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« on: October 31, 2011, 07:52:13 AM »

An Open Letter to Occupy Wall Street (or rather to the Democratic Party operatives who’ve hijacked it)

In your list of demands, you say you want to investigate, arrest and try the Wall Street criminals who caused the 2008 financial crisis. That’s all well and fine. But you fail or refuse to even mention the core privilege that allowed Wall Street mega-banks to become so rich and powerful in the first place -- fractional reserve banking. Is this omission your veiled way of saying you support allowing private banks to create our entire money supply as an interest-bearing debt to themselves, and that you therefore oppose replacing this privately-controlled, debt-based money system with a publicly-controlled, debt-free money system?  If so, then with “opponents” like you, the private banking cartel doesn’t need any allies!

You correctly point out that the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act -- particularly the provision that prohibited investment bankers from serving as officers of commercial banks -- directly contributed to the financial crisis. But you fail or refuse to even mention the quadrillion-dollar derivatives bubble to which the repeal of Glass-Steagall gave rise. Is this omission your veiled way of saying you oppose putting the derivatives-infected Wall Street mega-banks through Chapter 11 bankruptcy for the purpose of cancelling all of these glorified gambling bets, even though these bets are mathematically impossible to pay off (the derivatives bubble dwarfs not only the most liberal estimate of the U.S. money supply, but the annual productive output of the entire planet!), and even though failing to cancel them means said mega-banks will be able to continue using them as a means of extorting TRILLIONS of dollars from the public treasury? If so, then with "opponents" like you, these derivatives-peddling mega-banks don't need any allies!

You also fail or refuse to even mention the fact that, if “commercial banks” had never been given the power to create money out of nothing and loan it into circulation at interest, there would never have been a need for Glass-Steagall in the first place. Is this omission your veiled way of saying you want commercial banks to retain the power of extracting countless billions in usurious interest from the economy each year in exchange for the nothing out of which they create the non-existent “money” they loan? If so, then with “opponents” like you, these overprivileged banks don’t need any allies!

You say you want the rich to pay their “fair share” of taxes, yet say nothing about the extent to which workers and small business owners are being economically crushed by wage and income taxes, nor about how the anti-Georgist tax policy of taxing labor and capital to death while leaving land values comparatively untaxed would allow the rich to “claw back” -- via publicly-generated land gains -- however much you take from them via higher income taxes. Are these two omissions your veiled way of saying you don’t think anyone in the bottom 90% is deserving of tax relief, and that the government should continue subsidizing parasitic rent-seekers at the crippling expense of productive wage-earners and small business owners? If so, then with “friends” like you, lower- and middle-class Americans don’t need any enemies!

You say you want Congress to completely revamp the Securities and Exchange Commission so that it can protect the integrity of the market from financial predators. But once again you fail or refuse to even mention the key underlying privilege (fractional reserve banking) that created the apparent need for such “protection” -- and that ultimately allowed Wall Street mega-banks to become rich and powerful enough to buy off federal regulators -- in the first place. Is this omission yet another veiled way of saying you oppose eliminating that privilege? If so, then with “opponents” like you, the financial terrorists you presume to “protect” us all from don’t need any allies!

You say you want political candidates to be given “equal time” on public airwaves, yet say nothing about

(a) how ballot access laws are used by the corporate-owned Democratic and Republican parties to shield themselves from 3rd party competition (and how this, in turn, continually results in voters having to “choose” between two puppets of Wall Street);

(b) how the Federal Election Campaign Act and the Bipartisan Campaign “Reform” Act both serve to entrench the two-party duopoly even further;

(c) how electronic voting machines make our so-called “elections” ridiculously vulnerable to undetectable vote fraud; nor

(d) how instant runoff voting would not only allow people to vote for whomever they most agree with, for a change, instead of whichever of the two major candidates they think will screw them least, but, if instituted years ago, would have prevented George W. Bush from ever becoming President.

Is this omission your veiled way of saying you oppose all of the election reforms these facts illustrate the urgent need for? If so, then with “friends” like you, the tens of millions of Americans who’ve become equally disgusted with both major parties don’t need any enemies; and with “opponents” like you, the ruling-class oligarchs who own those parties don’t need any allies!

You say you want to build a wall between the war “defense” industry and the NWO "U.S." military, yet speak only of “reducing” unnecessary wars. Is this your veiled way of saying you oppose ending any of these wars? If so, then with “opponents” like you, the satanic war machine -- and the elite bankers who own it -- don’t need any allies!

Enjoy your thirty pieces of silver.
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 01:31:51 PM »

Wow, great read Geo. Do I have your permission to post this elsewhere?
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 01:38:23 PM »

Wow, great read Geo.

Thanks.

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Do I have your permission to post this elsewhere?

Sure, just as long as it's not altered in any way, and is credited to "Geolibertarian" from "Prison Planet Forum."

Let me know what response you get.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 08:29:26 AM »

Thanks.

Sure, just as long as it's not altered in any way, and is credited to "Geolibertarian" from "Prison Planet Forum."

Let me know what response you get.

Will do. I would never post it without giving you credit. We want people to know where great minds are exchanging ideas don't we?  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 03:14:39 AM »

Great piece!

Re-posted here: http://www.beercandle.com/showthread.php?t=25956
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 05:43:13 PM »

http://www.globalresearch.ca/here-s-the-risk-occupy-ends-up-doing-the-bidding-of-the-global-elite/27708

Here's the Risk: "Occupy" ends up doing the bidding of the global elite

by Patrick Henningsen
Global Research, November 16, 2011
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History shows us it is easy for 'grassroots' campaigns to become co-opted by the very interests they are fighting against.

A 21st-century grassroots movement faces many pitfalls. This was as true back in 1968 as it is today. It could be infiltrated by law enforcement and intelligence agencies, or co-opted by a major party. As the state continues to creep further into our lives, activists can expect that it will use all its resources – not just the violent reaction seen in New York overnight, but also its agents, informants and surveillance packages – in its effort to monitor both sides of any serious social debate. Even bleaker, however, is the possibility that the movement was actually planned and launched by the very establishment activists thought they were waging a battle against in the first place. The larger the movement, the more interested a major party becomes in absorbing it into either the left or the right side of the current two-party paradigm.

The sudden emergence of America's Tea Party movement in 2007 is a good example. Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, its inventor, used it as a springboard to highlight libertarian and constitutional issues during his 2008 campaign. Soon after, it was co-opted by key political and media influencers from the US right wing, associating itself less with a libertarian manifesto, and more with emerging figures within the Republican establishment. Now it is has morphed into nothing more than a block of voters whom the Republican party can rely to strike a deal with during an election cycle.

Arguably, the Occupy Wall Street movement has already drifted into the shadow of the Democratic party – with a number of Democratic establishment figures from the top down endorsing it. The Democrats' own media fundraising and media machine, Move On, has visibly adopted the cause. Like the Tea Party before it, the Occupy block would swing a close election during a national two-party race, functioning as a pressure-release valve for any issue too radical for the traditional platform.

