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In tonights new episode a Ron Paul 2008 sticker can be seen while flipping through Gale's lab notes. Whether this is good or not can kind of be debated. The character is a professional chemist who synthesizes Methamphetamine and while that description may seem negative the character is a 'good guy' in the show and is portrayed as an honest positive not to mention highly intelligent character. So who knows. I do know that the show's creator is extremely adamant about maintaining complete creative control. Only a brief flash of about 4 frames but it was very noticeable.  |
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2011, 01:32:38 AM » |
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LOL, yeah, I saw that too.
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2011, 02:12:45 AM » |
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I watch BB also. Gale also said something once about how his viewpoints are very libertarian and that he believes he is providing a market-based service since tweakers may as well get the purest form that can be made by them rather than garbage off the street.
I also noticed in tonight's episode now that you mention it, there was a tweaker guy rambling on about the porno scanners at the airports and the radiation levels. Don't know if this is good or bad, either. He also then started about the cow farts ruining the ozone.
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2011, 03:35:43 AM » |
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Yeah i also noticed the tweaker going on about the airport scanners. Not sure if it paints the issue only as something a strung out delusional individual would talk about or if it serves the purpose of subtly bringing the issue into peoples minds. I think it shows Vince Gilligan is aware of the issues and decided to subtly in the only way he could without making it too obvious interject these ideas into peoples minds through the show. If there was ever a show/network not totally under globalist control it's this one imo.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 08:27:55 PM » |
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Breaking Bad Watch closely at 1 minute in. *Ron Paul* name appears in a meth recipe cookbook. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckJvaKC6z-8------ Add to the above I briefly caught the end of a CNN Piers Morgan interview with Ron Paul, this day...August 15/11, approx. 6-7pm Pac. The camera angle made Mr. Paul look....off. As if it were a fish eye lense. Weak sauce. Anyone have the vid to this? |
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 09:41:03 PM » |
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From the link:
A&E's Breaking Bad Shows Ron Paul Supporters as METH HEADS!
A&E show Breaking Bad Shows Ron Paul Supporters as METH HEADS!!!!!! clearly they try to slip in the message that these are the kind of people voting for Ron Paul!
Who owns A&E?
General Electric
ABC Disney
Hearst Publishing
UPDATE: thanks to trainwreck, the show is from AMC, not A&E
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 09:57:32 PM » |
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The character who owned that notebook was an extremely intelligent libertarian who believed the war on drugs was a fraud and since somebody was going to cook meth anyway, it might as well be him because the quality would be better and the product (relatively) safer than any alternatives available locally in a state that borders Mexico. His name was Gale Boetticher, and he was a really interesting character. How often are Libertarians portrayed on TV as smart and down to earth as Gale was? Dr. Paul would not be offended in the least by the character, were he familiar with the plot and characters of the show. Much ado about nothing, methinks. With all due respect.
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 10:07:14 PM » |
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The character who owned that notebook was an extremely intelligent libertarian who believed the war on drugs was a fraud and since somebody was going to cook meth anyway, it might as well be him because the quality would be better and the product (relatively) safer than any alternatives available locally in a state that borders Mexico. His name was Gale Boetticher, and he was a really interesting character. How often are Libertarians portrayed on TV as smart and down to earth as Gale was? Dr. Paul would not be offended in the least by the character, were he familiar with the plot and characters of the show. Much ado about nothing, methinks. With all due respect.
If they want to expose how insane the war on drugs is, why don't they show that George Bush on behalf of the Queen Bitches and Dope, Inc. introduced much of the drug trade into the US...
