Live Republican Debate STARRING_RonPaul coverage here.

[adissenter2]

only poll I could find about about the supposed debate so far

http://vortexeffect.net/2011/09/07/poll-who-do-you-think-won-tonight%E2%80%99s-nbc-news-politico-republican-debate/

[pac522]

only poll I could find about about the supposed debate so far

http://vortexeffect.net/2011/09/07/poll-who-do-you-think-won-tonight%E2%80%99s-nbc-news-politico-republican-debate/

Ron Paul could probably not show up at a debate and still win an online poll afterwards. LOL

[FrozenFlames]

here's another:
http://ed.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/13/6851987-poll-who-won-tonights-gop-debate
12,446 voting
9,567 votes for Ron Paul (76.9% !)

That one is from June.

[adissenter2]

I remember the last go around McCain supporters had to be shipped in from Virginia to work a table for McCain at the Montana GOP State Convention where they were picking delegates to to to the National Convention

[Sasha]

That one is from June.

can't tell how many have voted, but Ron Paul is winning with 67.7%
Rick Santorum's .1% means that at least 1000 though
http://online.worldmag.com/2011/09/07/online-poll-who-won-wednesdays-gop-debate-at-the-reagan-library/

[tritonman]

Here is a poll on tonights debate.
Although I think it is safe to say who will win this one.
http://www.ronpaul.com/

[blackbeagle]

For a second there, I thought I was tuning in to the "Let's Meet Governor Perry" Hour. Geezus H, how many questions does this guy get to field? Did you also notice the slick camera work (courtesy of the GE Capital bosses)? They would always concentrate on Perry, Romney, and Bachman....the lovely establishment candidates. They wouldn't dare put the camera on Paul, Cain, or the dude on the right (whatever his name is).

[John_Back_From_The_Club_O]

Ready camera 2.   OK, ready fake applause...... NOW!

[Sasha]

Howard Fineman on the pseudo-Tea Party,... they want someone who looks Presidential.

An unfortunate truth about the easily fooled.

[tritonman]

more polls, get busy voting.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/07/7658608-who-do-you-think-won-the-republican-debate-at-the-reagan-library


This is the only one that is even close but Ron Paul is still winning but not by enough.  vote in this one
http://news.yahoo.com/obamas-best-jobs-plan-might-status-quo-220816561.html

[Dig]

For a second there, I thought I was tuning in to the "Let's Meet Governor Perry" Hour. Geezus H, how many questions does this guy get to field? Did you also notice the slick camera work (courtesy of the GE Capital bosses)? They would always concentrate on Perry, Romney, and Bachman....the lovely establishment candidates. They wouldn't dare put the camera on Paul, Cain, or the dude on the right (whatever his name is).

Great observation. This was not a debate, it was a 90 minute Rick Perry infomercial.

But here are some amazing observations..

1]

Newt Gingrich actually said that the next false flag terror attack will kill hundreds of thousands of Americans.
THAT CLIP NEEDS TO GO VIRAL ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was so shocking no one could even understand it and it was ignored, but we know exactly what he means. It was the same warning that Gary Hart made which caused AJ to get on the air before 9/11. The timing of the movie contagion is very suspect as well as CSIS white papers. MITRE, SAIC, and Bozz Allen are also primary suspects for 9/11 and other false flags so they likely will be leading the nexct false flag that Newt Gingrich is exposing.
2]

Ron Paul called out Rick Perry on Hilarycare, Perry fired back about Ron Paul leaving Reagan's side. Ron Paul (as usual) did not hesitate and explained that he was one of only forur representatives who endorsed Reagan and when the policies became big government he left. Then he said 'It is time to tell the truth about this". He basically exposed the entire Reagan myth...AND HE DID IT IN THE REAGAN LIBRARY! Those are Patrck Henry balls that Dr. Paul is swinging! Those are Andrew Jackson balls! King Kong ain't got nothing on him!

3] Thankfully, the questions brought up the HPV death shot and Rick Perry's abuse of power. Paul, Bachman, and surprisingly Santorum expressed the underlying tyranny and insanity of it. Santorum looked like he wanted to punch Rick Perry in the face because he has 7 children (but Santorum always looks like that, maybe he was constipated). In any case Romney was the only one defending him...investigate Romney Big Pharma and you will see why. Also Rick said 'I feel like a Mexican Pinata here'. Year Rick good fricking answer. He is now acting like a poor little victim who we must protect. Look at poor Rick Perry who mass murdered 8 year old girls with a Big Pharma death shot because he got kickbacks. Let's all save him from the ones exposing his mass murder.

