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I recieved the following email which maybe of interest to some, wondering what your thoughts are:
community Alert and Bulletin August 11, 2011 Another health scam has started while I wasn't looking. Here's what I just wrote about it in a new article on my website. If it weren't real, it would be funny. What are these people thinking?
Because I am a health consultant, I constantly get email (and sometimes even phone) offers to sell naturopathic products on my website (which I do not do, although I sometimes endorse certain products or vendors in my health guides). One came in recently that seemed like it might be a good product, so I requested more information about it. It claimed to have a larger collection of minerals than usual multi-mineral supplements, so I wanted to see what they were.
The product literature, from a company called Youngevity headed by a Dr. Wallach (a veterinarian), was cheerful, brightly-colored, and convincing that this was the ideal mineral supplement, packaged in drinks or little easy-to-use powder packets. Beyond Tangy Tangerine, American Longevity Cheri-mins, and American Longevity Osteo fx. Then I started to read the list of minerals: calcium, chloride (well, not a mineral, but I'll overlook it), magnesium, phosphorus, potassium, sodium, sulfur, aluminum hydroxide..
What? Why would you include aluminum hydroxide in a mineral supplement mix? Aluminum was removed from most over-the-counter products years ago during the first Alzheimer's scare. But then, as I continued to read the list (in VERY small print, I might add), my hair began to stand on edge...
Antimony, Arsenic...
ARSENIC??? They added the neurotoxin arsenic to a mineral drink? Why?
At that point, I scanned the list for other neurotoxins. Sure enough, the list included cadmium, mercury and lead. And fluoride, to boot. I was dumbfounded. Why on earth would a company purposely include the most horrible neurotoxins that we have been attempting to remove from our environments for years? I asked the person who had sent me the information how on earth these neurotoxins had gotten into the products he sold, and I got no reply. So I did a little bit of research, and found the answer.
"Plant-derived" = From a MINE!
These so-called "plant-derived" minerals are apparently from the TJ Clark Mine in Utah. The reason they are called "plant-derived" is that the mine has ancient plant matter that did not undergo complete fossilization, and they use the soft, crumbly material from this mine for their products. It is sold by several companies, among them TJ Clark and Youngevity, and sold under several other company names, with the "plant-derived minerals" or "colloidal mineral" designation.
Here's the problem, and perhaps they are so clueless they don't realize it: during sedimentation - when plant matter begins to become rock - it absorbs and fixes minerals that are not necessarily good for you - among them, the heavy metal neurotoxins mercury, cadmium, arsenic, and lead, plus the Alzheimer's-promoting combination of aluminum and fluorides.
Whatever the reason, selling health products that have known neurotoxins in them is just wrong. Please avoid these products. If you have taken them already, have blood test and hair tests done to see if you have been contaminated. If you believe you have associated health problems, sue your distributor.
Please take a high-quality multivitamin/multi-mineral supplement, such as Life Extension Foundation Two-Per-Day Tablets. This will give you the minerals you need, without jeopardizing your health. Regards Jonathan
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2011, 01:30:28 PM » |
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ya is Dr Wallach stuff safe?
does he ever give an in depth analysis of the products he sells
I noticed there is no ingredients list on the site to buy the veterinarians products
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 12:58:32 AM » |
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I wouldn't touch this topic with a 10ft pole, last time someone posted something bad about those suppliments, everyone in the thread got banned... even the people trying to determine if the levels of the "bad stuff" were anywhere near dangerous.
On that note, I can't confirm, but I remember reading that there are certain variations of heavy metals that can help to pull out the heavy metals from the body (doesn't really make sense to me) ie: there are variants of lead that can attach to the "bad lead" and then float it out of the body (sounds like hocus pocus to me).
