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« Reply #400 on: July 25, 2011, 10:36:45 PM »

Holy crap!

I forgot about that.

And now with everyone moving off of Fukushima style reactors, Norway was allowing for safe ones. WTF? Direct connections to the Fukushima False Flag and NLE11 agenda.

Oslo = McVeigh + 9/11 + Fukushima.
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« Reply #401 on: July 25, 2011, 11:07:41 PM »

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« Reply #402 on: July 26, 2011, 12:02:25 AM »

Norway terror suspect says he had help

Tells police 2 cells assisted in twin attacks; overall death toll is lowered to 76

OSLO - The 32-year-old man accused of horrifying twin attacks in Norway now maintains that two cells of extremists collaborated with him, court officials said yesterday as they ordered solitary confinement for the suspect.

The defendant, Anders Behring Breivik, previously said he had acted alone.

Police also significantly reduced the confirmed death toll in the Friday attacks to 76 instead of 93. It is still one of the worst mass killings in postwar Europe.

It was not immediately clear how police miscounted the number of dead, which happened as rescuers were attempting to tally the victims of the summer camp shooting. The police earlier said 86 had died at the camp and yesterday lowered the number to 68.

They also revised upward the number of dead in the bombing, from seven to eight.

Breivik appeared at a closed arraignment hearing as Norwegians paused for a minute’s silence to mark the deaths.

While acknowledging that he carried out the attacks, Breivik “has not pleaded guilty,’’ Judge Kim Heger told a televised news conference, in remarks translated by an official of the court.

The judge said Breivik had been charged under criminal law with “acts of terrorism,’’ including an attempt to “disturb or destroy the functions of society, such as the government’’ and to spread “serious fear’’ among the population.

Breivik was ordered to be held for the next eight weeks, the first four in solitary confinement. He told police that there were “two further cells in our organization,’’ reporters were told.

Breivik is the only person accused so far in the attacks, in which a huge bomb exploded in central Oslo, followed by a shooting rampage against a camp run by the ruling Labor Party on the nearby island of Utoya.

In testimony, Heger said, Breivik had said he “believes that he needed to carry out these acts to save Norway’’ and Western Europe from “cultural Marxism and Muslim domination.’’

The court appearance was Breivik’s first since he was captured Friday.

Through his lawyer, he had indicated that he wanted to use the hearing as a platform and had wished to appear wearing some kind of uniform. The court rejected those requests.

The judge said Breivik had wished to “give a sharp signal’’ and inflict “the worst possible loss’’ on the Labor Party, accusing it of failing to prevent a “mass importing of Muslims’’ into Norway.

Shortly before Breivik’s arrival, the court said in a statement that the detention hearing should be held behind closed doors.

“It is clear that there is concrete information that a public hearing with the suspect present could quickly lead to an extraordinary and very difficult situation in terms of the investigation and security,’’ the court said.

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« Reply #403 on: July 26, 2011, 12:02:29 AM »

And in Germany they try again to push through Internet surveillance laws because of that. The same laws that failed and got Germany into trouble with the EU for contract violation because the politicians weren't able to whip the laws through fast enough. They want a list now with people that "attract attention through crude statements". Its always the same pattern. Here they call him a rightwing extremist which in the media mindset = neonazi jewhaters...... but but but but I though he loves Israel? Doesn't matter... we need more police to surveil the rightwing extremists (as if all the neonazi organizations don't have enough of those as members already... only to keep an eye on them of course) and more surveillance of the public and yadayada. Funny how those agencies that failed to prevent the attack are now saying they need more power or another attack will come. Its open mafia. Give us money and power for more protection!

Here 2 interesting questions from German alternative media:

Who called in and announced that a policeman was coming to the island?

How can it be that on an island that had been visited by the former primeminister, and one day after should have been visited the current primeminister, no regular police was present and no secret service?
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« Reply #404 on: July 26, 2011, 12:17:21 AM »

"Two more cells in his organization."

WTF?

There does not exist a book reading group which does not have a full spectrum surveillance available. How does Super Nord Duke Nuke 'em have an "organization" which is not surveilled? And WTF is a "cell"? Just because the Pentagon uses that newspeak bullshit does not mean it actually exists. He is likely living out his "RED TEAM" assignment along with all this boogie boogie dialog.

It is an obvious conspiracy, there is an entire 'organization' behind it and that 'organization' gets funding and military assitance by the Bilderberg banksters.

This is not rocket science.

When the heck is the media going to say "I did not sign up for this shit! Murdering 68 innocent children in a 2 hour death squad ritualistic sacrifice? I am not cooperating anymore with these puppet masters."
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« Reply #405 on: July 26, 2011, 12:40:02 AM »


Great to see exactly the opposite happen of the CIA/MI6 and Mossad objective namely Unite instead of Divide. Great to see all those Norwegian people standing together.

This is great Karma and will put it’s positive vibes into the future. Evil can’t win, they can’t beat us! Cry emotion release.

Cause we are winners, we always will be winners and they .....

