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« on: August 07, 2011, 03:39:32 AM »

People with disabilities caused by genetic defects should be sterilized so they cannot pass their faulty genes onto another generation and further pollute the human gene pool. individuals with cognitive disabilities or low IQ's should be sterilized first, then those with autism, down syndrome, the deformed, blind, deaf, physically handicapped, those with genetic diseases and disorders, and so forth.

If we stop all of these people from being able to breed, then the next generation of humans will most likely not be born with any of these disabilities or genetic faults. Plus, over time, the overpopulation problem will be solved. Disabled people whose disabilities were caused by an injury are exempt from compulsory sterilizations. Because obviously their genes are not affected by an injury and are still genetically fit to breed.

There needs to be a massive computerized DNA database of everyone in the world so geneticists can determine who should be allowed to breed and who should not.

I went to the clinic a few months ago and inquired about (voluntarily) getting a vasectomy for myself because of my low IQ score and subsequent special education placement. But then I discovered that they won't give vasectomies to anyone under 35 years old.

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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 11:03:36 AM »

your low IQ score really reflects your character in this argument.. and I would say it is people like you that are the anchor holding the human race on it´s knees!..

oh BTW welcome to the forum Mr. Rothschild Wink
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 11:11:04 AM »

Clearly this is satire.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 05:08:28 PM »

Seriously, I went to the clinic a few months ago to inquire about voluntarily getting a vasectomy, but they told me that they do not give vasectomies to anyone under 35 years old. I am only 23.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 05:32:12 PM »

they would not give you one?

then pay for the procedure

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 05:32:24 PM »

Seriously, I went to the clinic a few months ago to inquire about voluntarily getting a vasectomy, but they told me that they do not give vasectomies to anyone under 35 years old. I am only 23.

I feel very sorry for you...

If you actually knew anything about biology you'd realise that a lot of so-called inherited features are not inherited in the simplistic manner you describe. If that was true, tall people would continously produce 7ft+ giants and intelligent people would always inherently give birth to gifted children. Neither of which is true - there's this phenomenon called "regression to the mean".
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 06:10:56 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 06:59:18 PM »

There is so much more to this than the OP and many people of all ages who hold this opinion are aware of.

Nature in it's creative diversity, produces spontaneous mutations all the time... this is to cover any monoculture style malady or disease from wiping out an entire species... nature will create mutations at random when a disease precursor enters the gene pool, nature compensates... this is naturally triggered within the organism by the attacking element itself... the organism responds genetically over time to compensate as each generation unfolds... the same mechanism that creates DDT immune mosquitoes, works with all other species as well, for a myriad of causes and effects.

This is how life works... So with the amount of industrial chemical changes in the environment, all life is creating a myriad of mutant variations, allowing for ones that will end run the environmental changes, in order to proliferate...

Now, should the folks with deformities and genetic alterations, caused by vaccines, water additives, food additives, industrial chemical and radio-active pollution -- those with autism, with mental defects, physical degradation or changes, etc, ... Should these folks be killed off, since their genes are being altered by the environment... being made defective by your definition?

Who said that the classic idea of health and beauty as exemplified by the Greeks and the Romans and the Nazis and others is the only standard?  Who said that this is what all humans must look like? Who said that short legged stocky people are defective... or extremely tall skinny long torso-ed people are somehow defective too... or that so-called midgets are genetically defective, or people with thick blood, or those with thin blood, or those who can dream the universe, but can't tie their own shoes... who but a monoculture utopist would suggest such a destructive thing... only in the boredom of Hitler or Margret Sanger's world could such a thing be thought of, let alone done.

How about a man or a woman who works heavily with their hands, arms, and back their whole life and at 60 have become hunched over and walk funny... should they be killed as well...

People who think that they know better than nature what life must do, those who believe they know what will survive better that another, are aiming at a monoculture humanity, which is a sure-fire prescription for single cause extinction. Think about it...

The True Beauty of the universe is found in it's infinite and constantly unfolding diversity.