Alongside this is the threat of being infiltrated. Scores of declassified documents, along with accounts from veteran activists, will reveal many stories of members who were actually undercover police, FBI or M15. In the worst cases of infiltration, undercover agents have acted as provocateurs. Such incidents normally serve to radicalise a movement, thus demonising it in the eyes of society and effectively lessening its wider political appeal.

Although the global Occupy movement has branched out in an open-source way, many of its participants and spectators might be completely unaware of who actually launched it. Upon investigation, what one finds is a daisy chain of non-profit foundations, all tied together by hundreds of millions per year in operational funding. The original call for Occupy Wall Street came from non-profit international media foundation Adbusters. Like many non-profits, Adbusters receives its funding and operating capital from other behind-the-scenes organisations. According to research conducted by watchdog Activistcash, Adbusters takes a significant portion of its money from the Tides Foundation, an organisation partnered with one of Wall Street billionaire oligarch George Soros's foundations, the Open Society Institute.

Although mostly hidden from the public eye, all major foundations and professional thinktanks undertake research and host training seminars, which are used to influence certain public and foreign policies, and thus, must have a political agenda. Theirs is the venue of choice for activities that cannot officially be conducted on the government clock.

Freedom House is another of Soros's Open Society partners. It supports the Centre for Applied Nonviolent Action and Strategies (Canvas), an organisation started by Serbians Ivan Marovic and Srdja Popovic. After playing a pivotal role in the CIA-backed deposing of Serbia's Slobodan Milosevic, the western media hailed Marovic as a democratic genius, but it came out later that his programme came out of an elite Boston thinktank's "regime change" manual, From Dictatorship to Democracy, written by Harvard professor Gene Sharp. Sharp's book is a bible of the colour revolutions – a "regime change for dummies". His Albert Einstein Institution has received funds from the National Endowment for Democracy and the Open Society Foundations, and his work serves as a template for western-backed opposition leaders in soft coups all around the world.

There are also reports of Canvas activity during the early days of Occupy Wall Street, including a video of Marovic himself addressing the general assembly. Currently, Canvas are touting their recent role in working with Egyptian and Tunisian protesters from as early as 2009, teaching skills that helped bring down their presidents and spark regional revolt.

When the dust settles and it's all said and done, millions of Occupy participants may very well be given a sober lesson under the heading of "controlled opposition". In the end, the Occupy movement could easily end up doing the bidding of the very elite globalist powers that they were demonstrating against to begin with. To avoid such an outcome, it's important for a movement to have a good knowledge of history and the levers of power in the 21st century.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2011, 02:18:46 PM »

http://www.prisonplanet.com/creepy-one-voice-occupy-protesters-heckle-ron-paul.html

Creepy ‘One Voice’ Occupy Protesters Heckle Ron Paul

Congressman responds by pointing out he’s been condemning the 1% for decades

Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com
November 22, 2011

A gaggle of ‘occupy’ sympathizers interrupted a question and answer session at a Ron Paul town hall gathering in Keene, New Hampshire Monday, proceeding to heckle the congressman in the form of a strange collective chant.

Taking hold of the microphone at the gathering, a man near the center of the audience stood up and declared “mic check”, before reeling off a pre-prepared speech, each line of which was collectively repeated by a group of so called 99 percenters.

“We are the 99 percent. We will be heard,” said the man. “There are criminals on Wall Street who walk free. There are protesters in jail. There is something wrong with this system.” he concluded.

The man then sat down and the commotion died down as Paul came back to his podium and asked the protesters “Do you feel better?”. The rest of the audience then broke into applause as the lead protester stood up and gestured to Paul, wagging his finger and throwing his arms out to his sides.

The Congressman responded to the protesters by stating that he has been part of the 99% for a long time and has consistently rallied against the bailouts handed to Wall Street special interests.

Watch the video:

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWKnwQj7G9U

It is not exactly clear whether the ‘occupy’ sympathizers were taking issue with Ron Paul’s campaign or simply using the event to get publicity. Some did appear to be shouting “Obama” during the exchange, however.

For these people to heckle Paul, a man who has never taken any donations from Wall Street banks, and endorse Obama, whose 2008 campaign was financed almost exclusively by the likes of Goldman Sachs displays a frightening lack of awareness.

The incident once again raises questions over who is attempting to direct sections of the protests and for what political agenda.

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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2011, 02:34:41 PM »

   I go on the livestream for occupy toronto and the people will stand up for certain things and sweep everything else under the rug. When you stnd up for rights you have to stand up for everyones rights, they seem to hve lost that. I dont know if its intentional, it has to be.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 07:02:55 AM »

I can only talk from personal experience.  I went to Occupy Pittsburgh.  I talked to people about glass steagall and CDOs and robosigning and the hundreds of trillions in derivatives Geithner pledged US taxpayer to back and all the real, admitted banking theft.

The occupy movement, that I saw, was not the same as that being pushed in the media.  A movement is only co-opt-able if you allow it to be co-opted.  If the news says it is all a puppet of the democratic party, and you believe it, then it becomes it.  You need to go to occupy and educate and inform people.

An open letter in a message board?  Are you serious?

Go to your closest occupy city and talk to people. 

Here we have a whole bunch of pissed off people ready to engage in activism.  You could spend a week talking to people inline at the grocery store or at your local Mall or wherever you go to get the truth out, and not come close to what is going on with occupy.

Go there.  Talk to people.

I really don't understand this tribal camp mentality.  Stop listening to the mainstream news.  Stop assuming.  Get off your hiney.  Go to your nearest occupy.  And help people.  Volunteer.  Make an action work group.  Sit there with a lap top and show the money masters or the secret of oz.  Show youtube clips of how Robosigning works.  60 Minutes did a show on Robosigning.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7361572n

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eClDqlPgBRg


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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 08:30:33 PM »

I can only talk from personal experience.  I went to Occupy Pittsburgh.  I talked to people about glass steagall and CDOs and robosigning and the hundreds of trillions in derivatives Geithner pledged US taxpayer to back and all the real, admitted banking theft.

The occupy movement, that I saw, was not the same as that being pushed in the media.  A movement is only co-opt-able if you allow it to be co-opted.  If the news says it is all a puppet of the democratic party, and you believe it, then it becomes it.  You need to go to occupy and educate and inform people.

An open letter in a message board?  Are you serious?

Go to your closest occupy city and talk to people. 

Here we have a whole bunch of pissed off people ready to engage in activism.  You could spend a week talking to people inline at the grocery store or at your local Mall or wherever you go to get the truth out, and not come close to what is going on with occupy.

Go there.  Talk to people.

I really don't understand this tribal camp mentality.  Stop listening to the mainstream news.  Stop assuming.  Get off your hiney.  Go to your nearest occupy.  And help people.  Volunteer.  Make an action work group.  Sit there with a lap top and show the money masters or the secret of oz.  Show youtube clips of how Robosigning works.  60 Minutes did a show on Robosigning.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7361572n

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eClDqlPgBRg


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Why do you assume that because someone writes the most thought provoking, constitutionally enlightening, and liberty defending open letter that they are not also actively engaging people in thoughtful discussions?

