Opinions/Suggestions/Innuendos

[Femacamper]

I heard this on the Jan 4th show:

RON PAUL -- Honorable, Decent, Humble, True To His Word.

No other candidate fits that description.
Does anyone want to design a sign with that slogan on it? I think it's got a lot of potential.

[bernayssucks]

This is a thread I've just discovered on www.ronpaulforums.com http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=75102

If you check the results county by county from Iowa, one state stands out, Jefferson County, where RP gets 35% of the vote and wins! It is so far ahead of the pack that it can't be written off as an anomaly. Word is that meetup groups in Jefferson County ran ads in local newspapers for weeks. Check out the above thread for more information, although info is a bit sketchy at the moment. We really need to get to the bottom of this. Can anyone from the Jefferson meetup group post exactly what magic you guys worked?! Also it would be helpful to have copies of the ads you ran, because evidently they work! Also can you account for this win in any other way? Is there some other factor we are missing here? There is an outside chance it was just a fluke because in statistical terms the sample size was quite small, but I reckon that if someone actually did an analysis of it, the result would be statistically significant.

Jefferson meetup group get in touch! Even better, phone in to the Alex Jones show. If this is really the answer, we need to get websites up and running and focus all of our fundraising efforts on local newspaper ads. Someone has already created www.ads4paul.com as a response but we need more sites and more info. We need to list every single local newspaper in America and work county by county running ads everywhere. As someone pointed out on the above forum, this is the way to get to those who dont use the internet and also to explain Ron Paul's platform in a little more detail. It seems like it may not be too expensive either.

As a side note, isn't it apt that the revolution really took off in a county called Jefferson?

[seabhcan]

What Paul says is excelent, but the way he says it isn't presidential.

He has an annoying habit of not finishing his point and running straight into the next. He needs to learn to *pause* after each point.

[trx32]

Ok,

  Everybody knows Ron Paul is a longshot(Even if you're for him)... but they also want to keep Hillary Out! And so many people are so mad
as hell at Geo Bush that the dems have huge momentum for  November 08.. My opinion is that some may feel that it is  more important
to keep Hillary Out than Give Ron Paul a couple extra percent at a very long shot deal.  Most of the people I know wanted ABH. "Anybody but Hillary"....
So some votes that could have gone Ron Pauls way were probably spent to keep Hillary Out!!

  Thats how I saw Iowa and the 08 race.

  The Democrats are probably getting in this time..
  And  Hillary would be everybody's worst nightmare!!
  my 2cents

[adissenter2]

 

yes yes a president must always pander to the lowest common denominator

you remind of this special newscast
http://files.meetup.com/523165/Final%20Ledger%20Ad.pdf

that had to be the bestest mostest interestingest interview I have ever viewed ever

[37]

Interesting point...  I'm sure some of those people would support Ron Paul, and I think that the only Dem who can beat RP is Hillary, but I might be underestimating Obama.  It is encouraging that A) more people participated in the Dem caucus and B) They didn't do what was expected and predicted by polls and pundits.  I'm impressed that they see through Hillary...Have you seen her chapter in Michael Moore's Sicko?  He makes her look very bad, and that just came out on DVD before Christmas.

Good insight, thanks for sharing.

[Dig]

yeah if the caucus was not fixed and rigged and a total fraud, then that might be a decent argument

[lance]

SUPER DUPER TUESDAY is February 5 - only 4 weeks away.  We don't have much time but the way Paul's campaign has this planned out it is clear to me that he can WIN if we all get to work right now...

1) AT A MINIMUM everyone here needs to go to Ron Paul's official site and register as a volunteer.  It takes only a minute and you are letting campaign HQ know where you are in the field.  If nothing else they can count you as a supporter/voter.

2) TO SAVE THE COUNTRY you need to go to http://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassrootscentral.test/
and register to be the leader of your neighborhood.  This commits you to delivering the vote in your neighborhood voting precinct to Ron Paul.  You will be surprised how small your voting precinct actually is and then remember that only about 40% of the people there are even registered.   When you register as a precinct captain you will find out who else in your area is supporting Ron Paul.  Folks, we can win this thing.

3) Why are you still reading?  Do it now to SAVE THE USA!