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2011, 07:22:54 PM »

JT you are too deep (yet right on)

let the guy sterilize himself, all the elite eugenicists should lead by example and snip / tie their reproductive organs as well as doing the similar to all of their family members

o, wait a spell

they can not do that because they are the chosen ones who get to pick and chose who is defective and who is not & only their stock are worthy of reproduction  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2011, 07:37:13 PM »

the collectivists are a product of the sheeple and the crooked traitors. the only reason the collectivists continue to exist is because of the sheeple and traitors. exterminate the sheeple and traitors along with the collectivists to solve the problem permanently. otherwise more collectivists will spew from the bowels of the weaklings until we are finally all imminently destroyed. this is the reason the collectivists create more weaklings on purpose and are monopolists. they understand why and how they exist. the majority of the masses have been physically and psychologically damaged by the collectivist tools of destruction. Destroying the collectivists is just the beginning. The herd will need to be thinned and maintained for eternity. Perfection is minimal.
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2011, 07:44:13 PM »

JT you are too deep (yet right on)

let the guy sterilize himself, all the elite eugenicists should lead by example and snip / tie their reproductive organs as well as doing the similar to all of their family members

o, wait a spell

they can not do that because they are the chosen ones who get to pick and chose who is defective and who is not & only their stock are worthy of reproduction  Roll Eyes

Ah thanks, AD... just pointing out the "not quite so obvious" here, in hopes it will become obvious as noses on faces... making it to where this type of eugenic thinking will itself become extinct... not likely though because ideas too, morph... hence Jefferson's comment about eternal vigilance...

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2011, 08:58:49 PM »

In high school, I was in special education after scoring 89 (overall) on the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale. And I had some very negative experiences with the students and teachers there. The best comparison I can make is it was like being at a zoo.

Those people (special ed placements/mentally deficient personnel) need to be sterilized and kept oppressed. They need to finally accept the fact that life isn't fair, and they should all put their two cents in to the best of their ability and further the lifestyles of those with above average, superior, or gifted intelligence.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2011, 09:53:29 PM »

In high school, I was in special education after scoring 89 (overall) on the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale. And I had some very negative experiences with the students and teachers there. The best comparison I can make is it was like being at a zoo.

Those people (special ed placements/mentally deficient personnel) need to be sterilized and kept oppressed. They need to finally accept the fact that life isn't fair, and they should all put their two cents in to the best of their ability and further the lifestyles of those with above average, superior, or gifted intelligence.

What the F are you talking about?

You are saying that some humans are almost a separate species?

Here is a 100 year old document created by Carnegie, Ford, Rockefeller (CFR) families.

Is this what you are promoting?



First the history... this is a report from a meeting held in Massachusetts in 1914... you will read this and recognize that the Eugenicists' agenda is still alive and well. Think about it. This is a blueprint for everything that has happened in the past 96 years. You see it continues today - these are some dedicated psychopaths.

This organization was founded by the Harriman, Rockefeller, and Carnegie Families.




Eugenics Record Office.

BULLETIN No. 10A:

Report of the Committee to Study
and to Report on the Best Practical Means of
Cutting Off the Defective Germ-Plasm
in the American Population.


I. THE SCOPE OF THE COMMITTEE'S WORK, by HARRY H. LAUGHLIN,
Secretary of the Committee,
Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island, New York, February, 1914.

This document has been scanned and prepared for publication in Adobe Acrobat format by the staff of the National Information Resource on Ethics and Human Genetics. The digitization was performed with funding from Georgetown University's subgrant through National Human Genome Research Institute's Centers of Excellence in ELSI Research (CEER) award to Duke University under grant number 06-SC-NIH-1027, Robert Cook-Deegan, Principal Investigator.
 
 
National Information Resource on Ethics and Human Genetic
The Joseph and Rose Kennedy Institute of Ethics
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202-687-3885, 888-GEN-ETHX, FAX: 202-687-6770
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INTRODUCTION.