George Bush, the CIA and Drugs in Central Americahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh2s7CpKQsQIn 1984, U.S. officials began receiving reports of Contra cocaine trafficking. Three officials told journalists that they considered these reports "reliable." Former Panamanian deputy health minister Dr. Hugo Spadafora, who had fought with the Contra army, outlined charges of cocaine trafficking to a prominent Panamanian official and was later found murdered. The charges linked the Contra trafficking to Sebastian Gonzalez Mendiola, who was charged with cocaine trafficking on November 26, 1984, in Costa Rica. Sale of arms to Iran in exchange for cash to be sent to Nicaranguan Contras was facilitated by Israel, in the CIA-approved operation underlying the Iran-Contra Affair. After bribing his way out of prison in Venezuela in September 1985, Luis Posada Carriles went directly to El Salvador to work on the illicit contra resupply operations being run by Lt. Col. Oliver North. Posada assumed the name "Ramon Medina", and worked as a deputy to another anti-Castro Cuban exile, Felix Rodriguez, who was in charge of a small airlift of arms and supplies to the contras in Southern Nicaragua. Rodriguez used the code name, Max Gomez. ...Posada and Rodriguez obtaining supplies for contra troops from a warehouse at Illopango airbase in San Salvador. In 1985, another Contra leader "told U.S. authorities that his group was being paid $50,000 by Colombian traffickers for help with a 100-kilo cocaine shipment and that the money would go 'for the cause' of fighting the Nicaraguan government." A 1985 National Intelligence Estimate revealed cocaine trafficking links to a top commander working under Contra leader Edén Pastora. Pastora had complained about such charges as early as March 1985, claiming that "two 'political figures' in Washington told him last week that State Department and CIA personnel were spreading the rumor that he is linked to drug trafficking in order to isolate his movement." On December 20, 1985, these and other charges were laid out in an Associated Press article after an extensive investigation which included interviews with "officials from the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Customs Service, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Costa Rica's Public Security Ministry, as well as rebels and Americans who work with them." Five American Contra supporters who worked with the rebels confirmed the charges, noting that "two Cuban-Americans used armed rebel troops to guard cocaine at clandestine airfields in northern Costa Rica. They identified the Cuban-Americans as members of the 2506 Brigade, an anti-Castro group that participated in the 1961 Bay of Pigs attack on Cuba. Several also said they supplied information about the smuggling to U.S. investigators." One of the Americans "said that in one ongoing operation, the cocaine is unloaded from planes at rebel airstrips and taken to an Atlantic coast port where it is concealed on shrimp boats that are later unloaded in the Miami area." On March 16, 1986, the San Francisco Examiner published a report on the "1983 seizure of 430 pounds of cocaine from a Colombian freighter" in San Francisco which indicated that a "cocaine ring in the San Francisco Bay area helped finance Nicaragua's Contra rebels." Carlos Cabezas, convicted of conspiracy to traffic cocaine, said that the profits from his crimes "belonged to... the Contra revolution." He told the Examiner, "I just wanted to get the Communists out of my country." Julio Zavala, also convicted on trafficking charges, said "that he supplied $500,000 to two Costa Rican-based Contra groups and that the majority of it came from cocaine trafficking in the San Francisco Bay area, Miami and New Orleans." Former CIA agent David MacMichael explained the inherent relationship between CIA activity in Latin America and drug trafficking: "Once you set up a covert operation to supply arms and money, it's very difficult to separate it from the kind of people who are involved in other forms of trade, and especially drugs. There is a limited number of planes, pilots and landing strips. By developing a system for supply of the Contras, the US built a road for drug supply into the US."
Why Does George W. Bush Fly in Drug Smuggler Barry Seal's Airplane?
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 07:29:21 AM » |
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Repost, but A&E DOES NOT own AMC....get your networks right. If you actually watched the show and knew the characters you'd be aware that the guy with the Ron Paul sticker was a GOOD GUY, someone the audience was rooting for and LIKED. So to the people watching this show this was definitely an endorsement for Dr. Paul. Despite the SPIN you put on it.
I think the show does a fine job exposing the War on Drugs, seeing as how the DEA agent is portrayed as borderline retarded and the 'drug dealers' are the protagonists.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 07:37:12 AM » |
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Clearly an attack on Ron Paul. I hope this gets exposed by AJ and others.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 07:38:46 AM » |
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Clearly an attack on Ron Paul. I hope this gets exposed by AJ and others.
Bs...you obviously don't watch the show....this is an endorsement to anyone who is familiar with the characters. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 07:42:03 AM » |
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Bs...you obviously don't watch the show....this is an endorsement to anyone who is familiar with the characters.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 07:43:41 AM » |
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The character who owned that notebook was an extremely intelligent libertarian who believed the war on drugs was a fraud and since somebody was going to cook meth anyway, it might as well be him because the quality would be better and the product (relatively) safer than any alternatives available locally in a state that borders Mexico. His name was Gale Boetticher, and he was a really interesting character. How often are Libertarians portrayed on TV as smart and down to earth as Gale was? Dr. Paul would not be offended in the least by the character, were he familiar with the plot and characters of the show. Much ado about nothing, methinks. With all due respect. Very well said. It goes to show how fast people can jump to conclusions when something is taken out of context. |
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2011, 07:44:26 AM » |
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Repost, but A&E DOES NOT own AMC....get your networks right. If you actually watched the show and knew the characters you'd be aware that the guy with the Ron Paul sticker was a GOOD GUY, someone the audience was rooting for and LIKED. So to the people watching this show this was definitely an endorsement for Dr. Paul. Despite the SPIN you put on it.
I think the show does a fine job exposing the War on Drugs, seeing as how the DEA agent is portrayed as borderline retarded and the 'drug dealers' are the protagonists.
Yup, AMC, the mistake about A&E was from the original link. Thanks for the info. But still, why don't they address the heart of the issue? Wouldn't that be better? It is not secret information, everybody knows it. |
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2011, 07:44:52 AM » |
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larsonstdoc, read apefist's reply.