[Tyrson]

Not a voice coach so much as he has to have less respect his political adversaries and be little indigent when dealing with them, like Iraq's got anything to do with terrorism during 9/11, and he should jump on them when they obfuscate the issues with irelavent information "facts".
He a better Man than I.
I Love him.

peace

[bernayssucks]

There are still many poor deluded fools out there who still don't take Ron Paul seriously in his bid for president (rapidly shrinking in number). From now on, I propose that we stop with the Congressman Paul and with the Dr Paul and all start referring to him as President Paul. Every conversation, every news article we write, every interview we do, every radio show we broadcast, every new video, tshirt, newspaper ad, promo, blimp, helicopter banner we make. Change it all to President Paul!!! Not only will this get up the noses of the MSM fakers no end, but it will start reinforcing in people's minds that he is Presidential material. Be the change you want to see. Fake it before you make it and all that. Make it such an issue, that the MSM even has to cover the fact that Ron's supporters refuse to call him congressman or doctor. Get this out to everyone, it is time to rebrand Paul.

[Dig]

President Paul, I am in!

[seabhcan]

Its not pandering, its just being more effective.

Paul is saying things that most americans have never heard before. But he speaks too quickly and doesn't hammer home his point - so the point is missed.

If he simply finished each sentence and paused for a quarter second before starting the next, it would get through better.

For example in the New Hampshire debate, he said "These are third world nations, they don't have the capability, but I think its the misunderstanding and the disagreements..."

Now, if he'd said "Iran is a third world nation, it doesn't have the capability to threaten the US. *pause*

Now I think its the misunderstanding and the disagreements..."

The message would get across better.

[mickswann]

What Paul says is excelent, but the way he says it isn't presidential.

He has an annoying habit of not finishing his point and running straight into the next. He needs to learn to *pause* after each point.

Conversey, though, many establishment news commentators (those allowed to discuss him on air) have said that his authenticity comes from the fact that he isn't over-schooled and over-rehearsed like Hitlery is.

[Sonja]

I agree he could lower his tone and relax, slow down a bit, my friend calls him 'Sqeaky." I would also get him some new ties and shoes, but thats for the masses not me, I defend him like crazy whenever anyone mentions this stuff, like, listen to the message and forget the bullshit youve been using to distinguish whats important and what is not.
Still, the brainwashed masses are falling for that Huck Chuck that is being spewed by the guy who talks like he's rehearsed every sentance. 

[PatriotX]

I agree Sonja.  Substance, not flash.  That is why Mitt Romney also gets such favor with the masses.  They want charisma, not intergrity.   They desire looks, not the correct stance on the issues.   

Patriot X

[godzillais2000]

MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Rep. Ron Paul has no plans to run on a third-party ticket, he told The Trail tonight, minutes before boarding a private jet to Los Angeles.

And, it turns out, being excluded from the evening's Republican forum on Fox News landed the Texas congressman a second invitation on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno." He'll be the lead guest on Monday's show, he said.

"It's annoying not [being] able to participate in the debate," said Paul, adding that Fox News reporters and commentators "are warmongerers who don't want to hear other opinions."

"But it worked well for us," he continued.

Paul has been one of this campaign's biggest surprises. Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee have seen their popularity fluctuate, but Paul has continued to climb in polls (he's at 10 percent in the latest CNN/WMUR New Hampshire poll, well ahead of Thompson) and raise significant sums of money. He expects to improve on his fifth-place finish in Iowa, where he beat Giuliani, and said he believes he can stay competitive on Super Tuesday, when California and New York, where Paul has strong online followings, go to the polls.

Throughout the year, the 72-year-old obstetrician-turned-congressman has been the most popular Republican candidate online. About 85 percent of the $28 million he raised last year came through the internet, his campaign said.

The money has allowed him to greatly expand his field staff. He had 10 full-time staffers in Iowa and has nine here in New Hampshire. Jesse Benton, his spokesman, said the campaign has aired 10 radio ads. In addition, it has run six TV commercials in the Granite State, spending about $1.5 million. Looking ahead, the campaign has three offices and nine full-time staffers in South Carolina and recently hired its third staffer in California.

For weeks rumors have swirled that Paul, who trails his opponents in national and state polls, will eventually run as an independent or libertarian candidate.

"I have no intention of doing that," Paul told The Trail.

Asked how he'd respond if his supporters clamored for him to mount a run outside the GOP, Paul responded: "We'll see if the supporters keep http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/06/paul_has_no_intention_of_makin.html

[larsonstdoc]

  THAT WAS A COUPLE OF NIGHTS AGO.  THINGS HAVE CHANGED!  HILLARY AND MCCAIN DO NOT REPRESENT CHANGE!

[ApplesauceNinja]

I don't care if Dr. Paul runs on the Martian Party ticket, he's got my vote.  Period. 

