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« on: November 02, 2011, 04:58:06 PM »


Here’s how the media are viewing the once-hottest news story: Occupy Wall Street is 99% dead.

In the first phase of Occupy Wall Street, journalists were dazzled by the spirit and the anger of the participants. For a brief, flickering moment, the idea of rallying as an economically aggrieved 99% of the population had terrific potential.

Reporters trekked to Zuccotti Park to observe the latest link in the chain, advancing from the anti–Vietnam War protests of the ’60s and ’70s to the anti-nuclear-power demonstrations that followed them.

Now we’re seeing the lamentable second wave of the Occupy Wall Street story. The spirit has been muffled by people who want to cash in on the popularity of Occupy Wall Street and exploit the participants’ idealism.

Sure, the crowds of supporters and sympathizers will continue to gather at Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan, the starting point for what became a global movement. And, yes, similar groups will congregate elsewhere around the world. You can be sure that this news story will rank prominently in those year-end retrospective pieces.

I wrote in this space a few weeks ago that Occupy Wall Street would become corrupted by big business, which would exploit the popularity of the movement to sell blue jeans, T-shirts and beer. I wasn’t far off.

We’ve heard rumblings that MTV’s /quotes/zigman/393425/quotes/nls/via VIA +1.33%  “Real World“ is scouting people between the ages of 20 and 24 for a series with an Occupy Wall Street theme.

In another sign that Occupy Wall Street is ripe for exploitation, there is actually a website called Hot Chicks of Occupy Wall Street .

Further, the Associated Press has noted that some in the movement are attempting to trademark the phrase “Occupy Wall Street.” Some of the leaders “filed an application Oct. 24 to trademark the name of their movement with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.” The source of the information was one of the group’s lawyers.

The media, serving as a proxy for the general population, are impatient and bored by what outwardly seems like a marked lack of progress.

No less an authority on American social movements than folk singer Joan Baez, a notable dissident during the eras of the Vietnam and nuclear protests, said: “I’ll be convinced when it develops a real direction. ... So far it’s hard to tell.”

The only time someone gets excited about the protests these days is when some external force intervenes, such as when New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg attempted (unsuccessfully) to clear the park, purportedly to clean it.

In a 24/7 news cycle, interest wanes quickly. Occupy Wall Street couldn’t, or wouldn’t, hold journalists’ attention.

We now cover Occupy Wall Street the way we handle the daily weather report, traffic and rail reports — dispassionately, briefly and by rote. For the media, the excitement has gone out of the story.

MEDIA WEB QUESTION OF THE DAY: Do you think Occupy Wall Street’s moment in the sun has passed or am I being shortsighted?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/occupy-wall-street-is-99-dead-2011-11-02?link=MW_story_popular
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 05:14:24 PM »

Nah it's suffering the TEA-Party effect, where as a political movement is imploded from the inside.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 10:12:38 AM »

Probably 99% cold.  There's no sense in "occupying" when banksters aren't coming out and walking around outside anyway. Gerald Celente said that part of OWS was to see how the justice system is skewed to arrest the 99% while the 1% go scot free.  The peasants can put their pitchforks down and work with "sanctions" now while the OWS message is soaking down to the roots of the people.  Remember that 40,000 people were killed in the war in Libya, according to Alex Jones' "conservative estimate".  Foreigners view Americans as part of the 1% and Americans need to disassociate themselves from the 1% and debt-slavery-financed wars.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2011, 10:26:01 AM »

A movement only goes a short distance, while a true revolution comes back around to smack you in the back of the head.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2011, 10:49:48 AM »

Re: "Occupy Wall Street is 99% dead" -- WSJ  = 99% propaganda

The bankers will try ANYTHING (MSM propaganda, foundation funded intel operatives, left lib gate keeper celebs, Police moving homeless into the OWS areas) to stop this movement.

