The Herman Cain Deception

Author Topic: The Herman Cain Deception  (Read 8121 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
The Herman Cain Deception
« on: September 26, 2011, 05:12:01 pm »
http://www.prisonplanet.com/herman-cain-wins-florida-straw-poll-in-stunning-victory-rick-perry-in-deep-trouble.html

Herman Cain wins Florida straw poll in stunning victory; Rick Perry in deep trouble

ARC CAPUTO, ALEX LEARY AND MICHAEL C. BENDER
Miami Herald
Sept 25, 2011

[...]

Perry’s supporters tried to spin the results as a “devastating” defeat for Romney because he couldn’t overtake Perry.

But other delegates said they’re both losers.

“This seriously undermines the electability of Perry and Romney,” said Ralph Camp, 64, of Marianna, who voted for Cain.

Ana Navarro, of Miami-Dade and an advisor to Jon Huntsman, said Perry is more show than substance.

“Rick Perry is a Texas stud, a real macho-man who looks great in cowboy hat and boots and was supposed to come galloping on his stallion to rescue Republicans and lead us to the promise land,” said Navarro, an advisor to Huntsman’s campaign. “But it’s become increasingly clear he can’t perform. He has electile dysfunction.”

Pinellas County delegate Rachelle Warmouth said Perry’s loss wouldn’t end his campaign. But the debate performance and the effect it’s having on party loyalists are a call to step up his game.

“He’ll have to have a strong recovery,” she said. “He needs to focus on his message.”

Full article here
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline MonkeyPuppet

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,982
  • aut libertas aut mors

They really really like pizza?

Income Tax: Shattering The Myths
w w w . original intent . o r g

The 1911 in .45 ACP... don't leave home without it!  Safety first!!

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
http://www.infowars.com/why-herman-cain-won/

Why Herman Cain Won

Laurence Vance
LRC Blog
September 25, 2011

Herman Cain won the Florida straw poll with more votes than Perry and Romney combined. Why? I can think of two reasons–and neither of them are that he is a warmonger, worked for the FED, supports the FairTax, supported Romney in 2008, supported TARP, and supports the Patriot Act.

The first reason is face time. Cain was in the debate on Thursday night. Then he spoke on Friday afternoon at CPAC Florida. Then he was the featured speaker at the VIP Reagan Reception on Friday night. Then he stayed around for closing arguments on Saturday afternoon before the straw poll (only Cain, Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul did this).

The second reason is the mention of his cancer during the debate on Thursday night. People are a sucker for things like this. (Yes, I’m glad he recovered).

Would Cain be a better black president than Obama? Probably. He is a warmonger, but not any more so than Obama. Although it would be interesting to see Cain and Obama battle it out for the black vote, I would much rather see Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
To all you clueless Florida Republicans out there: Do you like being conned? Do you like being dupes? Do you like being economically gang-raped by ruling-class parasites? Do you like the idea of stealing from Social Security to pay for terroristic wars of aggression and banker bailouts?

If not, then stop watching FOX "News" for a moment and educate yourselves about what you're really voting for when you vote for Herman Cain.

---------------------------

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Herman_Cain:

Cain supported the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) bank bailouts as a way to save the economy, viewing it as an investment opportunity for the taxpayers. In a 2008 editorial, Cain wrote, "Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing. We could make a profit while solving a problem."[1] In May 2011, regarding his TARP support, Cain said "I don’t have any regrets . . . I studied the situation. I didn’t have trouble with the idea; I had trouble with its implementation, picking winners and losers."

[...]

Cain believes that there was no need for an audit of the Federal Reserve.

[...]

Cain has been supportive of a US presence in Afghanistan and of the Afghan War.

He [Cain] was in favor of the war in Iraq, and opposes any timetable for withdrawal, arguing it to be equivalent to surrender.

---------------------------

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSjMF1ouPH0 (Herman Cain would trade Liberty for Security)
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
If Cain held a press conference and openly called for ending our imperialist, terroristic, hornets' nest-stirring wars of aggression and repealing all post-9/11 police state expansion measures, I guarantee all of the warmongering, police state-worshipping neo-fascists posing as "conservatives" who voted for him in the straw poll would be waxing hysterical right now.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline morning_joe_sux

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 78
I registered for the first time R just to vote for Ron Paul and I live in FL.  I see TONS of Ron Paul support, but I also see the OBAMINATED DRONES as well - prolly about even if I'm being honest.

I really think OBAMA aka SOETORO aka WHOEVERTHEHELLHEIS will win in 2012 - no doubt in my mind.

I see the MEDIA setting up PERRY as the fallguy, the perfect dude to lose to him.  I seriously doubt, if I'm being as realistic as I can, that the elites have any reason to get rid of SOETORO.  He's a major liability to himself just by being who he is, which is crazy to think about.

anyways, I hope I'm wrong but I don't think there are as many patriots as Alex always thinks there are, at least not here.
Who is Laurie Klausutis?  Find out who Joe Scarborough murdered!
http://www.flyingsnail.com/Dahbud/firejoescarborough.html

Offline decemberfellow

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,974
Forget Perry now it is Hurricane Herman Cain.


Dennis Miller Endorses Herman Cain: ‘Can I Tell You How Jazzed I Am About This Cat?’

http://www.mediaite.com/online/dennis-miller-endorses-herman-cain-can-i-tell-you-how-jazzed-i-am-about-this-cat/

Mark12:
4And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
 5But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
Herman Cain Describes Ron Paul Supporters’ Concerns As “Stupid”
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 02:47:32 pm »
http://www.prisonplanet.com/herman-cain-describes-ron-paul-supporters-concerns-as-stupid.html

Herman Cain Describes Ron Paul Supporters’ Concerns As “Stupid”

Suggests Paul campaign is deliberately out to “nail” him

Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com
Sept 27, 2011



Businessman Herman Cain has made remarks somewhat unbecoming of a presidential candidate, declaring his annoyance at “stupid” questions continually put to him by Ron Paul supporters.

The former Godfather’s Pizza CEO, who is running for the GOP nomination on a broadly libertarian platform, seems to have a problem with Paulites’ concerns regarding the Federal Reserve.

“I get the same stupid question at almost every one of these events,” Cain writes in a forthcoming book “This is Herman Cain,” to be released in early October.

According to the Daily Caller, which has obtained an advance copy of the book, Cain claims that Paul’s supporters are “threatened by me” and are “trying to destroy me on the fact that I was once affiliated with” the Federal Reserve.

Cain even has his own conspiracy theory that Paul’s campaign is deliberately sending people out to Cain events to attempt to discredit him:

“I know it’s a deliberate strategy.” Cain writes, “How can a person randomly show up at a hundred events and ask the same stupid question to try to nail me on the Federal Reserve?”

Is Cain serious? Clearly he has no concept of the determination and reach of Ron Paul’s grassroots support base. Paulites are focused and unwavering, just as their chosen candidate has been for thirty plus years.

Ron Paul has warned his supporters for three decades and more about the dangerous of a fraudulent fractional reserve banking system in the hands of private central bankers, and no one can legitimately argue any longer that those concerns have not been justified. Why is it so hard for Cain to accept that every Ron Paul supporter would share the same concerns?

Paul’s supporters have argued that Cain is not serious about reigning in the power of the Federal Reserve over US monetary policy, pointing to the fact that he was chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1995 and 1996.

While Ron Paul has continually pushed to audit the Fed, Cain seemingly does not believe an audit is necessary:

“I have said: ‘I don’t think you’re going to find anything to audit on the Federal Reserve.’” Cain writes. “But they (Ron Paul supporters) want you to believe that Herman Cain doesn’t want the Federal Reserve to be audited.”

“It’s really becoming annoying more than anything else.” Cain states.

[Continued...]
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline life0repeats

  • Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 373
i'm originally from Florida (miami).  Went to college in NY State. And live the Metro DC area right now.  Also spent time abroad as a student. 

Stupidity isn't owned by one area of the country or world.  I was in NY when the people there were just so giddy about having the opportunity to vote for Hilary Clinton.  It was disgusting.  I had the pleasure of not shaking her hand when I went with a friend to where he heard she'd be exiting a speech.  Was about 8 people.  7 truly excited about seeing her and me.  I was surprised she didn't look as bad in person as she does on TV (at least at that time she didn't).  Usually find the opposite true.

As for Florida I know a lot of people who believe in 9/11 truth, believe Obama is a phony, know the system is set up for the house to win, but obviously the minority if guys like Rick Scott get elected. 

and in DC...so many conflicted idealist.  want to be green, but are so wasteful its almost funny.  want to be fiscally responsible since the economy is bad but still order catered breakfast where per bagel they are paying like $4/$5. 

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
Cain: Occupy Protestors Are ‘Anti-American’
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2011, 11:52:14 am »
"Herman Cain became a member of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1992 and served as its chairman from January 1995 to August 1996."


---------------------------------

http://www.prisonplanet.com/cain-occupy-protestors-are-anti-american.html

Cain: Occupy Protestors Are ‘Anti-American’

Neon Tommy
October 10, 2011

GOP presidential contender Herman Cain continued his attack of Occupy Wall Street protestors Sunday describing them as anti-American.