.... will always be losers.
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« Reply #406 on: July 26, 2011, 05:12:58 AM »

This is one of their most devious maneuvers by the elite. We know what was behind 9/11. But this recent tactic is very complicated. Dig has been the closest at getting some kind of sense over this calculated attack. everybody else or either non-thinking, or dis-informing people (Counter intelligence).

1. Norway, the preferred race of people who are Scandinavians are always on board with the elite. I can't see how Rothschild and the elite families beyond Rothschild threaten government of Norway, to prod Norway into action against Libya. There is no tussle here or friction. they are ALL on board. Whatever you See, is for public consumption and deception.

2. NATO (ATON Egyptian God) spying on Scandinavian citizens is not something Norway would care about, high level  officials and royalty of course. That is not even an issue with Nato and the kingdom of Norway.

3 Dig, you are right, the manifesto must have been written by somebody else at elite think tanks and intelligence agencies. This guy was obviously in the know with the secret government. A knights temple of Soloman. And his dad was a diplomat for the royal crown of Norway. Yeah, he must have been in on the agenda.You say, what is they agenda?. to terrorize people into a control grid. 

4. Yes this has been planned out for a long time. This was a black operation that must have been in the known of many Norwegian bureaucrats and power wielders.

future implications over a decade:

1. A test grid for mass murder of people. that is scary to think about, but don't over-react or get scared.   We are talking about 10 years or more into the future. remember, CSIS and Obama have explicitly stated that 80% of the human populace must be diminished. It is not a desire, but an order.
As i re-iterate, don't over-react. Just try to protect yourself . Most of zombies will willingly go to the chopping block like  a cow. Some people still have a chance to survive this.

2. Bigger, more audacious attacks by 'terrorist', will further the agenda of a control grid.  White people of Europe and America will be scared of muslims and caucasians themselves. any-body is a future enemy.

3. To obfuscate the so called truthers who can not see the light of truth. they are not fully aware of a bigger agenda, and bigger truth out there.
   a. truthers are being manipulated by counter-intelligence. It is happening right here on this forum. I probably name several counter intelligence that are attempting to scare the bejesus out of people looking for the truth.

4. Maybe a human sacrifice to the elite's deity. there is probably a numerical date that they picked specifically for this. I can imagine that 2012 will be a ominous year for terrorism and the NWO.

Your choice boils down to two options, people. Join the NWO and be possibly saved from the slaughter of billions of people. But be chipped . Or fight against the system, and be eliminated. It will come down to this.  You children are going to face this choice. the higher the intelligence, the better chance your children arnd future children will be spared by the NWO.fSo, protect yourselves from chemtrails, don't vaccinate, eat organic. and home-school. They must join and engage in terrible deeds, that is the rule. play ball or die.
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« Reply #407 on: July 26, 2011, 05:29:48 AM »

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/26/norway-justice-employees-missing-after-massacre/

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Police have acknowledged that they took 90 minutes to reach Utoya island, where a gunman was picking off young people attending a retreat for the Labor Party's youth wing. They weren't able to deploy a helicopter because the entire crew had been sent on vacation. Victims who called emergency services from the midst of the massacre reported being told to stay off the line because authorities were dealing with the Oslo bombing.
 
"I feel the police have delivered well in this situation. I also feel they've delivered especially well on the points where there's been criticism raised," said Storberget.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/26/norway-justice-employees-missing-after-massacre/#ixzz1TD4xfLIf
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« Reply #408 on: July 26, 2011, 05:37:08 AM »

we already know it is a false flag. what is your point in publishing this? Why are you spamming? why are you wasting our time? Why don't you pay attention to my post and pay heed to it. what are you going to do?
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« Reply #409 on: July 26, 2011, 05:50:13 AM »

we already know it is a false flag. what is your point in publishing this? Why are you spamming? why are you wasting our time? Why don't you pay attention to my post and pay heed to it. what are you going to do?

Because you make up all kind of BS and draw occultism and religion and whatnot into the mix to get people arguing about this crap instead dealing with the facts.
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« Reply #410 on: July 26, 2011, 06:01:08 AM »

we already know it is a false flag. what is your point in publishing this? Why are you spamming? why are you wasting our time? Why don't you pay attention to my post and pay heed to it. what are you going to do?

Joseon: this is a thread for gathering information. You can start your own thread if you want to focus on a specific perspective.
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« Reply #411 on: July 26, 2011, 06:17:05 AM »

Norwegian justice minister thanks Oslo police for 'fantastic' work after attacks -Reuters

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« Reply #412 on: July 26, 2011, 06:20:35 AM »

we already know it is a false flag. what is your point in publishing this? Why are you spamming? why are you wasting our time? Why don't you pay attention to my post and pay heed to it. what are you going to do?

