More Zeitgeist Gaia Worshipping Cultist Propaganda to serve the banksters goals

[Nutteralex]

Ok well this is probably be the only post I'll make on this board. I am a 20 year old male from the Suburbs of Southern Ontario. I will soon be going to school to hopefully become a Paramedic. As long as I can remember I've been a sort of "rebel." As long as I can remember I've ALWAYS have been frustrated and confused as to why celebrities and other things like that have had a number 1 spot in the news. I also read 1984 before watching any videos about the NWO. My experience with watching conspiracy movies started shortly after the 9/11 attacks. Of course, with the release of Zeitgeist it made me want to answer more questions. So with a little back round knowledge of who I am, I am going to let you know what I think PERSONALLY of all the events that are taking place. I will play Devils Advocate A LOT in this as well because I'm trying to offer alternative thinking.

I. Theories

1. The New World Order.

A NWO is probably the best thing to happen to man kind. The people ahead of it are a classic case of "All the right ideas, for all the wrong reasons," however. It would be ideal to live in a world where we can work together as a human race without any war. This cannot be done according to our WHITE history.

Now I will talk about the people behind it. I do honestly believe that the people behind it think they are doing a good thing for humanity, as well as I think Hitler thought he was doing a good thing for humanity. After all, I have been told (so don't quote me on this) that creating a Utopia is the first step in insanity. How is this relevant? They seriously believe they are creating a Utopia that is better humanity, because looking at our history we have lived with war since the beginning of history (The Natives are the only ones who had it right). When you think about it wouldn't a NWO be ideal for humanity in the long run? If we can stop pointless death over wars and stage a couple terrorist attacks a year that kills maybe 10 people. You have to look at it in a perspective of comic book/movie The Watchmen, a ton of deaths at once vs. a lot of death over a span of time. Humanity is dangerous to this world that can support life. Isn't this what the end of 1984 is really about after the main character is done being tortured? (feel free to correct me it's been a while since I've read it)

2. The Illuminati/Satanism...

Ok what I've gathered about the Illuminati is that it's a series of secret societies that take part in Satanic rituals and are the head of the NWO. I don't know whether or not to actually believe that a main base secret society that has the same running family members that take part in straight up Satanic rituals for 300 years. The Illuminati idea can be propaganda for making people who are looking for the truth seem straight up batshit insane. I mean you take a person off the street and tell them about the Illuminati they're going to think your off your f**king rocker. The same can be put in place abou the whole Satanic thing. Who is their number one enemy in America? Stupid redneck right wing Christian gun nuts? Does this sound familiar in current event? Because let's face it, if this does come to blood shed, we're going to NEED this type of American on our side. They could very well be getting rid of them before the final move is made. The Bohemian Grove, The Skull and Bones blah blah blah could be very well a set up for Christians to make videos about them making it seem like a national problem. Let's face it the majority don't know about everything that's happening so they will be likely to go along with it, saying "I don't want a bunch of redneck bible thumpers starting an uprising over stupid shit." Then there goes our number 1 warrior in NA. Do you really think if they were so close to world domination they would be naming their organization Skull and Bones? No, they'd be as secretive about it as possible, they aren't stupid people.

3. Alex Jones.

Alex Jones to me is kind of a case of "Doing the right things, for the wrong reasons." I DO NOT want to discredit the man, he is doing a wonderful thing, but at times I want to shake my head. When you fight evil, sometimes you turn into the evil you are fighting and I can see this possibly happening to him. No one should place a lot of trust and faith into one man. I will end it with that no hostility or anything of that kind towards him.

4. Religion in General.

One thing that we all should be aware about and we probably all are aware about is a new religion coming. I wouldn't be so hastily putting all your faith into Atheism or Science in general. This WILL be the next choice because if you mix Atheism with Meta Physics BAM, you have a religion and this could put a halt to science. Science is science because it continues to be challenged. This will only justify using social darwinism as well.

I will say that me, myself believe in a god and a spiritual world but would spit on the bible. You have to let go of a biblical God. If you really look at it "God" and the gods before him were actually the first Big Brother. Religion was a way to control people back in the day and even today because people are scared of an all seeing man, and if you don't follow his rules you get tortured for the rest of the after life. I think it's great to be spiritual and believe in a God and justice but I really think organized religion has been slowing down the advancement of the human race.