I am sorry to be blunt, but the only reason Bill Still produced the documentary "Secret of Oz" was because of a call in by a Prison Planet Forum member who explained the relevance of the story 100 years ago.

Do you know what that Prison Planet Forum member's user name is? If you have not guessed by now...it is Geolibertarian.

Please think twice about carelessly glossing over his thoroughly sourced and incredibly enlightening information...and then please take that information to anywhere you go, including OWS.

As you said "I really don't understand this tribal camp mentality" that claims if you post on a message board then you are less of a human being than anyone else.
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2012, 09:21:01 AM »

The following is truly David Icke at his spontaneous best. You can see why he was a TV presenter all those years ago for the BBC: he's a natural.

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/david-ickes-ad-lib-documentary-at-occupy-wall-street.html

David Icke’s ‘ad lib’ documentary at Occupy Wall Street

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January 8, 2012

British author and researcher David Icke presents his experiences and thoughts from on the ground at the Occupy Wall Street protest.

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99nvx3m2fbQ

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 03:20:29 PM »

Obama ignores Occupiers in address
Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:19PM


Occupy DC protesters march down First Street N.E. in Washington, Friday, Jan. 20, 2012.

US President Barack Obama has ignored the growing Occupy Movement in his State of the Union Address, drawing criticism from protesters listening to him in their camps.

Obama delivered his State of the Union address to a joint session of Congress on Tuesday night, but he did not specifically refer to the Occupy Wall Street movement in the annual speech.

A group of “Occupy DC” protesters issued a "State of the 99%" in response to the State of the Union address, reading it out loud in front of the White House.

“Never in our lifetimes have so many hard-working Americans faced so many difficulties, so many uncertainties, so many indignities in Occupy camps around the country we find Americans from all walks of life,” protesters said in their speech.

Obama in his speech referred to income inequality in the US, prompting some analysts to say that the address had been affected by the demands of the protesters.

The Occupy Wall Street movement first began when a group of demonstrators gathered in New York's financial district to protest against the unjust distribution of wealth in the country and the excessive influence of big corporations on US policies.

Despite police crackdown and mass arrests, the Occupy movement, which grew out of the Occupy Wall Street movement, has now spread to many major US cities as well as to Australia, Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain, Ireland, Portugal, and other countries.

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2012, 03:50:54 PM »

http://www.globalresearch.ca/infiltration-of-occupy-part-i-infiltration-to-disrupt-divide-and-mis-direct-are-widespread-in-occupy/29493

Infiltration of Occupy: PART I - Infiltration to Disrupt, Divide and Mis-direct are Widespread in Occupy

by Kevin Zeese and Margaret Flowers



Global Research
February 25, 2012

PART I

This is Part I of a two part series on infiltration of Occupy and what the movement can do about limiting the damage of those who seek to destroy us from within. This first article describes public reports of infiltration as well as results of a survey and discussions with occupiers about this important issue. The second article will examine the history of political infiltration and steps we can take to address it.

In the first five months, the Occupy Movement has had major victories and has altered the debate about the economy. People in the power structure and who hold different political views are pushing back with a traditional tool – infiltration. Across the country, Occupies are struggling with disruption and division, attacks on key persons, escalation of tactics to property damage and police conflict as well as misuse of websites and social media.
 
As Part II of this discussion will show, infiltration is the norm in political movements in the United States. Occupy has many opponents likely to infiltrate to divide and destroy it beyond the usual law enforcement apparatus. Others include the corporations whose rule Occupy seeks to end, conservative right wing groups allied with corporate interests and other members of the power structure including non-profit organizations allied with either corporate-funded political party, especially the Democratic Party which would like Occupy to be their Tea Party rather than an independent movement critical of both parties.
 
On the very first day of the Occupation of Wall Street, we saw infiltration by the police.  We were leaving Zucotti Park and were stopped in traffic by the rear of the park.  We saw an unmarked van open, in the front seat were two uniformed police and out of the back came two men dressed as occupiers wearing backpacks, sweatshirts, and jeans. They walked into Zucotti Park and became part of the crowd.
 
In the first week of the Occupation of Freedom Plaza in Washington, DC we saw the impact of two right wing infiltrators.  A peaceful protest was planned at the drone exhibit at the Smithsonian Institution.  The plan was for a banner drop and a die-in under the drones.  But, as protesters arrived at the museum two people ran out in front, threatening the security guards and causing them to pepper spray protesters and tourists.  Patrick Howley, an assistant editor for the American Spectator, wrote a column bragging about his role as an agent provocateur. A few days later we uncovered the second infiltrator, Michael Stack, when he was urging people on Freedom Plaza to resist police with force.  We later learned he was from the Leadership Institute which trains youth in right wing ideology and tactics.  We were told he had also been at Occupy Wall Street provoking violence.

There have been a handful of other reports around the country of infiltration.  In Oakland, CopWatch filmed an Oakland police officer infiltrating. And, in another video CopWatch includes audio tape of an Oakland police chief, Howard Jordan, talking about how police departments all over the country infiltrate, not just to monitor protesters but to manipulate and direct them.
 
There were also reports in Los Angeles of a dozen undercover police in the encampment before they were forcibly evicted by the police. The raid by the LA police was brutal and resulted in mass arrests, with most charges dropped, but with others mistreated in jails.  Similar pre-raid undercover activities were reported in Nashville,Tennessee.
 
Los Angeles also had infiltrators from the right wing group, Free Republic.  They posted on their webpage a call for infiltrators to block a vote concerning an offer from the City of Los Angeles for virtually free space for Occupy LA: “Need LA Freepers to show up to block this vote by the Occupy LA General Assembly. How brave are you?” In the end, the LA occupy decided not to accept the offer from the city, something also opposed by other elements in the encampment.
 
In New York, there were reports of infiltration.  For example, a protester described how undercover police infiltrated a protest at Citibank and were the loudest and most disruptive protesters. Later at the station listening to the police the protester said in an interview: “It was a bit startling how inside their information was – how they were being paid to go to these protests and put us in situations where we’d be arrested and not be able to leave.”

Survey and Interviews of Occupiers Shows Common Tactics, Common Infiltrators

These scattered reports seem to be the tip of the iceberg.  As a result of experiencing extreme divisive tactics and character assassination on Freedom Plaza against us we began to hear from occupiers across the country about similar incidents in their occupations.  We decided to speak to and survey people about infiltration and have found similar stories around the country.
 
Recently we toured occupations on the west coast, where we spoke to many occupiers and have attended General Assemblies at Occupy Wall Street and Philadelphia. We heard stories in Arizona of someone with website administrative privileges deleting the live stream archive which included video that was to be used in defense of some who were arrested.  In Lancaster, Pennsylvania someone took control of the email list, making it an announce-only list and when the police threatened to close the camp, that person put out a statement that the Lancaster occupiers had decided to go without any conflict.  In fact, no such decision had been made and 30 occupiers had planned to risk arrest when the police tried to remove them. The false email resulted in no resistance.
 
