David Icke is off the hook!!!!

[DeusServoNobis]

Rendering evil for evil isn't good though, which concept I'm sure your aware of. There is a right and a wrong way to point out another's errors. God willing, we all can help each other remember that. I know I need a reminder now and again.

I don't think it's a light thing to play with calling people a provocateur. That can have serious effects on a person's credibility online. It might be better to make really sure they are what you allege before openly in public making the allegation or even inference, though it my be in jest.

If we look for the better way of doing things, it might be a little better for everyone.

You sure set your sights on me huh? First you attack my character on my thread. Then you attack me through personal messages after being warned about something. Then here we find you again attacking my character by trying to put it into question. You sure you not another agent provocateur?  Like hazmat on another account or something?

[Freeski]

There is a right and a wrong way to point out another's errors. God willing, we all can help each other remember that. I know I need a reminder now and again.

Kilika, OT I know but can you (or anyone) point me to a nice to-the-point Christian view as to the "right way" to point out another's errors? I have a family member who really needs this info, and all of our past and current efforts have failed to get through to her. Basically, she is disowning much of her family for their faults over the past forty years -- and she's obsessed with Jesus, even though she doesn't practice what she preaches. Thanks in advance!

[Kilika]

No, I'm just trying the spirit of a man. And it's getting real clear. Just keep posting. Your own words betray you. You have alluded to a Christian faith, and when soeone does that I take note, seeing it may well be a new brther or sister, so we are exhorted to try the spirits whether they are of God. Many end not of God at all, others young and confused in the faith, and others are true brethren. You know them by their fruits. THAT is why I have conversed with you.

This forum is about TRUTH. And truth has many topics. Religion is just one of them. The point is lies and deception should be pointed ut here by every member, to help promote what is really true in the world around us. If new people are not confronted about what they post, then the bad posters would simply take over all forums. You come across as being way too intelligent to not know that.

It is interesting that when I exhort you to do something better that all would benefit from, to look for a better way to communicate that might reduce offenses, you turn and rend. Hmm, interesting. Thank you Jesus for discernment. You did say you are Christian didn't you?

And you know also that pm was for this very reason, so as to not talk about an off-topic point in the thread. I told you that, and here you go provoking me out in the open. Yeah, interesting spirit you have there.

I think I've seen plenty to know what manner of spirit you are of.

[Kilika]

Kilika, OT I know but can you (or anyone) point me to a nice to-the-point Christian view as to the "right way" to point out another's errors? I have a family member who really needs this info, and all of our past and current efforts have failed to get through to her. Basically, she is disowning much of her family for their faults over the past forty years -- and she's obsessed with Jesus, even though she doesn't practice what she preaches. Thanks in advance!

Would you send me a pm and describe a little more detail?

It sounds like you and others believe that a person is not approaching people correctly about what they perceive as errors? Hmm, does she say what her basis for doing it that way is? What scripture does she use, etc? Need a little more detail God willing. 

[DeusServoNobis]

Kilika, OT I know but can you (or anyone) point me to a nice to-the-point Christian view as to the "right way" to point out another's errors? I have a family member who really needs this info, and all of our past and current efforts have failed to get through to her. Basically, she is disowning much of her family for their faults over the past forty years -- and she's obsessed with Jesus, even though she doesn't practice what she preaches. Thanks in advance!

Sorry to jump in but, I would have to say for them to patch thing up, they all need to stop pointing fingers at each other and look at themselves. Question themselves on what they did to make her feel the way she does about them and I mean really take a loot at themselves. They must have done some pretty messed up stuff for her to want to disown them. Maybe her obsession in Jesus who is her roll model and all that is good, is making her raise the bar of her standards in what she believes to be right and true. So in turn making here less tolerable the sinful things her family members have done or do. I would say this is fine as long as her righteousness does not turn into self righteousness. Sometimes people need to be alone to find themselves so maybe she just feels she needs to be away from her family right now.

You are basically asking Kilika how to pass judgment on someone in a way that you can hold your Christianity over them. Therefore doing what you think she is doing to her family. What you said here seems to be an attempt to back up Kilika's attack on me by trying to boost his credibility, indicating that you may be working together in some way. Not that I am saying this is the case, but it just appears that way.

[DeusServoNobis]

I just have to ask, what is it you look to accomplish by attacking me Kilika? What do you look to gain for yourself here or what is your goal in all this? I can tell you that whatever it is, you wont get it from me. You wont be able to change my mind so what is it then? Nothing I have said on the forum would in any way resemble an attempt to bring someone further away from God or make them cease to look for him or his truth. Nothing I said goes against what is written in the bible as well so what is it you really want? I find it funny that you try to defend people who provoke fights and promote segregation that I call agent provocateurs. Am I catching too many of your buddies or what?  You guys make yourselves to obvious.

[Freeski]

What you said here seems to be an attempt to back up Kilika's attack on me by trying to boost his credibility, indicating that you may be working together in some way. Not that I am saying this is the case, but it just appears that way.

No ulterior motive here. Just looking for help. Sorry to be off topic.

[DeusServoNobis]

No ulterior motive here. Just looking for help. Sorry to be off topic.

I can say that the more you try to push you way in, it will just push her further away from them. In cases such as this, force is not the best option. Have the family reassess themselves as well as the lady in question. The next time they meet, their first words should be I am truly sorry for.... And they need to mean it. In turn she will probably say well I am sorry for being....

You don't need a book to tell you how to love someone even if it is the Bible. It's better to have hands on experience for these types of things. Approach her in the way that you would want to be approached if you were in her shoes. Deal through the matter in the same way and don't point fingers at each other so that tensions don't build up. Be calm and think about what you want to say thoroughly before you say it, as to not confuse yourself or the girl through misunderstanding. Try that maybe.

[HAZMAT]

All you are doing is attacking people and making assumptions about people. Take a chill pill relax, and think about what you are saying... Sheesh. I am totally trying to create a divide, it seems you can't even disagree about things anymore without someone getting their panties in a bunch.

[Rtruth]

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[DeusServoNobis]

All you are doing is attacking people and making assumptions about people. Take a chill pill relax, and think about what you are saying... Sheesh. I am totally trying to create a divide, it seems you can't even disagree about things anymore without someone getting their panties in a bunch.

Sorry but trying to turn the tables on me in order to get the spotlight off you, is a bit sad on your end when you were the first to start attacking people and labeling them, thus making the divide among the people you try to call your peers. You come here with with your open arms looking saying embrace me and fallow me brothers, yet your heart looks to twist a knife into their back. Anyone can clearly see what you and others like you are doing. You are so blinded by yourself that you betray without even realizing it or stopping to question yourself or what you are truly doing. For shame. 

[DeusServoNobis]

You come here with with your open arms looking saying embrace me and fallow me brothers, yet your heart looks to twist a knife into their back.

I meant that you come here with open arms, saying embrace me brother and fallow me, while you try to turn him against others through the underlining meanings of your words.