5. Theories conclusion is that I think we're focusing on some of the wrong parts and going by this the wrong way. EVEN IF "the elite" were all Satanist it wouldn't change my opinion on if they needed to be stopped and all it's doing is making people afraid and if that's the aim, are you really better then the people behind the NWO? That is also why this movement could potentially be as dangerous as the people it's aiming to stop because when you fight evil you sometimes turn into that same evil. The people in those mega churches that speak tongues and run around scare me just as much as any satanist would, it's all just retarded.

Down claiming peak oil and other things like that is very dangerous. I do believe we are coming close to peak oil, I know tons of people in Uni that have personally studied it. I know everything that is told to us isn't true and the education system is totally corrupt blah blah blah. Remember these are independent researches and "the elite" cannot control absolutely everything...yet.

II. The next steps

Ok I think there are 3 ways this will go down...

1. Total bloodshed. An all out war between "the elite" and their army of "sheeps" vs. The rebels, people like you and me almost like a Star Wars (old trilogy) good vs. evil style. I think that in order for this to be complete it has to pass through this stage anyway. This will be the biggest war that will probably ever happen in the history of man kind unless if we fight aliens in our future. It will pretty much be a global civil war, which is scary as f**k to think about. I think the first 5 years or so will be gloomy as f**k for the rebel side but the tide will change. Military officers will turn when they see what they are really doing, we'll learn to make guns/take over bases and just generally get better at fighting.

2. The next generation. We have to educate our kids about what's happening, because I think the final steps will be taken in 20-30 years because even though they seem close we all know they have extreme patience and they still have some work to do. If they do decide to skip some steps look at 1.

3. Eliminate money, completely. I'm sure everyone would agree with this step, because it's in the illusion of money were all their power lies. Getting the world to do this would be hard though. I'm hoping they take a step to soon and create a world dollar to soon and makes the world economy crash so everyone says, "f**k this shit, let's localize and depend on ourselves and our neighbours."
This is what Micheal Ruppart is all about. Everyone should watch Collapse he's a CIA whistle blower, that talks about peak oil, water shortages blah blah blah blah. Anyway he's kind of a cocky asshole but he knows what he's talking about. I know a lot of people on here will say he's on their side and what not but in that documentary he even says "The people who run this world are losing control"

The next step conclusion. I personally think this will end in bloodshed but however it ends I know that justice will prevail and they will not win in the end. Even if they do I can see it shaping like the medival times where families and houses fight for the throne (world) and eventually their greed will catch up with them.


Conclusion of all conclusions.

Stop being so pushy with this subject, people will not like you shoving info like this down their throats. Stop saying they're Satanist and stupid shit like that and focus on the issues that actually matter. Localize anyway, support your farmers market, start a little vegi spot in your back yard, build a chicken coop, you're going need this stuff anyway with the coming economic crash. Learn how to properly shoot a gun, because if I'm getting forced into a concentration camp you better believe I'll be going down shooting or stabbing. Educating your kids about evil and power and what happens when you mix the two, after all everything will probably lie in their hands. I';m very tired so I left out some of what I wanted to say but mostly everything is there. Please challenge me or state your opinion on what I've said let me know what you think.

[Freeski]

"A NWO is probably the best thing to happen to man kind."

What's wrong with liberty? Maybe we can try that again before giving up and welcoming a global dictatorship where those who know best simply impose their will on all of humanity and snuff out all of us who refuse to obey or conform.

Freedom or tyranny: choose your side and wear your colors, proudly.

[decepticon]

Eliminate money, completely.

This is just silly. You can't eliminate 'money'. Money is just something traded on market value, even in a barter society a chicken is 'money', a goat is 'money', just in different forms. You need to keep money at a consistent value rather than printing it out of thin air making it totally pointless.

The problem isn't money or banking, it's the abuse of these things by people hell-bent on the destruction of our society, and yes the 'hell' is literal.

One thing that we all should be aware about and we probably all are aware about is a new religion coming.