Our west coast trip ended at the Occupy Olympia Solidarity Social Forum. We were able to survey 41 people representing 15 different occupations primarily on the west coast but including Missoula, MT and New Orleans, LA.  Participants were questioned about 10 different behaviors. The most common behaviors, seen in roughly two-thirds of those surveyed and covering 12 of the 15 occupations, were:

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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 01:49:36 AM »

http://www.infowars.com/in-2012-brace-yourself-for-obamas-occupy-part-deux/

In 2012, Brace Yourself For Obama’s Occupy ‘Part Deux’

Patrick Henningsen
Infowars.com
May 1, 2012

“Mic check!”

Get ready for the politics of division, based on income, class, gender, and race.

Get ready for more eerie scenes of crowds playing ‘repeat after me’ with their people’s microphone.

Get ready for more sit-ins, more anarchists, more Guy Fawkes masks.

Get ready for the unions too. And look out for the after party.

But most of all, get ready to live in tents.

Here comes Occupy Part Deux.


May 1st is the official relaunching of the formerly failed collectivist effort known as the Occupy Wall Street Movement.

Occupy’s global ‘community organizers’ are calling for a general strike with no work, no school, no banking, and no shopping in places like New York, San Francisco, London, Toronto, Barcelona, Kuala Lumpur, and Sydney, along with hundreds of cities in North America, Europe, and Asia.

May 1st also marks the world-wide Marxist communist festival otherwise referred to as the “Day of the Worker.” Once relegated to the dying ranks of socialist workers’ groups, the collectivist revolution sees for itself a new opportunity, receiving a booster shot in the arm recently from two sources: Occupy Wall Street and the Obama White House.

Police and mayors around the U.S. will be ramping up security expecting a confrontation. This years demonstrations will have a slightly different, if not more vociferous tone. Now it will be a combination of Labor groups and immigration advocates who will be merging with the Occupy Wall Street protesters and other activists to stage marches and other events in cities across America, with the aim of “bringing daily business to a standstill.”

Alinskyites in the White House and those manning their ‘community organizer’ posts are drooling at the possibility of kicking off a class war in America starting today, one that will ride all the way to the November 2012 elections.

Occupy’s eight-week encampment in Lower Manhattan ended with a whimper last year, but still, planned marches across the globe are scheduled to happen today. Once again, the movement is destined to fail and here’s why…

Classic Social Propaganda: “1% vs. 99%”

It was inevitable that a movement which could not agree on a real ‘manifesto’ would, in the end, do the bidding of the very elite globalist powers that they are demonstrating against to begin with. One of the reasons Occupy 1.0 failed so miserably was because it lacked a clear focus, and ultimately died from its lack of actual results. All it offered the world in the end was the popular nomenclature, “99% vs. 1%.” Nothing else has endured. No progress, no solutions, no improvement, only disconnect – an increased ideological division based on a collectivist vision. Yet, not having learned their lesson the first time, they are back this time – supposedly calling attention to what they say are “abuses of power and wealth.”
Instead of achieving freedom from central bank debt enslavement, naive Occupiers appear to only be interested in a forced redistribution of wealth, with the Occupy Movement’s puppet masters skillfully pulling the mob towards endorsing higher public spending, which means more government/public debt to the private central banks – naturally coupled with higher taxation, or even a global taxation system a la The Robin Hood Tax to be administered… by a brand new global government body.

Many of this week’s demonstrators and students are completely unaware of whose drum beat they are actually marching to.

Directed from above by a confabulation of MoveOn.org, along with George Soros, Ad Busters, and other foundation-funded tertiary arms, socialist/collectivist organizers have again rallied their ‘masses’ in the hopes of another worldwide shut-down on May 1st, with a general strike targeting parks, buildings, and highways and imploring students not to go to class, and employees not to go to work. At least that is what they are advertising. The reality is much different however…

The last three US administrations’ hell-bent drive to dismantle main street and the real US economy has acclimatized the country to a permanently sluggish economic outlook. And so thousands of Americans are now getting used to living in tents. Occupy simply supplies the romantic impetus for this new sub-level of the American Dream.

Another reason why Occupy will end in failure is because it is aligned with the Democratic Party. The irony of this is mostly lost on ‘occupiers’ though. Most are unaware that the Democratic and Wall Street love affair began in 1999, when then President Bill Clinton, who had just narrowly escaped impeachment for screwing his plump intern in the Oval Office on taxpayer time,  signed off on the repealing of the most key economic of safety valve. The Glass Steagal Act was repealed by Bill Clinton on the eve of exit as US President. From there on, it was smooth sailing for Wall Street’s most greedy, most corrupt, and most ruthless of economic wrecking crews, namely, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and droves of chronic gamblers whose last wish to Clinton was to ‘lift the rules’ so they could transfer the nation’s wealth offshore over the next decade.

What happened after was the final nail in America’s economic coffin – a slow and painful death of the American dream, as the country limped forward towards financial Armageddon - a death sentence for opportunity and upward mobility in the United States. That death sentence was finalized in October 2008, when both Barack Obama and John McCain left their respective campaign trails in order to lobby to Democrat and Republican colleagues in the Senate to please pass the first multi-trillion dollar Banker Bailout Bill, the most fatal economic and sovereign blow to the nation since the Federal Reserve Act was passed in the quiet of the night 1913.

If the Occupy Movement was truly genuine, truly grassroots, and actually had a brain it would focus all of its energy on the engine of poverty, and the tool of the elite’s plan for destruction – the Federal Reserve Bank which creates the constant inflation which makes everyone poor, no matter how hard they work.

But it’s not. So it doesn’t.

Obama’s Occupy 2.0

Another reason why Occupy has never found its brain is because it was hatched in the early stages of the current US Presidential election cycle in 2011, and its left-leaning character meant that it would inevitably become co-opted by the Democratic arm of America’s elite power structure.

How the current US leadership uses this new army of agitators should be a lesson to every occupier. It’s the same story every time. Government will order a harsh crackdown through its ranks down to the street level, Occupiers will be victimized, and then the President and his cadres will pose as their saviors – calling for peace and appearing to sympathize with the Occupiers.

Occupy is being eyed by the White House as Obama’s own army for re-election this year. It’s an ‘army of the entitled’ – socialist workers unions, student loaner, the newly and perpetually unemployed, illegal immigrants, and feminists. In an election year, it will slowly transition into a Saul Alinski orgy of social division, inciting Americans against each other based on race, gender, and income - but also based on success.

Saul Alinsky’s tools for dividing society are as follows: left vs right, rich vs poor, black vs white, brown vs yellow, and most importantly… young vs old. “Young vs Old” is what the elites will use as a final battleground in their culture war.