That was the first possibly the second post I made in this thread. Why are you wasting your time responding after you wasted your time reading my post? I pointed out some interesting fact that I thought needed attention. It was also to help Dig with his posts and the facts/discrepancies he is finding. This is where our focus needs to be to really determine that this was a false flag attack. The thing I am going to do now is put you on some ignore list, so I don't have to respond to your asshatery again.
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« Reply #413 on: July 26, 2011, 06:47:32 AM »

4. Maybe a human sacrifice to the elite's deity. there is probably a numerical date that they picked specifically for this. I can imagine that 2012 will be a ominous year for terrorism and the NWO.

I agree, this reeks of child sacrifice to Molech, coinciding closely with Bohemian Grove...guess they wanted to get their sacrifices done after since activists had such a keen eye on them earlier.



As for the leader of Norway, and the people, I can only commend their right attitude.
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« Reply #414 on: July 26, 2011, 06:49:35 AM »

The story of the Sandnes homicide by two masked men in military uniforms was updated today:

Seeking masked men for murder in Sandnes
Publisert 25.07.11 - 10:43, endret 26.07.11 - 06:48 (© NTB)

"Witnesses told police that two people made their way into the house, fired one shot and then disappeared at about 19.50 on Sunday. Police lawyer Karsten Monsen said to Eve magazine that all indications are that it all happened very quickly and purposefully"

"Police lawyer Karsten Monsen told Stavanger newspaper that the victim was an acquaintance of the police, but would not say whether he was part of a particular environment."
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080743

Sandnes is 45 minutes from Oslo.
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« Reply #415 on: July 26, 2011, 06:56:56 AM »

The story of the Sandnes homicide by two masked men in military uniforms was updated today:

Seeking masked men for murder in Sandnes
Publisert 25.07.11 - 10:43, endret 26.07.11 - 06:48 (© NTB)

"Witnesses told police that two people made their way into the house, fired one shot and then disappeared at about 19.50 on Sunday. Police lawyer Karsten Monsen said to Eve magazine that all indications are that it all happened very quickly and purposefully"

"Police lawyer Karsten Monsen told Stavanger newspaper that the victim was an acquaintance of the police, but would not say whether he was part of a particular environment."
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080743

Sandnes is 45 minutes from Oslo.

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« Reply #416 on: July 26, 2011, 06:58:32 AM »


  Steve Pieczenik on AJ yesterday.

    I can say that I really don't trust him that much anymore.  He did not believe this was a FF at all.

    He kept talking about his novel he had written 20 years ago about Norway as if this incident was played out in the novel.

    He also keeps lifting up the military and Gen. Betrayus.

    One caller had it right about Pieczenik.  Once CIA, always CIA.  This (the interview yesterday) was CIA disinfo (concerning the Norway situation).

    Your thoughts about Pieczenik.
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« Reply #417 on: July 26, 2011, 07:02:43 AM »

 Steve Pieczenik on AJ yesterday.

    I can say that I really don't trust him that much anymore.  He did not believe this was a FF at all.

    He kept talking about his novel he had written 20 years ago about Norway as if this incident was played out in the novel.

    He also keeps lifting up the military and Gen. Betrayus.

    One caller had it right about Pieczenik.  Once CIA, always CIA.  This (the interview yesterday) was CIA disinfo (concerning the Norway situation).

    Your thoughts about Pieczenik.

Pieczenik asked AJ to coverup his info on 9/11. He writes propaganda pulp fiction for the CFR. He's a government think-tank psych warfare expert, obviously a genius, obviously smart enough to see through this obvious false flag event. He knows his shit about defense and terrorists, and he's lying. He's turned on us!
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« Reply #418 on: July 26, 2011, 07:10:59 AM »

Pieczenik asked AJ to coverup his info on 9/11. He writes propaganda pulp fiction for the CFR. He's a government think-tank psych warfare expert, obviously a genius, obviously smart enough to see through this obvious false flag event. He knows his shit about defense and terrorists, and he's lying. He's turned on us!

I don't think Pieczenik was ever on our side to begin with. I've listened to him a few times, and he always seems to slightly distract and take the conversation in a different direction without dealing with the subject matter that Alex wants to talk about. I hope Alex just ditches him altogether. Gives more time for real people like Webster Tarpley who know wtf they are talking about and will get into the dirty details of it all.

Also as a response to my own post about the police helicopter crew on vacation from the Foxnews article  we have this ..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43891047/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/
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It took police SWAT units more than an hour to reach the camp, on Utoya Island, after reports of the shooting came in. Officers had to drive to the shore across from the site of the shooting attack, and use boats to get to the island. A police helicopter was unable to get off the ground; news crews that reached the island by air could only watch as the gunman continued the massacre.

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« Reply #419 on: July 26, 2011, 07:15:10 AM »

That being said Tarpley's, Watson's, Alex's political analysis trumps anything Dr. P says...heck if Bermas were still on, I'm sure he could do a better break-down of the psychology of that wayward Norwegian!!!
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« Reply #420 on: July 26, 2011, 07:20:55 AM »

That being said Tarpley's, Watson's, Alex's political analysis trumps anything Dr. P says...heck if Bermas were still on, I'm sure he could do a better break-down of the psychology of that wayward Norwegian!!!