The investigation reported in this series of studies was initiated at the second meeting of the Research Committees of the Eugenics Section of the American Breeders Association at Palmer, Mass., May 2 and 3, 1911, Dr. W. N. Bullard presiding. At this meeting the following resolution was unanimously adopted:

Resolved, That the Chair appoint a committee commissioned to study and report on the best practical means for cutting off the defective germ-plasm in the American population.

Whereupon Dr. Bullard, after consultation, named the following members: Dr. W. H. Mitchell, Hathorne, Mass., Chairman; Bleecker Van Wagenen, Alstead Center, N. H.; Dr. Everett Flood, Palmer, Mass.; Dr. W. H. Carmalt, New Haven, Conn.; H. H. Laughlin, Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island. Later in the day the Chairman, Dr. Mitchell, designated Mr. Laughlin Secretary.

On July 15, 1911, the committee met with Mr. Van Wagenen at the City Club, 55 West 44th Street, New York City. Dr. Mitchell, on account of other engaging duties, resigned the chairmanship of the committee; whereupon, on motion of Dr. Carmalt, Mr. Van Wagenen was unanimously chosen Chairman. The committee met from time to time under the leadership of Mr. Van Wagenen, and outlined the investigation. It was decided to make the study as comprehensive and as thorough as possible, and to this end the aid of an expert advisory committee was deemed essential.

The following named experts were duly invited and accepted membership on the committee as indicated: Medicine, L. F. Barker; physiology, W. B. Cannon; surgery,
Alexis Carrel; biology, Herbert J. Webber; thremmatology, Raymond Pearl; anthropology, Alex. F. Chamberlain; psychiatry, Stewart Paton; psychology, H. H. Goddard; woman’s viewpoint, Mrs. Caroline B. Alexander; criminology, Warren W. Foster; sociology, Franklin H. Giddings; economics, James A. Field; statistics, O. P. Austin; immigration, R. DeC. Ward; law, James M. Beck and Louis Marshall; history, James J. Walsh; public affairs, Irving Fisher; international
cooperation, E. E. Southard.

The work of gathering and analyzing data began in the summer of 1911, and the Chairman, Mr. Van Wagenen, presented before the First International Eugenics Congress, which met in London, July 24 to 30, 1912, a preliminary report of the investigation.

It is the purpose of the committee to investigate all phases of the problem of cutting off the supply of defectives, and to publish from time to time data which will, we trust, aid the student of social affairs in weighing any particular phase of the problem that may present itself.

The committee will therefore study the facts in reference to the numbers of and the rate and manner of increase of the socially inadequate.

It will strive to analyze the factors of heredity and environment in the production of the social unfitness observed. It will report first-hand facts concerning the drag that these classes entail upon the general welfare, and will review the first-hand studies in human heredity that have been made by careful study of the problem. And finally the committee will point out what appears as a result of study to be “the best practical means,” so far as the innate traits are a factor, of purging the blood of the American people of the handicapping and deteriorating influences of these anti-social classes.

The first series of studies will be devoted to a study of sterilization as a eugenical agency.

THE FIELD OF STUDY

The specific problems, then, now before this committee may be classified as follows:

1. Medicine: Standards and methods for determining the type of degenerates proposed for eugenical segregation or sterilization. The relation of sterilization to the spread of venereal diseases. Sterilization as a therapeutic agent. The classification and determination of human defects.

2. Physiology: Comparative effects of the various forms of sterilization on normal and the different types of abnormal individuals, both male and female, at different ages, in respect to nutrition, growth, temperament, primary sex organs, secondary sexual characteristics, voice and physiological reactions.

3. Surgery: Technical and popular description of the various methods employed in sterilizing both males and females. Seriousness and difficulty of the operations. Preparation and convalescence. Possibility of restoring the procreatory function in sterilized persons.

4. Biology:
The origin of defective strains within the human population. Processes of contaminating normal strains with defective traits. The inheritance of defective traits and the manner of their combination into various legal types of the socially unfit. The comparative influence of modern and ancient social conditions on the selective elimination of defectives. The probable outcome of the present tendencies if unchecked.