Mob Rule

Division. This is how the Obama White House is conducting events and anyone who is actually paying attention can see this in media and through every comment which comes out of the President’s mouth.
The concept of “Mob Rule” is also important in America’s newly divided society. It now features heavily in both the racial, and the economic conversations heard throughout media.

In this volatile political climate, the mob will often feel empowered and their ‘leader’ will tell them anything they want to hear. Class envy will also feature heavily in this classic social engineering model – and notice how much it has been featured in the Occupy Movement. Here lies the dangers in the current manifestation of the Occupy Movement.

The current US President is a perfect example of a partisan icon. He received the majority of his campaign money from Wall Street oligarchs and is seen to be hob-nobbing with the rich, playing golf every other day, taking countless vacations, yet still portrays himself as part of the “99%”, or “a man of the people.” Still though, the “99%” have been trained to hopelessly envy this unattainable social status and celebrity lifestyle. This phenomenon solidifies the President’s cult of personality.

Using North Korea is an analogy, ranks of obedient socialist workers never criticize their ‘Dear Leader.’ The same can be said with the Occupy Movement and President Obama.

With all the complaints about the 1% living it up at the expense of the 99%, Occupiers have nothing to say about the current President who shamelessly petalled his memoirs and books from 2006, helping him to amass a $16 million fortune between 2006-2011. Nor will they question White House’s Royal Vacations, particularly the First Lady and her $800K taxpayer-funded holiday excursions with friends and security entourages to Majorca, Spain, and their daughters spring break trips with friends and entourage to Mexico.

Occupy is a major brigade in the army which the President and his Democratic Party hopes will catapult them back into their comfortable seats of power until 2016 – just enough time to create a million new federal government jobs, to loot the US Treasury with more stimulus pork, to win more multi-billion dollar no-bid contracts, and to move their riches off-shore. Not to mention more wars…

A wake up call out to all those middle class university students and junior college drop-outs who are working three jobs to get through life: no amount of government spending, higher taxes, or government entitlements will guarantee you a better life in America. Remember that a university education was never “a right” in America. Our forefathers were never entitled to a higher education because it was hard, it was selective and they had to earn it.  Your parents did not have Obamacare, they paid for their medical care.

Europe is no answer either. If you live in most any other country in the world - including socialist Europe – your opportunities for upward economic and especially social mobility are almost nonexistent.

Still, too many Occupiers maintain a naive, even romantic view of socialism and communism.

Perhaps the result of 20th century progress is that the country has produced a spoiled middle class generation whose own disinterest in politics, the economy, and spoon fed global warming propaganda over the last 20 years has brought us to this point in history.

Watch this frightening video; reveals the ugly face of the collectivist mentality:

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Although I agree with much of the above article, I'm afraid there are parts of it I don't agree with.

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May 1st is the official relaunching of the formerly failed collectivist effort known as the Occupy Wall Street Movement.

If my hunch is correct, Mr. Henningsen subscribes to (or is at least heavily influenced by) the Austrian School of economics, because Austrian Schoolers have a tendency to use the term "collectivist" the way apologists for the official story on 9/11 use the term "conspiracy theorist."

Does the mere fact that someone is outraged by all the economic parasitism being engaged in by Wall Street mega-banks automatically mean that that someone is a "collectivist"? Of course not. Yet Austrian Schoolers indiscriminately tar all Occupy activists with the same brush anyway, then lecture them for being "divisive."

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Occupy’s global ‘community organizers’ are calling for a general strike with no work, no school, no banking, and no shopping in places like New York, San Francisco, London, Toronto, Barcelona, Kuala Lumpur, and Sydney, along with hundreds of cities in North America, Europe, and Asia.

A general strike would actually be a good idea if it were used as a means of exerting pressure on Congress to implement an agreed-upon policy agenda. But if it's not used as a means to that end, then I agree it's a waste of time.

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Alinskyites in the White House and those manning their ‘community organizer’ posts are drooling at the possibility of kicking off a class war in America starting today, one that will ride all the way to the November 2012 elections.

News flash: there's already a class war underway, and contrary to what the Austrian School would apparently like everyone to blindly believe, it wasn't poor people infected with "class envy" who started this war:

    “There’s class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

-- Warren Buffet, New York Times, November 26, 2006

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It was inevitable that a movement which could not agree on a real ‘manifesto’ would, in the end, do the bidding of the very elite globalist powers that they are demonstrating against to begin with.

Agreed.

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Nothing else has endured. No progress, no solutions, no improvement, only disconnect – an increased ideological division based on a collectivist vision.

The problem is that the most of the armchair critics who've been pointing this out for the past seven months seem emotionally wedded to the false belief that the only alternative to this "collectivist" vision is the neo-feudalist vision of the privatize-everything Austrian School. Hence the point I've been making for years that "Democrat-vs.-Republican" is not the only "false paradigm" in which countless people have allowed their minds to become literally enslaved.

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Yet, not having learned their lesson the first time, they are back this time – supposedly calling attention to what they say are “abuses of power and wealth.”

Alex himself rails against just such "abuses" (and rightly so) practically every day. Does that mean he's guilty of "class envy" too?

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Instead of achieving freedom from central bank debt enslavement, naive Occupiers appear to only be interested in a forced redistribution of wealth, with the Occupy Movement’s puppet masters skillfully pulling the mob towards endorsing higher public spending, which means more government/public debt to the private central banks – naturally coupled with higher taxation, or even a global taxation system a la The Robin Hood Tax to be administered… by a brand new global government body.

Now we're back to criticism I generally agree with. But again, does that mean the only alternative to enslaving mankind within a prison of debt is to crucify mankind upon a cross of gold? Does it mean the only alternative to being taxed to death by overprivileged politicians and bureaucrats is to be rack-rented to death by overprivileged slumlords and banklords?

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Many of this week’s demonstrators and students are completely unaware of whose drum beat they are actually marching to.

True, but the same can be said for those who promote the anarcho-capitalist dogma of the Austrian School:

    "For the first years of Mises’s life in the United States...he was almost totally dependent on annual research grants from the Rockefeller Foundation.”

-- Richard Ebeling, “The Life and Works of Ludwig von Mises,” The Independent Review, Summer 2008

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The last three US administrations’ hell-bent drive to dismantle main street and the real US economy has acclimatized the country to a permanently sluggish economic outlook.

Of course, but as Alex has explained countless times, those administrations were/are owned and controlled by private bankers -- most of whom are based in (guess where?) Wall Street.

But because many of the people complaining about this are Marxists, Austrian Schoolers -- in their zeal to appear anti-Marxist -- have decided to employ (however subtly or indirectly) the guilt by association fallacy:

    "All Marxists complain about how Wall Street mega-banks abuse their power and wealth. Person A complains about the very same abuse. Therefore Person A is a Marxist -- and hence a 'collectivist' -- and hence an enemy of 'liberty.'"

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Another reason why Occupy will end in failure is because it is aligned with the Democratic Party.

