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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 03:04:22 PM » |
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That is getting easier when you point out the Bush administrations disaster and bring it into today. I am winning that argument at work, when I point out how much they hated the Bush years and today is worse under Obama using the same tactics practically. Spend spend.They notice that. Obamas gotta stop wars,yeah right, they notice that to. Do not need many facts when comparing these two, people are living in it. When they ask serious questions then I can get em to listen to the truth.
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4And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
5But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 03:51:24 PM » |
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I'd like someone to convince me; I'm still not sure the left & right are in cahoots. My best friend is a huge Alex Jones and Ron Paul supporter, but he only offers me secondary sources. I want to see primary sources.
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The function of the law is not to provide justice or to preserve freedom. The function of the law is to keep those who hold power, in power.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 04:00:35 PM » |
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They both are backed by the same money, and they back the same wars. They both bailed out the bankster elites because of this. Both support an ever expanding government to supress it's own people and people abroad alike. They both support big pharma, The state Ed. and on and on. If anyone is even half looking their partnerships are right in your face. The sources are all on this forum if you wish to look for them and the nightly news even reports on it although they report it and then try to get the two parties supporters to fight over it. They still report on all of the above. Which brings to mind that if the news comes from the supposed left or right it is still the sam thing. This is nor rocket science, just follow the money and power grabs.  Just how much more primary can you get than right out of the mouths of both parties and those who report on them. Good grief.. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 04:12:06 PM » |
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Democrats - Socialist Authoritarians Republicans - Kleptocratic Authoritarians www.politcalcompass.org both are in the upper authoritarian half and not in the libertarian half. Except Ron Paul. |
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 04:22:06 PM » |
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That is getting easier when you point out the Bush administrations disaster and bring it into today. I am winning that argument at work, when I point out how much they hated the Bush years and today is worse under Obama using the same tactics practically. Spend spend.They notice that. Obamas gotta stop wars,yeah right, they notice that to. Do not need many facts when comparing these two, people are living in it. When they ask serious questions then I can get em to listen to the truth.
To boot, Reagan was no conservative...he was a SOCIALIST(known as Red Ronnie in Hollywood we should add) who tripled the national debt(or deficit, can't remember which one). Also to add too, wasn't the "new GOP elected" Congress supposed to overturn Obamacare almost immediately in Jan? Whatever happened to that? Another good one to point out to them. |
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 04:26:37 PM » |
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Also point this out too - back in 2000 when John McCain was running in the GOP primaries, the evangelical right almost immediately pointed him out as a non-Christian. The fast-forward to 2008...all of a sudden when he won the GOP ticket, this same evangelical right was ALMOST IMMEDIATELY saying he's a good fundamental conservative family values Christian. One example of how the higher elites know how to manipulate the public via the mass media.
Also point out the manipulation of the media over how they make political candidates look - remember when they did one heck of a job portraying Bush Jr as a true born again Christian?(despite his ties with Skull and Bones AND the MSM's expose of it) Of course, Bush Jr we knew by his rotten fruits. Use this as an example, as well as the above, that they should be good Boreans in the book of Acts and do their OWN research and searching to see if these things are so.
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 04:35:09 PM » |
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Neither John McCain nor Barrack Obama are American citizens. McCain was born in Panama and Obama in Kenya.
Both parties were violating the "natural-born" clause in the US Constitution on purpose.
That and despite being an enlightened civil-rights minded society both parties do their best to keep 3rd parties from gaining ballot access.
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 04:44:49 PM » |
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MONOPOLY = DUOPOLY
MONARCHY = DUARCHY
DIVIDE and RULE = CONTROL BOTH SIDES
As long as the two halves of the
population are at each other's
throats they're not at the King's throat.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 05:32:15 PM » |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohKz9OeiI0g&feature=feedflook at 6:21 and 6:22, it just shows you that the majority of candidates are fake. Everyone should just vote for Ron Paul, even if you disagree with what he says, ATLEAST YOU KNOW WHAT HE WILL DO AS PRESIDENT, these other guys promise one thing and do something completely different.... unpredictable.... people are voting for the devil they don't even know , instead of the Angel that actually gives two craps about you and this country.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2011, 08:05:53 PM » |
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I'd like someone to convince me; I'm still not sure the left & right are in cahoots. My best friend is a huge Alex Jones and Ron Paul supporter, but he only offers me secondary sources. I want to see primary sources.
There is no left or right. That's just crap to stereotype you. The real choice is Freedom or Control. |
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2011, 08:23:20 PM » |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohKz9OeiI0g&feature=feedflook at 6:21 and 6:22, it just shows you that the majority of candidates are fake. Everyone should just vote for Ron Paul, even if you disagree with what he says, ATLEAST YOU KNOW WHAT HE WILL DO AS PRESIDENT, these other guys promise one thing and do something completely different.... unpredictable.... people are voting for the devil they don't even know , instead of the Angel that actually gives two craps about you and this country. Watch the whole thing. Great compilation!  |
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2011, 08:31:18 PM » |
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Watch the whole thing. Great compilation! Well yea, but 6:21 - 22 was one of my fav parts. |
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2011, 08:34:16 PM » |
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Well yea, but 6:21 - 22 was one of my fav parts.
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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