Occupy Wall St Protesters Call For Totalitarian Government, Re-Election Of Obama

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Very impressive rant by a Wall Street protester who "gets it"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCsIqLPjP4A

8 min.

He even gets into states' rights and how they were never intended to be uniformly-governed (controlled) by the feds, but to be unique and independent entities.
"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.

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15 min. with Ratigan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIpKvWQr9-Q

It's hard to argue that big money needs to be removed from elections and the political process, but there are two things about this that make you go "hmmmm"...

1) The word Fed or Federal Reserve isn't mentioned once
2) He/they claim this movement is truly organic
"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.

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I wonder if our forefathers ever faced such political corruption...

I wonder what their attitude was in the face of insurmountable odds from a deceptive evil which causes us to attack each other...

Perhaps we can learn something from these men...


"Many free countries have lost their liberty, and ours may lose hers;
but if she shall, be it my proudest plume, not that I was the last to desert,
but that I never deserted her. I know that the great volcano at Washington,
aroused and directed by the evil spirit that reigns there, is belching forth
the lava of political corruption in a current broad and deep, which is
sweeping with frightful velocity over the whole length and breadth of the
land, bidding fair to leave unscathed no green spot or living thing; while
on its bosom are riding, like demons on the waves of hell, the imps of that
evil spirit, and fiendishly taunting all those who dare resist its destroying
course with the hopelessness of their effort; and, knowing this, I cannot
deny that all may be swept away. Broken by it I, too, may be;
bow to it I never will.
 
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This was spoken in 1839
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I wonder if our forefathers ever faced such political corruption...

I wonder what their attitude was in the face of insurmountable odds from a deceptive evil which causes us to attack each other...

Perhaps we can learn something from these men...



There's nothing new about it! Except maybe the technological angle which only allows them to be exponentially tyrannical.

I've never seen that Lincoln quote but I love this part: "...not that I was the last to desert, but that I never deserted her."

"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.


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Otpor are professional revolutionaries. Alex needs to organize the co-opting of this movement before they do here what they did to Egypt.

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This is unreal!
"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.


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I found this  article posted on rense and it shows how Americans are very angry and fed up with the elite.



Is Hang a Banker Day coming to a Theater near You?

Dog Poet Transmitting.......

May your noses always be cold and wet.

Watch it happen in front of your eyes. The Occupy Wall Street phenom is going viral, diversifying like a stock portfolio and popping up all over the US and in other countries as well. Look at the media not covering it. Look at the media giving out false information concerning the motivation, even to the extent of saying the protestors are protesting against people making 40 to 50 thousand dollars a year, as well as global warming. Understand that the media is owned and operated by the same people who operate at and influence Wall Street. Look at the important names that are appearing in the mix and the American Marines showing up on behalf of the protest as well. In its genesis and presentations, it is about as authentic and threatening to go nova as it can get. This is the real deal.

The traders and bankers are celebrating their imagined invulnerability. In the delusion of their fevered hubris, they are drinking champagne and talking about pouring it on the protestors, in emulation of the bankers and traders at The City of London, who waved banknotes out of their windows as they jeered the protestors. Does this look like they may and should have their heads chopped off and put on display? Does this give you the impression that Hang a Banker Day might be coming to a neighborhood near you soon? This is not an argument in favor or against this. This is an observation of the anger of the vast majority coming up against the defiance, indifference and ridicule of the minority of those causing the conditions for the anger in the first place.

More at link.
http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/2011/10/is-hang-banker-day-coming-to-theater.html
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Feingold: Occupy Wall St. ‘will make the tea party look like a tea party’

“The White House should realize that this would be beneficial to the president and his reelection chances if he recognizes how correct the protesters are to be upset,”
 he said. “It would be a mistake to try to coopt this. I’m hoping a mass movement will encourage the White House to listen to and respond to these concerns.
 It would be politically smart and the right thing to do.”



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/05/feingold-occupy-wall-st-will-make-the-tea-party-look-like-a-tea-party/

yeah yeah..right,russ..they wouldnt want to co-opt this..let things happen organically.
that's priceless.



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http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
Check it out, the Unions are co-opting the movement streaming above.  They are pouring in to the square now.  Still no mention of the fed. Only wall st. and the rich.  Maybe they just need time to get their courage up. ;D

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Please watch the above feed and remove all doubt that this movement has not been co-opted.  What a waste.  It was not hard to see coming however.  The people speaking are promoting the health care bill now. ::)


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http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
Check it out, the Unions are co-opting the movement streaming above.  They are pouring in to the square now.  Still no mention of the fed. Only wall st. and the rich.  Maybe they just need time to get their courage up. ;D
In their own words, see them live as they clamor for more taxes and the Obama health care bill. lol.

