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« Reply #440 on: July 26, 2011, 11:10:35 PM »

This morning on the radio news they said they found explosives on the farm he owned. They didnt say what kind of explosives and how many. Seriously they just wont publish any hard facts. Its like they make everything up just to have something to blurt on the news. While all the politicians scream again for more internet surveillance although last I heard was that the terrorist was on a watch list and his phone and internet already surveilled. But no source dammed...

They are so desperate to log all our internet activity. Your name, aliases, addresses, email addresses, phone numbers, when you did what online, even your passwords.
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« Reply #441 on: July 26, 2011, 11:59:21 PM »

Norway — Gun Facts, Figures and the Law

Stockpiles Gun Numbers

Civilian Guns
 
Number of Privately Owned Firearms
The estimated total number of guns held by civilians in Norway is 1,400,0001
 
Rate of Civilian Firearm Possession per 100 Population
The rate of private gun ownership in Norway is 31.32 firearms per 100 people (or 1 firearm for every 3 people)
 
Number of Privately Owned Firearms - World Ranking
In a comparison of the number of privately owned guns in 178 countries, Norway ranks at No. 441
 
Rate of Privately Owned Firearms per 100 Population - World Ranking
In a comparison of the rate of private gun ownership in 179 countries, Norway ranks at No. 112
 
Number of Licensed Firearm Owners
The number of licensed gun owners in Norway is reported to be 300,000
 
Rate of Licensed Firearm Owners per 100 Population
The rate of licensed firearm owners in Norway is 6.724 per 100 people
 
Number of Registered Firearms
The number of registered guns in Norway is reported to be 1,320,0001
 
Rate of Registered Firearms per 100 Population
The rate of registered firearms in Norway is 28.744 firearms per 100 people
 
Number of Privately Owned Rifles
In Norway, the number of rifles in civilian possession is reported to be 720,0003
 
Number of Privately Owned Shotguns
In Norway, the number of shotguns in civilian possession is reported to be 600,0003
 
Number of Privately Owned Handguns
There are reportedly 720,0003 handguns in civilian possession in Norway
 
Estimated Number of Illicit Firearms
Unlawfully held guns cannot be counted, but in Norway there are estimated to be 500,0005
 
Estimated Rate of Illicit Firearms per 100 Population
Unlawfully held guns cannot be counted, but in Norway there is estimated to be 10.934 illicit firearms per 100 people

Government Guns
 
Number of Military Firearms
The defence forces of Norway are reported to have 295,0706 firearms
 
Number of Law Enforcement Firearms
Police in Norway are reported to have 10,5007 8 firearms

Gun Death and Injury
 
Number of Gun Homicides
In Norway, annual firearm homicides total

2005: 514
 
Rate of Gun Homicide per 100,000 People
In Norway, the annual rate of firearm homicide per 100,000 population is

2005: 0.1114
1993: 0.3015
 
Number of Gun Suicides
In Norway, annual firearm suicides total

2008: 85
2007: 62
2006: 88
2005: 82
2004: 93
2003: 103
2002: 90
2001: 104
2000: 110
1999: 117
1998: 102
1997: 129
1996: 130
 
Rate of Gun Suicide per 100,000 People
In Norway, the annual rate of firearm suicide per 100,000 population is

2008: 1.83
2005: 1.73
2000: 2.36
1993: 3.95
 
Number of Unintentional Gun Deaths
In Norway, annual unintentional shooting deaths total

2005: 2
2000: 0
 
Rate of Unintentional Gun Death per 100,000 People
In Norway, the annual rate of unintentional shooting death per 100,000 population is

2005: 0.04
2000: 0.00
1993: 0.12
 
Gun Deaths from Undetermined Cause
In Norway, annual shooting deaths in which the cause remains undecided total

2008: 0
2007: 3
2006: 1
2005: 2
2004: 0
2003: 0
2002: 0
2001: 0
2000: 0
1999: 2
1998: 2
1997: 2
1996: 4
1995: 6
1994: 6
1993: 9
1992: 9
1991: 11
 
Rate of Gun Death from Undetermined Cause per 100,000 People
ChartIn Norway, the annual rate of unknown-cause shooting deaths per 100,000 population is

2008: 0.00
1997: 0.00
1993: 0.02

Gun Industry
 
Firearm Manufacture
In Norway, the manufacture of small arms, ammunition and/or their components is permitted only if the maker holds a valid licence , but not conducted in practice
 