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2011, 07:47:37 AM » |
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larsonstdoc, read apefist's reply.
Thank you Jenna. But why Ron Paul at this time? Why not Bush43 like Dig mentioned or somebody else? |
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2011, 07:52:58 AM » |
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Yup, AMC, the mistake about A&E was from the original link. Thanks for the info. But still, why don't they address the heart of the issue? Wouldn't that be better? It is not secret information, everybody knows it.
Why would a serious character drama do that? It's a very serious show and i happen to know the creator maintains STRICT control over every aspect of it. This was obviously his very subtle way of throwing a shout out to Ron Paul the only way he could without it seeming out of place....and even the brief 2 frame show of a bumper sticker seemed out of place for the show. People who like the show do not think badly of Paul if they noticed it trust me. I know how it looks to someone not familiar with the show. I don't watch very much T.V. because it is all brainwashing BS but this show is different, i seriously recommend it. The only reason this guy is cooking meth is because he got cancer and can not afford treatment and his insurance will not cover it...so in that manner it exposes how deeply affected people really are by this corrupt healthcare monopoly. I think if you watched the show you'd agree. |
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2011, 07:58:36 AM » |
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Thank you all for your info. Are there archives of the show on the internet?
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2011, 08:16:11 AM » |
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Thank you all for your info. Are there archives of the show on the internet?
I found it on Megavideo...of course you can only watch like 2 episodes a day for free. http://www.megavideo.com/?v=6V6QKGXNBut if you like it it's easy to torrent the rest. The show is quality though, real writing and acting is rare nowadays. |
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2011, 08:20:30 AM » |
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I found it on Megavideo...of course you can only watch like 2 episodes a day for free. http://www.megavideo.com/?v=6V6QKGXNBut if you like it it's easy to torrent the rest. The show is quality though, real writing and acting is rare nowadays. THANKS Trainwreck. Sorry I jumped the gun. |
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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2011, 08:27:11 AM » |
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Why would a serious character drama do that? It's a very serious show and i happen to know the creator maintains STRICT control over every aspect of it. This was obviously his very subtle way of throwing a shout out to Ron Paul the only way he could without it seeming out of place....and even the brief 2 frame show of a bumper sticker seemed out of place for the show. People who like the show do not think badly of Paul if they noticed it trust me. I know how it looks to someone not familiar with the show. I don't watch very much T.V. because it is all brainwashing BS but this show is different, i seriously recommend it. The only reason this guy is cooking meth is because he got cancer and can not afford treatment and his insurance will not cover it...so in that manner it exposes how deeply affected people really are by this corrupt healthcare monopoly. I think if you watched the show you'd agree.
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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2011, 08:28:52 AM » |
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It's alright i know how it looks...the show has been lauded for casting something that should be bad like being involved with drugs into something that kind of depends on the particular situation and particular individuals. It should really make people think twice about stereotyping people. None of the non drug audience knew it would be possible to like a meth cook. I litterally paused that episode as i was watching to make a thread about it here, i figured it might be misinterpreted. http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=214269.msg1278987#msg1278987well shit, now I gotta watch this damn thing!
guess it goes into faux controversies until a solid counter argument comes about.
Watch the first episode and i bet you get hooked. A+ Acting, writing and imagery...there's tons of things that are central to the plot that are only vaguely shown and you will miss if you're not paying attention or not observant, a show that makes you think to figure out what the hell is going on, who would have thought. |
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2011, 06:20:22 PM » |
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Honestly, it's the best show on TV for the past 4 years. It's up to episode 5 of season 4. The cliffhanger for season 3 was one of TV's finest, most intense moments. I'm glad to see this thread's concern was resolved. There are lots of different shows with sketchy motivations/production groups etc. It would just be a shame for this show to get lumped together with all the CIS's, NCIS's, Laws & Orders, etc. As for the comment of why they didn't go after Bush, understand this is a show of "extremely organized crime" where subtleties carry as much if not more weight than overt, over-the-top show-stopper scenes. However, there is a particularly poignant scene in--man, I wish I could remember when it was, but one of the previous seasons when a debate erupts at the dinner table between one of the main characters and his DEA agent bro-in-law talking about how the war on terror and the war on drugs were just tentacles on the giant corporate military industrial complex who were as addicted to war as some of these junkies were addicted to meth. I would recommend watching the show in order because there is a rhythm and flow to the episode order. Though I am not one to condone yadda yadda, try Fastpass ( http://fastpasstv.ms/tv/breaking-bad/ ). Each season is more intense and complex than the previous one. Where and how it will end is anybody's guess, but I'll bet it will be unforgettable as far as TV is concerned. Obviously, the show's intensity and high quality has potential to be distracting from real world events if you're not careful, but we all deserve to enjoy a good story from time to time, even times like these. Cheers! |
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2011, 12:26:01 PM » |
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Vince Gilligan is known for creating, writing, directing and producing the AMC drama show, Breaking Bad. The show contains images which depict Ron Paul supporters as crazy kooks and meth heads. Before Breaking Bad, his big break came when he earned various producer credits for the Fox television drama The X-Files. He was co-executive producer of 44 episodes, executive producer of 40, co-producer of 24 and supervising producer of 20. After The X-Files, he became executive producer of all the thirteen episodes of The Lone Gunmen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Gilligan |
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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2011, 12:55:06 PM » |
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Do you even watch breaking bad? Cause the person they associated Ron Paul with was not crazy or a methhead...dude was a good guy and extremely intelligent.