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Webster Tarpley on Jeff Rense last night discussing OWS latest.

http://tarpley.net/audio/20111102-WGT_on_Rense.mp3
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2011, 10:50:51 AM »

Re: "Occupy Wall Street is 99% dead" -- WSJ  = 99% propaganda

The bankers will try ANYTHING (MSM propaganda, foundation funded intel operatives, left lib gate keeper celebs) to stop this movement.

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Webster Tarpley on Jeff Rense last night discussing OWS latest.

http://tarpley.net/audio/20111102-WGT_on_Rense.mp3

Even co-opt the movement?!
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 10:52:39 AM »

Even co-opt the movement?!

that is the point--they are doing everything to lead the opposition or destroy it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 12:41:22 PM »

that is the point--they are doing everything to lead the opposition or destroy it.
The GOV fed the machine, wall streeters , had they been regulated by honest Americans , they wouldn't have stuck their necks out there. The FED, the same, Pentagon, and on and on. So what is the focus point, the OLE bullseye-the regime and those who pull the strings.
  What would get the attention of these freaks, Christians, there are many  millions aren't there. Well if only a million of them decided they should do something, about the wars, genocide, torture, casualty counts over a million, and held candle light vigil marches in WDC, the MSM would be forced to give coverage..War is the bottom line to the elites power, it was in Vietnam it is now..
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 01:02:42 PM »

that is the point--they are doing everything to lead the opposition or destroy it.

I know, which is why I was segueing into the fact that it is almost completely co-opted now. It was legit up to a point, but it is now discredited and co-opted astro-turf. The movement is dead. Maybe people will see that, and realize we do not need a movement, we need a revolution of sorts.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2011, 01:15:01 PM »

Re: "Occupy Wall Street is 99% dead" -- WSJ  = 99% propaganda

The bankers will try ANYTHING (MSM propaganda, foundation funded intel operatives, left lib gate keeper celebs, Police moving homeless into the OWS areas) to stop this movement.

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Webster Tarpley on Jeff Rense last night discussing OWS latest.

http://tarpley.net/audio/20111102-WGT_on_Rense.mp3

Tarpley is right when he says that, instead of being armchair critics who do nothing but complain about all the things the largely misguided Occupy Wall Street protestors are doing wrong, we should first tell the Democratic Party operatives attempting to hijack this movement to go "Cheney" themselves and then join forces with the legitimate protestors for the purpose of channelling this energy in the right direction.

But to do that, we must master the art of finding common ground with people:

     http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=198869.0

And we can't find common ground with people if we're too busy attaching red-baiting labels to them every time they express a viewpoint that in any way conflicts with the anarcho-capitalist dogma of the privatize-everything Austrian School. Hence the point I'm always making that we must stop letting label-obsessed reactionaries (whether from the "left" or the "right") dominate political discourse in this country, otherwise they'll continue to destroy unifying dialogue before it even has a chance to start.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2011, 01:44:36 PM »

I know, which is why I was segueing into the fact that it is almost completely co-opted now. It was legit up to a point, but it is now discredited and co-opted astro-turf. The movement is dead. Maybe people will see that, and realize we do not need a movement, we need a revolution of sorts.

I disagree. The Nurse's Union is one of the stars to emerge from this movement, they have goals: 1% Wall Street Transaction Tax/Tobin Tax. If the other groups follow suit, with some concrete goals, this movement will have teeth and not just left lib rhetoric.

The Occupy Movement emerged full blown with backers/website thanks to Ad Busters (a foundation operation.) From the start is was being run by those it was posing to protest against--Just like Lenin said "We will lead the opposition to control it."
The problem for the elites: many of the people protesting are for real and they have real issues slowly being tapped into.

This movement may relocate to another ground for the coming confrontation between the haves and the have-nots. Your revolution is in the making.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2011, 01:55:41 PM »

But to do that, we must master the art of finding common ground with people:

I think that is a very noble and genuine fact, because without it you will get nowhere. It's also true that finding people in this day and age with similar view points isn't going to be frequent. There are many that believe they also hold all the answers to the issues and may not agree with your opinions.

