder if the cia put him up to masking his now famous docu
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2011, 11:34:38 AM »

Annie don't like us 9/11 truthers.  Probably hates us more than the Muslims. In fact, she hits Alex Jones pretty hard here:

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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2011, 12:13:27 PM »

Not going to watch the video...does she explain how in the hell they got box-cutters through the metal detectors at the airport?


She's not saying that in fact or really implying it.

It's starts with comments of Lindsey Grahams comments about holding people accountable for those in the free world burning the "Qur`an". She then goes on a Constitution reading for Senator Graham and then says shes going to burn on to put it in his face.

Then returns to a Bill of Rights / admendments rant followed by a "Qur`an" burning - she burns some pages that she has bookmarked with bacon.

By and large she is quoting Lindsey Grahams comments about attacking Americans OVER Islam and her ranting in response to this is the Constitution and bill of rights.

It really has far less to do with the Qur`an, Islamaphobia and more to do with human rights of Americans. Really I don't see a connection between the new title and events taking place in the video.

She burning some of the pages in the Qur`an specifically to show Senator Lindsey Graham freedom and rights and the subject happened to BE burning the qur`an.

At the end of video two, shes stating that the Qur`an is "evil garbage" and MY comments come from this portion of the video. Here's where she starts mentioning  judeo christian and islamic sharia law comparison.

You can obviously see shes enraged about Senator Grahams turning against the freedoms of Americans over the Qur`an comments Lindsey made. At the end of the video she becomes unapologetic for her actions (meaning she doesn't care if she offends Islamic individuals for the sake of "political correctness" ) Which some might feel she should have?

NOTE: that at the end she makes a challenge stating in exacting vernacular just how she feels about the entire ordeal and DOES put Christianity in the mix making it look like (and possibly be) Christians vs Muslims speech, which might in today's world be considered a "Hate crime". I'll leave that for you to decide, which was why I posted the video in the first place.

But there is never any mention of either 9/11, box cutters or any false beliefs in the happenings of 9/11 i.e. Muslims were involved in the attacks.

I'm not defending her but rather the truth in what I see on the video - Yet I'm somehow disturbed by her actions and words in that they seem to be drawing an unforgiving and harsh line in the sand which seems "Extreme" to me.

I personally am against VIOLENCE of any kind and I know that Prison Planet Forum is also NOT an agitator forum looking to cause VIOLENCE of any kind, personally I don't believe Ann is either but it's very militant sounding - this video was NOT posted to cause such actions but rather as a finding since there have been several Ann Barnhardt audios on IM Global, which she seems to be on the money with her evaluations. Ann might indeed BE a hater I don't know for sure what drives her but I'm not trying to tell you either way, just putting up a video for you to watch and decide for yourself.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2011, 12:32:09 PM »

Annie don't like us 9/11 truthers.  Probably hates us more than the Muslims. In fact, she hits Alex Jones pretty hard here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uywa9ZogXdk&feature=related

Yep, looks like shes 911 clueless. I looked up some of those statements that are attributed to her, they do exist. Well I guess she would be talking finance on the Jones show will she Smiley that's too bad I really liked what she said in that area.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2011, 01:25:29 PM »


It really has far less to do with the Qur`an, Islamaphobia and more to do with human rights of Americans. Really I don't see a connection between the new title and events taking place in the video.


Jordan - did you watch part 2 of her videos? The part where she reads aloud from the Koran, using bacon as bookmarks in a juvenile demonstration of her hatred for muslims; followed by burning the Koran.

What does someone have to do to convince you they're full of venom towards muslims? I think you must have missed that part.

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She burning some of the pages in the Qur`an specifically to show Senator Lindsey Graham freedom and rights and the subject happened to BE burning the qur`an.


Oh I see, you're just giving her a pass because she's bashing Lindsey Graham. Hint: she's bashing muslims AND Lindsey Graham.