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Check it out, the Unions are co-opting the movement streaming above.  They are pouring in to the square now.  Still no mention of the fed. Only wall st. and the rich.  Maybe they just need time to get their courage up. ;D
I am not hearing absolutely any booing of this message, Take note. 

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Don't worry it's like a silo with powdered grain.

All it needs is one (spark) END the FEDer to show up and speak out and the rest will be a domino effect.

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Don't worry it's like a silo with powdered grain.

All it needs is one (spark) END the FEDer to show up and speak out and the rest will be a domino effect.
Hey, it is your dream, make it as big as you wish lol. :D

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Occupy Wall Street ‘Stands In Solidarity’ With Obama Front Group
Why is the official OWS website in league with lobbying fronts for the Wall Street-backed Obama White House?

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, October 5, 2011

Fears expressed by some that the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement is being hijacked by the Democratic Party establishment have intensified after the official OWS website announced that it “stands in solidarity” with MoveOn.org, a lobbying group for the Wall Street-backed Obama administration.

The front page of the http://occupywallst.org/ proudly announces that numerous union groups will be present in New York today to join demonstrators in marches taking place this afternoon.

“Together we will protest this great injustice. We stand in solidarity with the honest workers of….MoveOn.org,” states the website, as well as listing numerous other organizations.



What is MoveOn.org?

MoveOn.org is a lobbying organization that routinely backs Democratic candidates. The group aggressively supported Barack Obama’s 2008 election campaign and is now “Perhaps the lead lobby organization for his policies….apart from Obama’s own Organizing for America,” reports Source Watch.

When MoveOn organized an online donation drive for Obama which raised $320,000, the Obama campaign responded in kind with the legally dubious action of paying MoveOn $18,000 in “credit card processing fees”.

The group also received a $5 million dollar donation from George Soros, who is a keen supporter.
 
Back in 2007, many leftists spoke of their betrayal by MoveOn.org after the group advocated Nancy Pelosi’s funding bill that actually prolonged the war in Iraq and prevented the troops being brought home.

“Join us on Wednesday to create a huge show of support for anti-Wall Street actions nationwide. Together, we’ll add hundreds of thousands of voices expressing our solidarity with the protests at Occupy Wall Street and across the country targeting the bankers who wrecked our economy,” states MoveOn.org’s website.

Yes – the very same bankers – Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase and Citigroup prime amongst them – who financed the Obama campaign, the same campaign vehemently supported by MoveOn.org.

Why does Occupy Wall Street’s support for MoveOn.org represent a problem? Because MoveOn.org is little more than a lobbying front for the Obama administration, which itself is a creature of Wall Street.
 
Another group that OWS website expresses its “solidarity” with, AFL-CIO, has also announced that it will likely back Wall Street puppet Obama in 2012.

The OWS website also stands in solidarity with SEIU (Service Employees International Union), a group that spent $28 million dollars supporting Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, making it the “organization that spent the most to help Barack Obama get elected president.”

Why is the website that has positioned itself as the central hub for Occupy Wall Street activists announcing its support for groups which are little more than Barack Obama lobbying fronts? Wall Street spent millions financing Obama’s path to the White House and are supporting him to an even greater extent in 2012.

Why is a website that claims to represent anti-Wall Street demonstrators siding with groups that have aggressively supported the Wall Street-backed Obama administration?
 
Some have argued that it is not fair to cite postings on OccupyWallst.org as representative of the movement’s character or goals. However, this is not a forum posting by an individual, it is prominently displayed on the front page of the website claiming it represents OWS.
 
Either the Occupy Wall Street website represents an accurate reflection of the sentiments of the protesters, that is supportive of the Wall Street-financed Obama administration and its lobbying front groups such as MoveOn.org, or the message has been hijacked by these very groups.
 
Either way it represents a threat to the promise made by other OWS activists to remain non-partisan.
 
Who is running this website and why are they ‘standing in solidarity’ with organizations like MoveOn.org that have aggressively supported the Wall-Street backed Obama administration?
 
I am going to submit this question to the forum users on the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ website and write a follow up piece on their response. That way we can move a lot closer to understanding whether what is posing as the official website for this “leaderless” group is really representative of the OWS demonstrators or not.

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I read somewhere that Van Jones has also had something to do with the Occupy WallStreet crowd, anybody got anything on this?

