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Yes, you read that right. You are not in the twilight zone. On their website, Communist Party USA it is announced: "Solidarity with “Occupy Wall Street” — Teleconference Oct 11" I have been warning about this for several days now and while many people are capable of rational and logical thought, there are many more who are not. Many of the comments I have gotten from people are extremely deluded. They seem to think I support corporate greed, the bankers and that I hate democracy. It is obvious that most of these people fail to even read what I have written in response to what the "OCW" group wants or for those who have, they are of the same lemming mentality displayed in a video I saw yesterday which demonstrates first hand their decision making process. Most people do not want communism or socialism. And those who do...do so because they have no idea what communism or socialism really is. Applied communism and fascism are indistinguishable, from a quality-of-life perspective. They're all just materialist-leaning "humanists" with no compassion or common sense. The problem is that the present system stinks. The ruling elite are evil which.... makes overthrow desirable. Unfortunately, these kinds of overthrows have nasty habits of replacing bad with worse. Much worse. In my opinion, the majority of the protesters are college kids that have no idea the mess they are getting themselves into. They are looking for something or someone to believe in and they will follow the first strong willed person that comes along and tells them what they want to hear. Maybe Obama will be in on the conference call. See the video and read more: http://djosiris.blogspot.com/2011/10/its-official-communist-party-sides-with.html |
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 12:05:31 PM » |
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First Advice to the Occupy Movement
Break the chains of the right left, us versus them, paradigm. It will only serve to distract.
Do not allow yourselves to be taken over the democrats/republicans, down that path lies failure.
Beware instigators. There will be those who will try to convince you to commit violence, vandalism or other illegal acts. Shun and ignore them.
Realize that the media will try to make you appear illegitimate. Defeat their attempts by doing nothing illegitimate. First they mock you...
Avoid issues of emotion and divisiveness, focus on that which unites you. The media, which is the tool of the enemy, keeps the masses focused on issues like gay marriage, abortion, socialism. While these issues are important to many, those battles are for later and in many cases are impossible to resolve in todays world.
Find mechanisms by which the common man identifies with you. If they see a person in khaki's and a polo, someone like them, being maced the outrage will grow.
Find a few uniting issues that EVERYONE will get behind. For example:
- The federal reserve system fosters corruption and the redistribution of wealth from the many to the few. It must be abolished
- The large international banks are the enemy. Throughout history those who inspire and are admired have fought the international bank. Emulate them.
- The wars are the tools of the banks, who fund both sides just like they profit on both sides of each bubble. They care naught for the deaths of our troops, or the civilians of other lands.
- Glass–Steagall must be restored. This is one of the main tools by which the banks defeat us.
There will be more.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 01:11:05 PM » |
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Re-post--
Spent 2 hours talking with a group of Socialists in a Seattle bookstore last year--very disappointing--
5 men and a woman, age range from mid 20s to late 60s
1. They thought 911 being an inside job was a fringe theory which they did not take seriously.
2. They didn't think the banks had much power controlling the economy.
3. They found it a surprising idea that political movements could be infiltrated and run as a managed opposition.
4. They liked to watch Jon Stewart and Bill Maher for their insight and jollies.
Can you say WAY BEHIND THE 8 BALL?!
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 01:29:17 PM » |
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The main problem the OWS is having would be all of the nut jobs are now coming out to join them from all over. They are so eager to have joiners they let them all into the "happy tent". It is already failing miserably. The numbers of people dropped off and only the homeless and nut jobs seem to occupy the park. Once the full co opting comes around again they will welcome the added numbers with open arms and brains unfortunately for them. They are quickly becoming the tea party of the left and problably just as planned to ensure a neocon in the whitehouse as Obama is thrown under the bus. The democrat parties joining up with them will make them look just as nutty as those occupying the park and you just know how that will end.  |
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 01:58:30 PM » |
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So, does it mean that Communist Party, USA supports Obama?
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 03:18:38 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2011, 05:43:58 PM » |
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Most people do not want communism or socialism. And those who do...do so because they have no idea what communism or socialism really is.