[bernayssucks]

This letter is addressed to anyone who feels despondent about Ron Paul’s New Hampshire showing. Election fraud issues aside, there may be some who feel that there is some degree of failure here since expectations were running so high. You may have the feeling that our efforts have come to nothing and the task is much greater than that which we ever imagined, that we have reached a ceiling somehow. This in some ways is understandable, but represents a colossal misunderstanding of a) the dynamics and rules of the race we are in and b) the bigger picture of what is going on here on a deeper level.

Let’s start with the most fundamental. Ron Paul can win the Republican nomination and he can become president. Of this there is no doubt. Lets look at the facts:

1. Ron Paul announced his candidacy in the first quarter of last year. At the time he was known to a very small minority of those who were alive to the serious problems that the republic is facing. For those who understood his message back then, we were all excited when we heard the news and if we admit it, we all felt something of destiny in the air. Finally, these issues would have a forum and truth would come out. When truth comes out, it does its own work. And it did. Miracle after miracle seemed to occur propelling Ron Paul to the top against all odds (see my you tube video to remind you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GahDESc5zFw and GHoeberx’s excellent offering http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hy5u7C4x0A&feature=related). Except, for those who understood what was going on, they weren’t miracles at all. It was simply truth and integrity finding its way through to a place so starved of it that one spark caused a forest fire. It seemed that the impossible was achieved, but a part of us understood that this was really just the natural course of events.

2. Practically everyone in the country is a Ron Paul supporter. They just don’t know it yet. We have been deprived of truth for so long that black is white and up is down. You may be fiercely pro-war until you realize that you were lied to, deceived and mercilessly exploited. You may believe that patriotism is a fierce unbending loyalty to the president until you see the blueprint for tyranny played out over and over again in history and become aware of all the steps towards despotism this administration has taken. You may believe that the compassionate thing to do is to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants until you realize that elite interests use illegal immigration to drive down wages, exploit their’s and our human rights and dilute the democratic power of the people. You may be fiercely Democrat and anti-Bush until you realize that the same elite interests are behind Clinton and Obama. We are all Ron Paul supporters, we just have to remind ourselves and our less informed brothers and sisters.

So remember how far we’ve come but also remember that all the seemingly impossible events that have taken place so far, on a deeper level were not impossible, they were inevitable. Project that into the future, the magic is still there, it is even stronger. And remember that we are all Ron Paul supporters waiting for our spark within to be ignited by the flame of truth. So we have to do two things.

1. We have to believe even stronger that the campaign will succeed. We have to demonstrate our belief so vehemently that people around us think we are absolutely nuts and can’t seem to find an explanation why we are so confident that Ron Paul’s message will triumph. They may get angry, they may become confused, they may ridicule but all of these things occur as part of a process of awakening to a truth that has been long rejected.

2. We have to manifest that belief through action. We must redouble and redouble and redouble our efforts. We must have new fundraising days that break the records again. We must have more creative ideas like the blimp. We must write even more articles, make more youtube videos and go out there door to door. We have to confound the rest of the country with our activity and confidence. We must take pleasure when people laugh at us for doing it because we know that that ridicule is the beginning of the process of understanding and acceptance. Good ideas are always ridiculed and rejected at first, if they are really any good.

One idea I had to represent this surge in confidence that we should manifest, is to stop calling Ron, Dr. or Congressman Paul and start calling him President Paul. Everything we write, every new banner, tshirt, blimp made, every time we mention his name in conversation… President Paul. It will mark a change and may even become a news story in itself if it catches on. It will be ridiculed but it will open a box in people minds that this guy is going to go all the way.
(just a crazy idea you dont have to agree with it!)

The message is clear to us, the policies are right, the issues are complex. It is upon us to make the case. That is why I am in the middle of making a new video which will reveal to people the extent of the police state and connect it to Paul’s policies. We all need to take on different issues and make them crystal clear to blow apart any of the perpetual misdirection of the mainstream. We need to make our fellow countrymen and women aware of the present danger we are in.

Ron Paul can win. But we also have to remember that there is a deeper battle going on here than just a presidential race. Any time Ron Paul gets airtime, he gets a public forum for ideas and facts that historically have had great trouble penetrating the mainstream. One more person who comes out in support of Paul will be transformed for ever. The genie has left the bottle. Remember when you found out about the federal reserve, or about America’s dark past of global empire or the complex insidious web of the military industrial complex bound together by secret societies. There was no going back, you were changed forever and your politics was changed forever. The effect of the Ron Paul revolution is that America will be changed forever. The world will be changed forever. The grand experiment of 1776 changed the world. 2008 will be remembered in just such a way. So in this vein, the longer we keep Ron Paul in the news, the more the country will be changed. Eventually, who is nominally at the top will make no difference. An active and aware populace will triumph.