I'm going to head over to infoshop.org and see what I can find out as far as potential strategies and see if there are any COINTEL types stirring the muck over there. Just a heads up, that website is the website our intel support scanned on a regular basis when we were training for the G8 In Georgia. I shan't be posting there, just lurking.
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Occupy the Federal Reserve Movement Launched
http://www.infowars.com/occupy-the-federal-reserve-movement-launched/




Infowars Press Release
Infowars.com
October 3, 2011
Occupy the Federal Reserve; End the Fed ProtestsThe Occupy Wall Street crowd has become predictably focused on issues like taxing the middle class and moderately “rich,” ending capitalism and even re-electing Obama to ‘fight’ the very elites who pushed him into power. Focus should instead be on the real source of power for the out-of-control bankster class- the private, unaccountable Federal Reserve bank that creates money out of thin air, issues secret loans to insiders and foreign governments and systematically institutes debt on the American people through their undue powers.
With this in mind, Alex Jones is calling on patriots to “occupy” branches of the Federal Reserve, with plans to appear at three locations in Texas this weekend in Dallas, Houston and San Antonio. The times and locations appear below. Further, people everywhere should converge upon Fed locations in their area to raise awareness about the real culprit behind the economic crisis.
Well meaning protesters who have joined the Occupy Wall Street effort, including solidarity activities in cities everywhere, need to be educated about the power held by this insidious institution, as well as the false solutions that have been proposed by leading figures on the left and right that only further expand the scope of big government, all while avoiding the elephant in the room.
Join Alex at locations throughout Texas or begin to address the issues at the Federal Reserve branch in your location. Don’t wait for orders from headquarters– go to the sound of the guns in this information war to awaken minds and stop the massive transfer of wealth being manipulated by the very offshore interests who control the Fed and even steer the protests at Wall Street.
FEDERAL RESERVE LOCATIONS:

The Twelve Federal Reserve Districts
**Note: There are several dozen more branch locations. Please check the Federal Reserve district near you
Join Alex at the Fed at these times/dates or find a Fed near you!
Dallas Federal Reserve
Friday Oct. 7 @ 6pm
2200 North Pearl Street
Dallas, TX 75201-2272
(214) 922-6000
Houston Branch of the Dallas Federal Reserve
Sat. Oct. 8 @ High Noon
1801 Allen Pkwy
Houston, TX 77019-2507
(713) 483-3000
San Antonio Branch of the Dallas Federal Reserve
Sunday Oct. 9 @ 10am – Noon
126 E Nueva
San Antonio, TX 78204-1020
(210) 224-2141
FLASHBACK: Alex Jones Bullhorns Federal Reserve branch in Dallas 11-22-2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFEr0tNMEQg&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twSjQpixovU&feature=player_embedded




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 Bernake, a intelligent sociopath bent o the fall of this nation.
Whne Sen Sanders asked this freak about credit card rates of 30% and stated they illegla usery in fact.
  Bernake lost his voice, stared at his table, and responded with nothing moran a shrug and grunt.
  Could this seemingly small incident open some eyes. Oh Ya, I realize this appears igsignifent, but the fact he defened usury is trason.

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Occupy Wall Street: Who Wants to Hijack the Movement?

 

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October 7, 2011

Media spokesmen for the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations claimed that their operation is totally transparent, with everything subject to democratic discussion in a general assembly of all comers. But eyewitness reports from experienced observers on the ground in lower Manhattan indicate a much different reality behind these bland assurances. Forces appeared to be at work behind the scenes to manipulate the protest movement into a posture of supporting the presidential candidacy of Wall Street puppet Obama.

Eyewitness observers suggest that the deliberations of the general assembly are largely a diversion, and that real power is being increasingly concentrated in the hands of about 20 mysterious and anonymous individuals who appear to make up a kind of covert steering committee that pulls the strings on the general assembly, or else goes around it completely. The members of this cadre of mysterious operatives are not as young as the average demonstrator. The secret leadership is made up of people ranging in age from 25 to over 40, with the older ones occupying the key posts. Many of them appear to be active duty or recently retired military.
A Covert Steering Committee Behind the Scenes?

Attempts to ascertain the names of the behind-the-scenes leaders are met with stonewalling. When pressed to reveal her identity, one female leader gave her name as “Mary MIA.” Another gave his name as “Tony POW.”

If the leaders of OWS want to be transparent, let them make public at least the full names of the people who are actually running the show. No one wants to join a movement with anonymous leaders.

Observers have noticed that almost all of the likely members of the secret steering committee disappear from view between 4 and 6 p.m. each afternoon, right before the opening of the general assembly, for which they then re-appear. It is assumed that they are attending a closed-door meeting, but the general assembly is not officially informed of this fact.
Strange Bedfellows

Two individuals who appear to belong to the higher levels of the pecking order in Zuccotti Park are pictured above. The one on the left calls himself “Brendan.” When newspaper correspondents and other media representatives arrive, he is often the one who handles relations with them. “Brendan” looks old enough to be the father of many of the demonstrators.

The person pictured above on the right is a frequent speaker in the general assembly. He also has a role in relations with the press. According to one protester, he may have connections to the US military, but this has not been confirmed. Is his do-rag or bandana a fashion statement, or something else?