Amidst the growing Occupy movement, Cain last week offered his two-cents: “Don’t blame the big banks. If you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself.”  Taking full advantage of the situation, Cain then criticized the Obama administration saying the protests were planned to distract people from, “The failed policies of the Obama administration.”

On CBS’s Face the Nation Sunday, Cain continued his criticism saying, “to protest Wall Street and the bankers is basically saying that you’re anti-capitalism.” Cain says free-markets and capitalism is what made the U.S. as big as it is and should not be targeted for attack.

[Continued...]

---------------------------------

In view of Cain's status as a former high-level insider of -- and ongoing apologist for -- the Federal Reserve, isn't it ironic that so many "end the Fed" activists are parroting this same right-wing talking point (all because the establishment waved Michael Moore in their faces)?

Washington's Blog has it right:

---------------------------------

"The Occupy Wall Street protests are obviously targeting Wall Street, i.e. the giant banks.

"The Occupy the Fed protests – led by Alex Jones, the Oathkeepers and other conservatives – are targeting the Federal Reserve.

"While some are trying to weaken these two movements through a divide-and-conquer strategy, the truth is that they are two sides of the same coin.

[...]

"The Federal Reserve and the giant banks are part of a single malignant, symbiotic relationship. Conservatives and liberals should unite in breaking up both."


---------------------------------
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
Fed Insider Herman Cain Caught In Brazen Debate Lie
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 02:15:13 pm »
http://www.prisonplanet.com/fed-insider-cain-caught-in-brazen-debate-lie.html

Fed Insider Cain Caught In Brazen Debate Lie

Establishment favorite claims he never opposed audit of Fed
 
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, October 12, 2011
 
Establishment favorite and former Federal Reserve insider Herman Cain brazenly lied during last night’s Republican debate when he denied that he had opposed an audit of the Fed, a claim that was proven false within hours by Ron Paul’s campaign team.

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tUdkj80cA (Herman Cain Lies to Ron Paul's Face About the Federal Reserve at GOP Debate)

Pointing out that the majority of Americans want to see a full audit of the Federal Reserve, Congressman Ron Paul asked Cain if he stood by his position that it would be frivolous to audit the Fed on a regular basis, as well as his characterization of those who are calling for such measures as ignorant.

Cain responded by claiming he never dismissed Ron Paul or his supporters as “ignorant” for asking about the Federal Reserve, and that the error was down to Paul believing what he read on the Internet. Technically Cain is correct, because he didn’t call Ron Paul supporters “ignorant,” worse still, in his own book Cain dismissed them as “stupid” and ludicrously suggested that the Paul campaign was deliberately sending out supporters to harass Cain with questions about the Federal Reserve.

Cain brazenly lied in the next breath when he claimed, “I do not object to the Federal Reserve being audited, I simply said if someone wants to initiate that action go right ahead, it doesn’t bother me,” adding that he had been “misrepresented” and didn’t have a problem with the Fed being audited, before robotically repeating his “9,9,9″ tax hike agenda.

Within hours, the Paul campaign responded by pointing out precisely where Cain had expressed his opposition to auditing the Fed, with the aid of the very same Internet that Cain derided as an inaccurate source of information.

Unfortunately for the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO, the world wide web turned out to be very accurate in documenting Cain’s deception.

On December 29, 2010, Cain, former director and chairman at the Kansas City Federal Reserve, said the following.

“Some people say that we ought to audit the Fed. Here’s what I do know. The Federal Reserve already has so many internal audits it’s ridiculous. I don’t know why people think we’re gonna learn this great amount of information by auditing the Federal Reserve. I think a lot of people are calling for this audit of the Federal Reserve because they don’t know enough about it. There’s no hidden secrets going on in the Federal Reserve to my knowledge.”

Not only has Cain been exposed as a liar on prime time television, but the controversy also throws fresh spotlight on his ridiculous claim that the Fed has not acted in secrecy.

As we have since learned, most of the secret $16 trillion in Federal Reserve bailout funds between 2008 and 2010 went to foreign banks in places like Belgium, Japan and Libya.

“The biggest borrowers from the 97-year-old discount window as the program reached its crisis-era peak were foreign banks, accounting for at least 70 percent of the $110.7 billion borrowed during the week in October 2008 when use of the program surged to a record,” reported Bloomberg.

Before the Federal Reserve was legally forced to disclose the details of where the bailout money went, Chairman Ben Bernanke attempted to hide its destination by refusing to tell elected Congressmen like Alan Grayson and Ron Paul which financial institutions received bailout funds.

No “hidden secrets,” then Herman?

Cain’s total disregard for the truth and his transparent efforts to cover-up his sympathies for the Federal Reserve, the very source of America’s economic decline, by lying to the American people on national television, should torpedo any notion that Cain should even be considered as a Republican presidential candidate.

Just like Rick Perry before him, expect Cain’s campaign, backed by his “9,9,9″ gimmick, which would increase taxes for middle class Americans, to crash and burn as more spotlight is thrown on his Federal Reserve connections.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline TahoeBlue

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,231
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 02:45:56 pm »
The freakin thing is private.
We don't know the actual owners. We don't know their profits .

We the people --- right.

Quote
On December 29, 2010, Cain, former director and chairman at the Kansas City Federal Reserve, said the following.

“Some people say that we ought to audit the Fed. Here’s what I do know. The Federal Reserve already has so many internal audits it’s ridiculous. I don’t know why people think we’re gonna learn this great amount of information by auditing the Federal Reserve. I think a lot of people are calling for this audit of the Federal Reserve because they don’t know enough about it.
There’s no hidden secrets going on in the Federal Reserve to my knowledge.”

Offline TahoeBlue

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,231
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 03:25:40 pm »
In response to Herman the hermit admiring Greenspan fed performance...

***Derivatives as a method of counterfeiting and destruction of the currency  - Bankers Trust - Deutsche Bank



Alan Greenspan claims that the answer to solving social inequality is to make everyone poor! (except for those few elites right?) and then tries to suggest that all societies are some sort of sociopathic pecking order!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan
...
During his economic studies at New York University, Greenspan worked under Eugene Banks, a managing director at the Wall Street investment bank Brown Brothers Harriman, working in the firm's equity research department
...
Greenspan has also served as a corporate director for Aluminum Company of America (Alcoa); Automatic Data Processing; Capital Cities/ABC, Inc.; General Foods; J.P. Morgan & Co.; Morgan Guaranty Trust Company; Mobil Corporation; and the Pittston Company.[12][13]

He was a director of the Council on Foreign Relations foreign policy organization between 1982 and 1988.[14]

He also served as a member of the influential Washington-based financial advisory body, the Group of Thirty in 1984.
...
 In 1977, Greenspan obtained a Ph.D. degree in economics from New York University. His dissertation is not available from the university[7] since it was removed at Greenspan's request in 1987, when he became Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. However, a single copy has been found, and the 'introduction includes a discussion of soaring housing prices and their effect on consumer spending; it even anticipates a bursting housing bubble'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3mEe8TH7w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqx88MyUSck

GreenSpan The Elite's Tool

H1-B Visa issues
...
http://www.economicpopulist.org/?q=content/greenspan-says-flooding-us-labor-market-foreign-labor-will-solve-housing-crisis
Greenspan Says Flooding the US labor market with Foreign Labor will Solve the Housing Crisis

"The number of new households in the U.S. is increasing at a rate of about 800,000 a year, of which about a third are immigrants. Perhaps 150,000 of those are loosely classified as skilled. A double or tripling of this number would markedly accelerate the absorption of unsold housing inventory for sale — and hence help stabilize prices."

Here is a blog piece, with a video clip of Greenspan talking about repressing US workers wages:

Greenspan Recommends Wiping out the Middle Class:
http://blog.noslaves.com/alan-greenspan-recommends-wiping-out-the-middle-class/

Alan Greenspan claims that the answer to solving social inequality is to make everyone poor! (except for those few elites right?) and then tries to suggest that all societies are some sort of sociopathic pecking order!

http://bearcreekledger.com/2007/03/16/finally-they-admit-the-truth-on-h1b-visas/
By Bloomberg News | March 14, 2007

WASHINGTON — Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan said allowing more skilled immigrants to work in the United States would help keep the income gap from widening.

Inequality of incomes is the “critical area where capitalist systems are most vulnerable,” Greenspan said yesterday in Washington at a conference on maintaining the competitiveness of US capital markets convened by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. “You cannot have a system that we have unless the people who participate in it believe it is just.”

Allowing more skilled workers into the country would bring down the salaries of top earners in the United States, easing tensions over the mounting wage gap, Greenspan said.

“Our skilled wages are higher than anywhere in the world,” he said. “If we open up a significant window for skilled workers, that would suppress the skilled-wage level and end the concentration of income.”

http://www.bobfromaccounting.com/5_1404/greenspan.html

Washington, DC - Longtime Federal Reserve Chief Alan Greenspan has been named "The Sexiest Man Alive," during a short ceremony and certificate exchange with his wife during dinner Thursday

Greenspan's wife, NBC journalist Andrea Mitchell, whom he married in 1997, was proud to give her husband the award and says she almost gave it to Stone Phillips, but then changed her mind at the last minute.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/business/media/13mitchell.html
For Greenspan’s Wife, Covering the Financial Crisis Is on a Case-by-Case Basis
“To me it’s a pretty easy balancing act,” Mr. Capus said in an interview Sunday. “She knows where to draw the line.”  For the same reasons, the network decided that Ms. Mitchell would not take the lead in covering the recent Congressional hearings about the economy.