I agree with the second part, but as to the first - I'm not so sure. A better way to say it, IMO, is that most people do not like the label of being communist or socialist, but they do like the concept behind the label. But like with the second part, the do not understand the true nature of these collectivist concepts because they are grossly ignorant of freedom. |
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2011, 04:26:18 PM » |
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Should we expect this site to been infiltrated by the CIA? Communism? Socialism? Its pointless to even use the labels because the branches stemming from simple definitions can lead to more or less the opposite ideology e.g. State Socialist and Libertarian Socialist.
"In my opinion, the majority of the protesters are college kids that have no idea the mess they are getting themselves into." OK that can't be an opinion but maybe you guys should go to more meetups and educate them i.e. help develop a functioning democracy.
Heres a great way to get yourself into a mess: convince everyone that an evil transhumanist elite plans on killing everyone and can't be stop so you should curl up in a dark corner with your thumb in your mouth until Population Reduction Day.
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2011, 04:31:29 PM » |
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It's official, the Communist Party sides with Occupy Wall Street Official? its always been that from the beginning. |
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2011, 04:38:39 PM » |
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OWS is neither left nor right
one person or group doesn't speak for everyone
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2011, 04:40:38 PM » |
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OWS is neither left nor right
one person or group doesn't speak for everyone
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2011, 09:25:37 PM » |
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Personally I'm thrilled just to see anyone pissed off at this tyrannical establishment that thinks we're its slaves. For any reason!
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2011, 09:48:28 PM » |
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Re-post--
Spent 2 hours talking with a group of Socialists in a Seattle bookstore last year--very disappointing--
5 men and a woman, age range from mid 20s to late 60s
1. They thought 911 being an inside job was a fringe theory which they did not take seriously.
2. They didn't think the banks had much power controlling the economy.
3. They found it a surprising idea that political movements could be infiltrated and run as a managed opposition.
4. They liked to watch Jon Stewart and Bill Maher for their insight and jollies.
Can you say WAY BEHIND THE 8 BALL?!
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2011, 10:26:06 PM » |
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Translations:
1. They thought 911 being an inside job was a fringe theory which they did not take seriously.
1. They have not done any research.
2. They didn't think the banks had much power controlling the economy.
2. They've never even thought about it.
3. They found it a surprising idea that political movements could be infiltrated and run as a managed opposition.
3. They are uninformed.
4. They liked to watch Jon Stewart and Bill Maher for their insight and jollies.
4. They have screwed-up priorities.
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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The NWO always use two strategies:
1. Liberalism and capitalism
2. Communism (a "revolutionary movement" under their control and invented by them)
There must be a third way - our way!
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2011, 08:21:02 AM » |
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Another way to look at this...if those in true possession of power (the 1%, Insiders, the Elite, whatever you want to call them) wanted to discredit a movement that actually had potential, how hard would it be for them to get someone in the Communist Party to give it official support? All one has to do is label something "Communist" in the minds of the American public for most unthinking sheeple to reject it out of hand, without investigating whether that is actually true or not. This doesn't sound like a Communist document to me: The New Common Sense http://pastebin.com/gm2UV08D |
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2011, 08:34:54 AM » |
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The NWO always use two strategies:
1. Liberalism and capitalism
2. Communism (a "revolutionary movement" under their control and invented by them)
There must be a third way Fortunately there is: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=192293.msg1140736#msg1140736But the ruling elite don't want the masses to even be aware of this third way (let alone supportive of it), which is why they silently financed a propaganda campaign aimed at keeping the masses in ignorance of it: http://www.politicaleconomy.org/gaffney.htm http://homepage.ntlworld.com/janusg/coe/!index.htm"The chief weapon against the teaching of Henry George was that which is always used against irrefutable and self-evident truths. This method, which is still being applied in relation to George, was that of hushing up....People do not argue with the teaching of George, they simply do not know it. (And it is impossible to do otherwise with his teaching, for he who becomes acquainted with it cannot but agree.)" |
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2011, 03:26:51 PM » |
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Like I said earlier.
Its pointless to even use the labels because the branches stemming from simple definitions can lead to more or less the opposite ideology e.g. State Socialist and Libertarian Socialist.
