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Author Topic: Ron Paul Rising!!!! MI 4th / CA beats Fred / SC tied Rudy / NJ tied for 3rd!  (Read 2704 times)
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« on: January 12, 2008, 11:06:26 PM »

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/republican_primaries.html

Poll: RCP Average

Date: 01/09 to 01/12

McCain: 25.3

Romney: 26.2

Huckabee: 16.0

Paul: 6.3


Giuliani: 5.7

Thompson: 5.3

Can someone post a screenshot of the chart?
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2008, 11:09:38 PM »

Detroit News
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080112/POLITICS/801120436

Mitchell Research   
http://www.mitchellinteractive.com/

Detroit Free Press   
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080112/NEWS06/80112066

American Res. Group   
http://americanresearchgroup.com/

Mason-Dixon
http://www.kansascity.com/153/story/442508.html

Rasmussen   
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/michigan/election_2008_michigan_republican_primary
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2008, 11:13:51 PM »

BTW - RP not included in California or New Jersey Polls even though he has more votes so far than Giuliani or Thompson
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2008, 11:14:18 PM »

Ron Paul should do well in Michigan.  Jobs is problem #1 in MI. Depends on who controls the Liebold machines!
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2008, 11:37:00 PM »




Hack of Michigan's voting machines

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5yH78elt7I

Some Michigan voting machines same as Colorado's
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/POLITICS/712190435/1022/POLITICS
Wednesday, December 19, 2007
Paul Egan / The Detroit News

Some Michigan communities use equipment of the same type and by the same manufacturer singled out as having problems in Colorado and Ohio.

But despite troubles with the system elsewhere, "we're comfortable with the equipment that we have," said Kelly Chesney, a spokeswoman for Michigan Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land.

"It goes through federal testing that is quite rigorous," and the state regularly performs its own tests, she said Tuesday.

Michigan uses voting machines made by Diebold Election Systems (now known as Premier Election Solutions); Sequoia Voting Systems; and Election Systems and Software (ES&S), Chesney said.

The ES&S M100 voting system is used throughout Wayne and Oakland counties and in parts of Macomb County, according to the Michigan Secretary of State Web site.

All of Michigan's voting equipment is optical scan equipment, rather than the electronic voting machines that have been associated with many of the reported problems in other states.

However, optical scan equipment made by ES&S had reported problems in Colorado and Ohio.

ES&S optical scan equipment failed tests in Colorado, though at least some of the problems were related to programming errors, the Colorado Secretary of State reported.

In Ohio, ES&S optical scanners were "susceptible to attack at the polling location that could affect election integrity," according to a report commissioned by Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner.

All Premier voting equipment passed tests in Colorado as did optical scan machines made by Sequoia. Problems with Premier equipment in Ohio centered on electronic voting machines, not optical scan equipment.

In optical scan systems, the voter marks a ballot that is sent through a computer, which "reads" it.



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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2008, 08:52:49 AM »

I live in metro Detroit and there DEFINITELY is a buzz about RP! from yard signs, to freeway overpass signs, to talking with people etc....he still needs more people to wake up here, though.

can you post some pics, vids, tell us about the local radio stations?

is the local media talking about him.

Is there anything we can do to help?
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2008, 09:00:14 AM »

can you post some pics, vids, tell us about the local radio stations?

is the local media talking about him.

Is there anything we can do to help?

the local media here just reflects the national media - talking up the "big names" like Clinton, Romney, etc...and leaving out RP. i'll try to get some pics posted.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2008, 09:32:03 AM »

Are you aware that averaging polls means absolutely nothing?

Error is cumulative.

Meaning that if you average 6 polls, you add up all of the error from each poll and tag it on at the end.

So Ron Paul is at an average of 6 point whatever percent, plus or minus 24  to 30 percent.

Heh, just thought I would throw this out there for those not familiar with statistical analysis.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2008, 09:36:50 AM »

Are you aware that averaging polls means absolutely nothing?

Error is cumulative.

Meaning that if you average 6 polls, you add up all of the error from each poll and tag it on at the end.

So Ron Paul is at an average of 6 point whatever percent, plus or minus 24  to 30 percent.

Heh, just thought I would throw this out there for those not familiar with statistical analysis.

Btw, Lou Dobbs sent me a book for pointing this out to him on his show Wink
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2008, 09:39:49 AM »

Are you aware that averaging polls means absolutely nothing?

Error is cumulative.

Meaning that if you average 6 polls, you add up all of the error from each poll and tag it on at the end.

So Ron Paul is at an average of 6 point whatever percent, plus or minus 24  to 30 percent.