Sir Alan Greenspan no longer patient...He wants America to die already!

July 16, 2010 LONDON (CNNMoney.com) -- Former Federal Reserve chief Alan Greenspan believes Congress should let the tax cuts enacted by President George W. Bush expire for all Americans in order to address the widening deficit, according to a TV interview airing Friday.

Elimination of Mortgage Interest Deduction - That'll Help You Homeowners!
White House Continues Press For Elimination of Mortgage Interest Deduction
by Tom Royce on June 10, 2010


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100914/bs_nm/us_china_economy_researcher
Beware starting trade war, China economist tells U.S - Sep 14, 2010
...
A total of 93 U.S. lawmakers have signed a letter urging Democratic leaders in the House of Representatives to schedule a vote on a bill to get tough with China over its exchange rate.

The bill would let the U.S. Commerce Department slap countervailing and anti-dumping duties on "injurious imports from any country that persistently undervalues its currency.

Ding said Beijing could also make the point to Washington that the dollar and the U.S. economy would suffer if China were to sell down its vast holdings of U.S. Treasuries.

***Derivatives as a method of counterfeiting and destruction of the currency  

KEY EXECUTIVES FOR Paulson & Co. Inc.*Name Board Relationships Title Age
John Alfred Paulson   1 Relationships President, Portfolio Manager, and Director --

Paulson & Co. Inc. BOARD OF DIRECTORS*
Name Board Relationships Primary Company Age
John Alfred Paulson   1 Relationships Paulson & Co. Inc. --
Alan Greenspan Ph.D.  1 Relationships Deutsche Bank AG

Alan Greenspan Ph.D.     Senior Advisor, Deutsche Bank

Mr. Volcker served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Wolfensohn & Co. Inc.
He has been a Director of Deutsche Bank Trust Corporation since 1996. He serves as a Director of Bankers Trust Company, a subsidiary of Deutsche Bank Trust Corporation.
Obama names "Private" Economic Advisory team to be lead by Paul Volcker

Offline Dig

  • All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man.
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 63,099
    • Git Ureself Edumacated
http://www.infowars.com/why-herman-cain-won/

Why Herman Cain Won


Here are more elaborate reasons...

More information about the logistics of this 'poll'


Folks, calm down this is not a representative poll
http://www.dailypaul.com/179871/presidency-5-straw-poll-vote-saturday
Submitted by Neo-conDeathmail on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 18:14.

Folks, calm down this is the silliest poll ever. It was not open to the general public.

To vote in the Florida straw poll you have to be a delegate.

To be a delegate you have to:

1. register six months ago. [That I knew]

2. You must then be chosen by a lottery. [wait...what? who is in control of the lottery? Neocon Nazi Rick Scott who stole the election in 2008?]

3. If chosen Then you pay $175 dollars and you are a delegate and then you can vote. [$175? I thought it was like $30! This looks like a serious 'good 'ol boys' club and hardly a true representation of an entire state. I bet they play this one up more than the California one]

The fact that Cain won shows how unrepresentative this poll is of anything. The only way this poll would have gone bad for us is if Perry or Romeny won, because then the media would fuss over it and give it creditability.

Guys, I had no clue the hoops you had to go through on this poll, it looks like this is a staged event where delegates are controlled from the beginning. A lottery 6 months in advance and you pay $175 without even knowing the candidates in advance? Looks like they are probably IBM Human Sensors that get a blasted text message at the end telling the political hacks who to vote for. And then they all do as they are ordered to.

This is interesting...

Herman Cain gets "Isrealized" then "wins" straw poll
http://www.dailypaul.com/180164/herman-cain-gets-isrealized-then-wins-straw-poll
Submitted by rcon1 on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 20:39

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/herman-cain-admits-to-hannity-he-didnt-know-what-right-of-return-meant/

After his Israeli slip up on the above Hannity show, Cain takes a "get right" trip over to Israel for some edumacating. Afterwords he wins the straw poll out from nowhere.



Herman Cain Admits To Hannity He Didn’t Know What ‘Right Of Return’ Meant

by Frances Martel | 10:20 pm, May 23rd, 2011

Herman Cain may have just slyly avoided his own “what newspapers do you read?” moment. After getting caught flat-footed on Fox News Sunday over his position on the Palestinian right of return, Cain returned to the network Monday and got a second chance to answer the question. Cain made no excuses: “I didn’t understand the right of return,” he told Sean Hannity, though sticking by his original answer.

After answering a warm-up question on why he believes he would be the best candidate for the job (“my approach to problem solving will work in government,” he argued), the Republican presidential hopeful then had to field one more question on the Palestinian right of return: does he understand it? Many people seemed to think he didn’t. Cain’s response? “They are exactly right:”


Chris [Wallace] caught me off-guard. I didn’t understand the right of return. That came out of left field, out of all the questions I anticipated him asking me, I didn’t even conceive of him asking me about the right of return. I now know what that is. The thing that you’re going to learn about Herman Cain, if he doesn’t know something, he’s not going to try and fake it or give an answer that he doesn’t know what hes talking about. Now here’s the thing about that right of return that I’ve learned since Sunday. It wasn’t that they were kicked out of Israel by the Jews, no! Their Arab leaders asked them to leave because they thought they were going to annihilate what was left, and then they’re going to go back. So yes, I still stick by my answer.

A gutsy move if there ever was one, considering that, now that he had read up on the matter, he could have easily said and demonstrated he knew what he was talking about. The little bit of third-person Bob Dole in there probably doesn’t do any ill in endearing him to potential voters, either, especially the sort that were already enamored by him in the first presidential debate.

2 weeks ago...


Glenn Beck and Herman Cain share the stage in Israel
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/israel-and-palestine/110825/glenn-beck-and-herman-cain-share-the-s
Noga TarnopolskyAugust 25, 2011 08:42

JERUSALEM — House speaker John Boehner banned members of congress from attending Glenn Beck’s rally-cum-religious revival next to the Wailing Wall, in Jerusalem’s Old City, but Republican presidential candidates can do as they wish. So if anyone was wondering what happened to Hermann Cain after his disappointing showing at the Ames straw poll, one had only to look toward the Holy City, where he was enjoying center stage with Glenn Beck at the final of three events set in Israel. Under the aegis of “Courage to Stand,” Beck addressed a fairly sparse crowd of 2,000. Also on stage was Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat and cantorial music superstar Dudu Fisher, who sang the Fiddler on The Roof’s version of a Sabbath psalm. Outside the venue, in an archeological garden located on the spot where King David, it is claimed, established the city of Jerusalem over 3,000 years ago, Beck intoned, “The world is expecting movement, the world is expecting someone to lead!” A hodgepodge of opponents weakly demanded that Beck go home. Leftists condemned his anti-Islamic views whereas religious Jews decried the un-Jewish character of his extravaganza being held so close to the Temple Mount. Former left-wing member of Parliament Yossi Sarid published an Op-Ed entitled, “Glenn Beck, Don’t Come Back.” Beck, who appears to be drawing smaller crowds since leaving Fox News, ignored his detractors. “He’s a guy who shares the beliefs of Christian Zionists throughout America,” said Zev Chafets, author of “A Match Made in Heaven: American Jews, Christian


4 days ago...an op ed published by Murdoch's FOXNEWS (who knew the results early)...

I CANNOT EVEN BELIEVE WHAT HE WROTE!



If You Mess With Israel, You're Messing With the USA
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/09/20/herman-cain-if-mess-with-israel-youre-messing-with-usa/
By Herman Cain
Published September 20, 2011 | FoxNews.com AP

As the United Nations takes up a vote on a unilateral Palestinian declaration of statehood this week, Americans need to understand what a Pandora’s box this opens – and how it’s a threat to both American and Israeli security.

First, U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state simply throws away years of peace talks with Israel and sets both peoples on a collision course for violent conflict. We’ve all seen the results of intifadahs, loosely translated as “uprisings” in the early 1990s and early 2000s. When Palestinian hard liners didn’t get their way through the Oslo peace process – waves of suicide bombers blew up buses, cafes, markets and shops, tearing apart two societies. Like any sovereign state, Israel has a right to defend itself. It vigorously did so, taking out family homes of suicide bombers and tightening a variety of restrictions in the West Bank and Gaza. In the process Palestinians who truly want peace have had to face the consequences along with those who are bent on destroying Israel.

Second, such a move by the U.N. would only embolden radicals and add internal legitimacy to their attacks on Israel. U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state would in all probability lead to a third Intifadah, meaning the deaths of thousands and cycle of violence playing itself out on television sets and newspapers every day throughout the world. Let’s recall that one of Usama Bin Laden’s main beefs with America has been our support for Israel – Al Qaeda propagandists have relied upon images of Palestinian casualties as a chief recruiting tool in their war against us.