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You can obviously see shes enraged about Senator Grahams turning against the freedoms of Americans over the Qur`an comments Lindsey made. At the end of the video she becomes unapologetic for her actions (meaning she doesn't care if she offends Islamic individuals for the sake of "political correctness" ) Which some might feel she should have?


So in your world, people who pointed out the hate speech against Jews in Germany in the 30's were doing it for the sake of "political correctness".
Mkay.
Well she has every right to say what she wants, and we have every right to criticize it.

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NOTE: that at the end she makes a challenge stating in exacting vernacular just how she feels about the entire ordeal and DOES put Christianity in the mix making it look like (and possibly be) Christians vs Muslims speech, which might in today's world be considered a "Hate crime". I'll leave that for you to decide, which was why I posted the video in the first place.

What she DOES is to set up further division among people - muslim vs. non-muslim. That's not a "hate crime" - that's called the favorite method of the NWO to keep people fighting amongst themselves.

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But there is never any mention of either 9/11, box cutters or any false beliefs in the happenings of 9/11 i.e. Muslims were involved in the attacks.

I'm not defending her but rather the truth in what I see on the video - Yet I'm somehow disturbed by her actions and words in that they seem to be drawing an unforgiving and harsh line in the sand which seems "Extreme" to me.

Because what you're feeling is the truth of what she's doing: couched in her pro-constitutional rant against Lindsey Graham, she has done a hatchet job on all muslims and you're not quite sure that's what she intended?

She's spewing propaganda against muslims and you don't quite see that?
And where does she get this fervent hatred for muslims?
She gets it from the events of 911; and the "official story"
Don't pretend you can't see that Jordan - it's right there.
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 01:35:06 PM »

I'm a Christian, but I consider Ann to be a fake Christian.  She is so motorized by hatred of Muslims that she cannot see through the true Satanic wickedness of 9/11.

She falls for the whole "White Christian" vs "Brown Muslim" garbage. 

It's a sign of mental weakness: she needs to feel that she is the "good guy" instead of having a true understanding of evil. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2011, 02:06:21 PM »

Jordan - did you watch part 2 of her videos? The part where she reads aloud from the Koran, using bacon as bookmarks in a juvenile demonstration of her hatred for muslims; followed by burning the Koran.

What does someone have to do to convince you they're full of venom towards muslims? I think you must have missed that part.

Yep I watched both -- I can see the venom but since I have NOT watched other videos I didn't want to jump the gun - The bacon was meant to be insulting to Muslims no doubt.


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Oh I see, you're just giving her a pass because she's bashing Lindsey Graham. Hint: she's bashing muslims AND Lindsey Graham.

So in your world, people who pointed out the hate speech against Jews in Germany in the 30's were doing it for the sake of "political correctness".
Mkay.

There are no similarities between Lindsey Graham , Islam and Jews in Germany in the 30s. The conversation was BECAUSE of Graham talking about stopping Americans from burning Qur`ans or taking away rights of Americans. "He (Senator Graham) wished he could do more" like what? Put them in camps? Imprison them? So in fact it would be the reverse of what you suggest. Graham was suggesting that anyone practicing their rights should be stopped - Period! No rights for you just camp time.

I remember the AJ show when they were burning Qur`ans in Florida I believe, guy doing it was a radical religious nut (just my opinion) but as AJ pointed out - he has that right, taking it away is very dangerous - that doesn't mean we agree with them and what they do. Myself included.

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Well she has every right to say what she wants, and we have every right to criticize it.

What she DOES is to set up further division among people - muslim vs. non-muslim. That's not a "hate crime" - that's called the favorite method of the NWO to keep people fighting amongst themselves.

No ones trying to stop you from criticizing it Satyagraha -- I'm glad you are in the forum and contribute so don't feel my opinion of what I'm seeing in the videos is an attack on you personally, it's not.

I agree, she gets very very radical in the 2nd video. Pretty evident, that's why I made that statement in my post.

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Because what you're feeling is the truth of what she's doing: couched in her pro-constitutional rant against Lindsey Graham, she has done a hatchet job on all muslims and you're not quite sure that's what she intended?