Yet another oversimplification. It's not that all or even most Occupy activists are aligned with the Democratic Party, but that most if not all of the so-called "organizers" who've hijacked it are:

     http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/11/a-majority-of-americans-including-both-ows-and-the-tea-party-agree-on-the-most-important-issues-we-just-dont-realize-it.html

But instead of trying to establish common ground with the genuine activists within Occupy, Austrian Schoolers would rather parrot divisive mantras about "collectivism and "class envy" all day long.

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The irony of this is mostly lost on ‘occupiers’ though. Most are unaware that the Democratic and Wall Street love affair began in 1999, when then President Bill Clinton, who had just narrowly escaped impeachment for screwing his plump intern in the Oval Office on taxpayer time,  signed off on the repealing of the most key economic of safety valve. The Glass Steagal Act was repealed by Bill Clinton on the eve of exit as US President.

The irony of this observation is that no one was more pleased about the repeal of Glass-Steagall than the Austrian School, because it had already spent over half a century demonizing any and all things having to do with FDR's "New Deal."

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From there on, it was smooth sailing for Wall Street’s most greedy, most corrupt, and most ruthless of economic wrecking crews, namely, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and droves of chronic gamblers whose last wish to Clinton was to ‘lift the rules’ so they could transfer the nation’s wealth offshore over the next decade.

And then when people rightly complain about the poverty and privation that inevitably result from this parasitic "transfer" of wealth to the super-rich, they're immediately accused of "class envy." Roll Eyes

So the Austrian School-dominated "Right" is just as reactionary as the Marxist- and Keynesian-dominated "Left."

And that's why I'm equally at odds with both groups.

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What happened after was the final nail in America’s economic coffin – a slow and painful death of the American dream, as the country limped forward towards financial Armageddon - a death sentence for opportunity and upward mobility in the United States. That death sentence was finalized in October 2008, when both Barack Obama and John McCain left their respective campaign trails in order to lobby to Democrat and Republican colleagues in the Senate to please pass the first multi-trillion dollar Banker Bailout Bill, the most fatal economic and sovereign blow to the nation since the Federal Reserve Act was passed in the quiet of the night 1913.

But what was the primary cause of the financial crisis that gave Obama and McCain the excuse they needed to sign that death sentence in the first place? The subprime mortgage bubble (read: the poor people to whom all those subprime motrage loans were extended), right? Wrong!

       http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=196128.0

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If the Occupy Movement was truly genuine, truly grassroots, and actually had a brain it would focus all of its energy on the engine of poverty, and the tool of the elite’s plan for destruction – the Federal Reserve Bank

News flash: poverty was at least as serious a problem during the Gilded Age as it is now, if not more so.

The engine of poverty is ruling-class privilege (see this, this and this). And ruling-class privilege long predates the Federal Reserve, which is why "ending" the latter doesn't necessarily mean "ending" the former. But you can't fit that on a bumper sticker, so I guess we're supposed to ignore that.

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which creates the constant inflation which makes everyone poor, no matter how hard they work.

Another Austrian School talking point, the veiled message of which is:

     "Pay no attention to that usury behind the curtain! Paper is the source of all monetary evils!" Roll Eyes

http://www.wealthmoney.org/articles/truth_inflation/
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Does the mere fact that someone is outraged by all the economic parasitism being engaged in by Wall Street mega-banks automatically mean that that someone is a "collectivist"? Of course not. Yet Austrian Schoolers indiscriminately tar all Occupy activists with the same brush anyway, then lecture them for being "divisive."


Geolib, thanks for your observations on this, and your nonstop activism overall.... I can say, having spent time with Occupy folk and members of allied lefty movements in my town, that there is a range of opinion and that there is at least a latent libertarian- or (peaceful) anarcho-socialist streak among many.  They stress less reliance on the government (if for no better reason than it hasn't fulfilled its much-exaggerated promises) and more DIY. I went to a lecture by some folks that was heavily salted with Marxist lingo, but then later while eating/drinking/smoking with the comrades at the home of one of the principle organizers, his library contains a whole range of stuff, including some geolibertarian stuff (Kyriazi, I think), which indicates some wide reading.

Assuming that a person is a truthseeker, how he approaches the truth depends upon where he is coming from. We are all coming at it from whatever place our upbringing and previous "brainwashing" puts us.

Actually, a lot of the neo-anarcho-socialists seem to be influenced by the Zapatistas, which is itself influenced by Catholic liberation theology, which in its limited way, aims at the same goals as Geoism.  It's good to understand where the Zaps are coming from since they have had such an influence on Leftist thinking over the last 18 years.

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Although the ideology of the EZLN is reflective of libertarian socialist politics, paralleling both anarchist and libertarian Marxist thought in many respects, the EZLN has rejected[3] and defied[4] political classification; retaining its distinctiveness due in part to the importance of indigenous Mayan beliefs in Zapatismo thought. The EZLN aligns itself with the wider alter-globalization, anti-neoliberal social movement, seeking indigenous control over their local resources, especially land ...

The EZLN did not demand independence from Mexico, but rather autonomy, and (among other things) that the natural resources that are extracted from Chiapas benefit more directly the people of Chiapas. ...

[Quoting Dissent mag:] The extraordinarily complex and rich history of political discussion and organizing in Chiapas from the 1970s to the 1990s produced something genuinely original, a new leftist language and vision.
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In an unusual move for any revolutionary organization, documents released by the EZLN[14] (in Spanish) before the initial uprising in 1994 explicitly defined a right of the people to resist any unjust actions of the EZLN. They also defined a right of the people to
demand that the revolutionary armed forces not intervene in matters of civil order or the disposition of capital relating to agriculture, commerce, finances, and industry, as these are the exclusive domain of the civil authorities, elected freely and democratically.

It added that the people should "acquire and possess arms to defend their persons, families and property, according to the laws of disposition of capital of farms, commerce, finance and industry, against the armed attacks committed by the revolutionary forces or those of the government. ...

Another key element of the Zapatista ideology is their aspiration to do politics in a new, participatory way, from the "bottom-up" instead of "top-down." The Zapatistas consider the contemporary political system of Mexico inherently flawed due to what they consider its purely representative nature [sic] and obvious disconnection from the people and their needs. Instead, the EZLN claims to reinforce the idea of participatory democracy or radical democracy by limiting public servants' terms to only two weeks, not using visible organization leaders, and constantly referring to the people they are governing for major decisions, strategies and conceptual visions. ...
Since December 1994, the Zapatistas had been gradually forming several autonomous municipalities, more or less independent of the Mexican government."


Little do the Zapatistas know that they could substantially have their stated aims via a geolibertarian model. I'm not knocking revolution if there is no other way to change an unalterably corrupt oligarchy. However, without LVT, they're just setting the stage for a re-oligarchilization (?) down the line.