And as we saw on September 11, Islamic radicals don’t just target Israel – they have a bulls-eye painted on America’s back as well. Speaking of September 11, President Obama ought to remember who our friends are. I remember watching news reports of the Twin Towers falling, a smoldering Pentagon, and the remains of United Flight 93 in a Shanksville, Pennsylvania field – and feeling even more outrage witnessing TV coverage of Palestinians dancing in the streets as we were attacked.

As president, my top foreign policy priority would be to stand united with Israel. I will not allow the Arab Spring to be the fall of Israel. A nation that shares deep spiritual bonds, our love of democracy, freedom and personal liberty, Israel has been one of our strongest allies for decades – at least until President Obama took office. On a visit to Israel, last month, I met with the country's deputy prime minister about the many security challenges threatening the country’s existence – from Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons – to the prospect of U.N. support for a Palestinian state. His somber message was this, “Israel will defend itself.”

The Obama administration’s insistence that Israel return to pre-1967 borders, which are militarily indefensible – shows its enemies that the United States may not stand with Israel in times of crisis. The lack of clarity towards Israel shown by this administration demonstrates weakness and only invites attack, which makes the situation more volatile. And when Iran’s leaders say that Israel should be wiped off the map, we ought to take them at their word. Hitler said things like that about Poland when he came to power – and guess what -- he wasn’t bluffing. Finally let’s remember how the U.N. has singled out Israel for punishment in their new world order, so its support for Palestinian statehood is just the latest blow. Resolutions condemning Israel have become pro forma, notably with 22 coming in the 61st General Assembly (2006-07), during a time in which none were passed against the genocide in Sudan's Darfur.

My message for the U.N., Iran, Palestinians and anyone else is this: “If you mess with Israel, you’re messing with the U.S.A.”

And I’ll add, growing up in Georgia during the civil rights movement and graduating from Morehouse College, following in the footsteps of our most famous alum – Dr. Martin Luther King, the Palestinians could stand to learn a lot more from Reverend King than Malcolm X. It’s the radical element among Palestinians that is keeping peace out of reach. If extremists lost internal legitimacy and their people took the path of non-violence -- both societies would be able to co-exist. They could start by not electing Hamas -- a terrorist organization, to power in Gaza as they did in 2006. By not sending their sons and daughters out to blow themselves up in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, taking with them as many innocent Israeli civilians as they can. I believe long term peace is achievable between Israelis and Palestinians – we just need to identify the right leaders to get it done And from the American perspective, by turning away from Israel when the going gets tough, President Obama is not only failing to get the job done, he is doing more harm than good. So much for hope, it’s time for a change in Washington.
----------
Mr. Cain, a Republican is running for president of the U.S. He is the former Chairman and CEO of Godfather’s Pizza and past President and CEO of the National Restaurant Association. For more infomation visit: www.hermancain.com.

http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/what-herman-cains-straw-poll-victory-means/

What Herman Cain’s Straw Poll Victory Means

Herman Cain won the Florida straw poll this weekend with 37% of the vote.  Cain’s Facebook page, which I checked out following the news of his victory, is full of people who consider him a breath of fresh air.  Most of them say they can’t stand Perry or Romney, but that Cain tells it like it is.

Overlooked, as usual, is that Cain himself doesn’t feel that way about Romney, whom he endorsed in 2008.  D’oh.

Cain is more or less the same as the rest of the pack in terms of economic policy; they all seem to think tax reform is the solution to the aftermath of the financial crisis.  Yes, they talk about regulation, too.  But again, their solutions are from 1983.  No mention of the source of the financial crisis, or why we keep having these financial bubbles and business cycles.  (Here’s a hint.)  No, it’s just a matter of changing our tax policy.

I’m not saying Cain supporters are stupid or dense.  I am saying they are not looking at their man honestly, or perhaps do not know everything they should about him.  And I don’t expect all Americans to understand what causes the business cycle.  But for heaven’s sake, they should at least look into it (see the business cycle section).  It’s kind of important.

Cain’s Florida straw poll victory means that 37% of participants believe the following:

1) Supporting TARP is A-OK.
2) Endorsing Mitt Romney is A-OK.
3) Claiming as late as 2006 that there was no housing bubble, that the economy was fine, that skeptics were just people who hated George W. Bush, and being totally taken by surprise by the Panic of 2008, is A-OK, and this is just the person we need in charge.

For supporting evidence for these and other problems with Cain, click here.
http://www.tomwoods.com/cain/

For the five-minute case against Cain, see below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl_RXM8Kt6g

Oddities...

Presidential 5 Straw Poll = Building 7



Submitted by Charlie's Angel on Sat, 09/24/2011 - 18:10.

I still think it is SO odd that Fox news announced the results on TV before they were even announced at the Straw Poll by the governor!

http://www.dailypaul.com/179871/presidency-5-straw-poll-vote-saturday

Check this out...

Qualified and checked-in voters: 4,137

Ballots cast: 2,657


Cain              986            37.11%
Perry            410             15.43%
Romney        372             14.00%
Santorum      289             10.88%
Paul              276             10.39%
Newt            224               8.43%
Huntsman       60               2.26%
Bachmann       40               1.51%

1,480 missing votes?

That waited six months, got a lottery win, and thenpaid $175 and then registered and showed up? and they did not vote?

Who is Herman Cain?
Meet the Chairman of the Federal Reserve: Herman Cain
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/08/herman-cain-exposed-no-need-to-audit-the-federal-reserve/
TNSONSOFLIBERTY May 8th, 2011

Herman Cain, former Chairman and Member of the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, flippantly denies the need to Audit the Federal Reserve while hosting the Neil Boortz Show on 12/29/2010
http://www.tennesseesonsofliberty.com/2011/01/no-need-to-audit-federal-resere.html

Listen to the full 4 min clip:
http://www.4shared.com/audio/GbJQ_05i/HermanCain-NoNeedToAuditTheFed.html

Unbelievable, Herman Cain continues to defend and shill for the Federal Reserve in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caeNXivEGEg

Learn more about the Federal Reserve:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZM58dulPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGlmidTTIKg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb1n1X0Oqdw&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8hdgVA75hk&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnekzRuu8wo&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fGGeNP98q0

“A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely. His sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.”
Cicero, speech to the Roman Senate
All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
Nein nein nein to the 9-9-9 tax plan
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2011, 11:04:31 am »
http://www.progress.org/2011/fold739.htm

Nein nein nein to the 9-9-9 tax plan

by Fred E. Foldvary
The Progress Report
17 October 2011

The tax plan being promoted by one of the presidential candidates, Herman Cain, seeks to impose a federal personal and corporate tax rate of 9 percent and a national sales tax of 9 percent. The word for "no" in German is "nein." Since the 9-9-9 plan would be neither equitable nor efficient, we can respond in German, "nein, nein, nein!"

The first "nein" is on the 9% business flat-rate income tax. This would impose a tax on gross income minus purchases from US firms, investment in capital goods, and exports. That would be much better for enterprise than the current top income tax rate of 35%. However, recognizing that any taxes on production has an excess burden, the best tax rate of all would be a flat zero.

The second "nein" is on a personal income tax rate of 9% on gross income minus charitable donations. The plan complicates this with special tax rates in "empowerment zones." Such enterprise zones often just shift business away from other areas, and then the land rent in the zone goes up to soak up the locational advantage, so the ultimate gainers are the landowners, especially those who are politically well connected and are able to buy up land in the zones prior to being established.

The poorest workers pay little or no income tax today, or even get cash under the "earned income tax credit". The flat-rate 9% tax would make the poor pay higher taxes. Again, a 9% tax is better for most taxpayers than the current tax rates that go up to 35%, and a flat tax that eliminates real estate deductions and exemptions is also better, but best of all would be a flat wage and profits tax of zero percent.

The worst part of the 9-9-9 plan is the nine percent national sales tax. While to some extent the effect of the sales tax would be offset by the reduction of income taxes, still, sales taxes get added to the cost of production to increase the price of goods. For companies that were making little profit, they would have paid little income tax, so the tax could end up raising their prices by more than the current tax system. If they employ low-wage labor, those workers would have been paying little or no income tax, and would now have to pay the higher nine-percent income tax, which would further increase costs to those enterprises. The 9-9-9 plan would dramatically increase income inequality at a time when inequality has already been rising rapidly.

The 9-9-9 plan is supposed to be revenue-neutral, but analysts have found that it would generate less revenue than the current system, so the 9-9-9 numbers would probably be raised to 10-10-10 or higher. Once a national sales tax or value added tax is in place, the tax rates could be raised, as they have been in Europe.

It has been pointed out that the tax plan being promoted by Herman Cain is the same as the tax structure in the 2003 video game "SimCity 4". This video game simulates a city, and the default tax rate is 9-9-9. According to some analysts, in this simulation game, the nine-percent tax rates were not enough to finance the desired public goods.

The favoring of one tax plan implies the rejection of the other systems. The advocacy of a national sales tax implies the rejection of alternatives such as a national land-value tax. So we can ask why a candidate is rejecting a tax on land value in favor of a tax on produced goods.

Herman Cain is correct in saying that the natural state of the economy is prosperity, and that freedom promotes prosperity. He is right in saying that government must get out of the way of production. He is right in saying that production drives the economy. But he does not go to the logical conclusion of the free-market argument: marginal tax rates of zero. To best promote employment, investment, and growth, place no tax on additional production, trade, or consumption.