  Agreed.  If Aj gets Tarpley and Dr. P together sparks will fly.
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« Reply #421 on: July 26, 2011, 07:21:15 AM »

The other thing that backfired on this attack was that the shooter wanted to incite a new crusade against the muslims again. Wanting others to take up arms against them or whatever.  But it completely failed. Look at the people gathered in the streets all holding flowers and showing solidarity and standing together for the victims.

The other thing I noticed in some of the videos after the bombings, the crowds that gathered there were calm, no running around screaming OMG WTF.

This false flag I think failed to incite the Norwegians to get mad and violent. Good on Norway.
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« Reply #422 on: July 26, 2011, 07:23:47 AM »

Coverup?

its definately a hit, here's more:

New Norwegian Killing
by craig on July 25, 2011 1:39 pm in Uncategorized
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/07/new-norwegian-killing/

Last night two masked men in military uniform shot dead a 27 year old man in his home in Sandnes, Norway. Nowhere in the mainstream media can I find anybody wondering whether this is related to the massacre in Norway the day before – even though both were killings with guns, (very rare in Norway), and either this guy really was assassinated by soldiers, or both were carried out in false uniform.

Have I turned into a crazed conspiracy theorist, or is this lack of curiosity a little bit strange?

UPDATE
Can this second incident the same weekend in Norway of armed killers in uniforms relate in any way to the “two other cells” of which Breivik spoke in court? I am not claiming to know the answers, but there seem to me obvious questions here and I don’t understand why the media is not asking them.
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« Reply #423 on: July 26, 2011, 07:35:46 AM »

The other thing that backfired on this attack was that the shooter wanted to incite a new crusade against the muslims again. Wanting others to take up arms against them or whatever.  But it completely failed. Look at the people gathered in the streets all holding flowers and showing solidarity and standing together for the victims.

The other thing I noticed in some of the videos after the bombings, the crowds that gathered there were calm, no running around screaming OMG WTF.

This false flag I think failed to incite the Norwegians to get mad and violent. Good on Norway.

One possible explanation: nearly 80% of Norwegians are churchgoers. Godly people are less likely to react that way to something like this.
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« Reply #424 on: July 26, 2011, 07:46:24 AM »

The story of the Sandnes homicide by two masked men in military uniforms was updated today:

Seeking masked men for murder in Sandnes
Publisert 25.07.11 - 10:43, endret 26.07.11 - 06:48 (© NTB)

"Witnesses told police that two people made their way into the house, fired one shot and then disappeared at about 19.50 on Sunday. Police lawyer Karsten Monsen said to Eve magazine that all indications are that it all happened very quickly and purposefully"

"Police lawyer Karsten Monsen told Stavanger newspaper that the victim was an acquaintance of the police, but would not say whether he was part of a particular environment."
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080743

Sandnes is 45 minutes from Oslo.

Another update:

Police have charged two men for the murder of a 27-year-old in Sandnes Sunday. One of them is arrested.
"Rogaland Police District. Both the accused are people the police know."


http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080819
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« Reply #425 on: July 26, 2011, 07:54:03 AM »

You notice how quick they are to blame White Christians for terrorism, yet the only whites you see commit acts of terrorism are brainwashed MKULTRA zombies who have some insane programmed world view nothing like traditional religion.
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« Reply #426 on: July 26, 2011, 07:58:19 AM »

This is incredibly evil what they are doing with this.  The "reaction" part of the Problem Reaction Solution scenario unfolding throws it right in your face that this is a 100% New World Order operation:


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The Breivik manifesto and the Monckton connection

by journalist Graham Readfearn

Conspiracy theorists can easily be dismissed or even laughed off as unthinking, sometimes paranoid ideologues with a tainted view on society.

Their language is often wrapped around power and freedom and speaks of global threats to undermine “our” way of life.

Some outspoken deniers of the risk the world faces from human-caused climate change will often evoke such rhetoric, claiming efforts to legislate to cut emissions of greenhouse gases are socialist or communist plots to redistribute wealth.

But most who believe this rhetoric would never think of turning to force. Anders Behring Breivik did.

The 32-year-old Norwegian Christian fundamentalist is facing trial for the massacre of 76 people in a shooting and bombing attack in Oslo.

Revealed in his online manifesto is a deep paranoia of “Marxists” and of Islam. But Breivik also accepted the conspiratorial thinking of some climate sceptics.

In the manifesto, Breivik cites “environmentalist organisations” as being “smoke screens” for “cultural Marxists”. He also includes in this bracket, groups that advocate for animal rights, human rights, feminism and anti-racism

In a section of his manifesto entitled “Green is the new Red — Stop Enviro-Communism!”, Breivik writes:

“The neo-communist agenda uses politicised science to propagate the global warming scam in order to implement their true agenda; global Marxism.