5. Thremmatology:
Efficacy of sterilization of hereditary degenerates to raise the average of the race. Comparison between the essential principles of eugenics and of plant and animal breeding, application of these principles in consonance with the highest social and moral ideals. Criteria for the identification of persons possessing defective germ-plasms. The consideration of persons of mixed worth and defect. Relative thremmatological effect of sterilizing all persons with defective germ-plasms, and of sterilizing only degenerates. Measure of the relative thremmatological value of sterilization on different scales and at different rates.

6. Anthropology
: History of sterilization and asexualization among ancient and modern nations and tribes. Motives, voluntary factors, etc. Effect upon tribal and national growth.

7. Psychiatry: Classification of the various types of the insane with especial reference to the hereditary factor. Standards and tests for diagnosis.

8. Psychology: Standards and tests for determining the types of mental degenerates and defectives proposed for sterilization. Effects of the various forms of sterilization on both males and females in mental processes, industry, habits of life, and sex instincts.

9. Morals and Ethics: Eugenics and democracy. The attitude of the various churches toward the proposal to sterilize persons known to possess defective germ-plasms. The ethical, moral, and ontological aspects of sterilization. Eugenical limitations of marriages by the ministry.
 
10. Woman’s Viewpoint: Relative responsibilities and burdens of men and women within the socially unfit classes in rearing children. Sterilization as a punitive, humane, and eugenic measure; and as an agency for social prophylaxis. Woman’s view of the rights of parentage of individuals liable to beget socially unfit offspring or who are unable to provide the environment necessary to the normal development of offspring. The attitude of society toward such individuals.

11. Criminology: Role of heredity in crime. Standards and tests for determining the criminal types proposed to sterilize. What constitutes a confirmed criminal? Consideration of the justice of the operation in the case of redeemable delinquents.

12. Sociology: Relative rights and duties of the race and the individual whom society proposes to sterilize. Part the sterilized individual takes in the social fabric and the attitude of society toward such individuals. Estimate of the relative proportion of the socially unfit committed to institutional care to those living in the population at large. Method of reaching defective and potential parents of defectives not in institutions. Relation of sterilized individuals to the social
evil, and the spread of venereal diseases. Estimate of the present social handicap of defectives on the American and other peoples. Relative roles of heredity and environment in producing defectives. Relative rights of control of society and the individual over germ-plasm.

Presentation of special problems connected with the
elimination of each of the several following classes of the socially unfit:


(a) the feeble-minded class,
(b) the pauper class,
(c) the inebriate class,
(d) the criminalistic class,
(e) the epileptic class,
(f) the insane class,
(g) the asthenic or physically weak class,
(h) those predisposed to specific diseases or the diathetic class,
(i) the physically deformed,
(j) those with defective sense organs, or the cacæsthetic class.

13. Political Economy: Measure of the economic handicap of the presence of defectives. Their relation to national, industrial, military, and intellectual efficiency and to national perpetuity. Relation of sterilization on different scales to future population, and to the relative extent of the defective classes. Relation of sterilization to immigration.

14. Statistics
: Data relative to the past, present and probable future cost of maintaining defectives; their number and classification; their rate of increase—absolutely, and compared to the rate of increase of the better strains. The age of persons committed to State custody.
Rate of commitment. Length of commitment.

15. Law: Examination of existing sterilization laws with the view to determining whether the constitutional personal guarantees are sufficiently safeguarded. Do the committees and commissions authorized to enforce the several sterilization laws constitute special courts? Can the decisions of such commissions and committees reverse or modify court decrees? Is sterilization in any of the laws held a punitive remedy? If so, can it be considered as a second punishment
for one offense, or as cruel or unusual punishment? Is the State taking any retaliatory measures toward a certain class of offenders in authorizing the operation? Can the sterilization of degenerates, or especially of criminals, be legitimately effected through the exercise of police
functions? Flexibility of the common law in adapting itself to new social problems. Legal aspect of sterilization in states practicing it without the express authorization of the law. Do existing laws permit any other surgical operation than sterilization? If so, legal bearing?