Be that as it may, obviously the powers that be were scared by this. "Moreover, in an official bank memorandum, the CHASE Manhattan Bank (a leading bailout financier) told the Mexican Federal Government to "get rid of the Zapatistas" in exchange for full bailout financing." (A Place Called Chiapas entry)


One could conclude that the norteamericano elite have used 1) the drug war, and 2) massive facilitation of illegal immigration to the u.S. as "steam valve" to reduce the threat of revolution that might have occurred from the spread of these ideas.

While the Zapatistas were revolting against the brutality and corruption of the North American elite down in Mexico, of course, Americans were also involved in our own uprising up against brutality and corruption.
 
I am working on a piece for my very own blog. It started out as an expose of the feds as they move from the "Muslim" bogeyman, back to the "white American" bogeyman. But, the more I research, the more I find this expanding into a rather lengthy history of the American patriot movement, since I myself wanted to know more about its origins prior to 1992 (the year I became of age, and started paying a lot of attention to politics). The conventional wisdom is it's all a bunch of angry white men, influenced by the Birch Society and paranoid fear of the Commies -- and of course, fear of the Jews and the darkies. While that stereotype is built on strands of truth, this movement comes draws upon a much wider array of influences, historical and immediate. This would include the original Populists (nowadays claimed by the left), and more cross-fertilization with the left beginning around the Iran-Contra affair in the '80s. 

On money, there is the social credit (public money/greenback) idea which during the Populist era and the '30s was thought of as a "left" thing; but also, thanks to our Austrian buddies, there's the "gold standard" idea. During the '80s some patriots advocated a return to gold, while others advocated a return to U.S. money. When he ran for prez in 1992, Bo Gritz advocated using the Congressional power to coin and regulate money, to pay off the national debt (or at least, the portion owed to the Fed....I need to clarify that.) by minting a single fiat coin with a face value of $ __ trillion or whatever it was; present to Fed; debt retired! That would be entirely constitutional, but obviously, a gold standard would prevent that.

The militia movement of course goes back to the Revolutionary times, but the modern resurgence it also has parallels in the "leftist" Black Panthers (very instructive video there), who built a militia movement to defend blacks against corrupt government and to provide community services rather than wait for government to do everything. You could also speculate about the influence of the self-titled American Indian Movement on the patriot movement. I've run across at least one late '80s/early '90s pub that was championing both, although that may be an outlier.

The purpose of all this is not just to tell a fascinating story, but to show how movements of liberation are tied together, and to demonstrate how We the People are really all in the same boat.


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News flash: there's already a class war underway, and contrary to what the Austrian School would apparently like everyone to blindly believe, it wasn't poor people infected with "class envy" who started this war:


My nuanced view is that the class war is everybody who claims a privilege, against everybody else. That certainly includes the rich, but also many of the poor who envy the rich, and who believe that the only way to counter the privilege of the rich is to claim counter-privileges of their own. Poor folks claiming counter-privileges are, in their own way, as much of a problem as the original privileges owned by the now-rich.

As we know, the solution would be to erase all government-granted privileges, clear the way of all state-imposed obstructions (laissez passer) and let everybody to do their own thing (laissez faire!).


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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2012, 02:24:46 AM »

And speaking of Bo  Gritz, he is older and slower nowadays, but still has some interesting insights on the news, and some fascinating Special Forces/spy stories of his own

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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2012, 02:50:04 PM »

Geolib, thanks for your observations on this, and your nonstop activism overall....

I live to share this information, so you're more than welcome.

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I can say, having spent time with Occupy folk and members of allied lefty movements in my town, that there is a range of opinion and that there is at least a latent libertarian- or (peaceful) anarcho-socialist streak among many.  They stress less reliance on the government (if for no better reason than it hasn't fulfilled its much-exaggerated promises) and more DIY. I went to a lecture by some folks that was heavily salted with Marxist lingo, but then later while eating/drinking/smoking with the comrades at the home of one of the principle organizers, his library contains a whole range of stuff, including some geolibertarian stuff (Kyriazi, I think), which indicates some wide reading.

Assuming that a person is a truthseeker, how he approaches the truth depends upon where he is coming from. We are all coming at it from whatever place our upbringing and previous "brainwashing" puts us.

Actually, a lot of the neo-anarcho-socialists seem to be influenced by the Zapatistas, which is itself influenced by Catholic liberation theology, which in its limited way, aims at the same goals as Geoism.  It's good to understand where the Zaps are coming from since they have had such an influence on Leftist thinking over the last 18 years.

Little do the Zapatistas know that they could substantially have their stated aims via a geolibertarian model. I'm not knocking revolution if there is no other way to change an unalterably corrupt oligarchy. However, without LVT, they're just setting the stage for a re-oligarchilization (?) down the line.

That's what so many royal libertarians either fail or refuse to realize: that an oppressive "government" is usually nothing more than a federation of absentee landlords who organized out of common interest to protect their free lunch:

       http://lysanderspooner.org/node/59
       http://www.barefootsworld.net/nockoets4.html

Such is the inevitable outcome of elevating "law-made property" (as Albert Jay Nock put it) above "labor-made property."

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I am working on a piece for my very own blog. It started out as an expose of the feds as they move from the "Muslim" bogeyman, back to the "white American" bogeyman. But, the more I research, the more I find this expanding into a rather lengthy history of the American patriot movement, since I myself wanted to know more about its origins prior to 1992 (the year I became of age, and started paying a lot of attention to politics). The conventional wisdom is it's all a bunch of angry white men, influenced by the Birch Society and paranoid fear of the Commies -- and of course, fear of the Jews and the darkies. While that stereotype is built on strands of truth, this movement comes draws upon a much wider array of influences, historical and immediate. This would include the original Populists (nowadays claimed by the left), and more cross-fertilization with the left beginning around the Iran-Contra affair in the '80s.

You may find the following thread of particular interest:

       http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=232841.0

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On money, there is the social credit (public money/greenback) idea which during the Populist era and the '30s was thought of as a "left" thing; but also, thanks to our Austrian buddies, there's the "gold standard" idea. During the '80s some patriots advocated a return to gold, while others advocated a return to U.S. money. When he ran for prez in 1992, Bo Gritz advocated using the Congressional power to coin and regulate money, to pay off the national debt (or at least, the portion owed to the Fed....I need to clarify that.) by minting a single fiat coin with a face value of $ __ trillion or whatever it was; present to Fed; debt retired! That would be entirely constitutional, but obviously, a gold standard would prevent that.

The militia movement of course goes back to the Revolutionary times, but the modern resurgence it also has parallels in the "leftist" Black Panthers (very instructive video there), who built a militia movement to defend blacks against corrupt government and to provide community services rather than wait for government to do everything. You could also speculate about the influence of the self-titled American Indian Movement on the patriot movement. I've run across at least one late '80s/early '90s pub that was championing both, although that may be an outlier.

The purpose of all this is not just to tell a fascinating story, but to show how movements of liberation are tied together, and to demonstrate how We the People are really all in the same boat.