Small Arms Manufacture - World Ranking
In a classification of the world's small, medium and major firearm manufacturers, Norway is ranked 'small'

Gun Trade and Trafficking

Export Control
In Norway, firearm and ammunition exports are limited by transfer control law
 
Small Arms Exports (US$)
The annual value of small arms and ammunition exports from Norway is reported to be US$53,330,229 (2009)
 
Small Arms Exports - World Ranking
In a comparison of the world's major/mid-level/minor/unknown small arms exporters, Norway is categorized as 'minor'

Import Control
In Norway, firearm and ammunition imports are limited by transfer control law 29
 
Small Arms Imports (US$)
The annual value of small arms and ammunition imports to Norway is reported to be US$115,026,895 (2009)
 
Smuggling Guns and Ammunition
Reports suggest that the level of firearm and ammunition smuggling in Norway is low
 
Regulation of Arms Brokers
In Norway, the activities of arms brokers and transfer intermediaries are specifically regulated by law
 
End User Certificates
Customs regulations in Norway include36 certification of the intended end user of any small arms or ammunition transfer, and/or a written declaration of its intended end use
 
Transparency of Small Arms Transfers
In the most recent survey of state transparency when declaring firearm and ammunition exports, Norway was ranked number 9 among 49 major small arms exporting nations in 2011, with a score of 16.25 points of a possible total of 25

Gun Regulation
 
Firearm Regulation - Guiding Policy
The regulation of guns in Norway is categorised as restrictive

Firearm Law
Guiding gun control legislation in Norway is the Firearms and Ammunition Act 1961
 
Right to Possess Firearms
In Norway, the right to private gun ownership is not guaranteed by law

Prohibited Firearms and Ammunition
 
Regulation of Automatic Assault Weapons
In Norway, private possession of fully automatic weapons is permitted under licence
 
Regulation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons
In Norway, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is permitted under licence
 
Regulation of Handguns
In Norway, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is permitted under licence
 
Gun Owner Licensing
In Norway, only licensed gun owners may lawfully acquire, possess or transfer a firearm or ammunition
 
Genuine Reason Required for Firearm Licence
Applicants for a gun owner’s licence in Norway are required to prove genuine reason to possess a firearm, for example, hunting, target shooting, collection, personal protection, security
 
Minimum Age for Firearm Possession
The minimum age for gun ownership in Norway is 16 years with special consent, 18 or 21 years for particular firearms
 
Gun Owner Background Checks
An applicant for a firearm licence in Norway must pass background checks which consider criminal and mental records
 
Reference Required for Firearm Licence
In Norway, third party character references for each gun licence applicant are not required3
 
Domestic Violence and Firearms
Where a past history, or apprehended likelihood of family violence exists, the law in Norway does not stipulate40 that a gun licence should be denied or revoked
 
Firearm Safety Training
In Norway, an understanding of firearm safety and the law, tested in a theoretical and/or practical training course is required3 for a firearm licence
 
Limit on Number of Guns
Licensed firearm owners in Norway are permitted to possess any number of firearms
 
Limit on Quantity, Type of Ammunition
A licensed firearm owner in Norway is permitted to possess any quantity of ammunition


Firearm Registration
 
Civilian Gun Registration
In Norway, the law requires that a record of the acquisition, possession and transfer of each privately held firearm be retained in an official register
 
Gun Dealer Record Keeping
In Norway, licensed firearm dealers are not required to keep a record of each firearm or ammunition purchase, sale or transfer on behalf of a regulating authority
 
State-Owned Firearm Records
In Norway, State agencies are required to maintain records of the storage and movement of all firearms and ammunition under their control

Gun Sales and Transfers
 
Regulation of Private Gun Sales
In Norway, the private sale and transfer of firearms is prohibited
 
Regulation of Dealer Gun Sales
In Norway, dealing in firearms by way of business without a valid gun dealer’s licence is unlawful
 
Waiting Period for Gun Possession
In Norway, the minimum wait for a lawful firearm purchase to be completed is undetermined
 
Regulation of Gun Shows
In Norway, gun shows and temporary firearm dealing events are not regulated in law

Storage and Transport of Guns and Ammunition
 
Firearm and Ammunition Storage Regulations - Private
Firearm regulations in Norway include47 written specifications for the lawful safe storage of private firearms and ammunition by licensed gun owners
 