A small note on unity. We are all Ron Paul supporters but because we are we respect difference, individuality and the right to question and challenge, we are more diverse and more divided than supporters of any other candidate. However, because we believe uppermost in the rights of the individual, the deep bonds that hold us together are infinitely stronger than any other group of supporters. The elite interests use this to divide us but we have to keep going back to focusing on what unites us rather than divides us. 911 is one of the most important issues of the 21st century and we should keep pushing for resolution, but a good general knows which battles to fight in the greater war. Don’t get hung up on this issue, Ron Paul ceaselessly talks about government sponsored terror. I think people sometimes forget what Ron Paul represents. This is a man who put forward a bill to remove the US from the UN. This is a man who has sat practically alone in congress for 20 years championing the issues that no-one even knew about. This is a man used to ridicule. Ask yourself why 911 is such a big issue, then ask yourself what allowed it to happen and then ask yourself what needs to be done to remedy the situation. Ron Paul addresses all of this. Secondly, it hardly needs to be said in my mind, but I’m going to say it anyway. Alex Jones is the best thing that has ever happened in politics in the US. He is a just one man taking a stand but in the group psyche he is more than that, he is an elemental force beaming light into the darkness where most of us are afraid to shine it with such intensity. You don’t have to believe anything he says, he doesn’t ask you to by the way. If we are honest, we all draw strength from what he reflects in ourselves and sometimes awareness of that scares us and we project it back on to him. You know it Alex, but we love you, we stand with you and we step up to the plate to take responsibility in the infowar.

So, get back into the fray with ten times the resolve and dedication. Let’s break some new records. Let’s make ourselves heard louder than ever before. Remember, to buy into these early results is to buy into the grand psyop that the mass media wants us to buy into. The psyop that only candidates who already have support and are already known, will make it. Of course they know that just by saying that, they are making it real. By believing the opposite, stronger and and in greater number, we will prevail. We already have a Republican candidate for president, we already have a president, his name is President Paul.

[Iysun77]

Someone mentioned this idea from another post and I think its great.

The Ron Paul Campaign should count its own votes somehow. This way we could get comparable evidence that would probably contradict the official poll count.. I’m sure most supporters would not mind signing some sort of official Ron Paul document stating that they voted for Ron Paul. It woudnt take long to spread the idea around and get some pretty accurate counts.

What are your thoughts?

[thegarkoblog]

Ron Paul - The Secret Plan (the best Ron Paul posting ever)

I found this on another forum and it sure makes points for me.

Remember the secret plan? You’re about to see it

The money was purposefully saved, prepare to get sick of Ron on national TV.

and,

I just gave you all I knew.

They were undershooting so they could get 3rd in the first two states…they weren’t far off in either. They didn’t WANT first, as it’s politically bad with super tuesday so far off (call it the buchannon effect).

Then comes the media blitz, you WILL see the money, and they WILL be targeting proper demographics now that they have the info, this is how he has won all of his elections. No other republican can effectively use the demographic information (fix the economy, end the war).

[Pupil]

Interesting theory, and very plausable.

One thing to note: Guiliani has also played it very low key, so he may be persuing the same strategy. Not that there would be much of a contest between the two, but Giuliani's obviously keeping a low profile at the moment.

[mickswann]

I don't care if Dr. Paul runs on the Martian Party ticket, he's got my vote.  Period. 

I'm a bit annoyed at his refusal to run as an Independent, but, I suppose, he's no stranger to politics and he knows full well that "democracy" in the US means government by the Republacrat party.

[sovereignson]

  When it comes to the 911 truth questions...

  I'd just like Ron to address it in a manner more becoming of his message.  The founders certainly encouraged the people not to trust government.  There are many ways that Ron could gain ever greater support by paying compliments to the truth movement and still maintain his personal opinion.  Let it be known that it is a healthy thing for Americans to keep a close eye on 'WE THE PEOPLE'S' public servants!!!  It's not gonna hurt anyone's feeling's stating that the truth about what happened on 911 is of the utmost importance for the security of the nation.  That it doesn't hurt to have more than one 'team' investigating what many consider the worst crime ever committed on American soil.  Besides that, 911 truthers are in the private sector, the tax payer's are getting this investigation at no charge!!!  And I seem to recall Ron stating that the private sector out perform's government... once in awhile.  IT SEEMS NO DIFFERANT THAN WHAT THIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN AND IT'S SUPPORTER'S ARE DOING/SAYING WITH/ABOUT THE VOTE FRAUD ISSUE!!!  I wonder which of the two poses a greater threat? They both lead to a dark future!  A great reason to give for becoming more knowledgable is your past experiences with fox persuaded you into doing some research...