But you you don't want to start arguments of fights over differences and do establish common ground. It's important, in order to achieve common ground that you actually listen to what the other person or people are saying and acknowledge their right to have those opinions or you will get nowhere.

Of course I'm not referring to this bogus article, but actual encounters you have with real people, other mensches.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 04:21:46 PM »

But you you don't want to start arguments of fights over differences and do establish common ground. It's important, in order to achieve common ground that you actually listen to what the other person or people are saying and acknowledge their right to have those opinions or you will get nowhere.

Hi J.
 All roads lead to Rome, if that's the correct expression. It all comes down to the fact our GOV is corrupted, diseased, infested with parasites. As for me, I'm elated ,,folks are attempting to speak out, it makes my day. Ya sure it would be better if they got on one channel, but they are off the couches and into the street, doing what Americans are suppose to do.
 These demos are not getting the attention they deserve, that's their MSM for ya, playing the people.
These people are braving the elements, the goon squads, and no matter what they're stance may be, in final it will be the GOV-Elites that are under the spotlight.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 04:31:46 PM »

I too have noticed that the OWS movement is losing a great deal of impact.  Their numbers have gone way down and the web sights have lost tons of viewers also. 
  You do not need an article to witness this.  Just go to the web sight or look at the video footage.  They had one good day and that is just about it.
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2011, 04:53:45 PM »

I too have noticed that the OWS movement is losing a great deal of impact.  Their numbers have gone way down and the web sights have lost tons of viewers also. 
  You do not need an article to witness this.  Just go to the web sight or look at the video footage.  They had one good day and that is just about it.
 Roll Eyes
Hi triton.  It's getting cold, if this were July it may be a tad different. The glove was tossed on the ground, no matter what its a message to the Gov. They are watching us, OK, we are now watching them.
 We are not the complete moronic mass lining up for them.
They have expected a small percent of Americans to speak out, they know they have crossed the line long ago, the demos, despite mixed messages, confirm the fact we are not pleased, we are America.
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2011, 05:01:40 PM »

The weather certainly does not make internet use go down.  Their numbers are indeed falling swiftly.  Perhaps it was their refusal to allow talk of the federal reserve or mention that Obama was paid for by the bankers.  Whatever the reason it is not the weather that killed this movement.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2011, 05:39:49 PM »

The weather certainly does not make internet use go down.  Their numbers are indeed falling swiftly.  Perhaps it was their refusal to allow talk of the federal reserve or mention that Obama was paid for by the bankers.  Whatever the reason it is not the weather that killed this movement.

See, this is sort of my line of thinking; Peoples bullshit meters are going off left and right for differing reasons. I think they figured out that the movement was getting co-opted, they didn't like the mix of messages or agendas, and they are filtering out, because yet again, their distinct voice is not being heard with the impact they want or need.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2011, 07:50:07 PM »

OWS was "co-opted" from the get-go.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27053

Occupy Wall Street and "The American Autumn": Is It a "Colored Revolution"?
Part I

by Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, October 13, 2011

There is a grassroots protest movement unfolding across America, which includes people from all walks of life, from all age groups, conscious of the need for social change and committed to reversing the tide.

The grassroots of this movement constitutes a response to the "Wall Street agenda" of financial fraud and manipulation which has served to trigger unemployment and poverty across the land. 

Does this movement constitute in its present form an instrument of meaningful reform and social change in America?

What is the organizational structure of the movement? Who are its main architects?

Has the movement or segments within this movement been co-opted?

This is an important question, which must be addressed by those who are part of the Occupy Wall Street Movement as well as those who, across America, support real democracy.

Introduction


Historically, progressive social movements have been infiltrated, their leaders co-opted and manipulated, through the corporate funding of non-governmental organizations, trade unions and political parties. The ultimate purpose of "funding dissent" is to prevent the protest movement from challenging  the legitimacy of the economic elites:

    "In a bitter irony, part of the fraudulent financial gains on Wall Street in recent years have been recycled to the elites' tax exempt foundations and charities. These windfall financial gains have not only been used to buy out politicians, they have also been channelled to NGOs, research institutes, community centres, church groups, environmentalists, alternative media, human rights groups, etc.