Firearm and Ammunition Storage Regulations - Dealer
Firearm regulations in Norway do not include written specifications for the lawful safe storage of firearms and ammunition by licensed arms dealers
 
Firearm and Ammunition Storage Regulations - Government
Government regulations in Norway include written specifications for the lawful safe storage of firearms and ammunition by state entities
 
Firearm and Ammunition Transport Regulations
Regulations in Norway include written specifications for the lawful safe storage of firearms and ammunition while in transit
Marking and Tracing Guns and Ammunition
 
Firearm Marking
In Norway, a unique identifying mark on each firearm is required by law
 
Firearm Tracing
In Norway, state authorities carry out recognised arms tracing and tracking procedures
 
Ballistic Marking of Firearms and Ammunition
In Norway, state authorities do not employ ballistic fingerprinting technology to trace guns and ammunition


Carrying Guns
 
Carrying Guns Openly in Public
In Norway, carrying a firearm in plain view in a public place is prohibited49
 
Carrying Hidden Handguns in Public
In Norway, carrying a concealed firearm in a public place is prohibited49
 
Penalty for Illicit Firearm Possession
In Norway, the maximum penalty for illicit possession of firearms is up to 3 months prison (or 90 days!!!)
 
Collection, Amnesty and Destruction Programmes
Authorities in Norway are known to have implemented voluntary firearm surrender schemes, and/or weapon seizure programmes in order to reduce the number of illicit firearms in circulation
 
Surrendered in Gun Amnesty
In Norway, the number of firearms and/or rounds of ammunition voluntarily surrendered for destruction in recent arms amnesty and collection programmes is reported to be 35,000 (2003-04)
 
Destruction and Disposal Policy
In Norway, it is state policy to destroy surplus, collected and seized firearms rather than return them to the secondary arms market

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/norway
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« Reply #442 on: July 27, 2011, 12:09:22 AM »

There were a fair number of adults on that island, including a member of parliament.  I have heard no heroic tales of these adults going out to catch a bullet meant for a kid.  They included this group:

www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4184561.ece&usg=ALkJrhgg1s1OXgK_xUN-AJ80c9xAcbDtUQ
Norwegian People's Aid(NPA) is an adunct of the Norwegian Labor Movement.  Eight of them were on the island at the time of the shooting.  At least seven survived unscathed.  It is unknown why they were there, but their mission statement says "First aid, mountain rescue and disaster preparedness are central tasks for the voluntary groups." (wikipedia)
Their record is not trouble free:  "...a November 1999 television documentary .. allege(s) that NPA-controlled aeroplanes had supplied the Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA) with 80–100 tonnes of weapons and landmines."  This indicates that this NGO(non-governmental organization) may have been penetrated by the covert operators of the intelligence agencies.
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« Reply #443 on: July 27, 2011, 01:27:09 AM »

Recap from Effie Trinket: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=213041.msg1273629#msg1273629

Breivik had written in his online manifesto that he had purchased 0.3kg of sodium nitrate for 10 euros from a Polish vendor. The substance is used both in Norway and Poland as a meat preservative.

[INSERT: WTF?  NaNO3  Sodium Nitrate?  LMFAO, the only thing you can make with that is sparkler material or crude black powder--it's not a powerful enough of an oxidizer to even make an explosive out of that could damage anything, HAHAHAHA WTF these people prey on everyone's ignorance to an incredible degree.]

Any thoughts anybody? Some info I found:


Fertilizer (NPK) Explosive (?) [content removed by mod]


Fertilizer is a material that is added to the soil to supply one or more elements required for plant growth and productiveness. The major three elements are nitrogen, potassium and phosphorus), the secondary elements are calcium, sulfur, magnesium, and other elements are boron, manganese, iron, zinc, copper and molybdenum. Fertilizers enhance the natural fertility of the soil or replace the chemical elements taken from the soil by harvesting, grazing, leaching or erosion.

Nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium (N, P and K) for various crops and growing conditions. N (nitrogen) promotes leaf growth and forms proteins and chlorophyll. P (phosphorus) contributes to root, flower and fruit development. K (potassium) contributes to stem and root growth and the synthesis of proteins. The common inorganic fertilizers include ammonia (82% nitrogen), NPK combinations, urea (46% nitrogen), superphosphate, mono and dibasic ammonium phosphates (containing nitrogen and phosphate), calcium ammonium nitrate, potassium chloride (muriate of potash).