Do existing laws authorize sterilization as a punitive, a reformatory, a therapeutic, or a eugenic measure? Sterilization and inheritance of property. Framing a model law permitting the sterilization of persons known to have defective germ-plasms, establishing criterion therefore,
and providing for effective execution. Digest of litigation bearing upon or growing out of the operation. Examination of those laws on commitment to state institutions.

16. History: Account of the origin, development and relative numbers of the socially unfit within the great nations of history. Attitude of society toward this class. War and defectives. Elimination of the best blood in relation to national decline. Genius and national greatness.
 
17. Public Affairs
: Sterilization in relation to the general welfare. The conservation policy and sterilization. Political expediency of the proposed remedy. Weighing and balancing of the facts and arguments presented by the consideration of the several aspects of the problems with the view to practical application.

18. International Co-operation:
A review of the studies looking toward the possible application of the sterilization of defectives in foreign countries, together with records of any such operations from eugenical motives; foreign laws, customs and attitudes in reference to eugenical sterilization. The extent and nature of the problem of the socially inadequate in foreign countries.

To complete this series of studies is a huge task, and the committee will be satisfied if it can present under each of the given headings a few of the many pertinent facts for consideration by the public.

From the beginning of these studies the committee has, at frequent intervals, had the advantage of consultation with Dr. Charles B. Davenport, the resident director of the Eugenics Record Office, and to him for his many valuable suggestions the committee is greatly indebted.

HARRY H. LAUGHLIN, Secretary,
Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island.
December 1, 1913.


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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2011, 08:29:50 PM »

People with disabilities caused by genetic defects should be sterilized so they cannot pass their faulty genes onto another generation and further pollute the human gene pool. individuals with cognitive disabilities or low IQ's should be sterilized first, then those with autism, down syndrome, the deformed, blind, deaf, physically handicapped, those with genetic diseases and disorders, and so forth.

If we stop all of these people from being able to breed, then the next generation of humans will most likely not be born with any of these disabilities or genetic faults. Plus, over time, the overpopulation problem will be solved. Disabled people whose disabilities were caused by an injury are exempt from compulsory sterilizations. Because obviously their genes are not affected by an injury and are still genetically fit to breed.

There needs to be a massive computerized DNA database of everyone in the world so geneticists can determine who should be allowed to breed and who should not.

I went to the clinic a few months ago and inquired about (voluntarily) getting a vasectomy for myself because of my low IQ score and subsequent special education placement. But then I discovered that they won't give vasectomies to anyone under 35 years old.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

Well, let's see here.
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[1] People with 'disabilities caused by genetic defects' have successfully produced children whom are completely free of a continued 'genetic defect.'
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[2] Genetic defects arrive from several causes, most of them environmental in their nature, such as the mother ingesting one or another chemical or element, or conversely having a diet which was deficient in an important chemical or element.
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[3] Since the brain is the most sensitive organ in the body, and its development is most affected by the mother's actions or inactions, but other aspects of the child's development are entirely unaffected, then your statement is again revealed to be faulted.
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[4] Children are born with physical birth defects, but are otherwise intellectually normal.
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Genetic determination is predicated upon the chemistry which the genome itself is based. More to the point, if something seriously disturbs the chemistry, then there arrives the fact of change. But, that change cannot be sustained if it is not in agreement with the nature of the chemistry itself. Here's an analogue: You might mix cow's milk with maple syrup and feed it to a calf. But the calf won't end up producing 'maple milk,' simply because the chemistry does not agree with the predetermined conclusion of the calf's own genetic chemistry.
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From the above then, we see that the ~expressions~ of the genome are affected only in specific ways while the foetus is in development. This is to say that the genome itself is not damaged, but only its expressions, i.e., the characteristics particular to the genes. Ergo, the undamaged genome may be successfully passed on in subsequent generations without any fear of continued aberrations.
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Only in the most damaged DNA would such a conclusion occur, if only that the DNA itself is beyond self-repair. Such cases are exhibited in particular hereditary syndromes such as haemophiliacs.
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Finally, that matter of 'IQ' is essentially relative, if only that it --in most cases-- measures knowledge of certain subjects. It might interest you to note that --on average-- black people tend to register abnormally low on IQ tests which white people register high upon. That's been pointed out not a few times, and the reason for those scores has much to do with environmental factors such as familiarity with certain subject, or the lack thereof, among other things.
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Further to that is this: No two people learn things in exactly the same way. Many of the best and brightest failed abysmally in so-called 'public school,' but then when on to accomplish great things after they'd been freed of the entirely artificial constraints imposed upon the minds of the children whom attend those places. And example of that is Thomas Edison.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2012, 08:14:56 PM »