Not sure if these products are safe.... I tried the product, its "ok" i didn't feel anything special really....
personally, i think the best vitamins and minerals etc for the average male to have is just simple -Magnesium -Selenium -Zinc ALL the B vitamins (tons of energy/makes you immune to everything under the sun) -Protein, tons and tons of protein from every source imaginable
... Ill leave my comment at that.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 07:02:21 AM » |
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From Dr. Wallach's website FAQ's: I have heard that the products Dr. Wallach recommends contain potentially harmful materials such as arsenic, lead, aluminum and cadmium. Is this true? If so, should I be concerned? Majestic Earth Minerals are a �full spectrum' organic colloidal mineral supplement. The term �full spectrum' refers to the fact that Majestic Earth Minerals come directly from plants grown in soil containing a full or complete range of elements: from Aluminum and Antimony to Yttrium and Zirconium. There are elements in the Majestic Earth minerals one would not dream of ingesting in a granular or metallic form. Lead, for example, cadmium, mercury, arsenic. In an organically bound form, however, in trace amounts, many of these same elements play an important role in the body's bio-chemistry. Arsenic, for example, helps facilitate neonatal growth and plays a part in metabolizing selenium, an element proven to be crucial to the health of the heart muscle. In a metallic form, on the other hand, arsenic can be deadly. In fact, it is 65 times more toxic than organically bound arsenic. Many people worry about ingesting too much aluminum. It is associated with Alzheimer's Disease, after all. Yet what many do not realize is that fully 12% of the earth's crust consists of aluminum bound typically to either oxygen or silica. One can not buy a fruit, grain, nut, vegetable, etc. at any market that does not contain trace amounts of organically bound aluminum. Another interesting fact is that due to the electro magnetic charge of organically bound minerals they cannot be stored in the body for longer than about 6 to 8 hours, thus they never create any sort of toxic overload. Minerals that come from inorganic sources such as rocks, clays and sea water can accumulate in the soft tissue of the body. Some plant- sourced minerals have been found to actually remove their heavy metal counterparts. For example, going back to aluminum, aluminum is very effective in not only cleansing the body at the cellular level but also in assisting it to remove any metallic aluminum that might be present. http://majesticearth-minerals.com/faq.php#18
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 07:49:08 AM » |
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On that note, I can't confirm, but I remember reading that there are certain variations of heavy metals that can help to pull out the heavy metals from the body (doesn't really make sense to me) ie: there are variants of lead that can attach to the "bad lead" and then float it out of the body (sounds like hocus pocus to me).
This has to do with the electro-magnetic charge of the substance in question... opposites attract. Conventional science typically ignores this concept (in food), as it does with the whole isolate subject. Most multi-vitamin supplements you can get at a grocery store are comprised of isolates, making them far less useful to the body than they could be otherwise. My favorite way to explaining this to people is with cyanide. There is a reason nature has wrapped apple seeds with a large amount of fibrous fruit (the apple). See, if you eat a cup of apple seeds, you'd die from cyanide poisoning because even though the cyanide contained in the seeds is naturally bound, you're still WAY overdoing it. However, if you tried to eat that same amount of seeds from eating the whole of the apples (seeds and all), you'd be full far before you reached a toxic amount. To take that argument further, it would actually negate whatever claims might be made by products such as those Dr. Wallach sells (which I like, actually). We don't typically eat dirt... "magestic" or otherwise. Instead, we grow food in that dirt and get our nutrients from the veggies and fruits. Same concept really, but less of a dramatic difference due to the way the minerals are bound in the soil and mixed with plant material. Dr. Wallach's products are safe. However, nothing is more healthy than getting your nutrients from high quality organic foods grown in nutrient-rich soils. Try as we might, there is simply no substitute that equals nature's balance.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 08:10:04 AM » |
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This has to do with the electro-magnetic charge of the substance in question... opposites attract.
Conventional science typically ignores this concept (in food), as it does with the whole isolate subject. Most multi-vitamin supplements you can get at a grocery store are comprised of isolates, making them far less useful to the body than they could be otherwise.
My favorite way to explaining this to people is with cyanide. There is a reason nature has wrapped apple seeds with a large amount of fibrous fruit (the apple). See, if you eat a cup of apple seeds, you'd die from cyanide poisoning because even though the cyanide contained in the seeds is naturally bound, you're still WAY overdoing it. However, if you tried to eat that same amount of seeds from eating the whole of the apples (seeds and all), you'd be full far before you reached a toxic amount.
To take that argument further, it would actually negate whatever claims might be made by products such as those Dr. Wallach sells (which I like, actually). We don't typically eat dirt... "magestic" or otherwise. Instead, we grow food in that dirt and get our nutrients from the veggies and fruits. Same concept really, but less of a dramatic difference due to the way the minerals are bound in the soil and mixed with plant material.
Dr. Wallach's products are safe. However, nothing is more healthy than getting your nutrients from high quality organic foods grown in nutrient-rich soils. Try as we might, there is simply no substitute that equals nature's balance.