Who are these people? Who appointed them? To whom are they accountable?

Who Invited Michael Moore?

The general assembly is supposed to approve all major decisions. In reality, it appears to be occupied with endless deliberations about trivia while the really big decisions are being made someplace else. A case in point are the invitations which have obviously been extended to a whole series of discredited left liberal figures, many of them deeply implicated in inflicting the Obama presidency and continued Wall Street rule on our nation. Michael Moore, Naomi Klein, Mike Myers, and left-IMF ideologue Joseph Stiglitz have all appeared, and a visit by Noam Chomsky, a devoted supporter of the Bush theory of terrorism, is reportedly in the works. Eyewitnesses have reported that most demonstrators were not happy with the presence of the millionaire Michael Moore, who was using the demonstrations as props for his usual routine of self-promotion. But these objections carried no weight. Regular participants in the general assembly report that they were never consulted about whether to invite these left liberals. It is therefore a good guess that the invitations were actually issued by the secret steering committee. The general idea is once again to reduce the protest movement to a mere auxiliary in the effort to get Obama reelected.
The Consensus Straitjacket

The members of the secret steering committee have taken a leading role in imposing the unwieldy and time-consuming formalism of always reaching a consensus in the general assembly, meaning that any significant opposition can block the implementation of urgent actions. A simple up or down majority vote is not enough. (The last governing assembly of any major nation to give each member a veto over the actions of the whole body was the aristocratic Polish Diet of the 18th century, which was so dysfunctional that it led to Poland being obliterated from the map of Europe – not an example to be imitated.)

The consensus method provides immense comfort to the predatory speculators of Wall Street, since it virtually guarantees that no potent and controversial strategy to break the power of finance capital can emerge. Indeed, it guarantees that absolutely nothing will be able to emerge in an emergency after a rapid turn in the overall situation. The US Congress is paralyzed by a minority, but the consensus rules of the general assembly mean that it can be paralyzed by a tiny clique bent on sabotage. In the background, the covert steering committee is busy creating a series of faits accomplis.

The deliberations of the general assembly are one big filibuster. On October 4, much of the session was taken up with an agonized discussion of whether to buy or knit and sew sleeping bags as the nights became colder. Right-wing commentators hostile to the protests had a field day using this grotesque scene to mock the entire movement.

Those who run the General assembly sessions are known as facilitators. The relation of these facilitators to the secret steering committee is being investigated.

The OWS Declaration: Not One Concrete Demand for Americans

While the General assembly is occupied with questions like what to order for lunch as part of the shipments of free food that mysteriously appear at the demonstration site, the vital issue of program is left to a subcommittee. On October 5, the Olbermann evening news featured a reading of the Occupy Wall Street Declaration, written by protesters Ryan Hoffman and Lex Rendon. This document does not offer an analysis of the current economic crisis. Rather, it represents a laundry list of complaints, many valid and some spurious. Most important, this document contains not one concrete demand, measure, or program point on which the protesters are willing to pledge that they will be fighting for the interests of the American people. In that sense, it is a document of moral and intellectual impotence. It whines and complains, but it will do nothing to combat the widespread suspicion of the OWS movement felt in many quarters because of the Soros endorsement.

Economic demands are absolutely vital. The movement needs to offer specific solutions for the grave abuses and economic tragedies which are plaguing working people. These demands acquire a material power as they gain mass support. To get support from the inner-city ghetto, from the farm belt, from women, from labor, from the elderly, their vital concerns must be directly addressed. These groups absolutely do not need more analysis telling them how bad things are. They already know that. They need to see a social force which is ready to take leadership in accomplishing radical reforms -or else the revolution, as the case may be.

Student Loan Amnesty Now Paid for by 1% Wall Street Sales Tax

One obvious demand which needs to be included is an immediate amnesty or cancellation of all outstanding student loans. The zombie banks which have been bailed out by the United States government can and should eat their part of the $1 trillion which will have to be written off. The loans guaranteed by the government can be offset by new tax income from a 1% Wall Street sales tax on all financial turnover, including stocks, bonds, and derivatives. Estimates of the additional revenue from a Wall Street sales tax of this type start in the hundreds of billions of dollars and go into the trillions. The proceeds could be split between the federal government and the states, for the purposes of maintaining the social safety net and vital public services. Ordinary people pay sales tax, while bankers pay nothing. One bright spot in the demonstrations has been the presence of the nurses’ union, which has been militantly advocating just such a Tobin tax or financial transactions tax. Student loan amnesty now paid for by a 1% Wall St sales tax is a demand which could blow the lid off US politics once and for all.

Economic program is a science. It requires the mastery of many fields. Serious, intelligent people need to put their gifts to work mastering the science of economic program as part of their social responsibility to the American people.