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« Reply #427 on: July 26, 2011, 08:50:45 AM »

Please send this URL out to everywhere and everyone:

http://oslofalseflag.tk/

It's a YouTube playlist entitled "False Flag Oslo Terror As It Happened" with 36 videos (so far) of the Olso attacks, starting with the prepping (Big Sis Says Whites Are Terrorist!) to Alex Jones' prediction on the attacks, then the attack coverage and finally analysis (including Watson, Tarpley and even conflicting opinions that ultimately conclude in the false flag).

A good way to wake people up to false flag terror and 9/11 for that matter.
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« Reply #428 on: July 26, 2011, 10:26:29 AM »

Dig has been the closest at getting some kind of sense over this calculated attack. everybody else or either non-thinking, or dis-informing people (Counter intelligence).

I do not believe anyone on this thread is disinfo or non-thinking. On the contrary, all I see are concerned people who are posting information which they genuinely feel will assist the people of Norway and all of humanity in exposing these mass murdering false flags before they are ever used to further compromise the rights of man.
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« Reply #430 on: July 26, 2011, 12:24:16 PM »

 Joseon.
           Your post basicaly hits on the same notes as the vast majority of the members.
But just a tip, if you want folks to pay attention to your posts my recomendation would be Don't infer:   
 Everybody else or either non-thinking, or dis-informing people (Counter intelligence).
Being honest with you, it the kind of statment that could be taken personelly. You may discover that the folks on board here, are serious individuals dedicated to the search for the truth.
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« Reply #431 on: July 26, 2011, 12:28:24 PM »

Watch THE EXACT SAME THING happen with Norway due to the false flag
http://drstockpick.com/?p=8967

USA and India Sign Anti-Terrorism Pact

Reported by: Soha crwenewswire Mideast correspondent.

India and USA have signed an anti terror agreement to pledge closer security ties. An Indian government statement said `the India-US Counter Terrorism Initiative signed by officials Friday calls for closer cooperation between the two countries` commando and special forces.

Timothy Roemer the US ambassador to India signed the agreement on behalf of Washington. He said `today, with the formal signing of the initiative, we take several significant steps forward against terrorism`. `In the coming days and months there will be even closer information-sharing and collaborative efforts on issues ranging from bomb blast probe and major event security to mega-city policing, cyber and border security`.

The home ministry statement said that the accord will also enhance cooperation in tracking money laundering and the financing of terrorism.

The agreement has come just a day after top US diplomatic and military officials warned of fresh attempts by militant groups to push nuclear-armed rivals India and Pakistan into war.

The chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, said he feared extremists would attempt another operation similar to the 2008 Mumbai attacks to goad India into armed retaliation against its neighbor`.
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« Reply #432 on: July 26, 2011, 12:41:55 PM »

For your Knight Masonic Templar uniform needs:

His suit looks like a USMC enlisted man's "dress" uniform, complete with Sam Browne belt.  The ribbons on his chest are unfocused, though what looks like a 'bronze star' ribbon is visible on the upper right corner of his ribbon block.  The ribbon in the center of the bottom row looks like a Vietnam service medal.  If they can't get him on mass murder, maybe they can prosecute him under the 'Stolen Valor' act.
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« Reply #433 on: July 26, 2011, 01:26:26 PM »

its definately a hit, here's more:

New Norwegian Killing
by craig on July 25, 2011 1:39 pm in Uncategorized
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/07/new-norwegian-killing/

Last night two masked men in military uniform shot dead a 27 year old man in his home in Sandnes, Norway. Nowhere in the mainstream media can I find anybody wondering whether this is related to the massacre in Norway the day before – even though both were killings with guns, (very rare in Norway), and either this guy really was assassinated by soldiers, or both were carried out in false uniform.

Have I turned into a crazed conspiracy theorist, or is this lack of curiosity a little bit strange?

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Can this second incident the same weekend in Norway of armed killers in uniforms relate in any way to the “two other cells” of which Breivik spoke in court? I am not claiming to know the answers, but there seem to me obvious questions here and I don’t understand why the media is not asking them.


Interesting but it could be anything from a drug deal gone wrong to a professional hit.

Man shot and killed in Sandnes

By Knut Arne Hansen and Wegard Bakkehaug
Published 24.07.11 - 8:15 p.m., changed 25.07.11 - 4:47 (AP)

[A] 27-year-old from Sandnes, was shot in his home on Sunday evening died later of his injuries. Police said the shooting victim was a 27-year-old man. He was transported to Stavanger University Hospital after being shot in the head and later died of his injuries.

Two masked men in military clothing entered the home of the 27-year-old in Sandnes, Norway. One shot was fired at about 19.50 on Sunday night.

- The men visited the deceased were allegedly driving a dark station wagon, says operations manager at Rogaland Police District, Kjetil Føyen, to VG Nett.

Rogaland Police District has launched a full murder investigation and are interested in information from the public.

- He was shot by unknown persons, said Føyen.

Rogaland Avis got the police statement about the incident 19.53.