Very well said!
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 08:24:00 AM » |
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I wouldn't touch this topic with a 10ft pole, last time someone posted something bad about those suppliments, everyone in the thread got banned... even the people trying to determine if the levels of the "bad stuff" were anywhere near dangerous.
On that note, I can't confirm, but I remember reading that there are certain variations of heavy metals that can help to pull out the heavy metals from the body (doesn't really make sense to me) ie: there are variants of lead that can attach to the "bad lead" and then float it out of the body (sounds like hocus pocus to me).
Not sure if these products are safe.... I tried the product, its "ok" i didn't feel anything special really....
personally, i think the best vitamins and minerals etc for the average male to have is just simple -Magnesium -Selenium -Zinc ALL the B vitamins (tons of energy/makes you immune to everything under the sun) -Protein, tons and tons of protein from every source imaginable
... Ill leave my comment at that.
I remember that happening also - but you have a good list of vitamins listed for men.
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 07:32:00 PM » |
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Dr. Wallach's products are safe. However, nothing is more healthy than getting your nutrients from high quality organic foods grown in nutrient-rich soils. Try as we might, there is simply no substitute that equals nature's balance.
The only problem is the soils are so depleted, that even if you get organic vegetables, they've got less nutritional value than the same produce had 50 years ago. Adding a good supplement regimen to eating organic is the way to go, and juicing of course.
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2011, 07:44:59 PM » |
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The only problem is the soils are so depleted, that even if you get organic vegetables, they've got less nutritional value than the same produce had 50 years ago. Adding a good supplement regimen to eating organic is the way to go, and juicing of course.
Soil nutrient depletion is not permanent, and certainly not widespread. Monoculture farming has rendered a lot of commercial farmland less than ideal, sure, but your home garden can be made nutrient-rich by any number of measures... composing, for one. Same goes for land free to use for co-ops. I agree, supplements have their place, but they shouldn't be used as a crutch if you could just as well improve your garden/field soils.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 06:07:21 AM » |
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Supplements are just that--supplements. The definition is: "Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole."
You should only use supplements when you know you are deficient of certain minerals and nutrients.
There are other things one can do before you supplement your body:
1. Get your blood tested to see if you are, in fact, deficient in something or a lot of things. 2. Have your soil tested for deficiencies. 3. Eat organic as much as possible. 4. Drink filtered water that can take out poisons like: chlorine and fluorides.
It is critical that you eat right and exercise and sleep well, that will help you keep your body in tip-top shape. Our bodies are really a unique ecosystem all to itself. It's healing powers are incredible if you have the proper nutrients and minerals in your food sources.
If you know you are deficient in something then you need to find the best supplement, and I think Dr. Wallach's products are very good. I was deficient in a couple of areas and by supplementing with Dr. Wallach's "Tangy Tangerine," I was able to, within six months, bring up my deficiencies to the right numbers and where I should be and I feel great! Again have your blood tested to know if everything is copacetic.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 12:43:41 PM » |
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Soil nutrient depletion is not permanent, and certainly not widespread. Monoculture farming has rendered a lot of commercial farmland less than ideal, sure, but your home garden can be made nutrient-rich by any number of measures... composing, for one. Same goes for land free to use for co-ops.
I agree, supplements have their place, but they shouldn't be used as a crutch if you could just as well improve your garden/field soils.
I don't know if you remember this or not but about 2 maybe 3 years ago there was testing done on different parts of the world's soil and they found it depleted (at different levels) of minerals. They found the most natural way to put it back in your soil was to add "rock" to the soil. I'll see if I can find those articles. The test they ran before and after were quite amazing.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 05:18:33 PM » |
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I don't know if you remember this or not but about 2 maybe 3 years ago there was testing done on different parts of the world's soil and they found it depleted (at different levels) of minerals. They found the most natural way to put it back in your soil was to add "rock" to the soil. I'll see if I can find those articles.
The test they ran before and after were quite amazing.