A land-value tax would best let the economy rise to its natural rate of prosperity. LVT would be levied on the economic rent of all land. Taxing land value is equivalent to taxing its economic rent, also referred to as ground rent or geo-rent. LVT would be based on the most productive use of a plot of land, regardless of current use, and regardless of current rental payments. Thus if a plot of land were not being used as productively as possible, the tax would push landowners to make the best possible use of their lands, or else pay the same as those who do.

LVT would promote equity and greater equality of income and wealth, because it would equalize the benefits from land, and equalize the gains from economic progress as captured by higher rent.

The prices of goods, including wages and interest rates, provide information about their scarcity relative to the desire for those items. Taxes both on production and on goods twist, distort, and skew these numbers, so that the economy is operating on false signals. LVT does not change the market rent, and rather than acting as a tax, it acts to remove a subsidy. Land value gets subsidized as the public goods provided by government, but not paid for by landowners, pumps up rent and land value. If this rent is not collected for public revenue, then it is a gigantic subsidy to land ownership. Thus taxes on goods and on income from production and not on land value end up subsidizing land value and shifting wealth from the poor to the rich.

Thus if the 9-9-9 plan increases wealth, the gains would go to the rich at further expense to the poor. The worst part of the plan is its continuation of the massive subsidy to land value, and even if the plan generates more growth, the benefit will ultimately go to higher rent and land value, generating an even greater real estate boom to be followed by another big crash.

So let's say in German: Nein! Nein! Nein! Let's also say Zero, Zero, Zero! Zero tax on wages, zero tax on goods, zero subsidy to land value. The tax emperor appears to be dressed to the nines, but like in the story of the naked emperor, the cloth is imaginary.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline Sasha

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,635
    • Sasha
Re: Nein nein nein to the 9-9-9 tax plan
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2011, 11:29:41 am »
That article title's spot on! 


___________________
http://www.progress.org/2011/fold739.htm

Nein nein nein to the 9-9-9 tax plan

by Fred E. Foldvary
The Progress Report
17 October 2011

The tax plan being promoted by one of the presidential candidates, Herman Cain, seeks to impose a federal personal and corporate tax rate of 9 percent and a national sales tax of 9 percent. The word for "no" in German is "nein." Since the 9-9-9 plan would be neither equitable nor efficient, we can respond in German, "nein, nein, nein!"

The first "nein" is on the 9% business flat-rate income tax. This would impose a tax on gross income minus purchases from US firms, investment in capital goods, and exports. That would be much better for enterprise than the current top income tax rate of 35%. However, recognizing that any taxes on production has an excess burden, the best tax rate of all would be a flat zero.

The second "nein" is on a personal income tax rate of 9% on gross income minus charitable donations. The plan complicates this with special tax rates in "empowerment zones." Such enterprise zones often just shift business away from other areas, and then the land rent in the zone goes up to soak up the locational advantage, so the ultimate gainers are the landowners, especially those who are politically well connected and are able to buy up land in the zones prior to being established.

The poorest workers pay little or no income tax today, or even get cash under the "earned income tax credit". The flat-rate 9% tax would make the poor pay higher taxes. Again, a 9% tax is better for most taxpayers than the current tax rates that go up to 35%, and a flat tax that eliminates real estate deductions and exemptions is also better, but best of all would be a flat wage and profits tax of zero percent.

The worst part of the 9-9-9 plan is the nine percent national sales tax. While to some extent the effect of the sales tax would be offset by the reduction of income taxes, still, sales taxes get added to the cost of production to increase the price of goods. For companies that were making little profit, they would have paid little income tax, so the tax could end up raising their prices by more than the current tax system. If they employ low-wage labor, those workers would have been paying little or no income tax, and would now have to pay the higher nine-percent income tax, which would further increase costs to those enterprises. The 9-9-9 plan would dramatically increase income inequality at a time when inequality has already been rising rapidly.

The 9-9-9 plan is supposed to be revenue-neutral, but analysts have found that it would generate less revenue than the current system, so the 9-9-9 numbers would probably be raised to 10-10-10 or higher. Once a national sales tax or value added tax is in place, the tax rates could be raised, as they have been in Europe.

It has been pointed out that the tax plan being promoted by Herman Cain is the same as the tax structure in the 2003 video game "SimCity 4". This video game simulates a city, and the default tax rate is 9-9-9. According to some analysts, in this simulation game, the nine-percent tax rates were not enough to finance the desired public goods.

The favoring of one tax plan implies the rejection of the other systems. The advocacy of a national sales tax implies the rejection of alternatives such as a national land-value tax. So we can ask why a candidate is rejecting a tax on land value in favor of a tax on produced goods.

Herman Cain is correct in saying that the natural state of the economy is prosperity, and that freedom promotes prosperity. He is right in saying that government must get out of the way of production. He is right in saying that production drives the economy. But he does not go to the logical conclusion of the free-market argument: marginal tax rates of zero. To best promote employment, investment, and growth, place no tax on additional production, trade, or consumption.

A land-value tax would best let the economy rise to its natural rate of prosperity. LVT would be levied on the economic rent of all land. Taxing land value is equivalent to taxing its economic rent, also referred to as ground rent or geo-rent. LVT would be based on the most productive use of a plot of land, regardless of current use, and regardless of current rental payments. Thus if a plot of land were not being used as productively as possible, the tax would push landowners to make the best possible use of their lands, or else pay the same as those who do.

LVT would promote equity and greater equality of income and wealth, because it would equalize the benefits from land, and equalize the gains from economic progress as captured by higher rent.

The prices of goods, including wages and interest rates, provide information about their scarcity relative to the desire for those items. Taxes both on production and on goods twist, distort, and skew these numbers, so that the economy is operating on false signals. LVT does not change the market rent, and rather than acting as a tax, it acts to remove a subsidy. Land value gets subsidized as the public goods provided by government, but not paid for by landowners, pumps up rent and land value. If this rent is not collected for public revenue, then it is a gigantic subsidy to land ownership. Thus taxes on goods and on income from production and not on land value end up subsidizing land value and shifting wealth from the poor to the rich.

Thus if the 9-9-9 plan increases wealth, the gains would go to the rich at further expense to the poor. The worst part of the plan is its continuation of the massive subsidy to land value, and even if the plan generates more growth, the benefit will ultimately go to higher rent and land value, generating an even greater real estate boom to be followed by another big crash.

So let's say in German: Nein! Nein! Nein! Let's also say Zero, Zero, Zero! Zero tax on wages, zero tax on goods, zero subsidy to land value. The tax emperor appears to be dressed to the nines, but like in the story of the naked emperor, the cloth is imaginary.
Morality is contraband in war.
- Mahatma Gandhi

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
Herman Cain: Entering Into A Shooting War With Iran “Perfectly Alright”
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2011, 02:26:44 pm »
http://www.prisonplanet.com/herman-cain-entering-into-a-shooting-war-with-iran-perfectly-alright.html

Herman Cain: Entering Into A Shooting War With Iran “Perfectly Alright”

Former pizza magnate also unaware China has nukes
 
Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com
November 2, 2011




Herman Cain’s foreign policy objectives were on show once again last night as the GOP candidate made some bizarre statements that should have even the most ardent Republican hawks worried.
 
During a lengthy interview with Bill O’Reilly on Fox News, Cain suggested that he wouldn’t see it as a problem to enter into full on military confrontation with Iran.
 
When O’Reilly asked “What is the most important foreign policy problem the United States has to deal with today?” Cain attempted to sidestep the issue by giving a generic answer and simply replying “Lack of clarity”.
 
“No, specifically.” O’Reilly countered, “What area of the world concerns you the most?”
 
“The Middle East, obviously….” Cain answered, somewhat reticently.
 
“At the time I become president I will have to evaluate the situation in Iraq, and Iran, and everyone of these countries.” he added.
 
After failing to convince O’Reilly with more of the same rhetoric about energy independence and pleading “work with me here Bill, work with me,” Cain conceded that in order to deal with Iran he would “maximise the use of our Ballistic missile Defence capabilities.”
 
” I Would double the use of ballistic missile capable ships,” Cain explained, adding “Iran understands only two things, economic pressure and military might.”
 
“So you’re going to put warships in the Gulf, because they’ll attack them, you know.” O’Reilly hamfistedly countered.
 
“That would be perfectly alright, because I believe that we have superior capability.” Cain replied.
 
The interview then culminated in the following mind blowing exchange:

    O’Reilly: “But then we’d be in a shooting war with Iran. Do you really want that?”
     
    Cain: “I don’t want that, Bill. But if they fire first we have to defend ourselves.”
     
    O’Reilly: “But isn’t that a provocation if you put warships off their coast?”
     
    Cain: “No. They’ve already announced that they are going to put their ships off our coast in international waters.”

And boom, before you can say ‘hold the anchovies’, the U.S. is at war with Iran under a Cain presidency!
 
Watch the interview below:

[Continued...]
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline TahoeBlue

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,231
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 03:03:57 pm »
They're Raisin Cain:


Jordan

  • Guest
Herman Cain Is Worried China Is Developing A Nuclear Bomb, They've Had Since 64
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2011, 07:27:22 pm »
Herman Cain Is Worried China Is Developing A Nuclear Bomb, That They've Had Since 1964.