She's spewing propaganda against muslims and you don't quite see that?
And where does she get this fervent hatred for muslims?
She gets it from the events of 911; and the "official story"
Don't pretend you can't see that Jordan - it's right there.


What is feel is - that the first video is her honest feelings on what Lindsey Graham is trying to do .. I don't think anyone is going to deny what a scum he is, do you?

And that is what really prompted me to put the video up to begin with, because what she is saying in that first video is right.

Video 2, that's another story and it's quite radical which is why I ended my post with "Ann might indeed BE a hater I don't know for sure what drives her but I'm not trying to tell you either way, just putting up a video for you to watch and decide for yourself."

NOTE: Those are the first two videos I've see of her I don't like to make a decision on something till I personally look into it further Satyagraha, I don't rely on what you or anyone else tells me until I can see it for myself - Keeps me from being manipulated from either side.

If you notice after CWN's post I could see how she really was because I looked into it further. I promise I'm not pretending Smiley peace...
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2011, 02:10:03 PM »

I'm a Christian, but I consider Ann to be a fake Christian.  She is so motorized by hatred of Muslims that she cannot see through the true Satanic wickedness of 9/11.

She falls for the whole "White Christian" vs "Brown Muslim" garbage. 

It's a sign of mental weakness: she needs to feel that she is the "good guy" instead of having a true understanding of evil. 

Yeah, I caught the white Christian power comment, shes almost Ann Coulter's spiritual doppelganger. They do have a few things in common.
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2011, 02:15:59 PM »

Yeah, I caught the white Christian power comment, shes almost Ann Coulter's spiritual doppelganger. They do have a few things in common.

"Ann Coulter's spiritual doppelganger"!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!!   Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

I must have missed the white Christian power comment, brother.  What did she say and where was it?
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2011, 08:23:32 PM »

"Ann Coulter's spiritual doppelganger"!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!!   Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

I must have missed the white Christian power comment, brother.  What did she say and where was it?

Well it was that comment about the white judeo christian but she was so ranting about Islam it really painted it in a bad light.
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2011, 09:32:56 PM »

Yep I watched both -- I can see the venom but since I have NOT watched other videos I didn't want to jump the gun - The bacon was meant to be insulting to Muslims no doubt.

It spoke more about Ann Barnhardt's level of maturity - a childish ploy for viewership.

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There are no similarities between Lindsey Graham , Islam and Jews in Germany in the 30s. The conversation was BECAUSE of Graham talking about stopping Americans from burning Qur`ans or taking away rights of Americans. "He (Senator Graham) wished he could do more" like what? Put them in camps? Imprison them? So in fact it would be the reverse of what you suggest. Graham was suggesting that anyone practicing their rights should be stopped - Period! No rights for you just camp time.

I didn't make my point clearly I think. In 1930s Germany, it became 'socially acceptable' to deride the Jews; in public speeches, in posters, in the media - any societal resistance to demonizing the Jews was slowly broken down, so that over a relatively short period of time, what was once a 'taboo' in public discourse moved into the realm of being acceptable, encouraged, and eventually (as we see from history) acted upon.

Ann Barnhardt is demonstrating that breakdown; now - in 2011 - and she's not alone in this. Over the past few years, as the propaganda campaign has been ramping up, more and more you find that bashing islam and muslims is becoming 'acceptable'... to illustrate this, just imagine that video if the book she was reading from (bacon strips as bookmarks) was the Torah, and if the group she was demonizing was the Jews. You may not have posted it at all in that case. That would not have been so easily acceptable; so easily overlooked because of the Lindsey Graham angle - because we have seen the end game for the Jews in Germany. Why are we so reluctant to step back and see the parallels in 2011, with a different group?

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I remember the AJ show when they were burning Qur`ans in Florida I believe, guy doing it was a radical religious nut (just my opinion) but as AJ pointed out - he has that right, taking it away is very dangerous - that doesn't mean we agree with them and what they do. Myself included.

