NBC universal taking Loose change off of you tube

[twitzulu]

One version of the 2nd edition had over 6 million views and was taken down due to copyright claim due to Universal, another had over 2million views was taken down, now they've taken the final cut off due to a copyright claim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28QukKjwLtI.  So the biggest 9/11 movie is being censored from you tube.  And all the news Clips are covered by fair use........

[worcesteradam]

A three-part NBC television miniseries, also called Loose Change, was televised February 26 to 28, 1978 

[twitzulu]

lol I wonder if this was the copyright claim filed, I hope Alex or Dylan Avery puts a new version up that wont get taken down

[Constitutionary]

Screw them goto video Google.com

Loose Change Final Cut

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598&ei=3C3YSYvbKIKwrAKQqqzLAQ&q=Loose+Change+Final+Cut

 

[PeaceAndFreedom]

One version of the 2nd edition had over 6 million views and was taken down due to copyright claim due to Universal, another had over 2million views was taken down, now they've taken the final cut off due to a copyright claim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28QukKjwLtI.  So the biggest 9/11 movie is being censored from you tube.  And all the news Clips are covered by fair use........

YouTube itself in near totality, was supposed to be a fair use zone. By structure, a site consisting of mostly short excerpts, with room made for commentary, criticism and satire/parody, met the statutory fair use criteria from A to Z, and as such was to be entirely exempt from copyright claims. But, in swooped NSA/Big Corporate toadie Google to buy up YouTube a few years ago, even though it was making no money, and all of a sudden in came all the automatic scripts that shut down fair use content the media giants didn't want to stay up.

Now your uploads aren't presumed to be under fair use by default, as YouTube was originally set up, but is subject to the DMCA treatment by default. If you formally challenge the take down of content on fair use grounds, under law you're expected to cough up your ID info, exposing yourself to a copyright lawsuit (however bogus) by the deep pocketed Big Corporations. Google/YouTube is now evolving towards forcing every member to divulge their real identifying info upfront, perhaps making it even easier to sue uploaders. Thus was a site whose popularity was built on it being a defacto public domain oasis, turned into just another outlet for state/corporate 'flick a switch, shut you down' control of information.

[twitzulu]

yeah the copyright claim is a joke and its just censorship as the above post explains, good post

[twitzulu]

Screw them goto video Google.com

Loose Change Final Cut

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598&ei=3C3YSYvbKIKwrAKQqqzLAQ&q=Loose+Change+Final+Cut

 

Its only a matter of time till they delete that and flush it down the memory hole, Dylan Avery and co also have pretty much given up on 9/11 (guess I cant blame them) so it will be hard to get one back up

[mattj]

Who cares Loose Change was a joke. Dylan didn't care about 9/11 all he cared about was making money.

[CheneysWorstNightmare]

Who cares Loose Change was a joke. Dylan didn't care about 9/11 all he cared about was making money.

Suck a cock, jackass.

[ekimdrachir]

The internet is over. It was great knowing you all even just for a moment. Get ready for Shocktober friends.

[tritonman]

The internet is over. It was great knowing you all even just for a moment. Get ready for Shocktober friends.

I'm more curious as to what might be in the works for 11/11/.   I know it is just to obvious but I will feel better whe we are by that month for sure.

[tritonman]

On a side note, I was just noticing that the film is still available on Netflix.

[twitzulu]

On a side note, I was just noticing that the film is still available on Netflix.

The 2nd editiion, by far the most popular isnt on netflix, it had about 6.5 million views and another had 2.5 million views on YT all were taken down by nbc universal

[RonPaulRocks]

The 2nd editiion, by far the most popular isnt on netflix, it had about 6.5 million views and another had 2.5 million views on YT all were taken down by nbc universal

6.5 million is nothing.  Loose Change 2nd Edition has been watched about 100,000,000 times world wide.  It is the foundation of the whole 9/11 truth movement.