Tuesday night he is worried China is trying to develop a nuclear bomb. China has had a nuclear bomb — in fact, an entire functioning nuclear program — for 47 years, since 1964. Once again Cain has made it perfectly clear he has never had any real intention of running for president as a serious candidate, and that he’d rather just stay on his book tour.

And, ludicrously, veteran journalist Judy Woodruff, who has covered Washington almost non-​stop since 1977, let it pass. No follow-​up, no, “Mr. Cain, you do know that China has had a nuclear program since the mid-1960’s.” Nothing.

Monday, once word of the sexual harassment allegations against Herman Cain broke, Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank noted,

    And so Cain did what he always does: He turned a devastating situation to his advantage. “By the way, folks, yes, I am an unconventional candidate,” he told the overflowing crowd. “And, yes, I do have a sense of humor. And some people have a problem with that. But … Herman is going to stay Herman.”

    So the women who filed the complaints didn’t get his sense of humor? And that’s the end of it?

    It just may be. This sort of scandal would end the career of many a politician. But the usual rules don’t apply to Herman Cain. He survives gaffes and scandal the way he beat colon cancer – and whatever doesn’t kill him makes him stronger.

    He says he would negotiate a swap of terrorists at Gitmo – then claims he misunderstood the question. He claimsabortion should be an individual choice – then again says he misunderstood. He proposes an electrified border fence that could kill immigrants from Mexico – then says people didn’t get the joke.

    Evidence that he has said something dumb, or offensive, only confirms to his supporters that he is not another polished pol like Barack Obama or Mitt Romney. And so Cain doesn’t need to know what a neocon is, he can weather campaign-​funding irregularities, he can have his campaign manager blow cigarette smoke in a campaign ad, he can skip the early primary states in favor of a book tour of the south, and he can sing about pizza to a John Lennon tune. If Herman Cain were found to be a serial killer, his supporters would take this, too, as reassuring evidence that he is not just another career politician.

He is not just another career politician. A career politician would know that China has had a nuclear bomb — in fact, an entire functioning nuclear program — for 47 years, since 1964.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/cain-is-worried-china-developing-nuclear-bomb-theyve-had-since-1964/politics/2011/11/02/29524

Offline Constitutionary

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,243
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2011, 07:58:46 pm »
http://www.prisonplanet.com/herman-cain-wins-florida-straw-poll-in-stunning-victory-rick-perry-in-deep-trouble.html

Herman Cain wins Florida straw poll in stunning victory; Rick Perry in deep trouble

ARC CAPUTO, ALEX LEARY AND MICHAEL C. BENDER
Miami Herald
Sept 25, 2011

[...]

Perry’s supporters tried to spin the results as a “devastating” defeat for Romney because he couldn’t overtake Perry.

But other delegates said they’re both losers.

“This seriously undermines the electability of Perry and Romney,” said Ralph Camp, 64, of Marianna, who voted for Cain.

Ana Navarro, of Miami-Dade and an advisor to Jon Huntsman, said Perry is more show than substance.

“Rick Perry is a Texas stud, a real macho-man who looks great in cowboy hat and boots and was supposed to come galloping on his stallion to rescue Republicans and lead us to the promise land,” said Navarro, an advisor to Huntsman’s campaign. “But it’s become increasingly clear he can’t perform. He has electile dysfunction.”

Pinellas County delegate Rachelle Warmouth said Perry’s loss wouldn’t end his campaign. But the debate performance and the effect it’s having on party loyalists are a call to step up his game.

“He’ll have to have a strong recovery,” she said. “He needs to focus on his message.”

Full article here

Floridian Republicans are some of the politically stupid people I know.  Most of them have no idea about the New World Order, Bilderberg or are even aware of the ENDGAME movie.

All Floridian Republicans know is vote Republican, support the Navy, Go Jags, Go Gators, and don't bother me with any critical thinking that may hurt my feelings.    >:(

Jordan

  • Guest
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 10:13:37 am »
Cain clashes with reporters asking about sex harassment
Trying to stay on message at an event Wednesday, Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain got testy with reporters asking him about sexual harassment charges against him during his tenure at the National Restaurant Association. (/CBS News)
** Great Video of Cain Losing it**

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cain-clashes-with-reporters-asking-about-sex-harassment/2011/11/02/gIQAhyxvfM_video.html

Offline giark65

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 169
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 12:56:05 pm »
I'm serious...If this isn't an assault on our intelligence, I don't know what is.....I'm just shocked people even consider Cain is real.   Check his wife out.  So much dirt that even I get dirty without digging much....going to wash my fingers from this filth.

Offline TahoeBlue

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,231
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2011, 02:37:52 pm »
http://kansascityfed.org/publicat/newsroom/2011pdf/press.release.05.26.11.pdf

May 26, 2011
Statement from Thomas M. Hoenig, president and chief executive officer:
“From 1992 to 1996, Herman served as a director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in the capacities of deputy chairman and then chairman of the Board. Fed directors are dedicated representatives of Main Street business, community development, organized labor and financial services sectors who agree to give their time to help the Federal Reserve understand the economy and to oversee our operations. It was my privilege to work with Herman very closely during his five years on the Kansas City board.
...
Herman Cain - Terms of Service
Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
1-1-89 to 12-31-91 Chairman, Omaha Branch board
1-1-92 to 12-31-94 Deputy Chairman, Head office board
1-1-95 to 8-19-96 Chairman, Head office board

Offline giark65

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 169
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2011, 04:41:10 pm »
Dig on his wife Tahoe, and University days in Georgia.

Jordan

  • Guest
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2011, 12:40:24 am »
Herman Cain accuser stands by 1999 harassment claims, won’t reveal details; National Restaurant Association confirms complaint

A woman who accused Herman Cain of sexual harassment in 1999 said Friday through her attorney that she stands by her claims but will not be speaking further on the matter, citing a desire to avoid reliving the case.

"She has decided not to relive the specifics of the incident," attorney Joel Bennett said at a press conference in Washington, D.C. on behalf of his client saying it would be "extremely painful" for her to do so. He confirmed no details about exactly what was alleged.

"We're not going to get more specific about what was physical, what was verbal. It qualified as sexual harassment in our opinion."

Bennett said the presidential candidate knows "exactly" the incidents in question. "If he chooses to not remember or not acknowledge those, that's his issue."

Bennett said he would not disclose the amount of the monetary settlement his client was awarded by the National Restaurant Association. He also noted that Cain--who was then president of the NRA--did not sign settlement documents. Cain has stated he has no knowledge of a settlement involving this accuser--or with any other women who had lodged sexual harassment allegations against him.

Bennett said his client wished for her attorney to address the complaints after Cain and his staff labeled them "baseless." Bennett also stressed that his client wishes to remain anonymous.

Politico reported Sunday that at least two women made complaints to the NRA of sexual harassment by Cain. Bennett said "the fact that there are multiple complaints tells me more likely than not that there was some sexual harassment activity by this man at that time . . . . The fact that there was more than one complaint is meaningful."

The NRA confirmed in a statement Friday that it carried out an internal investigation of this accuser's harassment claim. The organization also confirmed that Cain denied wrongdoing, and that it reached an agreement with the woman without the direct involvement of Cain. The NRA did not reveal the results of its internal investigation.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/herman-cain-accuser-stands-1999-harassment-claims-won-202559934.html

Jordan

  • Guest
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2011, 10:37:20 am »
A fourth woman is now accusing GOP hopeful Herman Cain of sexual harassment

WASHINGTON (AP) -- High-profile discrimination attorney Gloria Allred says another woman has come forward accusing Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain of sexual harassment.

Allred and the woman, whom she did not identify, are planning a news conference in New York later Monday.

The woman would be at least the fourth to accuse Cain, a former businessman, of harassment.

Politico reported earlier that two women filed complaints and one made a similar allegation to The Associated Press but took no further action. The women have said that Cain exhibited inappropriate behavior toward them during their time at the National Restaurant Association in the late 1990s. Cain has denied the allegations, and he said Saturday night he would answer no more questions on the subject.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAIN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
Herman Cain Courts War Criminal Globalist Henry Kissinger
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2011, 03:07:59 pm »
http://www.prisonplanet.com/herman-cain-courts-war-criminal-globalist-henry-kissinger.html

Herman Cain Courts War Criminal Globalist Henry Kissinger

Kurt Nimmo
PrisonPlanet.com
November 17, 2011

Establishment Republican presidential contender Herman Cain asked Rockefeller globalist Henry Kissinger to join his administration, but the aging former Secretary of State turned down the former Kansas City Federal Reserve director.

“Dr. Kissinger turned down my offer to be secretary of state,” Cain told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel in an interview. “He said he’s perfectly happy doing what he’s doing.”

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5PRQNybAKQ (Herman Cain Has Breakfast With Henry Kissinger)

Sensing that many voters might not like the idea of Kissinger serving in a Cain administration, his spokesman later said Cain didn’t actually ask Kissinger, reports Yahoo News. J.D. Gordon said his boss was sleep deprived during the interview with the Milwaukee newspaper.

