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« on: July 27, 2011, 08:26:25 AM »

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=326585


A lawsuit seeking in excess of $50 million has been prepared against MSNBC and its talk-show entertainer Rachel Maddow over statements she made about a Minnesota-based ministry.

Word of the development comes in an announcement from officials with the YouCanRunButYouCannotHideInternational ministry run by former rock artist Bradlee Dean.

The attorney handling the case is Larry Klayman, the founder of Judicial Watch and now of Freedom Watch, who said money is not the issue.

"This case is filed as a matter of principle," he said. "We need more Bradlee Deans in the world and hateful left wing television commentators must be made to respect not only his mission but the law."

How low can the media go? Meet 'The Anti-Journalists.' Not only do they refuse to report the truth – they attack you if you do

The team announced a news conference tomorrow at the Midtown Executive Club in New York to respond to reporters' questions about the dispute.

Dean, a renowned hard metal rocker who came to Christ after suffering a hard life as a young boy, has dedicated his life to his ministry's mission, officials said.

He once made a statement on the radio criticizing his fellow Christians for not taking a stronger stand about the "gay" rights lobby promoting homosexuality in the schools. According to the ministry announcement, he made a strong reference to Muslims taking the issue more seriously in the context of Shariah law, but did not condone their practices. It was Bradlee's intent to focus attention on the issue, not to advocate harm to anyone.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2011, 08:35:01 AM »

i will be very surprised if he wins.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2011, 08:37:23 AM »

i will be very surprised if he wins.

  I agree.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2011, 08:45:32 PM »

I read the lawsuit, and watched the two videos where Maddow spoke about Dean and his statements. In the first segment, she references Dean's clarification: "We have never and will never call for the execution of homosexuals." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBjfLTOYGXw (1.59) Given the facts of this case, I hope MSNBC does not settle. They should fight this case, even if it means having to spend a lot of money in litigation costs.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2011, 05:34:00 AM »

I read the lawsuit, and watched the two videos where Maddow spoke about Dean and his statements. In the first segment, she references Dean's clarification: "We have never and will never call for the execution of homosexuals." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBjfLTOYGXw (1.59) Given the facts of this case, I hope MSNBC does not settle. They should fight this case, even if it means having to spend a lot of money in litigation costs.


Are you gay, or do you work for MSNBC? I ask because it's obvious you haven't got a clue that Maddow in her pro-gay stance tried to say the guy said something he didn't say! She defamed him, point blank.

And she can't recant or retract the statement. It's already made and damage done and she knows it. This isn't her first ride on the media bus. She's a former radio talk show host that Keith Olberman brought onboard, so she knows exactly how media works and how to manipulate what people say in her "reporting". By the way, her show isn't news, it's an editorial sideshow.

You do realize the Rachel Maddow is gay, right?

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...An earlier report from the ministry said Maddow contended on her program that Dean said: "The Muslims are calling for the execution of homosexuals in America. This was just released yesterday and it shows you that they themselves are upholding the laws that are even in the Bible of the Judeo-Christian God. But they seem to be more moral than even the American Christians do because these people are livid about enforcing their laws. They know homosexuality's an abomination. If America won't enforce the laws, God will raise up a foreign enemy to do just that."

The quote, however, was an edited version of Dean's original message, which was a benign warning to the homosexual community that the Bible calls the behavior a sin, which has consequences, so they should "flee" from it. Dean explains he was only trying to urge the Christian community to take  the radical leftist homosexual agenda more seriously.

According to Dean's ministry, his actual statement was:


Muslims are calling for the execution for homosexuals in America, this was just released yesterday and it shows you that they themselves are upholding the laws that are even in the Bible, the Judeo Christian God. They seem to be more moral than even the American Christians do. Because these people are livid about enforcing their laws, they know homosexuality is an abomination. And I continually reach out to the homosexual communities on this radio show, and I warn them, which ones love? Here you have Obama condemning it behind the backs of the homosexuals but to their faces he's promoting it. I say this to my gay friends out there the ones that continuously nitpick everything I say. Hollywood is promoting immorality and the God of the Heavens in Jesus names is warning you to flee from the wrath to come, yet you have Muslims calling for your execution. If America won't enforce the laws, God will raise up a foreign enemy to do just that's what you're seeing in America today. Read Leviticus 26 America.