And I agree with Alex on that - the guy in Florida, Ann Barnhardt - both have their right to burn Korans. They can burn whatever religious books they want -- that's not the issue. Do you understand my point above? The issue is (and this forum a place) to discuss the larger picture here: the campaign to demonize muslims that was started on Sept. 11, 2001 -- when the NWO elite decided to make the biggest patsies of all time out of an entire group of people --  "the muslims did it".

It was a carefully constructed false flag; and my entire point to the post I originally made was that Ann Barnhardt, in performing her act on youtube, reveals herself as being completely clueless about the real perpetrators of the 911 false flag.

I don't care about her Koran burning; what I DO care about is that people who see that video realize she's although she's defending the first amendment vis a vis Lindsey Graham's idiocy, and in other videos she is aware of the manipulation of the financial markets -- it is just amazing and sad to see she's completely clueless about the people who are behind ALL of this (destruction of the world trade towers, destruction of the industrial capacity of western nations, destruction of the financial markets, theft of trillions, loss of jobs, destruction of the family, destruction of personal liberties, etc. etc., instead funneling her righteous anger at the wrong group of people (and this is not her only attack video, btw), the muslims.

As for Lindsey Graham - he's just a puppet - so terrified of being 'outed' as a closet case, he follows orders. He's completely controlled.
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2011, 10:26:38 PM »

Annie don't like us 9/11 truthers.  Probably hates us more than the Muslims. In fact, she hits Alex Jones pretty hard here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uywa9ZogXdk&feature=related

Well Ron Paul says 19 guys with boxcutters did 9/11 also but I don't know if he truly believes that. He is obviously not going to destroy his career on the issue. If you want to be president right now I don't think 9/11 is the way to do so. However Ron Paul doesn't attack Alex Jones; that tells me he's on the right track.
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2011, 11:18:05 PM »

Well Ron Paul says 19 guys with boxcutters did 9/11 also but I don't know if he truly believes that. He is obviously not going to destroy his career on the issue. If you want to be president right now I don't think 9/11 is the way to do so. However Ron Paul doesn't attack Alex Jones; that tells me he's on the right track.

Ron Paul would get totally hammered by the MSM if he brought up 9/11.

However, I bet my life that he would re-investigate 9-11 if he became president.
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2011, 12:09:53 AM »

It spoke more about Ann Barnhardt's level of maturity - a childish ploy for viewership.

I didn't make my point clearly I think. In 1930s Germany, it became 'socially acceptable' to deride the Jews; in public speeches, in posters, in the media - any societal resistance to demonizing the Jews was slowly broken down, so that over a relatively short period of time, what was once a 'taboo' in public discourse moved into the realm of being acceptable, encouraged, and eventually (as we see from history) acted upon.

Ann Barnhardt is demonstrating that breakdown; now - in 2011 - and she's not alone in this. Over the past few years, as the propaganda campaign has been ramping up, more and more you find that bashing islam and muslims is becoming 'acceptable'... to illustrate this, just imagine that video if the book she was reading from (bacon strips as bookmarks) was the Torah, and if the group she was demonizing was the Jews. You may not have posted it at all in that case. That would not have been so easily acceptable; so easily overlooked because of the Lindsey Graham angle - because we have seen the end game for the Jews in Germany. Why are we so reluctant to step back and see the parallels in 2011, with a different group?

And I agree with Alex on that - the guy in Florida, Ann Barnhardt - both have their right to burn Korans. They can burn whatever religious books they want -- that's not the issue. Do you understand my point above? The issue is (and this forum a place) to discuss the larger picture here: the campaign to demonize muslims that was started on Sept. 11, 2001 -- when the NWO elite decided to make the biggest patsies of all time out of an entire group of people --  "the muslims did it".

It was a carefully constructed false flag; and my entire point to the post I originally made was that Ann Barnhardt, in performing her act on youtube, reveals herself as being completely clueless about the real perpetrators of the 911 false flag.