    The inner objective is to "manufacture dissent" and establish the boundaries of a "politically correct" opposition. In turn, many NGOs are infiltrated by informants often acting on behalf of western intelligence agencies. Moreover, an increasingly large segment of the progressive alternative news media on the internet has become dependent on funding from corporate foundations and charities.

    The objective of the corporate elites has been to fragment the people's movement into a vast "do it yourself" mosaic." (See Michel Chossudovsky, Manufacturing Dissent: the Anti-globalization Movement is Funded by the Corporate Elites, Global Research, September 20, 2010)

"Manufacturing Dissent"

At the same time, "manufactured dissent" is intent upon promoting political and social divisions (e.g. within and between political parties and social movements). In turn, it encourages the creation of factions within each and every organization.

With regard to the anti-globalization movement, this process of division and fragmentation dates back to the early days of the World Social Forum. (See Michel Chossudovsky, Manufacturing Dissent: The Anti-globalization Movement is Funded by the Corporate Elites, Global Research, September 20, 2010)

Most of the progressive organizations of the post-World War II period, including the European "Left" have, in the course of the last thirty years, been transformed and remoulded. The "Free Market" system (Neoliberalism) is the consensus of the "Left". This applies, among others, to the Socialist Party in France, the Labour Party in Britain, the Social Democrats in Germany, not to mention the Green Party in France and Germany.

In the US, bi-partisanship is not the result of the interplay of Congressional party politics. A handful of powerful corporate lobby groups control both the Republicans and the Democrats. The "bi-partisan consensus" is established by the elites who operate behind the scenes. It is enforced by the main corporate lobby groups, which exert a stranglehold over both major political parties. 

In turn, the leaders of the AFL-CIO have also been co-opted by the corporate establishment against the grassroots of the US labor movement.

The leaders of organized labor attend the annual meetings of the Davos World Economic Forum (WEF). They collaborate with the Business Roundtable. But at the same time, the grassroots of the US labor movement has sought to to carry out organizational changes which contribute to democratizing the leadership of individual trade unions.

The elites will promote a "ritual of dissent" with a high media profile, with the support of network TV, the corporate news as well as the internet.

The economic elites -- which control major foundations -- also oversee the funding of numerous civil society organizations, which historically have been involved in the protest movement against the established economic and social order. The programs of many NGOs (including those involved in the Occupy Wall Street Movement) rely heavily on funding from private foundations including the Ford, Rockefeller, MacArthur, Tides foundations, among others.

Historically, the anti-globalization movement which emerged in the 1990s has opposed Wall Street and the Texas oil giants controlled by Rockefeller, et al. Yet the foundations and charities of Rockefeller, Ford et al have, over the years, generously funded progressive anti-capitalist networks as well as environmentalists (opposed to Big Oil) with a view to ultimately overseeing and shaping their various activities.

"Colored Revolutions"


In the course of the last decade, "colored revolutions" have emerged in several countries. The "colored revolutions" are US intelligence ops which consist in covertly supporting protest movements with a view to triggering "regime change" under the banner of a pro-democracy movement.

"Colored revolutions" are supported by the National Endowment for Democracy, the International Republican Institute and Freedom House, among others. The objective of a "colored revolution" is to foment social unrest and use the protest movement to topple the existing government. The ultimate foreign policy goal is to instate a compliant pro-US government (or "puppet regime").

"The Arab Spring"

In Egypt's "Arab Spring", the main civil society organizations including  Kifaya (Enough) and The April 6 Youth Movement were not only supported by US based foundations, they also had the endorsement of the US State Department. (For details see Michel Chossudovsky, The Protest Movement in Egypt: "Dictators" do not Dictate, They Obey Orders, Global Research, January 29, 2011)

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27053
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2011, 10:00:09 AM »

Peaceful Oakland, CA, OWS protestors try to stop Black Block Anarchists/Agent Provocateurs from violence.