You have to realize that people who use those terms either don't know some of the most simple political facts (such as Americans were/are consciously propagandized to think that the USSR was a communist state - it was in fact a slave state [basically the opposite of Communism {widely varying branches of Anarchy}]) and should be ignored or are consciously trying to deceive you.
A simple Wiki research session of the two should open your eyes so you can see that your heads on backwards.
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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2011, 03:54:52 PM » |
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Re-post--
Spent 2 hours talking with a group of Socialists in a Seattle bookstore last year--very disappointing--
5 men and a woman, age range from mid 20s to late 60s
1. They thought 911 being an inside job was a fringe theory which they did not take seriously.
2. They didn't think the banks had much power controlling the economy.
3. They found it a surprising idea that political movements could be infiltrated and run as a managed opposition.
4. They liked to watch Jon Stewart and Bill Maher for their insight and jollies.
Can you say WAY BEHIND THE 8 BALL?!
What truly surprises me is the age range. Those in their 50's and 60's should know better. Indeed, they must have been school dropouts, or missed the classes on politics, history of America, history of WWII, etc. Their cake isn't fully baked. I am sure they must have seen the bread lines in starving Russia on TV? One had to get in line early in the morning if they wanted bread (4:00 am). Then, at 5:00 pm, they quickly ran out and distributed one loaf (for the week!) per household. It took about 5 minutes to distribute. Then, they quickly ran back in and those at the end of the line didn't get any bread. Socialism, communism seems to all lead to the same place = slavery. More collectivism is not the answer to the problems collectivism have caused. Our problems in the world and America today, are due to socialist influence which opened the door for fascism. USSR stands for United Soviet Socialist Republic. Socialism is a tool consciously-used by Communists to gain Communism. Please see the series by G. Edward Griffin's (10-minute clips): More Deadly Than War1 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdt46Uk61UY2 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYRTyNhRnOI&feature=related3 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sbQq3oW4uI&feature=related4 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyuHaxl26xE&feature=related5 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFBKlLnvs4o&feature=related6 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSDMvxWYNNY&feature=related7 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtoVRl0cFc&feature=related8 of 8: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtoVRl0cFc&feature=relatedLove, e |
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2011, 04:24:55 PM » |
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Am I invisible?
"Our problems in the world and America today, are due to socialist influence which opened the door for fascism. USSR stands for United Soviet Socialist Republic. Socialism is a tool consciously-used by Communists to gain Communism."
Research the two - you are brainwashed by the corporate controlled media and US PR department for very understandable reasons! The two main super propaganda powers of the 20th century used communism and socialism to control the masses but in opposite ways! (Trivia Q: what system originally inspired fascism and what did the founder purpose the ideology be changed too?)
"I am sure they must have seen the bread lines in starving Russia on TV? One had to get in line early in the morning if they wanted bread (4:00 am). Then, at 5:00 pm, they quickly ran out and distributed one loaf (for the week!) per household. It took about 5 minutes to distribute. Then, they quickly ran back in and those at the end of the line didn't get any bread. Socialism, communism seems to all lead to the same place = slavery."
Wasn't the worst time for Russians the 90's doing the capitalist reforms? I think thats when the poly-oligarchy agreed that capitalism is a much more cost effective form of human farming than actual slavery i.e. what is commonly referred to as Communism and Socialism.
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2011, 04:26:41 PM » |
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I'm sorry - Trivia Q: what system originally inspired fascism and what did the founder purpose the ideology's name be changed too?