I don't care about her Koran burning; what I DO care about is that people who see that video realize she's although she's defending the first amendment vis a vis Lindsey Graham's idiocy, and in other videos she is aware of the manipulation of the financial markets -- it is just amazing and sad to see she's completely clueless about the people who are behind ALL of this (destruction of the world trade towers, destruction of the industrial capacity of western nations, destruction of the financial markets, theft of trillions, loss of jobs, destruction of the family, destruction of personal liberties, etc. etc., instead funneling her righteous anger at the wrong group of people (and this is not her only attack video, btw), the muslims.

I know right? It' baffles me how you can be so clued, eye's wide open on a financial world global takeover by bankers with the help of the US Government - and know this without question yet.. 911 was as the government reported? What the ... That blows my mind.
 


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As for Lindsey Graham - he's just a puppet - so terrified of being 'outed' as a closet case, he follows orders. He's completely controlled.


There all insane and completely out of control. None them can be trusted.
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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2011, 07:55:39 AM »

She's not saying that in fact or really implying it...

But there is never any mention of either 9/11, box cutters or any false beliefs in the happenings of 9/11 i.e. Muslims were involved in the attacks...

So, you made a poor choice in thread titles.  Roll Eyes

I just watched the first part of The Power of Nightmares (BBC 2004).  I actually paused it halfway through to come and look at Satyagraha's post.  It's an interesting study of the Straussians, Neo-Cons, radical Islam and how those groups interacted...they interview William Kristol and his father who founded the neo-con movement.  Also interviewed is Richard Pipes...father of Daniel Pipes.

You want to know the breadth and depth of the Terror Scam, that's a good place to start.

The Power of Nightmares Part 1-Baby it's Cold Outside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lByw7kvS0

What's really great is that the neo-cons believed the CIA was completely ignorant of Soviet use of terrorists.  In actuality, the CIA knew the truth about terror...the CIA runs the terrorists, not the KGB.  Very interesting...being produced by the BBC, you will still need to do some reading between the lines, and have your BS detector set to "MAX".
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2011, 08:28:48 AM »


I just watched the first part of The Power of Nightmares (BBC 2004).  I actually paused it halfway through to come and look at Satyagraha's post.  It's an interesting study of the Straussians, Neo-Cons, radical Islam and how those groups interacted...they interview William Kristol and his father who founded the neo-con movement.  Also interviewed is Richard Pipes...father of Daniel Pipes.

You want to know the breadth and depth of the Terror Scam, that's a good place to start.

The Power of Nightmares Part 1-Baby it's Cold Outside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lByw7kvS0

What's really great is that the neo-cons believed the CIA was completely ignorant of Soviet use of terrorists.  In actuality, the CIA knew the truth about terror...the CIA runs the terrorists, not the KGB.  Very interesting...being produced by the BBC, you will still need to do some reading between the lines, and have your BS detector set to "MAX".

Excellent video - Adam Curtis documentaries are really exceptional.
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2011, 12:40:27 PM »

So, you made a poor choice in thread titles.  Roll Eyes

I just watched the first part of The Power of Nightmares (BBC 2004).  I actually paused it halfway through to come and look at Satyagraha's post.  It's an interesting study of the Straussians, Neo-Cons, radical Islam and how those groups interacted...they interview William Kristol and his father who founded the neo-con movement.  Also interviewed is Richard Pipes...father of Daniel Pipes.

You want to know the breadth and depth of the Terror Scam, that's a good place to start.

The Power of Nightmares Part 1-Baby it's Cold Outside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lByw7kvS0

What's really great is that the neo-cons believed the CIA was completely ignorant of Soviet use of terrorists.  In actuality, the CIA knew the truth about terror...the CIA runs the terrorists, not the KGB.  Very interesting...being produced by the BBC, you will still need to do some reading between the lines, and have your BS detector set to "MAX".

I have watched that a few times - it's very good. But like you say you'll have to read between the lines some after all it is the BBC Smiley  but a real eye opener all the same...
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