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« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2011, 01:33:42 PM » |
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i was going off the phone call to the show yesterday
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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2011, 01:46:20 PM » |
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Well everyone who watches the show and is familiar with the characters doesn't see this as a bad thing. There's been quite a few threads on it already.
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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2011, 02:41:56 PM » |
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It's alright i know how it looks...the show has been lauded for casting something that should be bad like being involved with drugs into something that kind of depends on the particular situation and particular individuals. It should really make people think twice about stereotyping people. None of the non drug audience knew it would be possible to like a meth cook. I litterally paused that episode as i was watching to make a thread about it here, i figured it might be misinterpreted. http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=214269.msg1278987#msg1278987Watch the first episode and i bet you get hooked. A+ Acting, writing and imagery...there's tons of things that are central to the plot that are only vaguely shown and you will miss if you're not paying attention or not observant, a show that makes you think to figure out what the hell is going on, who would have thought. I watched an episode and to be honest I feel a lot dumber because of it. Mostly pseudo chemists and almost a Memento feeling to it where no one is just straight up clear about things. You have to try and read everyones' minds including the writer. But, to be fair, before I watched it, I thought it was a fricking reality show so that kind of warped me for the first 15 minutes. I will give it another try, but it would be 1,000x easier if they just came out and said WTF is going on rather than having the audience grab onto ever look, every turn of the head with mental claws desperate to make sense out of anything. Like I saiid, just the first go around, I will give it another shot since many people seem to think it is about the only thing worthwhile on TV (and other than southpark, that may be the case). |
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The BA also stands for Barium obviously. (chemtrails) I remember a random scene in season 1 that had chemtrails in the sky.... Looked like cross hatched chemtrails to me anyway.
Vince Gilligan also wrote the pilot of the lone gunmen w/Chris Carter which CLEARLY predicted 9/11.
Vince also wrote "drive" in the X Files featuring Bryan Cranston which was about HAARP. It was b4 9/11 also. I noticed a few characters in BB were from episodes Vince wrote when he was doing the x files....
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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2011, 11:45:25 PM » |
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Regardless of the method, it gets the info out there. After I saw that epeisode, I sighed and went "Oh no" just because I thought some people might be making a huge deal out of it. Thankfully, I was wrong. Cheers!
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« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2011, 11:20:51 AM » |
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I also noticed in tonight's episode now that you mention it, there was a tweaker guy rambling on about the porno scanners at the airports and the radiation levels. Don't know if this is good or bad, either. He also then started about the cow farts ruining the ozone.
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Ha, Walter White jr's shirt at the dinner table in the new episode--all seeing eye.
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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2011, 08:43:54 PM » |
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Ha, Walter White jr's shirt at the dinner table in the new episode--all seeing eye.
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« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2011, 12:41:26 AM » |
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The BA also stands for Barium obviously. (chemtrails) I remember a random scene in season 1 that had chemtrails in the sky.... Looked like cross hatched chemtrails to me anyway.
Vince Gilligan also wrote the pilot of the lone gunmen w/Chris Carter which CLEARLY predicted 9/11.
Vince also wrote "drive" in the X Files featuring Bryan Cranston which was about HAARP. It was b4 9/11 also. I noticed a few characters in BB were from episodes Vince wrote when he was doing the x files....
The X Files writers clearly were fed info from CIA....
"Yeah science" This is what I meant about the BA being interesting choice in the name: SCULLY: Okay. Mulder, you know what ELF waves are? Extremely low radio transmissions? MULDER: Yeah. It uses an antenna, like, 50 miles long. The military uses it to communicate with the trident submarines, Project Seafarer, Project Haarp. SCULLY: Well, Seafarer has an antenna array stretching beneath the edge of Patrick Crump's property. Now, ELF fields have been shown to... To produce biological effects in human tissue inducing electrical currents, altering chemical reactions. MULDER: Not to mention that as a potential weapons application it's been referred to as "electrical nerve gas" or may be behind the so-called "Taos Hum." http://x-files.wikia.com/wiki/Drive |
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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2011, 01:47:34 AM » |
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All heros in shows are evil. Good is bad, bad is good.
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