[MonkeyPuppet]

I'm going to get shit for this, but aside from the veiled threat of mass murder on American soil, Newt had his shit together and at least promoted the idea of the GOP working together... I'm going to guess that he (or his staff) fielded every question beforehand.  I'm not holding his dick here... I'm just saying he was among the few that delivered concise and coherent responses with substance.  He's not a real contender and only in the game to amass a segment of support to later shift to whomever he'll endorse.

Perry totally ate his balls.  Anyone watching this "debate" after 30mins or so couldn't help but notice Perry was completely unprepared because all he brought was his douchy haircut.  Is it just me or is this obvious f**k-up on his part a sign that he's lost TPTB support?

Bachmann brought nothing new whatsoever... she might as well have just stayed home and baked a cake for her gay-bashing husband.

Yeah, Santorum always looks like that (constipated) and his feeble attempts at attacking character when he has none are the farthest thing from impressive.

Cain impresses me (calm down!), but his "999" plan is f**king stupid because he's missing a couple key pieces of fact (and law)... 1. the federal income tax is being illegally enforced and misapplied upon the American public, and 2. there is ZERO Constitutional support for a "national sales tax".  Supporting the former (albeit at a fixed rate) and proposing the latter tell me he would be no better a leader with regard to the preservation of individual liberty (esp. economic liberty) than anyone else.

Romney thinks the federal income tax pays for roads and schools... nuff said.  This dingleberry has absolutely no redeeming qualities.

That Huntsman guy is new to me.  He, like Newt, seemed on point and well rehearsed.  His foreign policy has blinders for Red China, he's ignorant of the limited taxing authority of the federal Congress, and he's a AGW bootlicker.  His social talking points also tell me he's just fine with government intervention with regard to any and every area of our lives.

Ron Paul did great for the little time that he got.  He was on his game for the most part, but it's my opinion he was tossed these weak questions to avoid the grandstanding that could and would have occurred had he been given the floor upon which to slaughter every RINO up there.

[decepticon]

I'm going to get shit for this,

If you do it's BS, this forum is supposed to be about critical thinking and forming your own opinions on candidates, listening to what they have to say, not just blindly following whoever AJ plugs, so kudos.

Newt

Yeah I thought Newt held his own, but by his history we know he only wants to 'audit' the FED because Ron + Co. are pushing that direction and people are agreeing. All the 'unity' talk was nice, but just more rhetoric, nothing he said really struck a nerve with me, or made me think he would push REAL change.

Perry totally ate his balls.

Agreed, I thought Perry was the most schmucky candidate on that stage. It was all talking points. Just a very weak debate for this candidate, if this is what the NWO is pushing they are going to have to do ALOT better than this guy. He had no real defense for his mandated vaccines, and no real rebuttal to Ron bringing up his letter fawning Hillary-care, except to say 'I was kind of a big deal at the time...'

Perry just looked like he was looking around for the live camera so he could smirk into it and give us some nice rhetoric like we were one of his supposed 'young hotties'.

Santorum

Meh, mostly alot of 'I was a lacky for big shots in D.C.'. And his whole speech at the end about 'people should be proud to spend money 'spreading our good' all over the world'. What a freaking load of B.S. !!! Stating that we're 'isolationists' if we don't want to bomb third world countries, sad really.

Him coming out of left field bringing up Ron during the war-mongering questioning was pretty amusing. Ron hadn't been asked about the wars the whole time, maybe Santorum was harboring a little resentment for getting spanked in the Iowa caucus ? We can only speculate

Cain

His whole 999 gave me the heebee-jeebee's being an inverted 666 and all, lol, but you know me. Agreed his national sales tax is absolutely ridiculous and better not get any support. One of those things that sounds good when he's saying it, but when you look at it closer it gets really ugly.

He wasn't bad comparatively though, I will give him that. He did talk about actual solutions rather than the Perry and Huntsman approaches of lathering on the talking points, which I could barely stand to listen to after the first hour.

Romney

Rhino to the bone. I really don't see how this guy is considered a 'front-runner' supporting the individual mandate for healthcare. Nothing about him really appealed to me, other than his silver tongue. He came off to me as a smooth-talking Fascist.

Huntsman

Didn't bother me too much the first hour+. Other than the rhetoric, he made some pretty nice anti-TSA statements and such, but then he got on his SCIENCE trip. OMFGWTFAAHHHHHH. Spinning the debate wildly out of control, asking candidates what kind of policies they would implement on unproven THEORIES, aaahhh.