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In addition: ANFO bombs made of diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate(fertilizer) leave a strong smell of diesel fuel in the air after being detonated.  But that is not what the nosewitnesses smelled:

The Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten:  "You can smell the sulfur fumes," the newspaper's reporter says. http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=213041.msg1272766#msg1272766
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« Reply #444 on: July 27, 2011, 02:09:40 AM »

Great to see exactly the opposite happen of the CIA/MI6 and Mossad objective namely Unite instead of Divide. Great to see all those Norwegian people standing together.

This is great Karma and will put it’s positive vibes into the future. Evil can’t win, they can’t beat us! Cry emotion release.

Cause we are winners, we always will be winners and they .....

.... will always be losers.
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Call to a United Act of Service

The situation is serious. Sea and air and land are arrayed against the Forces of Light; they are the agents of material substance and can be used potently against the spiritual Forces. The forces of the air are, however, increasingly on our side. The Members of the Hierarchy are hard put to it to turn the tide in favor of that true and more spiritual civilization which is on the way. This civilization will be a combination of the best which has hitherto been produced and that which is new and, as yet, dimly sensed by the best of the world thinkers. The tide must be turned in favor of that which we call righteousness.

The seeds of evil are in every country; those who war against that which is good are numerous in every land, whether they war with aggressive and planned intent, whether they preserve an attitude of passivity and acceptance, or a planned neutrality, as in America, or are actively fighting for that which is against the material forces.

The World Crisis was, as you know, inevitable, but physical warfare could have been avoided if right psychological methods had been employed, and it could have been cured if a process of transmutation and of transference had been correctly carried forward, and if the spirit of sacrifice had also been demonstrated by the world aspirants. The need for group sacrifice has not met with adequate response, except in those cases where it has been imposed by governments upon their nationals. Such is the sorry history of what is taking place today.

What can be done at the present moment to arrest defeat and the overwhelming of the Forces of Light? Here I refer not to the outer physical victory. True victory will not be indicated unless the higher values which should govern human civilization emerge with clarity and power. I would here like to emphasize the fact that the tide must be definitely turned before the close of the year if a prolonged conflict is to be avoided. I would ask you, therefore, to [172] participate in the subjective focusing and rallying of the world thinkers, and particularly the heads of organizations, groups and churches of all kinds and temperaments who can swing their many adherents into a uniform and united activity.

The Masters of the Wisdom have no time today to do the task Themselves; Their hands are full, combating the forces of materialism. These forces are active in every country; the Hierarchy in its consciousness does not isolate Germany, even though these forces have chosen that sad land for their major point of departure and enterprise; in Germany They have Their people working as elsewhere. The Masters of the Wisdom are active in dispelling the depressions and terrors which settle down upon all Their workers in the arena of the world today, as these workers struggle to stand steady under the fierce impact of wrong thinking and of worldwide despair; these workers are likewise sensitive (owing to their point of integrated development) to the agony of mind, the tension of emotion and the ravages of physical pain which are felt by all those upon whom the War has had its dire effects, and upon whom it has laid the hand of suffering. Such a sensitivity and such a sympathetic response are apt to produce a condition of negativity and a psychic preoccupation with the immediate situation among all workers, and thus render them deaf to the call of their actual duty or else liable to become distraught by the dual effort of being effective in service, whilst at the same time fighting off emotional reactions. The capacity of the worker to respond, therefore, to the inner voices and to serve dispassionately and selflessly is seriously handicapped.

I challenge all workers and all members of the New Group of World Servers to leave their personal problems behind. This is a time of crisis and such problems must be solved through complete self-forgetfulness. I ask you to work anew with fresh ardor in joyful service, forgetting past weaknesses and failures in the urgency of that which I ask all to do for the world. There has been much lack of joy in the service rendered to the world lately. When I speak thus, I refer not to happiness, which is a personality reaction, [173] but to that joyous confidence in the law and in the Hierarchy which lies behind the Biblical words, "The joy of the Lord is our strength." "Rise up and fight, Arjuna," preserving the flame of love intact, permitting no breath of hate to disturb the serenity of love or upset that inner poise which will enable you to sound forth the clarion note of world understanding, that will rally all men and women of goodwill to the aid of the Hierarchy. This will bring to an end all hatred, separativeness and aggression, which are the three major sins of humanity. All men have hated; all men have been separative in both thought and action; all have been and many still are materialistic, full of pride and the desire to gain that which is not their own by right. This spirit of acquisitiveness belongs to no one group; it has been a universal and general fault, and has produced the present disastrous economic situation, thus precipitating the world into war, hate and cruelty.