Video on page-
http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/occupy-oakland-activists-fend-off-black-bloc-agents-provocateurs/

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"But the f__king black bloc only does their bullshi_t when the masses are mobilized, thus allowing the bourgeois press to write about all the “violence” and turn the criminal into the victim, and the victim into the criminal. These scumbags are parasites. At least the Weathermen had the guts to pull off their “days of rage” bulls__t on a day when there was no mass mobilization. The black bloc are a bunch of pussies by comparison."

Note from abve: "At least the Weathermen had the guts to pull off their “days of rage” bulls__t on a day when there was no mass mobilization."

As Webster Tarpley has said, the Weatherman were a foundation funded Agent Provocateur Operation to crash the peace movement/anti-war movement by turning the SDS Organization (Students for a Democratic Society) from non-violent to violent.

http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/occupy-oakland-activists-fend-off-black-bloc-agents-provocateurs/
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2011, 10:31:37 AM »

Latest World Crisis Radio with Webster Tarpley

Top of the show Webster interviews Eric Draitser about OWS: NYC and Oakland, CA

http://tarpley.net/audio/getfile.php?f=WCR-20111105.mp3

Eric Draitser's Twitter Feed -
http://twitter.com/#!/stopimperialism/

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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2011, 12:56:20 PM »

Latest from Eric Draitser

Listen to Eric on INN radio Nov. 3rd. 1st hr guest, 2nd hour my teach-in "Obama, Wall St, and the Anglo-American Empire"

http://mp3.ruleoflawradio.com/INN/64k/INN_Radio_2011-11-03_64k.mp3

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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2011, 01:13:51 PM »

I think that is a very noble and genuine fact, because without it you will get nowhere. It's also true that finding people in this day and age with similar view points isn't going to be frequent. There are many that believe they also hold all the answers to the issues and may not agree with your opinions.

But you you don't want to start arguments of fights over differences and do establish common ground. It's important, in order to achieve common ground that you actually listen to what the other person or people are saying and acknowledge their right to have those opinions or you will get nowhere.

Of course I'm not referring to this bogus article, but actual encounters you have with real people, other mensches.

This is so true.  Common ground and unification comes from developing a relationship (to an extent).  It takes work on both sides to find the Common Ground.

Especially since common ground amongst Americans has been purposely eroded for decades...  Uniting will defeat this collectivist takeover.  That is why so much time, money, false-education/dumbing down and outrageous practices have gone into isolating Americans and destroying the family for decades in our country. It is a societal breakdown.  We can fix it.

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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2011, 03:00:22 PM »

thank god its dead
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2011, 11:29:04 AM »

Occupy Systemic Change
November 8, 2011

RT Interview with Economist Michael Hudson

Hudson with Lauren Lyster, discussing shocking new census poverty figures and the coming change.

Video--(at about 5 mins. Hudson says Bill Clinton is a Slime-Ball)
http://michael-hudson.com/2011/11/occupy-systemic-change/

This rushed interview required more detail on solutions as can be heard here--

Hudson is in fine form on KPFK with Alan Minsky ripping Obama and the U.S. Supreme Court a new one.
17 minutes – worth doing the dishes to.
Listen as the topics fly thick and fast.
http://michael-hudson.com/wp-content/uploads/audio/Hudson_Alan_Minsky_Greece.mp3

and read here--

http://michael-hudson.com/2011/10/simon-patten-on-public-infrastructure-and-economic-rent-capture/
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2011, 08:37:33 PM »

I think Im going to start speaking in percentages, for example:

I was once the 65%, then in 2009 I became the 91%
I am now the 72%, but I am striving to become the 35%
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2011, 09:08:26 PM »

When I hear some moron go on about we are the 99 percent I instantly remember George the shrub Bush's "You are either with us or you are against us."  Both statement are equally moronic and false. Grin
   
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