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Freeski
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« on: November 19, 2011, 07:47:20 PM »

The video is off but the sound is good. Ron gets a HUGE applause for the idea of ending government involvement in education. States and provinces should do the same, and the cities! And he ends strong.

Thanksgiving Family Forum - Ron Paul Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElVCO5mdTrk

No one but Ron Paul!

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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 12:49:52 AM »

Fantastic. Thanks for the link.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 07:58:19 AM »

I can't seem to find the whole debate?  Any suggestions?
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 08:16:27 AM »

I found a link for the full debate:

http://bostinnovation.com/2011/11/20/full-video-gop-presidential-debate-iowa-thanksgiving-family-forum/
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 03:50:05 PM »

According to lewrockwell.com:

Ron Paul Takes Down Bob Schieffer
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul781.html

NB: CBS's Bob Schlieffer promised Ron 20 minutes on Face the Nation, but cut him off after 10, because he was demolishing that establishment shill. Catch Schlieffer's smirk at the end. Also, there was a loud, very distracting buzzing from Ron's earpiece during the entire interview. Deliberate? Who knows, but the flaw had been pointed out again and again 15 minutes before airtime. Of course, the annoying buzz did not work, if intentional.

And the 10-minute video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-pf5eJlDupo
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 04:13:35 PM »

Not that I am a fan of the NEA but shouldn't there be some kind of national standard ?  I mean can we really trust states like Arkansas, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisianna, Georgia, and Florida to run education ?

Too bad the internet didn't come out in the 1970s when education was still valued.  In the 1970s and 1980s you couldn't put a Jerry Springer, Jersey Shore, Diva House-Wives of Anytown USA,  back then it would have insulted too many Americans' collective intelligence.

Now the internet is being used to repair America's collective stupidity into an pseudo-education nation.

However it'll be 50 years before just the internet effect reverses the trend.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 04:47:13 PM »

Not that I am a fan of the NEA but shouldn't there be some kind of national standard ?  I mean can we really trust states like Arkansas, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisianna, Georgia, and Florida to run education ?

Why is a national standard needed? If you leave it up to private schools there would be competition to produce the best students, the cost would be much lower and there would always be independent thought and divergent opinion - not to mention far less corruption, political correctness and other forms of indoctrination. It's nothing but win!

As for "trusting" states like the above mentioned to run education, if you can't trust them - or any population - how does it make sense to allow a few select representatives from those same populations to run it for those whom we do not trust, especially considering such positions of power and authority tend to attract the worst among us?

State involvement in education is flawed at the core.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 04:58:45 PM »

What I propose if that the Federal Government propose a floor standard for education and then the states work up from that.

If education were an aircraft the NTSB would be trying to piece it back together trying to figure what went wrong.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 07:13:03 PM »

Top down control of anything is bad because it stifles original and independent thought.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2011, 02:08:04 PM »

Top down control of anything is bad because it stifles original and independent thought.
Example: 

Roman Catholic Church vs. Protesters (Dark Ages on down)
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