Heh, just thought I would throw this out there for those not familiar with statistical analysis.

Holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That means Ron Paul is #1 in Michigan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2008, 07:39:35 AM »

New Reuters Poll, Paul widening the gap!



http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/2008candidates
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2008, 12:42:45 AM »

Ron Paul Rising!!!! MI 4th / CA beats Fred / SC tied Rudy / NJ tied for 3rd!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/republican_primaries.html
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2008, 06:37:49 AM »

Michigan’s Republican Presidential Primary today could end up solidifying John McCain’s claim to be the Republican frontrunner or it could keep Mitt Romney’s campaign alive. Either way, it will help set the stage for Saturday when South Carolina hosts the first Election 2008 voting below the Mason-Dixon line.

Polling shows that the Michigan race will be determined primarily by turnout—a large share of Independent voters will mean good news for McCain while a smaller turnout from Independents might give Romney the victory he so desperately needs. Romney has tried to set expectations in an easier-to-achieve light by saying he will consider it a victory if he takes the most votes from among the Republicans who participate.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of the race found Romney with 26% of the vote, McCain with 25%, and Mike Huckabee with 17%. The survey was conducted last Wednesday night, immediately following the New Hampshire Primary. Several polls conducted since then have shed no light on the outcome. A few show McCain ahead while others show Romney on top. All show Mike Huckabee in third place and all show McCain leading among Independents likely to participate.

The Rasmussen Reports poll also found Fred Thompson with 9% support, Ron Paul with 8%, and Rudy Giuliani with 6%. Thompson is focusing on South Carolina’s Primary where he has gained ground over the past week. That primary is scheduled for Saturday. Giuliani is counting on a strong showing in Florida to launch his campaign. Polling released yesterday showed a four-way tie for the lead in Florida.

Nationally, McCain and Huckabee are pulling away from the rest of the field in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

Rasmussen Markets data also suggests that the Michigan race is too close to call but leans slightly in McCain’s direction. As of 6:00 a.m. Tuesday morning, the markets showed McCain with a 55% chance of winning and placed Romney’s prospects just under 45%. These figures are updated continuously throughout the day (current pricing: McCain 56.0% Romney 45.0%). Numbers in this paragraph are from a prediction market, not a poll. Using a trading format where players "buy and sell" candidates, issues, and news futures, RasmussenMarkets.com harnesses competitive passions to become a reliable leading indicator of upcoming events. Prospects for other candidates and other races are featured on the Rasmussen Markets Summary page. We invite you to participate in the Rasmussen Markets. It costs nothing to join and add your voice to the collective wisdom of the market.

The markets show that McCain was heavily favored a week ago but Romney’s prospects have improved somewhat in recent days.

In Michigan, Romney is viewed favorably by 71% of Likely Primary Voters. Sixty-nine percent (69%) have a favorable opinion of McCain. For Giuilani 64% offer a positive assessment, Huckabee gets good reviews from 59%, Thompson from 57%, and Paul from 33%.

McCain is seen as the most electable candidate. Seventy-two percent (72%) say he would be somewhat or very likely to win the White House if nominated. That figure includes 30% who consider McCain Very Likely to win if nominated.

Romney is close on the electability front—67% think he would be at least somewhat likely to win including 25% who rate his prospects as Very Likely.

Electability used to be the strongest suit for Giuliani among Republican Primary voters. However, in Michigan, just 49% think he would be even Somewhat Likely to win if nominated.

Forty-six percent (46%) say Huckabee would be at least somewhat likely to win in November, 33% say the same about Thompson, and 17% believe Paul would have a chance.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/michigan/election_2008_michigan_republican_primary
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2008, 05:00:16 PM »

Forgive me if this is a stupid question but did the South Carolina primary already take place? I thought it was a few days ago but haven't seen any coverage online, results or anything! If so, how did Ron Paul do?

nope, only 3 states so far...

Iowa - RP 10%

Wyoming I can't figure that state out, but it has almost no delegates

NH - RP 5th (we think)

SC is on Saturday I think
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2008, 05:01:32 PM »

Details for the S.C. GOP primary
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/08/details_for_the_sc_gop_primary/
By The Associated Press  January 8, 2008


Next stop: South Carolina Republican primary on Saturday, Jan. 19.

At stake: 24 GOP delegates. The national party stripped 23 delegates from South Carolina because the state broke party rules when it moved its primary before Feb. 5.

Polls show: Mike Huckabee leads in several polls; one has him tied with Rudy Giuliani.

2004: George W. Bush won the state with 53 percent in the presidential election.
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