Try planting in North Texas... soil nutrient repletion is almost paramount and that need is not necessarily due to depletion by human intervention. It's because of high clay content. Turn it, churn it, and mix with your own compost... it's not uncommon. You can also enrich using suspensions and tinctures in your watering scheme. Root depth is also something to consider. Testing soils to 4-6 inches down doesn't tell you much if you root system will go to 12+ inches, right? I'm not talking commercial farming, but a manageable size plot that you and/or a co-op group can handle. And yes, "rock" is good, so long as it's the right kind... rocks are made of minerals, and soft rock that is comprised of the right minerals is great for near-site leech-beds for controlled repletion.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 11:48:05 PM » |
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Try planting in North Texas... soil nutrient repletion is almost paramount and that need is not necessarily due to depletion by human intervention. It's because of high clay content. Turn it, churn it, and mix with your own compost... it's not uncommon. You can also enrich using suspensions and tinctures in your watering scheme. Root depth is also something to consider. Testing soils to 4-6 inches down doesn't tell you much if you root system will go to 12+ inches, right?
I'm not talking commercial farming, but a manageable size plot that you and/or a co-op group can handle.
And yes, "rock" is good, so long as it's the right kind... rocks are made of minerals, and soft rock that is comprised of the right minerals is great for near-site leech-beds for controlled repletion.
Right exactly - Im looking for that article - they mention the correct rock to use. Yes clay is no fun - south is full of it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2011, 07:57:40 AM » |
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Right exactly - Im looking for that article - they mention the correct rock to use. Yes clay is no fun - south is full of it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 08:06:00 AM » |
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So I am looking to donate to the infowar. Does Alex Jones profit from selling these vitamins on infowarsteam.com?
My next question are these vitamins cheaper than going to vitamin shop and buying quality Magnesium, Selenium, Zinc, B vitamins, Fish Oil, vitamin D?
I plan on ordering protein from trueprotein.com since wallach doesn't sell protein.
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2011, 08:42:41 AM » |
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So I am looking to donate to the infowar. Does Alex Jones profit from selling these vitamins on infowarsteam.com?
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=198270.0My next question are these vitamins cheaper than going to vitamin shop and buying quality Magnesium, Selenium, Zinc, B vitamins, Fish Oil, vitamin D?
Well, I cannot say these supplements/drinks are cheaper but they are a good quality. I, personally, use the Tangy Tangerine and Pollen Burst and got all my vitamin and mineral levels up to where they are suppose to be for me. I would suggest that everyone get blood tested to see if or what their bodies may be deficient in before taking supplements. I plan on ordering protein from trueprotein.com since wallach doesn't sell protein.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=200350.0
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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2011, 09:04:46 AM » |
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Alright I did research and it actually would be cheaper for me. I'm almost convinced into buying this because I get to support AJ too. I have concerns about maltodextrin. wallach's product actually looks superior to others too! I did more investigating and tangy tangerine contains maltodextrin. http://www.wallachonline.com/products.aspxAccording to Dr. Mercola another respected nutritionist, your body can turn maltodextrin into MSG http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/21/msg-is-this-silent-killer-lurking-in-your-kitchen-cabinets.aspxI bring this up now because the first site I linked to has the nutrition label and its the first time I've seen it. alex jones sales site should put it up too, so people can see the nutritional value, probably increase sales. I am just concerned about the maltodextrin. hopefully someone here can clear any possible misconceptions about the maltodextrin?
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2011, 09:25:33 AM » |
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Alright I did research and it actually would be cheaper for me. I'm almost convinced into buying this because I get to support AJ too. I have concerns about maltodextrin. wallach's product actually looks superior to others too! I did more investigating and tangy tangerine contains maltodextrin. http://www.wallachonline.com/products.aspxAccording to Dr. Mercola another respected nutritionist, your body can turn maltodextrin into MSG http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/21/msg-is-this-silent-killer-lurking-in-your-kitchen-cabinets.aspxI bring this up now because the first site I linked to has the nutrition label and its the first time I've seen it. alex jones sales site should put it up too, so people can see the nutritional value, probably increase sales. I am just concerned about the maltodextrin. hopefully someone here can clear any possible misconceptions about the maltodextrin? Mindframe, That is definitely a reason for concern! I do not like maltodextrin and I am going to research that myself. I am highly sensitive to MSG and it gives me excruciating migraines--that are blinding! Thank you for bringing it to my attention!! I will have to get back with you after I do some extensive research...
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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2011, 09:28:49 AM » |
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i have not really researched maltodextrin at all, hopefully someone can clear this up b/c I think wallach may have a great product and If/when I buy it I plan to discuss my results on the forum.