Damn....

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Presentation of special problems connected with the
elimination of each of the several following classes of the socially unfit:

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(c) the inebriate class

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This time, it's personal.
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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2013, 04:40:25 AM »

Soon Ted Turner and Bill Gates will get their wish.
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2013, 06:42:54 AM »

Playing god through eugenics is highly dangerous, just as with GM food and any form of cloning.

The long term effect of trying to breed out defects is to narrow the gene pool. Aside from other risks, no one can tell the future. Some of the genes you end up breeding out of society may offer resistance to future problems.

At its extreme, you only have to look at all the health side effects of breeding pedigree dogs where breeding to a template of the ideal dog leaves most breeds with a long list of health problems or at the real extreme of inbreeding from a narrowed gene pool you only have to look at the genetic health problems with the Amish in the usa or the european royal families.

You got to leave the genepool alone, it gains its very strength from its diversity and we play god with it at our descendants peril.
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2013, 08:34:07 AM »

Playing god through eugenics is highly dangerous, just as with GM food and any form of cloning.

The long term effect of trying to breed out defects is to narrow the gene pool. Aside from other risks, no one can tell the future. Some of the genes you end up breeding out of society may offer resistance to future problems.

At its extreme, you only have to look at all the health side effects of breeding pedigree dogs where breeding to a template of the ideal dog leaves most breeds with a long list of health problems or at the real extreme of inbreeding from a narrowed gene pool you only have to look at the genetic health problems with the Amish in the usa or the european royal families.

You got to leave the genepool alone, it gains its very strength from its diversity and we play god with it at our descendants peril.

Well said, welcome to the forum
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2013, 10:05:32 AM »

@EccentrIc thanks for the welcome. Talk of eliminating defects from the genepool, agenda 21 and depopulation is a sore topic for me at the moment.
I live in the UK, I turn 50 this year and Ive been disabled for the past 7 years. The condition I suffer from is more common in older people and caught and treated before perm damage, however in my case it was missed until my nervous system was in freefall.

For info of the horrors going on in the UK and im about to face, read my post in the recent Atos thread in this sect of the forum. ID link to it directly but my tablet is having proud copying the address.
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2013, 10:26:05 AM »

Hmm my tablet updated this morning and left afforded on. I was thanking EvadingGrid which the autocorrect saw fit to change
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2013, 01:07:25 PM »

 I saw the movie and thought it was hilarious: Because I could see our society today, not as bad as Idiocricy, but close!

I thought the moral was: if you lower the IQ's of the population with GMO, Entertainment and Sex; and you end up with a world of Idiot's!

 This movie could never become real as the idiot's couldn't repair anything?

Nevertheless it is a tactic of the NWO---to lower everyone's IQ!

 That's why I wear my Tin-Foil Hat---so the idiot's can't indoctrinate me with their Idiocricy  Roll Eyes
 
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2013, 01:13:18 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2013, 01:23:05 PM »

In high school, I was in special education after scoring 89 (overall) on the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale. And I had some very negative experiences with the students and teachers there. The best comparison I can make is it was like being at a zoo.