It's already here. It is 'do what thou wilt'. In case you haven't noticed we are being trained to accept 'alternative lifestyles' more and more, as the traditional family is public enemy #1.

God

You know there is one, unless you believe molecules randomly arranged themselves to form infinitely complex reproducing cells, which I say takes more faith than believing in a creator.

I'm not going to go into theology, but it is curious to me that t.h.e.y. target Christians so directly. If the Bible is just another book, why is so much Occultism based on it, why don't they inverse stories from the Quaran ? Why do they claim they are foiling the God of the Bible's plans ? Why are they using plays out of his playbook ? Why don't they create their own story ? Answer: because Satan cannot create, he can only deceive, he is the father of lies. No, he can't even write an original story. That's why all these hollywood movies are the same story told 1000 different ways.

When they wrote the Bible they didn't take a story already told then try to discredit it and form their own religion. And don't give me all the Peter Joseph Son=Sun garbage, that has been thoroughly debunked.

You are spinning the same yarn as David Icke, Peter Joseph, David Wilcot, George Bush etc. 'The NWO is coming, but it will be a good thing.'

It's not going to be good, it's going to be a moral-less blood bath. That's what 'God was created for', to prevent people to going into complete self-interested chaos. If you think that will be a good thing, you are mistaken.

[Nutteralex]

I knew this would be taken wrong by you paranoia freaks. A new world order is what humanity needs, but it is not being done in the right way. As to say individualism is a new religion proves how f**ked up you people are, you take anything bad in our society and label it as the "Illuminati" doing it. Have you ever thought that humanity is f**ked up and at the end of the day we are not perfect and just animals. Although I will agree we have got to comfortable with the individual, to say it's a new religion is extremely laughable. The religion right now is material wealth and money, although that can be linked with the individual, that is not the problem. There is a time in your life where the only one who should matter is yourself and there is a time in your life where the only thing that matters is your family. I'm not naive enough to say that the stings aren't being pulled in ways we don't know about, but to believe all this Illuminati shit people taking over the world for the demonic father is retarded. Did you know the Devil was looked at as a good angel in the 1700-1800s when all the revolutions were taking place, he was the angel that defied God and power. Religion bends to how we feel because we created it, that's why it is always changing, to match the general thinking of morals in the day and age. Although I believe in a higher power, good vs evil and a spiritual place, I'd spit on a bible any day. If anything I consider this whole infowar movement as propaganda, who knows who is behind it and what their end goals are. And I'm convinced the whole "demonic Illuminati" thing is put in place to make people, mainly Christians seem insane, and keep them distracted from politics and what's actually going on. Think for yourselves.


BTW the skull and bones is just a frat where extremely rich and powerful kids trip out on drugs and do occult shit for shits and giggles, not some huge demonic conspiracy.

[egypt]

I knew this would be taken wrong by you paranoia freaks. A new world order is what humanity needs, but it is not being done in the right way. As to say individualism is a new religion proves how f**ked up you people are, you take anything bad in our society and label it as the "Illuminati" doing it. Have you ever thought that humanity is f**ked up and at the end of the day we are not perfect and just animals. Although I will agree we have got to comfortable with the individual, to say it's a new religion is extremely laughable. The religion right now is material wealth and money, although that can be linked with the individual, that is not the problem. There is a time in your life where the only one who should matter is yourself and there is a time in your life where the only thing that matters is your family. I'm not naive enough to say that the stings aren't being pulled in ways we don't know about, but to believe all this Illuminati shit people taking over the world for the demonic father is retarded. Did you know the Devil was looked at as a good angel in the 1700-1800s when all the revolutions were taking place, he was the angel that defied God and power. Religion bends to how we feel because we created it, that's why it is always changing, to match the general thinking of morals in the day and age. Although I believe in a higher power, good vs evil and a spiritual place, I'd spit on a bible any day. If anything I consider this whole infowar movement as propaganda, who knows who is behind it and what their end goals are. Think for yourselves.


BTW the skull and bones is just a frat where extremely rich and powerful kids trip out on drugs and do occult shit for shits and giggles, not some huge demonic conspiracy.