Klayman told WND that the original distortion of the comments was made by writer Andy Birkey of the Minnesota Independent, who headlined a story "GOP-linked punk rock ministry says executing gays is 'moral'."

The ministry wrote to the newspaper to correct the impression, and Birkey noted Dean's statement that, "We have specifically rejected, as all Christians do, the Islamic doctrine, and actual practice, of executing homosexuals. But some have claimed, in effect, that by merely mentioning the execution of homosexuals (as a criminal practice of Islam), on our radio broadcast, we have suggested it for consideration. Obviously this is absurd. The whole point was to contrast the Islamic position with the Christian position. This may not have been as clear as we would have otherwise planned it to be. Live radio is not scripted. But everyone who knows us knows that this is our position because we have stated it consistently for years."

But since the Independent report and its followup, Klayman noted, the original accusation has spread. The Minneapolis Star-Tribune said Dean's comments were "read as advocating executions for gay people," KARE- TV in Minneapolis reported his "controversial statements about gay persons," and the City Pages said Dean "has praised religious extremists who execute suspected homosexuals."...(cont.)



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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2011, 12:36:06 PM »

Kilika

Thank you for providing the text of the news story, which references the statement from Dean’s ministry. I am familiar with Dean’s explanation, and my opinion on the merits of the case does not change.

Your reference to Maddow’s sexuality is a red herring and has nothing to do with whether her comments were defamatory. The opinion I offered in my original post, and in this reply, is based strictly on the First Amendment.

Given Maddow’s statement, Dean is going to have a very tough time proving that Maddow acted with “actual malice” or with “reckless disregard for the truth.” If the case is not thrown out on summary judgment, Dean will be forced to explain why he referenced the Muslim call for homosexual execution with his statement “that they [the Muslims] themselves are upholding the laws that are even in the Bible….” In addition, he can explain precisely what he was advocating when he said that if Americans don’t “enforce the laws,” then God will raise “a foreign enemy to do just that.” The fact that Mr. Dean also claims that he “reaches” out to the homosexual community does nothing to take away from the entirety of his statement. The ministry seems to know that its case is in trouble given that they acknowledge that Dean’s statement was not “as clear as we would have otherwise planned it to be.” 

In Maddow’s opinion, Dean’s statements were “calling for an upping of the blood shed.” Her viewpoint, like Dean’s quotations, is protected under our First Amendment. There is no Fairness Doctrine in this country. Media outlets, like bloggers or commentators, have no duty to present both sides of an issue or provide equal time to the person they are discussing. Nor are they required to provide every citation to every statement made on a subject. Such a standard has never been and never will be the law of this country.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2011, 01:59:22 PM »

 Politics and religion..MSM.
 Once upon a time folks would say "let your conscience be your guide" .
 The elites will say that is peon mentality.

I'm not fond of these assinine lawsuits that go front page on a daily basis, 50,000,000$, that will catch an eye. I realize they claim to be making a statement, but come on, somebody in this side show is making a buck.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2011, 02:51:48 PM »

Rachel Maddow is a Rhodes Scholar. Her assignment is to destabilize America. Every time she actually speaks her mind and has an original thought, she gets a talking to by the Cecil Rodies and their motley crew of psychopaths. Her job is to divide the country into left/right, gay/straight, conservative/liberal, white/black...anything to stop the American people from coming together in defense of the constitution which protects every individual rather than every profile. Her actions in demonizing groups of people via her outlandish conspiracy theories borders on theater of the absurd. But her talents in NLP do leave many with false impressions based on the $Billions MSNBC spends (of our money-they got it in bailouts) on branding. Due to the monopolistic power that General Electric (Harriman, House of Windsor) has on the US and due to their quasi-governmental authority in dictating programming...there is a reasonable reason for people to wonder 'what the hell is her agenda anyway' and 'why did Cecil Rhodes want to exterminate all black people via his devious plot called "The White Man's Burden"?'
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2011, 09:24:45 AM »

Thanks Dig.....
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