The fusion of many minds into one directed activity is today of supreme importance; this has been symbolized in the union which now exists between two great nations, France and Great Britain. Unity of directed thought and purpose is the guarantee of inevitable and future success. The power of massed thought is omnipotent. The potency of focused and directed mental activity is unpredictable. If you accept this premise and this statement, then act upon it.

The Spirit of Peace is hovering close to humanity, seeking opportunity to make His Presence felt. The Spirit of Peace is not an abstract concept but a potent Individual, wielding forces hitherto unfamiliar to our planet. Great Forces are awaiting the hour when They can function as the Liberators and the Deliverers of mankind. But the door to Their entrance must be opened by humanity itself and it will be opened by a united act of the will, expressed through some formula of words and expressed in sound. It will be brought about by an activity performed simultaneously by all men and women of goodwill and by all the world aspirants and disciples. The door will not open unless the act of invocation is backed by the focused will. The [174] directed determination of the man or the group who is using the suggested formula, prayer or invocation is essential.

I would ask you to call as many people as you can reach through the medium of every available channel to a definite activity upon the coming Christmas day, if possible, and again at the time of the full moon of January, thus making two great appeals to the Forces of Peace and Light, so that they may help humanity. I would ask you to get in touch with leaders and workers - important and unimportant - in every land, asking them to associate themselves in their own way and with their own people, and to do this on as large a scale as possible.

The times are ripe for a response to these ideas; the recognized pain and distress of the world will open both hearts and purses. The idea of a Christmas appeal and call to prayer and to invocation of the Prince of Peace will be potent in evoking a desirable reaction, and will serve also to blend into closer unity all who recognize the work the Hierarchy is attempting to do. I would ask you to call for help from all sides, and to let these ideas work out into the world on the basis of their usefulness and opportuneness. Omit from this appeal none that you know, for through them millions can be reached and swung into the desired activity.

To those of you who can appreciate and use the Great Invocation, I would suggest its renewed and earnest use. This alternative invocation might, however, be suggested and found useful:

    "O Lord of Light and Love, come forth and rule the world.
    May the Prince of Peace appear and end the warring of the nations.
    May the reign of Light and Love and Justice be begun.
    Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with us."

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That's exactly what they want, One World Under False Pretenses.

They are succeeding, prepare for the New Age. It's just around the corner.
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« Reply #445 on: July 27, 2011, 02:17:02 AM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8664725/Norway-police-detonate-explosives-found-on-Anders-Behring-Breiviks-farm.html

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Norwegian police late on Tuesday said they had found and detonated a cache of explosives at a farm rented by Anders Behring Breivik, the gunman who claimed responsibility for killing 76 people in twin attacks last week.

They refused however to disclose the quantity or nature of the explosives.


Sounds like they got rid of some evidence.
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« Reply #446 on: July 27, 2011, 03:13:33 AM »

VIA TWITTER

CBSNews: Bomb scare at #Oslo train station as #Norway intel chief says massacre suspect likely part of no wider group:
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A security officer stands guard as parts of Oslo's main railway station are closed and evacuated, July 27, 2011 after a suitcase with no apparent owner was discovered. (Getty)
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« Reply #447 on: July 27, 2011, 03:49:04 AM »

Why does every picture of the massacre (even post 7/22) show the same 2 police men (and women) over and over again.



Same 2 Police Officers

Same Police Officer with battering ram(?)

Same woman Police Officer running in the middle
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Fri July 22nd


Wed July 27th


She must be double shifting Smiley
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Here is a man and a women running to safety - they better get out of there fast!

"WAIT! THOSE ARE AMAZING BOOTS! WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE!?"

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Note the two women just in front of the bus door...

Note the two women crossing the road...
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The chap in the yellow trimmed jacket next to 'strangely crumpled brown jacket' man seems to have the arm of the photographer behind him protruding through his head.
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This is kind of starting to look like something out of the movie Pallywood.

Pallywood - truth in the middle east hollyland, what goes behind the scenes and for the cameras
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« Reply #448 on: July 27, 2011, 04:17:18 AM »


Anonymous bid to destroy Norwegian killer Anders Behring Breivik's manifesto

    By Andrew Ramadge, Technology Reporter
    From: news.com.au
    July 26, 2011 7:00PM

WHAT was supposed to be a mass-murderer's legacy is about to be obscured forever on the internet.