Despite the flip-flop and lame excuse, Cain and Kissinger have met frequently in the past to talk foreign policy. Cain has listed Kissinger is one of his key foreign policy influences.

Demonstrating that a Cain administration would be almost identical to a Bush administration, the former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza said he also admires the neocon John Bolton. In addition, he has his eye on South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint and Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan.

[Continued...]
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline egypt

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,504
  • Love: A Wish to bestow the fullness of Joyous Life
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2011, 03:16:21 pm »
Since Herman Cain doesn't citizen's arrest Kissenger, he must approve all all Kissenger's criminal activity that includes War Crimes.  Kissenger has warrants out for his arrest in many countries for War Crimes.  Tells me that Cain is getting instruction and information for his own future criminal activities... ?

Love, e

Offline Satyagraha

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,149
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2011, 04:20:21 pm »
http://kansascityfed.org/publicat/newsroom/2011pdf/press.release.05.26.11.pdf

May 26, 2011
Statement from Thomas M. Hoenig, president and chief executive officer:
“From 1992 to 1996, Herman served as a director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in the capacities of deputy chairman and then chairman of the Board. Fed directors are dedicated representatives of Main Street business, community development, organized labor and financial services sectors who agree to give their time to help the Federal Reserve understand the economy and to oversee our operations. It was my privilege to work with Herman very closely during his five years on the Kansas City board.
...
Herman Cain - Terms of Service
Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
1-1-89 to 12-31-91 Chairman, Omaha Branch board
1-1-92 to 12-31-94 Deputy Chairman, Head office board
1-1-95 to 8-19-96 Chairman, Head office board


Don't you love the fact that the mainstream press frequently cites his job as CEO of Godfather's pizza, while FAILING to mention his senior-level positions at the Federal Reserve Bank? Deceit by omission.
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."

~ Thomas Paine, A Dissertation on the First Principles of Government, 1795

Offline Geolibertarian

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,001
  • 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! www.ae911truth.org
Herman Cain: The Whore of Babylon
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2011, 02:20:36 pm »
http://www.prisonplanet.com/herman-cain-the-whore-of-babylon.html

Herman Cain: The Whore of Babylon

Patrick Henningsen
Infowars.com
November 18, 2011

It’s not often that a mainstream political figure bares his true evil face in public, sans disguise and without right of left cover. When they do, the average man can only sit back in a state of shock and awe.

Republican Presidential candidate Herman Cain is one such political figure.

Unfortunately for him, America can ill afford to entertain a man like Cain, he who crossed the Rubicon this week, and unfortunately there is no coming back.

Struggling with dwindling poll numbers and desperate to shovel up any remains of a campaign shattered by sex scandals and GOP in-fighting, the deep-pan pepperoni oligarch addressed a crowd of his remaining hard core supporters recently and proceeded to take a few pot shots at the Occupy Wall Street movement. The speech was caught on video, with Cain exposing his true colors – in high definition.

Apparently, Cain is not a big fan of OWS, nor is he a big fan of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States – freedom of free speech and assembly.

“Free speech is one thing in this country- and we value free speech, but when they believe that their free speech can be used to block people from go’in to work… to slow down and tear down our free market system, that’s not free speech! That’s try’in to tear down the greatest nation in the world”, said Cain to his supporters. Watch his shocking video

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORtz6HkNPng (Herman Cain on the Occupy Movement)

What is very interesting about Cain’s speech is that it could easily have come from the mouth of a Party Leader in Maoist China, or from the Central African Republic’s brutal dictator Jean Bedél Bokassa. Such a bare admission is almost beyond words.

Hence, voters should be under no illusion as to what type of President ex-Federal Reserve Banker Herman Cain would be. The last three US Presidents have managed to route most of the US Constitution and funnel power into the executive branch.

Herman Cain is a qualified candidate… qualified to be the man who would gleefully put the final nails in the coffin of the dying legacy of our founding fathers.

If Martin Luther King were alive to see Cain in action, it’s likely that the civil rights legend would be reaching for a handful of Valiums.
"Abolish all taxation save that upon land values." -- Henry George

"If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill." -- Thomas Edison

http://webofdebt.com
http://schalkenbach.org
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=203330.0

Offline global_fiefdom

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 720
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2011, 03:02:05 pm »
the greatest corporations in the world -- i hope they are crapping bricks this morning.

Offline Dok

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 21,713
    • end times and current events
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2011, 12:36:42 pm »
Herman Cain and the Holy Land Experience

MUST READ TO BELIEVE!!

By the time Herman Cain took the stage, Jesus had already been crucified, resurrected and returned to Earth to collect the faithful once that day.

Cain made a campaign stop Friday at The Holy Land Experience, a Christian-theme amusement park in central Florida where visitors pay $35 to watch a reenactment of the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ just minutes from Disney World.

In the park, which is run by the religious television station Trinity Broadcasting Network, employees dressed as shepherd boys, pharisees, Roman soldiers and merchants from first-century Israel lead the faithful on tours through the re-created streets of old Jerusalem, perform re-enactment shows and serve as baristas in the coffee shop. Over the course of a day at Holy Land, you can take communion--fed to you from the hand of a bearded actor playing Christ with flowing brown hair--browse an impressive collection of early Bibles, rock out to praise-song karaoke, get baptized and even have your picture taken with Jesus on a Harley.

And on this day, you can meet Herman Cain.

REST: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/herman-cain-holy-land-experience-130621445.html
HOW TO BE SAVED
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_saved.html

Ye Must Be Born Again!
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/ye_must_be_born_again.htm

True Salvation & the TRUE Gospel/Good News!
http://www.contendingfortruth.com/?p=1060

how to avoid censorship ;)

Jordan

  • Guest
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2011, 01:47:16 pm »
Herman Cain and the Holy Land Experience

MUST READ TO BELIEVE!!

By the time Herman Cain took the stage, Jesus had already been crucified, resurrected and returned to Earth to collect the faithful once that day.

Cain made a campaign stop Friday at The Holy Land Experience, a Christian-theme amusement park in central Florida where visitors pay $35 to watch a reenactment of the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ just minutes from Disney World.

In the park, which is run by the religious television station Trinity Broadcasting Network, employees dressed as shepherd boys, pharisees, Roman soldiers and merchants from first-century Israel lead the faithful on tours through the re-created streets of old Jerusalem, perform re-enactment shows and serve as baristas in the coffee shop. Over the course of a day at Holy Land, you can take communion--fed to you from the hand of a bearded actor playing Christ with flowing brown hair--browse an impressive collection of early Bibles, rock out to praise-song karaoke, get baptized and even have your picture taken with Jesus on a Harley.

And on this day, you can meet Herman Cain.

REST: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/herman-cain-holy-land-experience-130621445.html


I have not the words... but I'm laughing

Jordan

  • Guest
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2011, 12:47:38 pm »
Race Card laid bare -- Herman Cain mailer tells Iowans he will win GOP race because of black vote

In a new Iowa mailer, Herman Cain says he believes he will be the 2012 GOP nominee because he’s a descendant of slaves who can garner a large share of the black vote, he didn’t inherit a dime, he has traveled the globe for years, and he’s a believer in Jesus Christ.

“The news media and the Republican establishment are stunned!” says the first line of the seven-page mailer. “I am now the front runner in the race for the Republican Presidential campaign and the highly regarded Rasmussen poll shows me defeating President Obama.”

But then he asks Iowans to tell him which of the other candidates they’re supporting, saying “there are lots of good folks in the race.”

A “poll” asks people to check a box for a candidate among a list of nine in alphabetical order, including Gary Johnson.

Cain lists several points on why he thinks he will win the nomination, including that “as a descendant of slaves I can lead the Republican party to victory by garnering a large share of the black vote, something that has not been done since Dwight Eisenhower garnered 41 percent of the black vote in 1956.”

The letter mentions Ronald Reagan three times. “It’s true that both Ronald Reagan and I grew up poor, worked hard, and put our faith in God,” he says.

Cain says his “grassroots team is unmatched in Iowa” and the other early states, but that Mitt Romney and Rick Perry have a financial edge on him.

The final pitch asks Iowans to send a “personal reply to Herman Cain” with a donation of up to $5,000 per couple.
http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/11/19/herman-cain-mailer-tells-iowans-he-will-win-gop-race-because-of-black-vote/

Jordan

  • Guest
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2011, 12:55:26 pm »
Herman Cain Was Elated When He Learned That His Muslim-Sounding Doctor Wasn’t Muslim - Phew!

When Herman Cain made an appearance at a Jesus-themed amusement park in Florida recently, he made an effort to connect with the pious Christians who had decided to spend their day there instead of someplace even remotely fun. And what better way to ingratiate yourself to your Christian brothers and sisters than telling an anecdote about how much you hate Muslims! As Yahoo's Chris Moody reports:

    He did have a slight worry at one point during the chemotherapy process when he discovered that one of the surgeon's name was "Dr. Abdallah."

    "I said to his physician assistant, I said, 'That sounds foreign — not that I had anything against foreign doctors — but it sounded too foreign," Cain tells the audience. "She said, 'He's from Lebanon.' Oh, Lebanon! My mind immediately started thinking, wait a minute, maybe his religious persuasion is different than mine! She could see the look on my face and she said, 'Don't worry, Mr. Cain, he's a Christian from Lebanon.'"