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2011, 04:48:25 PM » |
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What truly surprises me is the age range. Those in their 50's and 60's should know better. Indeed, they must have been school dropouts, or missed the classes on politics, history of America, history of WWII, etc. Their cake isn't fully baked. I am sure they must have seen the bread lines in starving Russia on TV? One had to get in line early in the morning if they wanted bread (4:00 am). Then, at 5:00 pm, they quickly ran out and distributed one loaf (for the week!) per household. It took about 5 minutes to distribute. Then, they quickly ran back in and those at the end of the line didn't get any bread. Socialism, communism seems to all lead to the same place = slavery. More collectivism is not the answer to the problems collectivism have caused. Our problems in the world and America today, are due to socialist influence which opened the door for fascism. USSR stands for United Soviet Socialist Republic. Socialism is a tool consciously-used by Communists to gain Communism. Please see the series by G. Edward Griffin's (10-minute clips): More Deadly Than War1 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdt46Uk61UY2 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYRTyNhRnOI&feature=related3 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sbQq3oW4uI&feature=related4 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyuHaxl26xE&feature=related5 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFBKlLnvs4o&feature=related6 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSDMvxWYNNY&feature=related7 of 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtoVRl0cFc&feature=related8 of 8: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtoVRl0cFc&feature=relatedLove, e Oh there's no scam there!  Griffin is a very wise man. |
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2011, 05:00:32 PM » |
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I'm sorry - Trivia Q: what system originally inspired fascism and what did the founder purpose the ideology's name be changed too?
Corporatism? I dunno... But it doesn't even matter because you can group communism with fascism, socialism, communism, authoritarianism, corporatism, liberalism and conservatism, and it's still collectivism vs. individualism. Political labels are meaningless if you disagree on fundamentals, IMO. |
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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2011, 12:16:16 PM » |
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Corporatism? I dunno...
But it doesn't even matter because you can group communism with fascism, socialism, communism, authoritarianism, corporatism, liberalism and conservatism, and it's still collectivism vs. individualism. Political labels are meaningless if you disagree on fundamentals, IMO.
Yes. It can be thought of as having to do with centralization of power versus decentralization of power. As we have seen, even a democratic republic can fall victim to a gradual seizing of power by (or yielding of power to) a smaller and smaller number of people at the top of the system. All it takes is some fear tactics, well-placed bribes, or other clever manipulation to get people to unwittingly surrender their rights. It doesn't matter what you call the philosophy of those who do the power grab, the end result is the same. There are no benevolent dictators. |
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2011, 12:56:02 PM » |
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Yes. It can be thought of as having to do with centralization of power versus decentralization of power. As we have seen, even a democratic republic can fall victim to a gradual seizing of power by (or yielding of power to) a smaller and smaller number of people at the top of the system. All it takes is some fear tactics, well-placed bribes, or other clever manipulation to get people to unwittingly surrender their rights. It doesn't matter what you call the philosophy of those who do the power grab, the end result is the same. There are no benevolent dictators.
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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2011, 01:31:04 PM » |
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They are getting money from the government to end property and money. These are idiots. Wall Street got their power from the legislation (government). As long as the Fed Reserve keeps printing paper that no one wants to use, things stay the same. End the Fed. End Globalism. http://occupylosangeles.org/ |
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They are getting money from the government to end property and money. These are idiots. Wall Street got their power from the legislation (government). As long as the Fed Reserve keeps printing paper that no one wants to use, things stay the same. End the Fed. End Globalism. http://occupylosangeles.org/End the mindset of control! (it costs less) |
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TPTB tried to discredit MLK JR this way,
saying he had "communist support"..
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TPTB tried to discredit MLK JR this way,
saying he had "communist support"..
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That is correct, the only difference is that this is a Communist (elitist/Corporatist) operation whereas MLK Jr. was a constitutional, capitalistic movement founded on the rights of man rather than the absurd rights of the "state". Also important to note is that MLK Jr. was assassinated by the Pentagon and LBJ because he was planning the "Poor Man's March" or sit-in in DC with millions who could not be ignored. It only took Henry Kissinger, RAND, Rockefeller, and the other Bilderberg psychos 55 years to find a way to impose cybernetic controls over the very idea that got MLK Jr. killed. To learn more about MLK's plan, watch this two hour C-SPAN book review with the man that proved James Earl Ray was not the assassin (by a juryof the State's peers) and how the US Government was guilty of a conspiracy against MLK Jr. Then watch the other documentaries to understand more about the tragedy of the state having too much power over constitutional patriots like MLK, JR.
William Pepper -An Act of State The Execution of MLK
An informative film on the FBI's COINTELPRO conspiracy to kill major black leaders in the 1960s and early 1970s
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why was my post deleted? There was nothing rude or offensive on it.
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