Along with 9/11 Mysteries which was made around the same time which also had millions of views and got pulled.

[DAVIDE MTL]

it's still on you tube, but the one I found has 28000 views

[twitzulu]

6.5 million is nothing.  Loose Change 2nd Edition has been watched about 100,000,000 times world wide.  It is the foundation of the whole 9/11 truth movement.

Along with 9/11 Mysteries which was made around the same time which also had millions of views and got pulled.

Again the 6 million is the most verifiable views available that was taken down, google video doesnt keep view stats but the 2nd edition recut had about 6 million views before google stopped counting views (the original 2nd edition had a lot more), but as it stands that full length version of the second edition on YT was the most views that are verifiable with Loose change.

[mattj]

Suck a cock, jackass.

Wow thank you for adding so much to this thread.

Do you think Richard Gage needs a 2nd edition or final cut? NO
Loose Change 1st Edition was so bad they needed a 2nd edition and then a final cut. Most of the 9/11 debunkers use Loose Change as their starting point, do you know why?

[worcesteradam]

of course he cared about 9/11, liar

[twitzulu]

Wow thank you for adding so much to this thread.

Do you think Richard Gage needs a 2nd edition or final cut? NO
Loose Change 1st Edition was so bad they needed a 2nd edition and then a final cut. Most of the 9/11 debunkers use Loose Change as their starting point, do you know why?

NO other movie has awoken people to 9/11 than Loose change.  And just because some somethings were unproven doesnt mean everything is not valid and that people watching can't use critical thinking to further research themselves (even I don't believe everything said but just because you might be wrong about a few things doesn't mean you're wrong about everything, nor does it mean you had bad intentions.  All people who investigate crimes have theories some are compelling some turn out not to be so as further investigation goes forward, this is not some intentional diabolical plan) 

Lots of good info in those films such as the explosions. building 7, lucky larry, confiscation of video, blocked investigations, eyewitness testimony, Mineta testimony, freefall, squibs, passports and bandanas being found,  black boxes not being found etc.  The only reason people try and debunk Loose change the most is because it's the most popular.

[twitzulu]

it's still on you tube, but the one I found has 28000 views

There were 2 2nd editions the most popular version full length(not split up) thats were taken down, the final cut wasnt nearly as viral, but they are taking that down as well

[RabidSheep]

They recently televised Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup on the channel HD.Net. This was aired on 9/11. I was in shock.

[ghost hacked]

Well, to be honest, Loose Change is a pretty crappy movie compared to some of the other 9/11 videos/movies I have seen.  That is just my opinion.

But all they need to do is change the title of the movie and upload it again, problem solved.

[PeaceAndFreedom]

But the problem there is that 'Loose Change' is an established brand for 9-11 issues, and so the film will be harder for interested people to locate if retitled---which is exactly the establishment's intention. Perhaps the uploaders should do something clever and rename it "Change Loose," so that any broad web search will still find the video, thus defeating the censorship designs of NBC and YouTube. They could also threaten to sue YouTube if they don't restore the viewer count, which also attracts people to watch something, out of curiosity.

[ghost hacked]

But the problem there is that 'Loose Change' is an established brand for 9-11 issues, and so the film will be harder for interested people to locate if retitled---which is exactly the establishment's intention. Perhaps the uploaders should do something clever and rename it "Change Loose," so that any broad web search will still find the video, thus defeating the censorship designs of NBC and YouTube. They could also threaten to sue YouTube if they don't restore the viewer count, which also attracts people to watch something, out of curiosity.

After thinking about this for a few minutes, they can fight this. Because there have been movies of the same name but are quite different. There is no trademark or copywrite on the title of anything unless specifically done.

Otherwise music artists would be suing each other because they have the same name for the song, when they are quite different.

For example. Anyone could use 'The Fight' as a movie title. But you won't be able to use Tron, because it is a registered trademark. But even the lines there seem to be blurred.