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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2011, 11:40:32 AM » |
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i have not really researched maltodextrin at all, hopefully someone can clear this up b/c I think wallach may have a great product and If/when I buy it I plan to discuss my results on the forum.
I have researched and cross referenced maltrodextrin, and this article below is one guideline I will stick with. Just remember use discernment when you use something that has maltrodextrin--because maltrodextrin can be made in any lab. By that I mean, if it is in a boxed food or prepared food, I would think twice about consuming it. Cooking Down Maltodextrin http://www.janethull.com/newsletter/0908/cooking_down_maltodextrin.phpIn my business of sweetener safety, maltodextrin is a word that comes up a lot. It is found everywhere, and to be perfectly honest, it is commonly found in all forms of sweeteners; the good, the bad, and the ugly. Maltodextrin is considered a mildly sweet polysaccharide, or a sweet starch. Maltodextrin can be derived from any starch, but in the US, it is usually made from rice, corn, or potato starch, and is produced by cooking down the starch. During the cooking process, which is often referred to as a hydrolysis of starch, its own natural enzymes and acids help to break down the high starch content. The end result is a simple carb white powder that contains roughly four calories per gram, and extremely small amounts of fiber, fat, and protein. Maltodextrin can be either moderately sweet to really having hardly any flavor at all. Maltodextrin more accurately means a family of products, not a single distinct ingredient. It is usually found as a creamy-white powder, and is supposed to be easily digestible, but it is absorbed as rapidly as glucose. Actually, maltodextrin is a short chain of linked glucose molecules, and is manufactured by regulating the hydrolysis of starch. Today, commercial products that contain maltodextrin list it as an ingredient no matter the original source of the starch; corn, wheat, rice or potato. It is used in a wide array of foods, from canned fruits to snacks, and is used as a filler in the single-serve, table-top packets of the common artificial sweeteners. Most all starches are insoluble in water. They can be digested by hydrolysis and by digestive enzymes called amylases, which break the bonds. Humans and other animals naturally have amylases, so they can digest starches. Potato, rice, wheat, and maize are major sources of starch in the human diet. Hydrolysis is a term used to describe the overall process where starch is converted into various sweeteners. Sweetener products made by cornstarch hydrolysis include dextrose, corn syrup, corn syrup solids, maltodextrin, high fructose corn syrup, and crystalline fructose. The use of maltodextrin with other sweeteners serves merely as a filler, but it does add calories to the brands of artificial sweeteners sold. And remember that any food product that has 5 or fewer calories per serving can be labeled as containing "0" calories. So, diabetics must remember to count these starch-based sweeteners (maltodextrin) as part of their carbohydrate consumption since insulin is required for their metabolism, and the artificial sweeteners do have hidden calories from carbs. And remember that maltodextrin is absorbed as rapidly as glucose. Let's get into the science of maltodextrin for just a brief paragraph or two: The polysaccharides (starches) are considered to be polymers, and this means that monosaccharides result from their processing, and these have been joined together using the elimination of water. Note: "with the elimination of water" - this signals dehydration. This is what makes maltodextrin a handy additive for sugar packets, artificial sweeteners, and products with sugars and/or sweeteners added to them. Polysaccharides typically form linear or branched chains. They include the storage substances glycogen and starch, and the structural substance cellulose. They are relatively insoluble, typically not sweet, and are considered complex carbohydrates. They are polymers made up of many monosaccharides joined together by glycosidic bonds. They are therefore, very large, often branched, macromolecules. They tend to be a perfect filler for powdered sweeteners and dry goods. So, is maltodextrin harmful to human health? Well, it is not a toxin like the methanol in aspartame or the chlorine in Splenda, but maltodextrin is a processed additive, and the less processed elements in your food and drink, the better. Maltodextrin is typically added to many products with other chemical ingredients, and these typically have even more chemicals added for flavor enhancers, colorings, and preservation. So where maltodextrin is found, more chemicals are commonly included. They are in instant puddings, instant breakfast products, some peanut butters, packaged gravies, and other prepackaged products. Highly processed foods typically contain a slew of other chemicals unnecessary for human consumption, such as MSG, which causes an adverse reaction in many people. Maltodextrin can be derived from any starch, and in the US, this starch is usually rice, corn or potato. In Europe, it is commonly wheat. This is important for persons with Celiac Disease, since the wheat-derived maltodextrin can contain traces of gluten. There have been recent reports of celiac reactions to maltodextrin in the United States, so if you require a gluten-free diet, avoid foods with maltodextrin. My basic belief is that we are adding far too many chemicals to our foods as fillers, such as maltodextrin. The addition of these manufactured additives are really not necessary to the health of the consumer, and are added primarily for profit in manufacturing. It is always best to avoid products with a list of additives, and I advise purchasing products with as few ingredients as possible. But maltodextrin is not a health danger to those with healthy digestive systems; just try to keep that list of foods to a minimum. We are naive if we think we can avoid exposure to maltodextrin, and in most cases, it is not a great health concern. But, if you are diabetic or have Celiac Disease, avoid it when possible. There are so many other chemicals we do need to be concerned about; aspartame, sucralose, neotame, MSG, chemical food colorings, high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, and a growing list of toxic pharmaceuticals. Prioritize your poisons - maltodextrin is at the bottom of my list of toxins for the normal, healthy consumer. Simply read your labels, and modify the amount of maltodextrin you consume.