The Indignados of Madrid: Europe’s Biggest Failures

According to reliable reports, the consensus method was imposed via the steering committee preparing for the demonstrations during the summer months. Individuals claiming to be students from Spain and Greece arrived and joined the steering committee, where they advocated the crippling consensus method. They pointed to the general assemblies held by the indignados of Madrid, a movement of youthful protesters concerned about austerity measures, youth unemployment, the excessive power of bankers, and economic injustice. But, even compared with Tunis, Cairo, Athens, and Reykjavík, the Madrid indignados must be judged as the biggest failure of them all, because of their total inability to oust the “socialist” IMF agent Zapatero, the enforcer of genocidal austerity demanded by the banks, or to block any of the austerity cuts. The indignados had no positive impact whatsoever on Spanish politics. Why imitate failure? This is the side of the current protests which Wall Street predator George Soros was happy to endorse this week.

A New International Otpor?

Observers are reminded of Otpor, the organization created by the CIA and the National Endowment for Democracy for the purpose of overthrowing the Serbian strongman Milosevic in 2000. After that color revolution had occurred, the leaders of Otpor turned their experience into an immensely lucrative consultancy under which they were assigned by the CIA and the NED to Ukraine, Georgia, Lebanon, and Egypt to train the operatives that would overthrow national leaders which the US wanted to get rid of. Have indignados veterans opened a new counterinsurgency franchise of this kind?

The “Theoretician”: Anarchist Peter Gelderloos, Fetishist of Consensus

Last night Occupy Wall Street spokesman Matthew Swaye appeared on the Ed Show of MSNBC, and announced that the main theoretician of the consensus straitjacket is anarchist Peter Gelderloos, author of the book Consensus. Swaye praised the “intricate process” of the general assemblies, where votes are expressed by thumbs up or thumbs down. Gelderloos, who is almost unknown in the United States, was arrested in Spain in 2007, and during his trial became a sort of minor celebrity in certain circles there. This may explain why the indignados leaders were indoctrinated with his belief structure. Gelderloos’s system is a Procrustean bed on which not many in their right mind will be willing to lie down.

Television appearances by protesters Kelly Heresy, Tyler Combelic, Ryan Hoffman, Lex Rendon and Swaye in recent days all have one common characteristic – their absolute inability to formulate a single demand or program which would speak to the urgent needs of the broader American public. Instead, many of them used the few precious minutes they had extolling the virtues of the imbecilic consensus model as the basis for some future Utopia. Hard-pressed working people do not have time for these pipe dreams. American working people urgently need help in finding a job, in blocking a foreclosure, in obtaining health care, and in getting out from under the crushing burden of student loans. Who chose these spokespersons?

So far, the current Wall Street protests have offered these embattled Americans virtually nothing but an unfulfilled promissory note.

Sam Seder, a former broadcaster for the failed Air America network and Obama backer, has argued that the movement should never come up with a program of concrete demands. This is the choice that would suit Obama. Unless and until the protest movement tells the American people what it is willing to fight for on their behalf, it risks becoming a mere collection of roustabouts for the Obama reelection campaign.

The stakes are much too high to let this happen. If this movement fails, fascism may be much closer than many people think. It must succeed, and to succeed it immediately requires a series of intelligible goals.


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Cynthia McKinney's Reflections on "Occupied Wall Street" and
the Ruling Class Attempts to Neutralize the Struggle




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I have been wanting to do an update on Fukushima and say to you all that quiet does not mean all is well: just like with Libya. Quiet usually means it's getting worse and there's a mess to cleanup before the next report. It is so with both Fukushima and Libya (from the NATO perspective).

But, because I'm so busy reading other works for which I have a deadline, I have not had the opportunity to write the Fukushima piece. I know many of you are Mike Ruppert fans, and Mike begins his address at a fundraiser for KBOO independent radio in Portland, Oregon with a discussion about Fukushima. So, in lieu of my writing, here is Mike Ruppert speaking on 9/11/11:
http://www.collapsenet.com/

On Saturday, October 8, I will be in Benton Harbor, Michigan, with Reverend Pinkney and BANCO, still fighting the land grab there and every attack imaginable on the right of the Black people there to live on Lake Michigan's last "undeveloped" tracts of land. If you're near, please support the work of the people of Benton Harbor, just to live in dignity. If you're not near, please support BANCO in another way. The valiant Reverend Pinkney can be reached at banco9342@sbcglobal.net.

Youtube is sporting an October 4, 2011 video of a man in St. Louis who was denied entry into his Bank of America branch because he wanted to withdraw his own money from the Bank. He was greeted by SWAT police!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db_P0wHsSz0&feature=player_embedded.

