***Ron Paul wins GOP straw poll in Iowa with over 82%, FOXNEWS says Cain won

[FrozenFlames]

Ron Paul wins both tallies at GOP straw poll in Iowa

Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) - Ron Paul has won two separate tallies for the National Federation of Republican Assemblies Presidential Straw Poll.

Paul won both the Iowa-voters-only count at the Saturday convention in Des Moines as well as a tally of non-Iowans who participated.

In the Iowa voters result, Paul took 82%. Following him were Herman Cain with 14.7%, Rick Santorum with 1%, Newt Gingrich with 0.9%, Michele Bachmann with 0.5%, Rick Perry with 0.5%, Gary Johnson with 0.2%, with Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman 0%.

The total number of votes cast in that tally was 430.

In the tally of non-Iowans who voted, Paul won 26% followed by Cain at 25%, Perry and Santorum tied at 16%, Gingrich at 11%, Bachmann at 6%, Romney at 1%, and Huntsman and Johnson with 0%.

The total number of votes cast in that count was 101.

Though Paul won both tallies, the NFRA has not yet officially endorsed a candidate. Delegates to the convention will decide that later Saturday.
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/29/ron-paul-wins-both-tallies-at-gop-pres-straw-poll-in-iowa/

[WarChest]

BUMP!

Because the 700lb gorilla in the room can't be denied anymore.

Sweet.

[Jordan]

BUMP!

Because the 700lb gorilla in the room can't be denied anymore.

Sweet.

Well actually I've seen MSM say that it's Romney and Cain that won the poll and are still not talking about RP.

[Stan]

And the NFRA endorse Rick Santorum, who got about 0.00000001% of the vote. I'd laugh if humanity wasn't so screwed.

[Dig]

And the NFRA endorse Rick Santorum, who got about 0.00000001% of the vote. I'd laugh if humanity wasn't so screwed.

Show this to anyone who says: "It is not centrally controlled, people are just not willing to cast a ballot for Ron Paul."

How much more evidence do you need?

Ron Paul wins with over 82% of the vote and the centrally controlled cyclops beast from hell endorses the one that no one would ever vote for. Anyone endorsing a candidate other than Ron Paul is basically endorsing 4 more years of Obama.

The only one who might have a chance other than Paul against Obama is Romney. And even if you believe his endorsement of National ID, open borders, abortion as a tool for eugenecists, torture, doubling the size of Gitmo, the extermination of over 1 billion Arabs, national deathcare, more media consolidation, an exponential increase in the national debt...Romney will never stick it out because he is a quitter. We saw it in the last election, Romney likes money more than politics. He took a payoff involving ClearChannel laxing of regulations and other incentives to bow out of the race to McCain. Remember...McCain...insane in the membrane McCain? Romney took a payoff to allow the Traitor of Panama to be the only thing standing in the way of Goldman Sach's poster boy (Obama) being the puppet in chief. He did it then and he will do it again (for more money of course).

So there are only two options that are becomming painfully obvious...

Obama or Ron Paul...

We report, you decide

[decepticon]

Cain, Romney Finish at Top of Des Moines Register Poll

Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain has taken the lead in the race to win the Iowa Caucuses, according to a Des Moines Register poll published Saturday.
Cain finished with 23 percent, narrowly beating former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney who finished with 22 percent. The two are essentially tied however, as Cain's one point lead falls within the poll's +/-4.9 percentage point margin of error.
Cain's finish shows a significant gain of support in Iowa, as he scored just 10 percent in the Register's first poll held in June. Romney's support relatively stayed the same.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/29/cain-edges-romney-in-des-moines-register-poll/#ixzz1cGmQ6vaQ

[Dig]

Cain, Romney Finish at Top of Des Moines Register Poll

Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain has taken the lead in the race to win the Iowa Caucuses, according to a Des Moines Register poll published Saturday.
Cain finished with 23 percent, narrowly beating former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney who finished with 22 percent. The two are essentially tied however, as Cain's one point lead falls within the poll's +/-4.9 percentage point margin of error.
Cain's finish shows a significant gain of support in Iowa, as he scored just 10 percent in the Register's first poll held in June. Romney's support relatively stayed the same.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/29/cain-edges-romney-in-des-moines-register-poll/#ixzz1cGmQ6vaQ

Ron Paul got third with 12% of that manipulated poll (also within their margin of error so the entire poll is bullshit).