Those people (special ed placements/mentally deficient personnel) need to be sterilized and kept oppressed. They need to finally accept the fact that life isn't fair, and they should all put their two cents in to the best of their ability and further the lifestyles of those with above average, superior, or gifted intelligence.

You are thinking too simply about this.  But I'll give you a pass due to your age, and lack of life experiences.

Let me give you three examples of why you are wrong.

1) You lose your wallet at a store.  It can be found by the average teenager, or a person with downs syndrome.  Which do you choose?  If you have any life experience, you will choose the the downs syndrom person.  They are honest to a fault.  The teenager will be a lot less likely to give you your wallet back intact, and it's quite possible they take your credit cards if you have any and try to use them.

2) Your in the same store.  You are being helped by a teenager again, or the person with downs syndrome.  Which do you think will smile at you?  Which will have manners? Which will go out of his/her way to help you?  I think you know the correct answer.

3) The supreme example:   I give you the power to go back in time and replace Hitler, with pres. Obama or an adult with downs.  Which do you choose?
Obama, god only knows what he would do.   The downs person will think more from the heart, and as such WWII will never happen.

The most wicked of things, comes not from the small, weak, diseased, or challenged amoung us.  Instead it comes from the exact opposites of those traits.
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2013, 03:49:34 PM »

In high school, I was in special education after scoring 89 (overall) on the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale. And I had some very negative experiences with the students and teachers there. The best comparison I can make is it was like being at a zoo.

Those people (special ed placements/mentally deficient personnel) need to be sterilized and kept oppressed. They need to finally accept the fact that life isn't fair, and they should all put their two cents in to the best of their ability and further the lifestyles of those with above average, superior, or gifted intelligence.

hah!  I have known people with levels 72-80 IQ.  They are not capable of writing as well as the above -- at all!  I realize you state your iq is higher, but not enough to write as well as the above.  Why do you do this?  Using forum members for your school project, perhaps?  I've seen so many of these before.  Let me present what you probably have not been exposed to in school...

The arguments were made a long time ago on this very subject with regard to Hitler's racial cleansing program.  This included first, sterilization, then turned to euthenasia.   Humanity and civilized people of many countries asked this question:

Where does it stop?

At first, it all seemed so reasonable.  Then, if they are ok to sterilize, why not just rid society (euthanize-kill) of these lower IQ types who don't contribute, anyway?  oh yeah, I forgot.  They did that with the Jews.  The "excuse" was racial cleansing or whatever, there -- but, we know they were targeted to steal their wealth.

Where does it stop?  Where is the line drawn on who is sterilized, or not?  It was decided that humane treatment of each other did not include forced bodily invasions with chemicals, vaccines; forced abortions; euthenasia; torture; forced sterilizations and the like.   I do not know of any government in the world that I would trust with *this* decision.

Take child protective services, for instance.  This is a program gone wild with their quotas to be met in taking children into the system.

Just exactly "who" makes the decision?  How much money would they get from the government to make the decisions on who gets sterilized.

Then.  oh my, if to sterilize the lowest..how about let's sterilize 99.9% of all people so humankind only passes on .1% of the highest IQ genes?  Then... how about .05%?  hmmm

There are two scientific measures of a successful civilization.  1.  infant mortality rate   2.  how well, or not, the less-than are cared for in a society...

My personal take on it is this.  Albert Einstein was considered stupid and a poor student.  He surely would have been on the list.  However, it was out of the mongrel gene pool (so to speak), the wild-unhindered breeding, that Albert Einstein was born.  He was The Man of The Century according to the New York Times.  What if his parents had been sterilized?  Just think of the contributions to humanity that would never have been.

Knowing how government works, it would be some goon with zero IQ making the "decision" because he would be the cheapest to hire.  oh goodie

btw - I am sure you could pay any doctor for a vasectomy.

And, I would read up on Nuremberg Code.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199711133372006

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