I support all of the occupy movements. This is what we think we've been waiting for. But, we must not be tricked, bamboozeld, or fooled as innocent people were with the Libya lies. Therefore, the occupy teams must learn the lessons of the Tea Party so as to prevent being coopted. This piece from Wayne Madsen warns of the dangers and needs to be posted everywhere because it is a warning:

October 4-5, 2011 -- Soros is attempting to take over "Occupy America" movement


Wall Street and London hedge fund tycoon George Soros sent a signal to his minions and infiltrators when he stated that he sympathized with the Occupy Wall Street movement. Soros's statement dovetailed with David Plouffe, President Obama's Senior Adviser, making contact with certain newly-minted "leaders" of the "Occupy" movement across the United States to ensure that they are as politically-manipulated by the White House as a vast majority of "Tea Party" members have been manipulated by senior Republican Party officials and the billionaire Koch Brothers.


Essentially, Soros and the Koch Brothers have ensured that the anti-corporate state movement in the United States, represented by the Democratic and Republican parties, remains split between artificially-created "left" and "right" camps and fractures into even smaller competing blocs within the two major camps.

The "divide and conquer" strategy is frustrating real attempts to mobilize the American people against Wall Street and lobbyist-occupied Washington.

Plouffe and his operatives want to ensure that the "Occupy" street protests generically call for "jobs," "public education," "Social Security," "health care," and the "environment," as long as they do not take on an anti-Obama tone. Essentially, protesters can call for "jobs," and the Soros-funded manipulators will claim on the slight-expanding main stream media coverage of the "Occupy" protests that the protesters want the Congress to approve Obama's jobs bill. When the protesters call for "health care for all," the Soros opinion manipulators will tell the main stream media that the protesters are against any repeal of "Obamacare."

This campaign to infiltrate the "Occupy" movement has all the fingerprints of Cass Sunstein, the head of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. Sunstein has pioneered in the use of social networking and media technologies to engage in "cognitive infiltration" of anti-government movements. Now that the White House and Soros are engaged in joint damage control, Sunstein's policies are being applied throughout the main stream and social media. One meme that has been spread is that the protesters lack "goals" and a "single voice."

Gawker.com is reporting that now entering the scene is the top-shelf Manhattan public relations firm Workhouse Publicity, whose clients include Saks Fifth Avenue and Mercedes-Benz, hardly firms that would sympathize with unemployed protesters, which has pro bono started to send out press releases to the corporate media on behalf of the "Occupy" movement.

At the progressive Democratic "Take Back the American Dream" conference in Washington, the "Occupy" movement was being hailed by many of the same groups that are funded, some to almost 100 percent, by Soros and his affiliated tax-free contrivances, including the Open Society Institute/Foundation and Tides Foundation. WMR learned that Plouffe was in contact with many of the organizations involved in the progressive conference to ensure that anti-Obama rhetoric was tamped down. The move succeeded with anti-Obama feelings only being discussed by union and other activist rank-and-file attendees and not by any of the speakers who represented such Soros-supported conference sponsors as Center for American Progress, Media Matters,MoveOn.org, and Netroots Nation.

Soros, working with the Obama White House, has called into service veterans of popular movement catalytic and infiltration movements, including "themed revolution" and social media uprisings, in Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Libya, Iran, Ukraine, Serbia, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Lebanon and other countries. The "Arab Spring" backfired on Soros and his allies because the infiltrators could not guarantee the majority of the protesters would be pro-West, pro-capitalist, and ambivalent on Israel.

The major marching orders for these infiltrators is to take over the "leadership vacuum" of the "Occupy" movement and steer it into voicing support for Obama's pro-Wall Street policies without the protesters, themselves, unaware that they are supporting the status quo. The strategy is to ensure that no new and unrecognized leaders appear from within the movement, whether from union or political rank-and-file ranks. Leaders who are not already known quantities and who might resist control by political and financial interests will be eclipsed by those who have been on the Soros payroll for years.

The only way for the Occupy movement to ensure its independence is to begin fashioning protest signs that read: "SOROS IS WALL STREET!"and "OBAMA - OWNED AND OPERATED BY WALL STREET!"

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com

I have made contact with the author of the definitive book on Operation Gladio (more on him and his book later) and he tells me that BBC's Timewatch documentary is very, very good. Please take the time this weekend and watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fB6nViwJcM. I will be talking about this more, particularly in light of certain revelations coming from Iraq, PakistaWen, and Libya.