Do you even know why there is a margin of error? It is because the poll is manipulated to fit the elite's objectives. Here are just a few ways that these fake polls (not straw polls, but the Rasmussen, WaPo fake "we call you" polls.

First off, most of the time they never ask "Who would you vote for?," they always ask "Who do you think will win the primary?" and they preempt it with conditioning like: "As you may know Mitt Romney has been leading all of the major polls for the past 12 months and he has the most financing of any other candidate, with that in mind, who do you think will win the GOP primary?" derrrrrrrrrr deeeeee derrrrrrrrrrrr....

Other shocking information about the fake Rasmussen treacherous ponzi scheme, and even if they did not do it themselves, they use a Ptech style hackable system so that the NRO/NCS/CIA can easily change all of the numbers at the push of a button:


Rasmussen admits to manipulating poll data using Ptech style hackable system

So I look at this latest Rasmussen poll:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/election_2012_republican_presidential_primary

And it has (you ain't gonna believe it):

Romney 29%
Cain 29%
Gingrich 10%
Perry 9%
Paul 5%

So they know that Perry is done and that Cain is getting hammered and exposed as a Federal Reserve shill promoting more taxes on the poor and middle class. They know that no one else is entering the race. So what do they do? They throw in the CFR Prize Fighter, the man that stopped a true investigation into treason by Bill Clinton (to stop Ron Paul's authentic impeachment hearings where he cited aiding and abedding enemies of the state as some of the charges). The transhumanist lying homebreaker who continues to stab the GOP in the back again and again and again...Newt Gingrich. They bump him up to third place so they can get away with not even mentioning Dr. Paul after he won the Bloomberg Poll by 88% (it was a complete smackdown!)

So after just accepting these polls as if they were true for years, I decided to do a little investigating.
In Rasmussen's own words they admit the following:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/about_us/methodology

TEXT:

All Rasmussen Reports' survey questions are digitally recorded and fed to a calling program that determines question order, branching options, and other factors. Calls are placed to randomly-selected phone numbers through a process that insures appropriate geographic representation. Typically, calls are placed from 5 pm to 9 pm local time during the week. Saturday calls are made from 11 am to 6 pm local time and Sunday calls from 1 pm to 9 pm local time. To reach those who have abandoned traditional landline telephones, Rasmussen Reports uses an online survey tool to interview randomly selected participants from  a demographically diverse panel. After the surveys are completed, the raw data is processed through a weighting program to insure that the sample reflects the overall population in terms of age, race, gender, political party, and other factors. The processing step is required because different segments of the population answer the phone in different ways. For example, women answer the phone more than men, older people are home more and answer more than younger people, and rural residents typically answer the phone more frequently than urban residents. For surveys of all adults, the population targets are determined by census bureau data. For political surveys, census bureau data provides a starting point and a series of screening questions are used to determine likely voters. The questions involve voting history, interest in the current campaign, and likely voting intentions.  Rasmussen Reports determines its partisan weighting targets through a dynamic weighting system that takes into account the state’s voting history, national trends, and recent polling in a particular state or geographic area.
IMPORTANT TEXT HIGHLIGHTED:

All Rasmussen Reports' survey questions are digitally recorded and fed to a calling program that determines question order, branching options, and other factors. Calls are placed to randomly-selected phone numbers through a process that insures appropriate geographic representation. Typically, calls are placed from 5 pm to 9 pm local time during the week. Saturday calls are made from 11 am to 6 pm local time and Sunday calls from 1 pm to 9 pm local time.  To reach those who have abandoned traditional landline telephones, Rasmussen Reports uses an online survey tool to interview randomly selected participants from  a demographically diverse panel.  After the surveys are completed, the raw data is processed through a weighting program to insure that the sample reflects the overall population in terms of age, race, gender, political party, and other factors. The processing step is required because different segments of the population answer the phone in different ways. For example, women answer the phone more than men, older people are home more and answer more than younger people, and rural residents typically answer the phone more frequently than urban residents.  For surveys of all adults, the population targets are determined by census bureau data. For political surveys, census bureau data provides a starting point and a series of screening questions are used to determine likely voters. The questions involve voting history, interest in the current campaign, and likely voting intentions. Rasmussen Reports determines its partisan weighting targets through a dynamic weighting system that takes into account the state’s voting history, national trends, and recent polling in a particular state or geographic area.
LET US GO THROUGH EACH POINT ONE BY ONE:

randomly-selected phone numbers through a process that insures appropriate geographic representation.