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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2011, 11:57:14 AM » |
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alright I plan to purchase tangy tangerine
I have another question about his EFA 60 product because it comes from flax seed oil. Doesn't flax seed oil have phytoESTROGENS in it? Isn't fish oil superior because the omegas are more bio-available?
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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2011, 12:10:45 PM » |
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also flax seed has trace amounts of cyanide, but i dont think this is much of a concern phytoestrogens and bioavailability are a concern though I realize EFA also contains borage oil but i found this: http://www.level1diet.com/fish-vs-flax-oil.htmlsounds good i think i am gonna check it out
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« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2011, 12:25:27 PM » |
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alright I plan to purchase tangy tangerine
I have another question about his EFA 60 product because it comes from flax seed oil. Doesn't flax seed oil have phytoESTROGENS in it? Isn't fish oil superior because the omegas are more bio-available?
http://majesticearth-minerals.com/ultimateEFA.phpFlax like all plants contains estrogenic substances. These compounds are known as phytoestrogens, such as resveratrol, and flavonoids, such as quercetin and rutin. Some plants are higher in these substances than others. Flax is one of the highest sources of phytoestrogens though I have seen being twice as high as soybeans. Phytoestrogens though are not bad. In fact they help protect us from the dangerous effects of excess estrogens in the body and the even more dangerous xenoestrogens. http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1445903#iI think the problem with soy is not soy itself, it is the GMO side that is more of a concern. But Soy, IMHO is more of an estrogen mimicker than flak is. Fermented soy is a lot safer too. Again, I err to using extreme amounts of flak seed products as I would about soy. I also like Krill oil better than fish oil as a general rule.
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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2011, 02:56:07 PM » |
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according to ori hofmekler author of anti-estrogen diet, flaxseeds actually stop/reduce excess-estrogen in all people
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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2011, 04:24:30 PM » |
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I've been using Tangy Tangerine and the EFA tablets for almost 6 months, and I can say they are great. I feel a noticeable elevation in how I feel, and how my body performs.