Another video that I find to be very good (so far, I haven't seen it all) is The Secret History of the Global Financial Collapse. I'm watching to see how much of the truth the authors tell. It can be seen here:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/meltdown/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TopDocumentaryFilms+%28Top+Documentary+Films+-+Watch+Free+Documentaries+Online%29

Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya has broken some very important stories on Libya in the last two weeks. Did anyone see them reproduced on Alternet, Common Dreams, Counterpunch, Huffington Post, Democracy Now!, and the like that fill my inbox with information? If not, there is a reason for that. It is certainly not because what Mahdi has to say is not newsworthy! He has documents to support all of the information he is sharing with us. We have two more installments before the release of blockbuster, irrefutable information that the war against Libya is a fraud. Clearly, to ignore this information is to support the war against Libya--Africa--and continues the illusion that President Obama only inherited bad wars.

Once one is confronted with the genocidal truth of Obama's policies in Africa, the question must be asked, "What are we prepared to do about it?" If people are denied the important information, they will never ask themselves this all-important question. Stay tuned for the third, fourth, and final blockbuster revelations of the upcoming installments of information coming from Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya and company.

Source--
http://panafricannews.blogspot.com/2011/10/cynthia-mckinney-reflections-on-wall.html

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That was an excellent read notanumber, thanks for that.  You all should check it out.

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Cynthia McKinney is not only one sharp gal, courage, determination and heart.

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Breaking Point Rich-Poor

Will rich-poor cause class warfare?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wired-success/201009/will-income-inequality-cause-class-warfare

News flash: class warfare is already being waged, and, contrary to what right-wing ideologues might like everyone to believe, it's the ultra-rich who are waging this war, and they've been doing so for decades:

“There’s class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

-- Warren Buffet, New York Times, November 26, 2006

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http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26821

The Class War in America: The Rich Get Richer...

by Joel S. Hirschhorn



Global Research
September 28, 2011

Much is being said by Republicans about a class war being waged by President Obama and Democrats. In their fantasy world this class war is attacking so called job creators. All this talk is pure nonsense, absolutely false and misleading, intentional political garbage designed to intentionally mislead gullible Americans to believe the lies. Here is the truth: There has, indeed, been a class war waged in the US ; it has been going on for a good thirty years. And this real war has been won.

There are official data over time called the Gini index or coefficient between zero and one that is a statistical measure of economic inequality. When it is zero national income is evenly distributed among all citizens, and when it is one all the income goes to one person. Obviously the Gini figure will be somewhere between zero and one. Some nations have very low values and others very high ones. In the high category is the US . But more important is that the index has changed over time, rising from about 1980 to current times, after it had remained fairly stable over several decades. That significant rise from about .37 to .45 shows unequivocally that the rich got richer as most of the population in the middle class and below lost ground.

To truly appreciate what has happened you must seriously examine some data. For example, between 1979 and 2005 the inflation-adjusted income of families in the middle of the income distribution rose 21 percent. That is very slow growth, especially compared with the 100 percent rise in median income over a generation after World War II when inequality actually decreased. More importantly, over the same period, the income of the very rich, the top 100th of 1 percent of the income distribution, rose by 480 percent. Absorb that number for a few moments. In 2005 dollars, the average annual income of that group rose from $4.2 million to $24.3 million. Those numbers describe the true class war in which the rich and powerful were the clear winner.

Presently, according to new estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, one-fourth of those with incomes of more than $1 million a year pay income and payroll tax of 12.6 percent of their income or less, putting their tax burden below that of many in the middle class who are likely pay twice that amount or even more. The class war winners are clear.

Need more convincing? Consider data from the Tax Foundation. Between 1987 and 2008, the share of income controlled by the top 1 percent grew to 20 percent from 12 percent. That equates to a total share growth of 67 percent. During the same period, their share of taxes went to 28 percent from 24 percent, indicating a share growth of 17 percent. Follow that? The top 1 percent share of income grew nearly five times faster than their share of taxes: 67 percent versus 17 percent. Pretty darn good deal. So forget all that malarkey from Republicans that the rich pay so much of the nation’s taxes unfairly. The class war winners are reaping the rewards of a two-party plutocracy that they own.

Here is another dose of class war reality. The top 1 percent share of total pre-tax income rose from about 10 percent in 1980 to 21 percent in 2008, a nice doubling that helps explain the rise in economic inequality. It really pays to win the class war.

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But because the establishment waved Michael Moore in our faces, we're supposed to just ignore all that now.

Wall Street is now synonymous with "free market capitalism" (rather than corporate fascism), and anyone who dares assert otherwise is immediately and arrogantly accused of being a liberty-hating "socialist" or "communist."

Hence the point I keep making that it isn't just the mush-headed Marxist types at Occupy Wall Street who are being deceived and manipulated by elite-funed propaganda. Many if not most of their right-wing critics are being played like fiddles as well.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://schalkenbach.org
http://www.monetary.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

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Geo. Good find,to the point. (the elites are in pig heaven celebrating the manipulation of the commoners).
       Do you remember them labeling w/term ( the silent majority)?
       Isn't that synonimous with the moronic majority.
I actualy heard a politician saying on stage, We ( the Gov) know what the silent majority want and were giving it to them. Early 70's.     Go figure!