What is the process? Who is in control of the process? Is the process autonomous? Is Ptech software involved with the architecture for risk management processing that can easily be manipulated to shift "RANDOM" to "TARGETED AND DELIBEATE WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE".
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an online survey tool to interview randomly selected participants

Who is in control of this tool? Same questions as above.
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the raw data is processed through a weighting program to insure that the sample reflects the overall population in terms of age, race, gender, political party, and other factors.

A weighting program? Are you guys for real? How can you get away with saying "Out of 1,000 people surveyed, 29% said they prefere candidate A" when you change all of the numbers based on a weighting program which takes into consideration "OTHER FACTORS". And who is in control of that weighting program? Is it a Ptech type system or a STUXNET type system built to assist in risk management simulations (which can therefore be manipulated behind the scenes without anyone knowing)? Same questions above and are all of these systems part of a interwoven tapestry with a central command control over it for easier manipulation by the ones paying for the poll (or by others)?
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a series of screening questions are used to determine likely voters. The questions involve voting history, interest in the current campaign, and likely voting intentions.

YOU SCREEN PEOPLE BASED ON HOW THEY ARE LIKELY TO VOTE?

IS THIS FOR REAL?

WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT PEOPLE WERE SCREENED WHO WERE LIKELY TO VOTE FOR RON PAUL YET ONLY 5% DID VOTE FOR RON PAUL? DOESN'T THAT SEEM UNLIKELY? WHAT ABOUT THE CHANCES THAT PEOPLE WERE SCREENED BASED ON 29% BEING LIKELY TO VOTE FOR ROMNEY, 29% LIKELY TO VOTE FOR CAIN, 10% LIKELY TO VOTE FOR GINGRICH AND NO ONE LIKELY TO VOTE FOR PAUL?

I WOULD SAY THE CHANCES ARE BETWEEN 80-100%!

SCREENING PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR LIKELY VOTING INTENSIONS? HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE AS A REQUIREMENT?

Also the same questions, how is the data transfered, who is in control of the algorithms, etc. These are not scientific polls, these are highly biased polls with dozens of remote manipulation stress points that would allow NWO operatives an opportunity to shift entire results.
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determines its partisan weighting targets through a dynamic weighting system that takes into account the state’s voting history, national trends, and recent polling in a particular state or geographic area.

Another weighting system? There is so much manipulation of the raw data it is absolutely amazing. Also, the method to get the raw data is compromised by design.
They say the provide more detailed info if you subscribe. Maybe it is all on the up and up, but the admissions of total manipulation of all entry points of data, distribution points of data, and reporting systems for data presentations seems very suspect. Now when you add the absolute impossibility that Newt Gingrich soared in the polls for no reason whatsoever and you got a clear case of insisting on all of the raw data including the screening process along with all conversations during the screening process to either expose the fraud going on or to strengthen to confidence in these highly controversial and very suspect polls.

What happens during a straw poll which can only be manipulated using easily exposed tactics?
Ron Paul wins 2012 Republican straw poll in New Orleans by a landslide!

Representative Ron Paul easily won a Republican Leadership Conference straw poll of the party's 2012 presidential contenders on Saturday, with former U.S. envoy to China Jon Huntsman finishing second. Paul, who brought busloads of supporters to the conference, won with 612 votes in the nonbinding preference poll of nearly 2,000 delegates from 38 states who attended the gathering. Huntsman finished second with 382 votes, Representative Michele Bachmann was third with 191 votes and businessman Herman Cain was fourth with 104 votes. Huntsman, a former Utah governor, is set announce his bid for the White House on Tuesday. No other candidate broke triple digits. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, who leads national opinion polls in the 2012 Republican race for the nomination to challenge President Barack Obama, was fifth with 74 votes. "This win is just the latest indicator of how the majority of American opinion is turning in Ron Paul's direction," said Jesse Benton, his campaign chairman. Paul, Bachmann and Cain addressed the New Orleans conference on Friday. Huntsman was scheduled to speak but canceled because of illness. Romney and Tim Pawlenty, the former Minnesota governor who earned 18 votes, skipped the event. Former House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich, who spoke on Thursday, had 69 votes. Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, who says she is considering becoming a candidate, had 41 votes. She also did not appear at the conference. Former Senator Rick Santorum, who also spoke on Friday, had 30 votes. Romney narrowly won the straw poll at the annual conference last year over Paul, but the survey has not been a reliable predictor of success. Bill Frist, who was Senate Republican leader at the time, won in 2006 and failed to ever get his campaign off the ground.
Continued...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/18/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSTRE75H1YX20110618