Shortly before his horrific attacks, Norwegian killer Anders Behring Breivik published a 1500-page manifesto on the web outlining his motives and beliefs.

"I ask that you distribute this book to everyone you know," Breivik wrote in the introduction.

Now, a group of online activists are about to do just that — though perhaps not in the way the killer anticipated.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/anonymous-bid-to-destroy-norwegian-killer-anders-behring-breiviks-manifesto/story-e6frfro0-1226102267855#ixzz1TId0ligO
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« Reply #449 on: July 27, 2011, 05:17:34 AM »

Anonymous bid to destroy Norwegian killer Anders Behring Breivik's manifesto

    By Andrew Ramadge, Technology Reporter
    From: news.com.au
    July 26, 2011 7:00PM

WHAT was supposed to be a mass-murderer's legacy is about to be obscured forever on the internet.

Shortly before his horrific attacks, Norwegian killer Anders Behring Breivik published a 1500-page manifesto on the web outlining his motives and beliefs.

"I ask that you distribute this book to everyone you know," Breivik wrote in the introduction.

Now, a group of online activists are about to do just that — though perhaps not in the way the killer anticipated.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/anonymous-bid-to-destroy-norwegian-killer-anders-behring-breiviks-manifesto/story-e6frfro0-1226102267855#ixzz1TId0ligO

Still have an itchy feeling about that Anonymous. Think it's a government front to discreted the internet so they can crack down on it later.

Their actions are childish sometimes (Like releasing e-mail adresses) and lack intelligence.

This action (above) of Anonymous also plays into the revenge feelings of people. Very cheap.
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« Reply #450 on: July 27, 2011, 05:22:16 AM »

Still have an itchy feeling about that Anonymous. Think it's a government front to discreted the internet so they can crack down on it later.

Their actions are childish sometimes (Like releasing e-mail adresses) and lack intelligence.

This action (above) of Anonymous also plays into the revenge feelings of people. Very cheap.

  Yep, just about anything on the internet could be done by a government or governments.

  I still think he either didn't write his manifesto or HE HAD LOTS OF HELP WRITING IT!!!
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« Reply #451 on: July 27, 2011, 05:59:39 AM »



I wonder what could be so funny, when you're carrying a dead teenage body ??
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« Reply #452 on: July 27, 2011, 07:11:13 AM »

Still have an itchy feeling about that Anonymous. Think it's a government front to discreted the internet so they can crack down on it later.

Their actions are childish sometimes (Like releasing e-mail adresses) and lack intelligence.

This action (above) of Anonymous also plays into the revenge feelings of people. Very cheap.
Anonymous has used tactics to make them APPEAR to be anti-New World Order--best example of that is them saying they were going to "expose" Bohemian Grove with "explosive" information.

They are a false flag terror group that is one and the same with "Lulzsec", both are military industrial intelligence complex front groups.  The entire debacle with Sony was a self inflicted wound, where Sony either hacked (or a MIC corporation hacked them) or just simply shut down their own servers, claiming they were hacked (there is ZERO PROOF that they were hacked instead of just being shut down and lying about it--their word is 100% meaningless).

There is no such thing as some random group that isn't part of the New World Order being able to hack into a corporate entity like Sony, or especially luidicrous, is Booz Allen Hamilton (an actual terrorist organization pretending to give a f*ck about actual National Security, when they themselves are false flag perpetrators, were officially documented to be a PTECH CLIENT.  Their systems have Enterprise Architecture cyber security frameworks that have been created over the last 10 years, and managed by NWO corporations like IBM, and Unisys.  THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD PENETRATE THEM UNLESS YOU AHD ACCESS TO THE BACKDOOR LIKE REAL CYBER CRIMINAL AMIT YORAN, OR SOMEONE AT ISRAELI MOSSAD, MITRE CORPORATION, OR SOME OTHER ILLEGAL ANTI-GOVERNMENT AGENCY.