Hearing a politician go off into how he is such a great scientific mind, about THEORIES that have never been proven, and in the process showing he's a Green Nazi. Let's just say I found his NWO seal of approval, which was hidden fairly well to that point.

Ron Paul

Not asked about Obamacare, NOT asked about the wars, NOT asked about the FED !! I found it funny how they shifted from asking all the candidates what they would do about taxes/FED, to asking Ron if he would steal a loaf of bread from a starving child. Pretty lame questioning. You ask all the candidates about the 'audit/end the fed' movement that Ron has been championing for decades, then skip him and go to a totally unrelated question, pretty pathetic.

Of course he was labeled 'devil's advocate absolutist' on his first question. So that was nice and 'unbiased' questioning by the moderator.

The silver lining, Ron got the last word, which you can tell was unintentional because they said 'Oh, we didn't realize we were out of time' lolz

Seems like they were making this a Perry/Romney fanboy contest. Asking all the candidates, 'What do you think about what Perry did here ? What do you think about what Romney did there ?' Absolutely too much time was given to these candidates, debates are supposed to be balanced, half the time it seemed that they would ask a question to either Perry or Romney, then ask another candidate what they thought of what Perry or Romney said, then move on to the next question. Poor debate structuring IMO.

At least Ron is smashing them in the preleminary polls.

[Dig]

I'm going to get shit for this, but aside from the veiled threat of mass murder on American soil, Newt had his shit together and at least promoted the idea of the GOP working together... I'm going to guess that he (or his staff) fielded every question beforehand.  I'm not holding his dick here... I'm just saying he was among the few that delivered concise and coherent responses with substance.  He's not a real contender and only in the game to amass a segment of support to later shift to whomever he'll endorse.

Never underestimate the Newt. He is about the smartest person in the country. Possibly on the level of a Brzezinski but without the Nazi accent so you think he is just a good 'ol boy. But he is a solid debater and has mastery of his audience and surroundings. This, to me, is why he is so dangerous. He has failed the GOP though and those wounds do not heal easily. He may get attention from independents and progressives but not likely from the GOP voters and all of the polls reinforce this.

Perry totally ate his balls.  Anyone watching this "debate" after 30mins or so couldn't help but notice Perry was completely unprepared because all he brought was his douchy haircut.  Is it just me or is this obvious f**k-up on his part a sign that he's lost TPTB support?

I think that TPTB already gave up on Gingrich (most of top staff left) and they are going to stick with Perry a little longer.

Bachmann brought nothing new whatsoever... she might as well have just stayed home and baked a cake for her gay-bashing husband.

I thought this was her best performance, she was actually articulating real issues. As far as her family life and past work history, I think they are deal breakers for most GOP voters.

Yeah, Santorum always looks like that (constipated) and his feeble attempts at attacking character when he has none are the farthest thing from impressive.

The domino effect on Perry made him sweat, but Santorum ain't going up in the polls with that showing.

Cain impresses me (calm down!), but his "999" plan is f**king stupid because he's missing a couple key pieces of fact (and law)... 1. the federal income tax is being illegally enforced and misapplied upon the American public, and 2. there is ZERO Constitutional support for a "national sales tax".  Supporting the former (albeit at a fixed rate) and proposing the latter tell me he would be no better a leader with regard to the preservation of individual liberty (esp. economic liberty) than anyone else.

I liked Cain too on some items, but he has no clue and would be easily manipulated by the globalists.

Romney thinks the federal income tax pays for roads and schools... nuff said.  This dingleberry has absolutely no redeeming qualities.

Research Romney and WWASP to see how evil this guy really is.

That Huntsman guy is new to me.  He, like Newt, seemed on point and well rehearsed.  His foreign policy has blinders for Red China, he's ignorant of the limited taxing authority of the federal Congress, and he's a AGW bootlicker.  His social talking points also tell me he's just fine with government intervention with regard to any and every area of our lives.

Huntsman was until recently Obama's ambassador to China. He is not trusted by GOP  voters.

Ron Paul did great for the little time that he got.  He was on his game for the most part, but it's my opinion he was tossed these weak questions to avoid the grandstanding that could and would have occurred had he been given the floor upon which to slaughter every RINO up there.

GE/MSNBC was scared to death of a fair debate which would have skyrotted Paul through the stratosphere.