Ohio GOP Straw Poll Gives Ron Paul A Majority
http://www2.nbc4i.com/news/2011/oct/22/gop-straw-poll-gives-ron-paul-majority-ar-798129/
By: Lauren Evans  Published: October 22, 2011

Republicans who participated in a straw poll conducted in Columbus Saturday gave a majority of support to Ron Paul, known for libertarian party leanings.  The event requires participants to pay $25 to participate giving Ohio Republicans a chance to have their voices heard in the early stage of the presidential primary nominating process. Those who attended got to hear messages from all campaigns and then voted for their preference.  The results from the 428 participants are as follows:

Ron Paul 53.50%
Herman Cain 25.47%
Mitt Romney 8.88%
Newt Gingrich 5.37%
Rick Perry 2.80%
Jon Huntsman 2.10%
Rick Santorum .93%
Michele Bachmann .47%
Write-In .47%

Franklin County Republican Executive Committee Chair Doug Preisse said “It looks as though the presidential race will be all about Ohio, probably Central Ohio in particular."

Notice how Ron Paul wins all the straw polls?

Maybe because it is 10x harder to manipulate a straw poll than a Rothschild funded PR management controlled poll.

[decepticon]

Yes, to clarify the polls... The poll showing Cain won was a telephone poll among "likely" voters, the poll showing Ron won was an actual physical voting straw poll.

One is a register poll, one is a straw poll. The straw carries much more political weight. The nominee will be decided by the straw poll delegates, not random phone polling.

I posted just to show the top story on fox politics site is not Ron winning the important straw poll, but Cain winning the irrelevant register poll to show how they attempt to manipulate. Ron's victory cannot be found on a cursory viewing of the site, but Cain's is right in your face at the top of the page the moment you get on the site, complete with picture and large headline.

[donnay]

No One But Paul!!

Send the GOP a message!!

[Dig]

Ron Paul easily wins Des Moines straw poll
http://iowaindependent.com/63039/ron-paul-easily-wins-des-moines-straw-poll
By Andrew Duffelmeyer | 10.30.11 | 11:12 am

GOP presidential candidate U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) ran away with the National Federation of Republican Assemblies Straw Poll on Saturday in Des Moines, garnering 82 percent of the vote among Iowans.

Businessman Herman Cain came in second with 14 percent.
Former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum, [1% or less]
former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich, [1% or less]
U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann [1% or less] and
Texas Gov. Rick Perry [1% or less] each got 1 percent or less.
Former Utah Gov. Jon Hunstman [0%] and
former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney [0%] received no votes.

It was clear from the beginning of the event the majority of attendees came to see Paul, who spoke first. Former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum also spoke at the event, while

former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich addressed the crowd briefly by video.
[My comment: bwaaahahahaaaa, what a transhumanist pompous dork.]

Paul got a warm reception from the audience of several hundred,
saying what the country needs is less government intrusion, more openness in government, a focus on dealing with the national debt and a foreign policy overhaul. The federal government has invaded peoples’ lives, Paul said, especially through the Patriot Act. He called for repealing the law put in place following 9/11, saying it undermines liberty. He also wants investigations into the federal reserve, the war in Iraq, the Fast and Furious operation and government loans to Solyndra. “If there’s any one thing that would benefit us, it is to get more openness in government,” Paul said. On foreign policy Paul delivered a strong anti-war message, calling United States foreign policy “deeply flawed” and saying “it’s time for us to come home and mind our own business.” And on the economy, Paul said lowering the national debt, cutting the budget and auditing the federal reserve would go a long way toward putting the country back on track. “This country needs to wake up and quit lying to itself, whether it’s on the economics or the foreign policy,” he said.

“What we need is a healthy dose of renewal of the spirit of liberty.”

A small crowd of about 50 remained by the time Santorum spoke about an hour later.
[My comment: And only 1% out of the 50 who stuck around voted for the constpated DHS and Patriot Act loving wannabe neocon.]
IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE BLOW OUT!

[kita]

[Zephiloyd]

a little chant for you 


Stand Tall
Vote Ron Paul
The Patriot's Call
Vote Ron Paul
The US Won't Fall
If You Vote Ron Paul