Unfortunately many of these movements are in fact "astroturf" movements created by the ruling elite to divert attention from real solutions and to preempt the formation of grassroots coalitions whose purpose is to exert non-stop pressure on Congress to implement such solutions.

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My nuanced view is that the class war is everybody who claims a privilege, against everybody else. That certainly includes the rich, but also many of the poor who envy the rich, and who believe that the only way to counter the privilege of the rich is to claim counter-privileges of their own. Poor folks claiming counter-privileges are, in their own way, as much of a problem as the original privileges owned by the now-rich.

The key difference, of course, is that thanks to the compulsory school system, the poor simply don't know any better, whereas the ruling-class parasites who designed that system in the first place know exactly what they're doing -- and why they're doing it.

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As we know, the solution would be to erase all government-granted privileges, clear the way of all state-imposed obstructions (laissez passer) and let everybody to do their own thing (laissez faire!).

Yup. Free enterprise stops where privilege starts.
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2012, 12:44:19 PM »

Hey, thanks for the links! I need to read Spooner. Also, I have been meaning to read "Our Enemy, the State" forever. I will start with the chapter you linked.
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2012, 02:36:04 AM »

http://www.prisonplanet.com/creepy-one-voice-occupy-protesters-heckle-ron-paul.html

Creepy ‘One Voice’ Occupy Protesters Heckle Ron Paul

Congressman responds by pointing out he’s been condemning the 1% for decades

Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com
November 22, 2011

A gaggle of ‘occupy’ sympathizers interrupted a question and answer session at a Ron Paul town hall gathering in Keene, New Hampshire Monday, proceeding to heckle the congressman in the form of a strange collective chant.

Taking hold of the microphone at the gathering, a man near the center of the audience stood up and declared “mic check”, before reeling off a pre-prepared speech, each line of which was collectively repeated by a group of so called 99 percenters.

“We are the 99 percent. We will be heard,” said the man. “There are criminals on Wall Street who walk free. There are protesters in jail. There is something wrong with this system.” he concluded.

The man then sat down and the commotion died down as Paul came back to his podium and asked the protesters “Do you feel better?”. The rest of the audience then broke into applause as the lead protester stood up and gestured to Paul, wagging his finger and throwing his arms out to his sides.

The Congressman responded to the protesters by stating that he has been part of the 99% for a long time and has consistently rallied against the bailouts handed to Wall Street special interests.

Watch the video:

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWKnwQj7G9U

It is not exactly clear whether the ‘occupy’ sympathizers were taking issue with Ron Paul’s campaign or simply using the event to get publicity. Some did appear to be shouting “Obama” during the exchange, however.

For these people to heckle Paul, a man who has never taken any donations from Wall Street banks, and endorse Obama, whose 2008 campaign was financed almost exclusively by the likes of Goldman Sachs displays a frightening lack of awareness.

The incident once again raises questions over who is attempting to direct sections of the protests and for what political agenda.

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There are alot of idiots on the left also. But most are well intentioned with a lack of understanding or enlightenment. I disagree with Ron Paul on quite a bit but I support him still.

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2013, 12:41:36 PM »

http://www.prisonplanet.com/rand-paul-tea-party-is-like-the-american-revolution-%E2%80%93-the-occupy-movement-more-like-the-french-revolution.html

Rand Paul: Tea Party is like the American Revolution – The Occupy movement more like the French Revolution

Charlie Spiering
The Examiner
March 13, 2013

Speaking yesterday at a National Review breakfast, Sen. Rand Paul R-Ky. explained what he thought about the Tea Party movement vs. the Occupy Wall Street movement, as Jon Ward reports in the Huffington Post.

“The Tea Party, I always say, is more like the American Revolution, and Occupy Wall Street is more the French Revolution,” Paul said.

Paul explained that the Tea Party looked back to the rule of law.

“We hearken back to sort of rules,” Paul said, identifying with the Tea Party. “We weren’t unhappy with people just because they were rich; we weren’t happy with you if you were making money off of our taxes and we were bailing you out. If you were making $100 million, your bank goes bankrupt and all of a sudden we bail you out and you’re still making $100 million — that upset us.”

Full story here.
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2013, 06:24:09 PM »

you hear people talk about bankers a lot, but I think they are overlooking their evil twin, the real estate development companies.

   Reagan repealed tons of banking laws, so these big globalist companies could charter their own banks and lend themselves money.  

  There used to be tons and tons of laws, strictly regulating how banks operated, so you couldn't lend yourself money, then default on yourself, and get the FDIC to bail you out.

   When you hear about the 'real estate bubble' that crashes the Spanish economy, and the real estate bubble that exists everywhere, that is the very heart of the gigantic criminal enterprise.

 You heard Alex talk about the derivatives scam, but it's the real estate that is the speck of collateral backing up all the mortgages.  They appraise their own properties and have a monopoly on commercial real estate, and the housing developments ,but also a near monopoly on rental properties now.

  The globalists own all the big real estate development companies.  Simon Property group owns the majority of all malls in the US.

     These people are such incredible crooks.  Most people don't even know, when they hack down all the trees and build these new subdivisions, they scrape all the top soil off.  All the parks here, they scrape all the top soil off, the steal the topsoil, I guess to resell it, then nothing will grow, we get these parks full of mud.

  Anyways, you will notice a pattern in many of Americans new suburban areas, there is just one little area zoned for commerce, for miles and miles, there are no businesses, because you aren't allowed to have businesses in your home, or build a business in an area zoned for real estate development.  

     Establishing a commercial monopoly in the US is as easy as 1,2,3.  Zone a little area for commercial activity, then give insider deals to all the big globalist owned chains.   Every suburb in America is nearly exactly the same.  One little area with stores, all big chain stores, McDonald's, Walmart, Lowe's, and that's it. That's the whole retail economy, other than antique stores selling old junk and candles, and some bars.


  you can tell what loyal Americans run these giant real estate development companies by how 90% of their workforce are illegals.  you go to any big sub division, 90% of the workers are Mexicans.  They won't even hire you if you don't speak Spanish, or if you're a white guy, because they don't want any trouble, you just won't fit in.

   The thing is, these people are learning the trades you can't export, flooring, drywall, bricklaying, roofing, all these skilled construction trades, and they are going to teach their children, but they aren't gonna teach your children.  They aren't going to hire your children.  Learning these skills is a matter of life and death, they make up a huge portion of good jobs.


There was a show on 60 minutes, about how the Chinese developers just build and build like crazy, but most people can't afford to live in their houses, now that could only be because they have a monopoly or an agreement, to fix these prices.  By doing this, they basically enslave the population.  The biggest Chinese developer is an ex-general or something, so you know this is straight of the Chinese communist Cental planning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjOuDmy1ybE

  Of course, the Chinese are just copying what they know they do in the US, on a much grander scale.
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2013, 11:14:25 PM »

Occupy, Anonymous and the Tea Party have alot more in common than people think.
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2013, 03:21:24 PM »

They do but they got to stop being hijacked by Globalist operatives !!!!!!!!!

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