Nutteralex,

I'm glad you are here, expressing your views.  But, I can see many areas where you need to be educated.  I'll try and start out with just a couple of things...

1.  We need to distinguish ourselves apart from being animals.  It is in the name of "man and other animals" in our legislation that allows chemtrailing, for instance.  Chemtrailing is dumping billions of tons of aluminum, barium salts and other things.  The aluminum is changing the Ph of the soil which in turn causes plants to die and small critters necessary to good soil, to leave/die.  Do you approve of chemtrailing?  Just about every action being taken against humanity by our "loving" government is about "man is an animal."

2.  Skull and Bones.   One needs to look at the fruits of other's actions.  A person can say all they want, ultimately the truth lay in what they "do."  If you are unsure of someone in that they might be lying?  Just watch what they "do."  Are you familiar with Bohemian Grove in CA?  You should watch the movie "Bohemian Grove:  Dark Secrets..."

A major flaw in collectivism is that one size fits all.  A one world government (even if it were not criminal and was benevolent) is not necessarily great for every nation or all peoples.  In fact, for one world government to work, it has to be forced on people and those who don't like it have to be killed.  And, the ones it is forced upon -- they use: drugs, mind control, propaganda, poisoning, etc.  Zeitgeisters approve of all this somehow..  I do not see the justification, myself.   Seems like one world government is like trying to put the square peg into the round hole?  Then, look at the results... collectivism has never worked and countries taken over by it are not comprised of happy people.  In fact, those people can't wait to throw it off.

You seem very angry.  I have a question.  What did you expect when posting your "information" on the Alex Jones forum?  I see mostly inflamatory statements designed to distract.  If you really are here to learn and participate, please say so.

Love, e

[Freeski]

I knew this would be taken wrong by you paranoia freaks. A new world order is what humanity needs, but it is not being done in the right way. As to say individualism is a new religion proves how f**ked up you people are, you take anything bad in our society and label it as the "Illuminati" doing it. Have you ever thought that humanity is f**ked up and at the end of the day we are not perfect and just animals.

So you want to staff your New World Order with representatives of f**ked up humanity? Can you not see the insanity of that? You don't trust people enough to allow them to govern themselves, so you want to appoint others to do it for them - when it is the worst of humanity who will want these positions of power.

That makes no sense whatsoever!

[tritonman]

Well, at least he chose the name of Nutter as in nuts.   Perhaps his last name should be Slavewannabe.

[Nutteralex]

What I mean by that we're animals, we have instincts that will conflict with our way of thinking. As an example I always try to look out for people but deep in my sub conscious I know it's in my instincts to put my self first, if you think your different, you're wrong, it's what we are and what we will always be, we will never be perfect. Isn't that even stated in the bible that everyman is with sin?

As an example I'll use racism, EVERYBODY is a little bit racist, as shitty as it is to say. Any one who is not exactly like you, deep in your mind you will have some resentment against them. As soon as we are aware of our flaws the sooner we can get over them.

I've seen Bohemian Grove, do you believe everything you see? Very contradicting if you are with this info war movement, isn't that what it's all about?

To Freeski, you're taking everything I say and turn it around. We're stuck together whether we like it or not. Are you hoping for a God to come down and govern our world and tell us what is right? If you are you'll be very disappointed. One day Humanity will have to work together in a one world government. Like I said it could be a very bad thing or a very good thing. Either way if there is some sort of global revolution as in people who believe in freedom vs. "sheeps" you don't think a new world order will emerge from that, no matter who wins? A NWO shouldn't be forced onto people, and if it is it's missing the point. I'm not saying we will see it in our lifetime BUT eventually one will come for better or for worse.

[Freeski]

I not only choose, but demand, liberty -- and that means no one gets to dictate any aspect of my life so long as I respect that same right for everyone else. That's the change we need in this world: a re-awakening of the spirit of 1776 and an end to all of this top-down one-size-fits-all control.

Traveling Down the Road to Serfdom: History of Socialism from Marx to Obama
Presented by Yuri N. Maltsev at "The Delusion of Good Government": the Mises Circle in Colorado Springs, Colorado; 18 September 2010.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mb5555PCfU
30 min.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=220569.0