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The real culprit message is getting out!

"Occupy Ottawa" Protests Set For October 15th
Brad Wisker - Saturday, October 8, 2011
http://cfra.com/?cat=1&nid=82031

The report cites Sparks Street, the Bank of Canada building, the World Exchange Plaza and the Human Rights Memorial as possible locations for the protests, ultimately losing in favour of Confederation Park.
"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Geo. Good find,to the point. (the elites are in pig heaven celebrating the manipulation of the commoners).
       Do you remember them labeling w/term ( the silent majority)?
       Isn't that synonimous with the moronic majority.
I actualy heard a politician saying on stage, We ( the Gov) know what the silent majority want and were giving it to them. Early 70's.     Go figure!

Fortunately, people are starting to wake up to this manipulation. The problem is that this awakening hasn't reached critical mass yet (as the false and pointless debate over which head of the multi-headed banking monster is the "real enemy" illustrates).
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://schalkenbach.org
http://www.monetary.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

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The real culprit message is getting out!

Only to a small extent, because the true culprit is privilege (see this, this and this).

But that doesn't make for a catchy enough slogan, so everyone ignores it and wastes time arguing over which side of the oligarchical coin is the "real enemy."
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://schalkenbach.org
http://www.monetary.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

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What about an Occupy the TSA movement?

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What about an Occupy the TSA movement?

As I tried to explain here, no form of mass resistance -- no matter how well-intentioned -- has any chance of success unless it's based on an agreed-upon policy agenda. And not just any policy agenda, but one that allows a critical mass of people to unite from all across the political spectrum (you don't have to be a "capitalist" to be opposed to Nazi-style police state measures or imperialist wars of aggression, and you don't have to be a "socialist" to be opposed to corporate welfare or banker bailouts).

If we spread our limited time and resources too thin attacking (non-violently) hundreds of different brush fires, we'll never get anywhere. That's why I advocate concentrating our energy in a focused effort to exert non-stop, round-the-clock pressure on Congress to implement said agenda, since it was bad public policy that created all these political and socioeconomic brush fires in the first place.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://schalkenbach.org
http://www.monetary.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

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From the website--
http://occupyvancouver.com/index.php?page=2

What is the goal? Why are we protesting?

"This protest cannot be boiled down to a simple soundbite because this protest is ambitiously seeking a complex, fundamental, philosophical change in the social, political, and economic infrastructure of our country... The strength of Occupy... lies in the ambiguity of its mission. There is no laundry list of specific, unreasonable, and untenable demands. There is only the demand for change. Change of, by, and for the people, enacted by our elected officials. If the powers-that-be respond with absolutely nothing, then it is clear that they will never, ever be interested in effecting substantial change of our financial system, no matter how strong public support may be."

- Edward Murray, Huffington Post"

Let's have a closer look at what Edward is saying--

1. "The strength of Occupy... lies in the ambiguity of its mission." --Strength from ambiguity?! Since when? Strength for who?-the gov intel controllers behind the scenes if the protestors do not have a clear set of demands/objectives?

2. "There is no laundry list of specific, unreasonable, and untenable demands." --Unreasonable, untenable? Okay, then let's have some reasonable tenable ones--fyi--see Webster Tarpley's 5 Point Program--
Have a look at this "laundry list" you need it.
http://tarpley.net/five-point-program.pdf

3. "There is only the demand for change. Change of, by, and for the people, enacted by our elected officials." --well that sounds familiar--the demand for change. Change equals more Hope & Change which equals the people get screwed and the banksters make a killing.

4. "If the powers-that-be respond with absolutely nothing, then it is clear that they will never, ever be interested in effecting substantial change of our financial system, no matter how strong public support may be." -- "I'm gonna give you one more chance said the masochist to the sadist." PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you don't ALREADY KNOW THIS NOW--YOU ARE ASLEEP!


FYI--Don't listen to these agents of the controllers (or else he is a complete idiot--one or the other) like Edward Murray of the Huffington Post.


If you don't have specific a set of demands/goals, you will be manipulated and used by the elite that you claim to be protesting against.


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"The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact, there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking-not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."

1984, Orwell
"No man can put a chain about the ankle of his fellow man without at last finding the other end fastened about his own neck."  -Frederick Douglass

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Webster Tarpley on now---Occupy Wall Street Updates and Analysis
« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2011, 02:11:12 PM »
Webster Tarpley on now---Occupy Wall Street Updates and Analysis--

Listen --World Crisis Radio
http://www.gcnlive.com/

MP3 available later tonight here:
http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/

Webster's latest article--
http://tarpley.net/2011/10/07/occupy-wall-street-who-wants-to-hijack-the-movement/