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080716


Man critically injured in shooting in Norway
08:44, July 25, 2011      

A 27-year-old man was critically injured after he was shot at in the head, the Norwegian news agency NTB reported early Monday.

The shooting happened at 19:53 local time (1553 GMT) in Sandnes in southwest Norway. The victim was brought to a Stavanger hospital and his condition was reportedly unstable.

Two men were seen by witnesses fleeing from the scene in a red Audi car. Police were hunting for the two suspects.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90777/90853/7450058.html
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« Reply #434 on: July 26, 2011, 01:44:58 PM »

 Steve Pieczenik on AJ yesterday.

    One caller had it right about Pieczenik.  Once CIA, always CIA.  This (the interview yesterday) was CIA disinfo (concerning the Norway situation).

    Your thoughts about Pieczenik.

My response a while back on a different thread (Re: LEERY OF STEVE PIECZENIK? So are N.W.O. prevaricators.):

Pieczenik spoke of the military not attacking U.S. citizens based on moral principles.

This is where moral relativity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism / http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-relativism/) comes into play in our UN educational system. NATO / UN is now conditioning our youth to adapt their morals to suit the situation.

Militaries killing their own people is not a easy matrix to create. It helps if the soldier does not identify with the targeted peoples. Bringing in foreign troops will solve part of this problem. Also, if the right conditions are met, justification for Democide will be morally accepted by the masses.

For example in Okinawa, Japanese soldiers murdered Okinawans (civilians & even Okinawa soldiers fighting for the Japanese) during WWII. Okinawans themselves murdered their own families and killed their friends out of "necessity" as the evil Americans were coming. If an Okinawan surrendered to the Americans, there were Japanese snipers shooting these people. Odd that this seems to have only occurred on the southern part of the Island of Okinawa where the indigenous people were concentrated.

Pieczeniki needs to elaborate on why he feels that the military will not kill American citizens as history proves different.

Pieczeniki is interesting to listen to, but can't be believed 100% of the time.
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« Reply #435 on: July 26, 2011, 02:20:45 PM »

Interesting but it could be anything from a drug deal gone wrong to a professional hit.

Man shot and killed in Sandnes

By Knut Arne Hansen and Wegard Bakkehaug
Published 24.07.11 - 8:15 p.m., changed 25.07.11 - 4:47 (AP)

[A] 27-year-old from Sandnes, was shot in his home on Sunday evening died later of his injuries. Police said the shooting victim was a 27-year-old man. He was transported to Stavanger University Hospital after being shot in the head and later died of his injuries.

Two masked men in military clothing entered the home of the 27-year-old in Sandnes, Norway. One shot was fired at about 19.50 on Sunday night.

- The men visited the deceased were allegedly driving a dark station wagon, says operations manager at Rogaland Police District, Kjetil Føyen, to VG Nett.

Rogaland Police District has launched a full murder investigation and are interested in information from the public.

- He was shot by unknown persons, said Føyen.

Rogaland Avis got the police statement about the incident 19.53.

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080716


Man critically injured in shooting in Norway
08:44, July 25, 2011      

A 27-year-old man was critically injured after he was shot at in the head, the Norwegian news agency NTB reported early Monday.

The shooting happened at 19:53 local time (1553 GMT) in Sandnes in southwest Norway. The victim was brought to a Stavanger hospital and his condition was reportedly unstable.

Two men were seen by witnesses fleeing from the scene in a red Audi car. Police were hunting for the two suspects.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90777/90853/7450058.html

Too true, there's way too little info for a definative link.  But, as with the inconsistencies in the report of this dead 27 year old, curiousity alone prompts the question: was he killed in his home or did he live for a bit and did he talk at all if he lived?  Plus his condition was reported unstable (which is serious or worse) not critical persay, which leads one to believe that consciousness was indeed a possibility.
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« Reply #436 on: July 26, 2011, 04:10:41 PM »

That being said Tarpley's, Watson's, Alex's political analysis trumps anything Dr. P says...heck if Bermas were still on, I'm sure he could do a better break-down of the psychology of that wayward Norwegian!!!

Dr. P seemed very confident in his analysis and quite keen to promote his novel. He expressed no doubts nor did he have any questions about the Norway FF's. His analysis seems to line up with the official story a bit too much for me. There are way too many details to sift through yet for anyone to claim that they know exactly what happened.


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« Reply #437 on: July 26, 2011, 06:02:58 PM »

It's false flag mass murder, 100%.
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It's false flag mass murder, 100%.
           Blood tests, are they a bit and parcal of the criminal investigative branch in Noway. The reason being he ragged on about steroids and how at the end he felt the effects lapsing, or whatever. He then began procuring substitutes. I can't say shiite realy, but if he was on medication, claiming steroids I would be interested to what his blood tests reveal.
           We know there are drugs that induce states of mind, initiate a controll factor, especialy so for those with with symptoms indicating usefullness for the controll artists.
     Ok, a question, a theory, a puzzle, whatever, but I do beleive we are aware the elites sydicate have focused attention on the use of manipulation using these methods.
           