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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2011, 04:37:56 PM » |
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according to ori hofmekler author of anti-estrogen diet, flaxseeds actually stop/reduce excess-estrogen in all people
Donnay is correct on this one. Flax seeds are the "highest" producer of Phytoestrogen. There are better alternative to begin with. Phytoestrogen food sources Phytoestrogen content (mcg/100g aprox. 4 ounces) Flax seed 379,380 Soy beans 103,920 Tofu 27,150.1 Soy yogurt 10,275 Sesame seed 8008.1 Flax bread 7540 Multigrain bread 4798.7 Soy milk 2957.2 Hummus 993 Garlic 603.6 Mung bean sprouts 495.1 Dried apricots 444.5 Alfalfa sprouts 441.4 Dried dates 329.5 Sunflower seed 216 Chestnuts 210.2 Olive Oil 180.7 Almonds 131.1 Green bean 105.8 Peanuts 34.5 Onion 32 Blueberry 17.5 Corn 9 Coffee, regular 6.3 Watermelon 2.9 Milk, cow 1.2 Food Items Lignan content (mcg/100g) Total phytoestrogen (mcg/100g) Vegtables Lignans Estrogen Soy Bean Sprouts 2.0 789.6 Garlic 583.2 603.6 Winter Squash 113.3 113.7 Green Beans 66.8 105.8 Collards 97.8 101.3 Broccoli 93.9 94.1 Cabbage 79.1 80 Fruits Dried prunes 177.5 183.5 Peaches 61.8 64.5 Strawberry 48.9 51.6 Rasberry 37.7 47.6 Watermelon 2.9 2.9 Nuts and other legume seeds Pistachios 198.9 382.5 Chestnuts 186.6 210.2 Walnuts 85.7 139.5 Cashews 99.4 121.9 Hazel Nuts 77.1 107.5 Lentils 26.6 36.5 Beverages Wine, red 37.3 53.9 Tea, green 12 13 Wine, white 8 12.7 Tea, black 8.1 8.9 Coffee, decaf 4.8 5.5 Beer 1.1 2.7 Other Black bean souce 10.5 5330.3 Black licorice 415.1 862.7 Bread, rye 142.9 146.3 Phytoestrogen data source: Thompson, L. U., Boucher, B. A., Lui, Z., Cotterchio, M., and Kreiger, N. 2006. Phytoestrogen content of foods consumed in Canada, including isoflavones, lignans and coumestan. Nutrition and Cancer, 54(2), 184-201. Additional references: Cassidy A. Potential risks and benefits of phytoestrogen-rich diets.Int J Vitam Nutr Res. 2003 Mar;73(2):120-6. Ganry O. Phytoestrogens and prostate cancer risk. Prev Med. 2005 Jul;41(1):1-6.
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2011, 08:24:27 AM » |
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Donnay is correct on this one. Flax seeds are the "highest" producer of Phytoestrogen. There are better alternative to begin with.
Phytoestrogen food sources Phytoestrogen content (mcg/100g aprox. 4 ounces)
Flax seed 379,380 Soy beans 103,920 Tofu 27,150.1 Soy yogurt 10,275 Sesame seed 8008.1 Flax bread 7540 Multigrain bread 4798.7 Soy milk 2957.2 Hummus 993 Garlic 603.6 Mung bean sprouts 495.1 Dried apricots 444.5 Alfalfa sprouts 441.4 Dried dates 329.5 Sunflower seed 216 Chestnuts 210.2 Olive Oil 180.7 Almonds 131.1 Green bean 105.8 Peanuts 34.5 Onion 32 Blueberry 17.5 Corn 9 Coffee, regular 6.3 Watermelon 2.9 Milk, cow 1.2
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Lignan content (mcg/100g) Total phytoestrogen (mcg/100g) Vegtables Lignans Estrogen Soy Bean Sprouts 2.0 789.6 Garlic 583.2 603.6 Winter Squash 113.3 113.7 Green Beans 66.8 105.8 Collards 97.8 101.3 Broccoli 93.9 94.1 Cabbage 79.1 80 Fruits Dried prunes 177.5 183.5 Peaches 61.8 64.5 Strawberry 48.9 51.6 Rasberry 37.7 47.6 Watermelon 2.9 2.9 Nuts and other legume seeds Pistachios 198.9 382.5 Chestnuts 186.6 210.2 Walnuts 85.7 139.5 Cashews 99.4 121.9 Hazel Nuts 77.1 107.5 Lentils 26.6 36.5 Beverages Wine, red 37.3 53.9 Tea, green 12 13 Wine, white 8 12.7 Tea, black 8.1 8.9 Coffee, decaf 4.8 5.5 Beer 1.1 2.7 Other Black bean souce 10.5 5330.3 Black licorice 415.1 862.7 Bread, rye 142.9 146.3
Phytoestrogen data source: Thompson, L. U., Boucher, B. A., Lui, Z., Cotterchio, M., and Kreiger, N. 2006. Phytoestrogen content of foods consumed in Canada, including isoflavones, lignans and coumestan. Nutrition and Cancer, 54(2), 184-201.
Additional references: Cassidy A. Potential risks and benefits of phytoestrogen-rich diets.Int J Vitam Nutr Res. 2003 Mar;73(2):120-6.
Ganry O. Phytoestrogens and prostate cancer risk. Prev Med. 2005 Jul;41(1):1-6.
yeah but flax seeds still protect you from excess estrogen also alex jones should get dr. wallach on again and what is dr. mercola's opinion on colloidal minerals and dr wallach?
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