    "Hallelujah!" Cain says. "Thank God!"

    The crowd laughs uneasily.

We're almost shell-shocked by how unbelievably bigoted that story is. Apparently, in addition to being terrorist sympathizers who want to replace the Constitution with Sharia, Muslim-Americans are supposed to be pro-cancer now, too.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/11/herman-cain-muslim-doctor.html

Jordan

  • Guest
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2011, 11:06:30 am »
Ginger White alleges Herman Cain had 13-year extramarital affair with her

WASHINGTON (AP) — In an explosive allegation, a Georgia woman said Monday she and Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain had a 13-year extramarital affair that lasted nearly until the former businessman announced his candidacy for the White House several months ago.

"Here we go again. I didn't do anything wrong," Cain said in a pre-emptive denial that lumped a detailed claim of a consensual affair in with earlier allegations of sexual harassment.

But the woman, Ginger White, said in an interview with Fox 5 Atlanta that over the years, Cain bought her airplane tickets so she could join him in cities as far-flung as Palm Springs, Calif., and Atlanta.

"It was fun," the 46-year-old White said. "It was something that took me away from my humdrum life at the time. And it was exciting."

Cain's candidacy was soaring in the polls until he was hit less than a month ago with accusations that he sexually harassed several women and groped one while he was a high-ranking official at the National Restaurant Association. He has since fallen back in the public opinion surveys, and been eclipsed by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich in the race to emerge as the principle conservative alternative to Mitt Romney.

At her apartment in Dunwoody, Ga., White declined to elaborate on her statements during a brief interview with AP. "I can't make any comment on this," she said. "We're trying to be slightly sensitive."

In its report, the television station said White had Cain's name in her cell phone contacts, and when its reporter sent a text message to the number, he called right back.

"He told us he knew 'Ginger White' but said he was trying to help her financially," the station said.

In a written statement released immediately after the story aired, Cain's campaign said detractors were trying to "derail the Cain Train with more accusations of past events that never happened."

Later, at a fundraiser in the Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C., Cain avoided reporters' questions.

In his initial denial, televised on CNN, Cain vowed to remain in the presidential race, as long as he has the support of his wife, with whom he said he had discussed the most recent allegation.

In her interview, White said she decided to come forward after seeing Cain attack his other accusers in an appearance on television.

"It bothered me that they were being demonized, sort of, and being treated as if they were automatically lying, and the burden of proof was on them," she said. "I felt bad for them."

White told the Atlanta TV station she expects to be scrutinized by Cain and the media.

Georgia court records show a series of judgments against White for not paying rent in Atlanta area apartments, including one filed about two weeks ago.

In the interview, she said she first met Cain in the late 1990s in Louisville, Ky., when he was president of the National Restaurant Association. They had drinks and he invited her to his hotel room, she recalled.

She quoted Cain as telling her, "You're beautiful to me and I would love for us to continue this friendship," then produced his personal calendar and invited her to meet him in Palm Springs.

In this case, unlike the others, Cain took the unorthodox step of issuing a denial in advance.

"I did not have an affair, and until I see and hear exactly what's going to be, what accusations are going to be made, let's move on," he said.

Asked if he suspected his accuser had emails, letters, gifts or other possible evidence of an affair, he replied,"No."

In a statement provided to AP, Cain's lawyer, Lin Wood, said the former businessman has no obligation to "discuss these types of accusations publicly with the media and he will not do so even if his principled position is viewed unfavorably by members of the media."

The statement drew a distinction between "private alleged consensual conduct between adults" and a case of harassment. It did not include an explicit denial of an affair along the lines that Cain himself provided in his television interview.

Contacted by AP, Wood added, "If any candidate wants to publicly discuss his private sex life, that is his or her life. But I don't believe that there's an obligation on the part of any political candidate to do so."

White's attorney, Edward Buckley, did not immediately return messages seeking comment.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/ginger-white-alleges-herman-cain-had-13-year-extramarital-affair-with-her

Offline global_fiefdom

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 720
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2011, 12:12:45 pm »
is Cain just generating negative attention to drown Ron Paul?

if they can't find dirt on the Doc then they fling mud at someone else and ignore the good man.

:(

Don't let your focus drift too much!!!

Jordan

  • Guest
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2011, 12:17:49 pm »
is Cain just generating negative attention to drown Ron Paul?

if they can't find dirt on the Doc then they fling mud at someone else and ignore the good man.

:(

Don't let your focus drift too much!!!

I think Cain is dead in the water , it's over for him.

Ging-grinch is who the is the danger. Seems like they might be using ALL the others to usurp votes from Paul to make it close enough for Newt to win. Which is a real role reversal.

Jordan

  • Guest
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2011, 09:15:06 pm »
CNN - "Cain 'reassessing' campaign after affair allegation"  bye bye brother Cain



Embattled Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain told his staff Tuesday he is "reassessing" the viability of his campaign in the wake of an allegation made Monday that he engaged in an extramarital affair that lasted for more than 13 years, CNN has learned.

A top campaign source told CNN he expects a decision "within a few days," based on whether Cain's fund-raising dries up.

Another source familiar with internal campaign deliberations told CNN the question now is "money and support." The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the already small campaign operation would likely have to lay off some staffers.

"We just staffed up some, but at a minimum it looks like (there is) no choice but to staff down," the source said. "We are in the period of the campaign where we need to spend to perform, and the question is will donors and Republicans believe" Cain or his newest accuser.

Cain spoke Tuesday morning to his staff for about 10 minutes. He said during the meeting that allegations of sexual impropriety "are taking an emotional toll on his family and that this is a very difficult time," said Cain's Iowa chairman, Steve Grubbs.

But on Tuesday night, the candidate went forward with a 40-minute speech to an enthusiastic audience at Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan. In it, Cain made no reference to the assertion by Atlanta businesswoman Ginger White that she and Cain carried on an on-again, off-again affair for more than 13 years before it ended about eight months ago.

Cain denied her assertion on Monday night and, on Tuesday, he repeated the denial in a letter to supporters. "I am writing you today to assure you that this woman's story is completely false," he wrote.

"I do know Ms. White. I have helped her financially at times over the past few years, just as I have helped many friends and acquaintances throughout the years. I thought Ms. White was a friend in need of a supportive hand to better her life.

"Ms. White has made it apparent that she was abusing the friendship."

The story broke Monday night when Atlanta television station WAGA aired an interview with White in which she said she that the affair began after she and Cain met in the late 1990s in Louisville, Kentucky, where Cain was giving a talk as head of the National Restaurant Association.

"I was aware that he was married, and I was also aware that I was involved in a very inappropriate situation -- relationship," she said.

White told CNN affiliate WSB that she had and Cain had a sexual relationship. "Absolutely," White said when asked if the relationship was sexual.

White told WAGA the affair ended early this year as Cain prepared to announce his presidential bid. But she pointed to mobile phone records she said prove Cain was calling her as late as September, including one call at 4:26 a.m.

Cain, who lives in suburban Atlanta, told his staff Tuesday that White was "a friend and he helped her financially but that nothing inappropriate took place."

The candidate said his wife's reaction upon hearing of the accusation was, "Here we go again." And he said he had no plans to drop out of the race.

"Not as long as my wife is behind me and as long as my wife believes I should stay in this race," he said.

In a written statement issued Monday, after the interview aired, Cain said, "I am running for president of the United States of America, and the reality is that there are individuals out there that favor the status quo of higher taxes, more government and political cronyism and they are afraid of a Cain presidency."

White's emergence comes after two other women -- Sharon Bialek and Karen Kraushaar -- accused Cain this month of sexually harassing them in the 1990s while he was head of the restaurant association. Two other women also have said Cain sexually harassed them while they worked at the association, but they have declined to be identified.

Cain has denied all the accusations, but he has slipped in published polls since the allegations surfaced.

Cain attorney Lin Wood said Monday that reporters had no business asking about the allegation.

"Some things are fair game and some aren't," Wood told CNN in a telephone interview, adding that this was one that was off-limits. "You've got to draw the line somewhere."

WAGA said it and other news organizations had received a tip from someone who knew White about the alleged affair.

"I wanted to come out and give my side before it was thrown out there and made to be something, you know, filthy, which some people will look at this and say, that's exactly what it is," White told the station.

WAGA said White's history includes a 2001 sexual harassment claim against an employer that was settled, a 23-year-old bankruptcy in Kentucky and several evictions over the past six years. A former business partner accused her of stalking her with repeated e-mails and texts in a case that was ultimately dismissed, followed by a libel suit White lost because she failed to respond to it, WAGA said.

But White's attorney, Edward Buckley, told CNN's "John King USA" that his client has no apparent financial motive for making the accusation and "everything to lose."

"To tell you candidly, I don't know if she is employed or not, because she was kind of on the ropes because of all this stuff," Buckley said. "The media called her employer before this story came out, and it made it very difficult for her in the workplace."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/29/politics/cain-accusation-affair/index.html

Offline tritonman

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,255
Re: The Herman Cain Deception
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2011, 09:23:15 pm »
As long as his wife believes him he is staying in.   Earth to Cain....  Did Hillary really believe Bill?   She still stayed with him .  Power corrupts, Herman.