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The Oslo Attacks: More False Flag Evidence
by Stephen Lendman
Tuesday Jul 26th, 2011 1:07 AM
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/07/26/18686067.php

The Oslo Attacks: More False Flag Evidence - by Stephen Lendman

The memorable line from Gilbert & Sullivan's HMS Pinafore explains what's so often true, saying:

"Things are seldom as they seem. Skim milk masquerades as cream."

With considerable mass media help, especially America's, misinformation diverts public attention from vital truths, playing their usual gatekeeper role, providing fiction and irrelevancies, not fact.

For example, initial reports cited Islamic militants, naming Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami (aka Helpers of the Global Jihad), though no one knows if the group actually exists.

On July 22, New York Times writers Elisa Mala and J. David Goodman headlined, "At Least 80 Dead in Norway Shooting," claiming with no corroborating evidence:

"There was ample reason for concern that (Islamic) terrorists might be responsible. In 2004 and again in 2008, the No. 2 leader of Al Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahri, who took over after the death of Osama bin Laden, threatened Norway because of its support of the American-led NATO military operation in Afghanistan."

In fact, no verifiable evidence confirms it. The claim is based on an alleged April 2003 Al Qaeda tape, urging Muslims to strike US, UK, Australian and Norwegian embassies and commercial interests because of their Afghanistan and/or Iraq involvement.

However, past audio and video tapes were later proved fakes. Perhaps this one also. Nonetheless, America's media, including the New York Times, report them as fact, lying for the interests they represent.

The Times also avoided due diligence on why Norway was attacked, instead expressing surprise about an "assault on the ordinarily peaceful Scandinavian country."

Norway, of course, is a NATO member. It has token forces in Afghanistan, and agreed to be an anti-Gaddafi coalition partner for three months, saying in May it would scale down involvement and pull out entirely by August 1.

As a result, the State Department criticized its government's "lack of commitment," concerned it would influence other NATO states to drop out. On June 10, in fact, the Netherlands announced it would continue enforcing Libya's no-fly zone, but no longer engage in air strikes.

Since July 22, Western media, especially America's, highlighted the lone bomber/gunman story, focusing on right-wing Christian fundamentalist Anders Breivik, claiming he alone managed to do the near impossible - plan and engineer a sophisticated, possible multiple car bomb attack, then head off undetected to Utoeya Island, 19 miles away and singlehandedly kill dozens children.

On July 25, Norway's police revised the death toll down to 68, plus another eight bombing victims.

Breivik's alleged motive reflected his neocon right-wing sympathies, anti-Islamization views, and hostility to multiculturalism. Regardless of how many Breivik types agree, they don't bomb government buildings or mass murder children. On July 22, something entirely different happened. Two previous articles discussed it, accessed through the following links:

http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2011/07/oslo-attacks-comment-and-analysis.html

http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2011/07/possible-israeli-connection-to-oslo.html

The first one asked who gains and loses from every terror incident, certainly not suspects charged, convicted and imprisoned. Geopolitical interests always are key.

The second article suggested an Israeli connection because of Norway's Palestinian sympathies, including its support for independence and de jure UN membership, as well as criticism of Israeli settlements and belligerence.

Notably, Eileen Fleming observed that Friday's attack occurred on the 65th King David Hotel (1946) bombing anniversary, carried out by (pre-Israeli) Irgun terrorists led by future prime minister Menachem Begin.

It massacred 92 Brits, Arabs and Jews, wounded 52 others, and Israel's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion (then Jewish Agency head) approved it.

Preceding the incident to the present, Israel carried out numerous terror attacks, and committed or attempted many thousands of targeted killings. Perhaps Oslo on July 22 was its latest, alone or jointly with its CIA and/or other Western intelligence counterparts.

Analyst Bob Chapman, a frequent Progressive Radio News Hour guest, believes Friday's attack was a false flag, citing two reasons:

-- pulling out of NATO's Libya coalition entirely by August 1; and

-- withholding its $42 million contribution to Greece's bailout, calling it a waste of money, sensibly saying the Papandreou government should default.

As a result, Chapman said affected banks "are very unhappy with Norway, and I think that (and pulling out of Libya) was the basis for the attack," adding:

Breivik "at the island was probably there to kill (Labour Party) prime minister (Jens Stoltenberg) who (wasn't at Utoeya island) for some reason. The message to Norway is do what we tell you to do or we'll put a bomb in the middle of your city (as) payback from the banks...."

On July 25, Paul Joseph Watson's Prison Planet.com article headlined, "Anders Behring Breivik: Manufacturing a Patsy?" noting two different Facebook profiles (before and after July 22) describing him, saying:

"The first one in Norwegian was deleted minutes after (his) identity became public." A doctored English version replaced it, changing his profile to fit the crime.

His stated "interest in Winston Churchill and (anti-Nazi resistance) leader Max Manus" was deleted. In addition, his Internet postings "characterize himself not as a populist Christian conservative, but as a neo-con" pro-Israeli supporter.