  Ron is free to address these types of questions however he chooses, I'm just not use to Ron not sticking up for the people and showing them proper respect.  All I am asking of Ron is to recognize the 911 truth movement in its positive light, let it be known that not all 911truther's are of the same opinion, do it in a way which brings ever greater support to this Ron Paul Revolution, in a manner that gives every one of 'WE THE PEOPLE' that special feeling of pride, as only the one and only Dr. Ron Paul can!!!  Hell Ron, go to http://stj911.org and read some of the scientific analysis and research done by a highly respected Dr. Steven E. Jones.  Be prepared to gain an even greater urgency to win this election, and realization of how/why this elevates concern for your personal security.

  I have been a strong Ron Paul supporter for 5+ years, I've never seen anyone more deserving or qualified for the position.  Thank you Ron, for your willingness to make this personal sacrifice of your freedom, for all of 'WE THE PEOPLE' and this country we all use to love!!!

[Joe(WI)]

Has anyone else gotten this response "Yeah, I think Ron Paul would make a great pres, but he ain't gonna win"

I must have heard this a dozen times this week! Some NWO turd(Rove)blossom has been planting the idea I bet!

Also, last night I heard Savage(not my idea of quality) saying the whiners want recounts. An end to the pollster BS. Now shut the hell up. Mmmmm, talking points, sound bites, much easier than thinking! Tastes just like CHICKEN!

[mickswann]

Has anyone else gotten this response "Yeah, I think Ron Paul would make a great pres, but he ain't gonna win"

I must have heard this a dozen times this week! Some NWO turd(Rove)blossom has been planting the idea I bet!

Also, last night I heard Savage(not my idea of quality) saying the whiners want recounts. An end to the pollster BS. Now shut the hell up. Mmmmm, talking points, sound bites, much easier than thinking! Tastes just like CHICKEN!

You have to admit, though, that the odds are stacked against him. The people he's running against are backed by the people who own the government and the media.

[pac522]

You have to admit, though, that the odds are stacked against him. The people he's running against are backed by the people who own the government and the media.

And what is Paul backed by?

The People.

If the people be led by laws, and uniformity among them be sought by punishments, they will try to escape punishment and have no sense of shame. If they are led by virtue, and uniformity sought among them through the practice of ritual propriety, they will possess a sense of shame and come to you of their own accord

[Femacamper]

It's either President Ron Paul, or Ron Paul Revolution.

Either way, we win.

[mickswann]

And what is Paul backed by?

The People.

If the people be led by laws, and uniformity among them be sought by punishments, they will try to escape punishment and have no sense of shame. If they are led by virtue, and uniformity sought among them through the practice of ritual propriety, they will possess a sense of shame and come to you of their own accord

I suppose it all hinges on whether you have any faith in the electoral system.

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td13/20.html

[pac522]

I suppose it all hinges on whether you have any faith in the electoral system.

http://www.truedemocracy.net/td13/20.html

No it hinges on me having faith in people. People just like me, who just like I once did, have their head buried in the sand. The faith that people will pull their head out of the sand or their ass or where ever it may be and to open their eyes, to use critical thinking to analyze, evaluate, explain whats hidden in plain view.

This fight doesn't end with Ron Paul, it's just beginning.

[Lasthorseman]

Another wake up video.
http://blip.tv/file/520347/

[mickswann]

No it hinges on me having faith in people. People just like me, who just like I once did, have their head buried in the sand. The faith that people will pull their head out of the sand or their ass or where ever it may be and to open their eyes, to use critical thinking to analyze, evaluate, explain whats hidden in plain view.

This fight doesn't end with Ron Paul, it's just beginning.

When you put it that way you make a very fair point. If he gained that degree of popular support, which I'm certain he would if he won, then he could certainly make a massive change.

He would definitely be a two-term president, I think we could all agree on that, and the people are getting sick of having only Bushes and Clintons in power.

[bernayssucks]

Best Ron Paul police state vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA-MOr-i6vQ