Moreover, the Council of Conservative Citizens said none of his postings "are extreme or hint at a desire to commit violence." He did say he supported "Hans Rustad, a former Jewish left-winger turned neo-conservative."

The doctored Facebook profile turned a "socially liberal, pro-Israeli neo-con (into) a Christian conservative, white supremacist." Friends also contradict the new Breivik characterization, Ulav Andersson telling Russia Today it's not at all the man he knows, saying his racial antipathies were expressed in "mundane" mild terms, adding:

He wasn't opinionated, and "never came across as some kind of religious fanatic or anything." In fact, he had no defined ideology.

As the old US "To Tell the Truth" TV show used to ask: "Will the real Anders Breivik please stand up?" In fact, he did, but the tape showing it was deleted, replaced by a doctored one, conforming to how Western powers wish to portray him. Perhaps his manifesto was then altered.

Webster Tarpley also claimed a false flag in his July 24 article, accessed through the following link:

http://tarpley.net/2011/07/24/norway-terror-attacks-a-false-flag/

He cites the following:

On Friday, a "special (anti-terrorist) police unit had conducted drills or exercises near" Oslo's opera house downtown when the bombing occurred. Advance information about it was concealed.

In 2010, the same unit carried out live bomb detonation drills, similar to what happened on July 22. Notably, similar coincidental or earlier practice exercises often precede or coincide with real attacks, raising obvious false flag suspicions.

US intelligence agencies recruited Norwegian police, (including Oslo's former anti-terror head) for SIMAS Surveillance Detection Units (SDU), "operating outside of" Norwegian government control.

In fact, run out of US embassies, SIMAS surveillance and spying occurs worldwide. According to Norway's Justice Minister Knut Storberget and Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store, "We never knew about it." Secretary of State Clinton lied, saying they were told.

Washington wants to derail Palestinian independence and de jure UN membership, complicit with Israel, perhaps by any means, including intimidation and mass murder.

Also as payback for Norway's planned ending its anti-Gaddafi coalition participation, a warning perhaps not to do it.

Notably, several eyewitnesses saw two shooters. As in similar past cases, "there is credible to overwhelming evidence that (alleged suspects) could not have acted alone."

The Norwegian newpaper Verdens Gang (VG) said:

"Several of the youths who were at (Utoeya) told VG that they are convinced that there must have been more than one perpetrator. Marius Helander Roset believes the same thing," saying:

"I am sure that there was shooting from two different places on the island at the same time."

"Young people interviewed by VG describe an additional perpetrator - who was not wearing a police uniform. (He) had thick dark hair and a Nordic appearance. He had a pistol in his right hand and a rifle on his back. I believe that there were two people who were shooting, says Alexander Stavdal."

On July 23, Oslo police said several shooters could have been involved. An investigation into both incidents is ongoing.

On July 25, The Views and News from Norway web site (newsinenglish.no) reported that "(s)urvivors of the massacre (said) the shooting went on for nearly two hours," police taking 90 minutes to arrive.

On July 25, the Pakistan News Service (Pak Tribune) headlined, "Analyzing the Oslo attacks: terrorist event or false flag distraction?" saying:

The timing may not be coincidental, occurring "(a)s the sociopolitical tensions in Europe rise, the euro falls, and the debt crisis looms. (It's) another reminder of the ever-present al Qaeda (or in this case neocon Christian fundamentalist) bogeymen (able) to unite the people against an outside enemy."

The Friday attack also occurred after Israeli spies were found operating covertly in New Zealand, stealing identities for "sensitive" missions "like assassinations." In fact, Mossad operates throughout the Middle East, as well as in much of Europe, the Americas, Africa, and Asia, spying and engaging in other covert activities.

Pak Tribune speculated whether foreign intelligence was involved in Friday's attack "to draw attention away from the Israeli operations abroad, the looming financial crisis, the (planned and imposed) austerity measures, massive swindling of public funds, and the crumbling support for" America's multiple imperial wars.

Whatever final conclusions are drawn, Friday's attacks provide "an apt distraction and talking point for those seeking to continue the farcical war on terror."

A Final Comment

A previous article discussed Operation GLADIO (Latin for double-edged sword), NATO's Secret Armies, accessed through the following link:

http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2010/09/natos-secret-armies.html

Run by European secret services, collaborating with NATO, the CIA, as well as Britain's MI6 and Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), it targeted the political left to prevent it from gaining power. Its clandestine missions included bombings, assassinations, and other belligerent acts, believed still ongoing.

Targeting Oslo on Friday resembled GLADIO, this time perhaps a CIA, Mossad, MI6 or joint operation, using Breivik for plausible deniability as a previous article noted.

It wasn't the first time stooges took a fall for others. Notable previous ones included Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray, the alleged 9/11 perpetrators, and numerous other falsely charged victims - never the treacherous Machiavellian villains.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen [at] sbcglobal.net.

Also visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network Thursdays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening.

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