The agenda with Lulzsec and Anonymous is to try to rally criminal vigilantism amonst the American people to get us to root for attacking corporations who the NWO knows most Americans know are evil, so they are attacking people who they know we hate, in hopes to get us to support them.  Same agenda with the false flag Norway alleged lone gunman--he is against many things that are actually 100% legitimate, but his thinktank Tavistock based manifesto writers at CSIS and/or RAND Corporation have thrown in things that are 100% against what any real patriot or freedom loving human being would ever engage in.  Their agenda is to severely tarnish and discredit opposition legitimate threats to humanity--such as attempting to hijack and disempower, and VILIFY the use of the word "traitor".  Since False Flag terror asset Breivik's pathology was psychologically engineered to be as wickedly, incredibly offensive to any respectable, Constitutional (or natural, unalienable rights based) law abiding citizen--he just blanketly referred to children and adults alike as "soft targets" and "traitors".

The New World Order knows that we know WHO THE REAL F*CKING TRAITORS ARE, and they are scared to death, and they are trying to make all of humanity SHUT THE F_CK UP, AND STOP BEING ABLE TO CALL THEM TRAITORS BY IMMEDIATELY LABELING YOU AS PSYCHOPATHIC WHITE AL-QAEDA LIKE BRIEVIK IF YOU DARE SAY THAT REAL TERRORISTS LIKE SIR HENRY KISSINGER, JOHN J. HAMRE, JOHN ARQUILLA OF RAND CORPORATION, ANDREW MARSHALL, PROGENITOR OF THE U.S. IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RMA, 9/11 FALSE FLAG PLANNER, DR. RODNEY JAMES SCHLEISINGER OF MITRE CORPORATION (9/11), DAVID ROCKEFELLER, KEITH R. HALL OF THE NATIONAL RECONNAISSANCE OFFICE (FORMER NRO DIRECTOR ON 9/11 INVOLVED IN THE FALSE FLAG ATTACK, NOW A MEMBER OF THE NAZI, FASCIST CRIMINAL NCOIC (ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINKSI, ETIENEE D'AVIGNON (BILDERBERG STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBER, DESTROYER OF THE US STEEL INDUSTRY, NAZI FASCIST WAR CRIMINAL, ENEMY OF HUMANITY).
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This morning on the radio news they said they found explosives on the farm he owned. They didnt say what kind of explosives and how many. Seriously they just wont publish any hard facts. Its like they make everything up just to have something to blurt on the news. While all the politicians scream again for more internet surveillance although last I heard was that the terrorist was on a watch list and his phone and internet already surveilled. But no source dammed...

They are so desperate to log all our internet activity. Your name, aliases, addresses, email addresses, phone numbers, when you did what online, even your passwords.
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I wonder what could be so funny, when you're carrying a dead teenage body ??

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« Reply #455 on: July 27, 2011, 07:40:57 AM »

Some of these officers had to have been in on it. With compartmentalization, it's hard to know who, though.
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Some of these officers had to have been in on it. With compartmentalization, it's hard to know who, though.

  Yep--almost 2 hours to respond--come on.  I believe they were told to stand down.
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http://tarpley.net/2011/07/24/norway-terror-attacks-a-false-flag/#more-3047

Tarpley on the Norway attacks



Norway Terror Attacks a False Flag: More Than One Shooter on Island; Oslo Police Drilled Bomb Blasts; Was It NATO’s Revenge for Norway’s Decision to Stop Bombing Libya?
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by Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
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Washington DC, July 24, 2011 – The tragic terror attacks in Norway display a number of the telltale signs of a false flag provocation. It is reported that, although the world media are attempting to focus on Anders Behring Breivik as a lone assassin in the tradition of Lee Harvey Oswald, many eyewitnesses agree that a second shooter was active in the massacre at the Utøya summer youth camp outside of Oslo. It has also come to light that a special police unit had conducted drills or exercises near the opera house in downtown Oslo which involved the detonation of bombs during 2010– exactly what caused the bloodshed a few hundred meters away this Friday. Further research reveals that United States intelligence agencies had been conducting a large-scale program of recruiting retired Norwegian police officers with the alleged purpose of conducting surveillance inside the country. This program, known as SIMAS Surveillance Detection Units, provided a perfect vehicle for the penetration and subversion of the Norwegian police by NATO.

A motive for the attack is also present: as part of its attempt to mount an independent foreign policy, including the imminent diplomatic recognition of a Palestinian state as part of a general rapprochement with the Arab world, Norway was leading the smaller NATO states in dropping out of the imperialist aggressor coalition currently bombing Libya. Norway was scheduled to stop all bombing and other sorties against the Gaddafi forces as out of August 1 at the latest.

Finally, the CIA limited hangout operation known as Wikileaks has already furnished a prefabricated off-the-shelf case for incompetence and malfeasance against the current Norwegian government that is doing all these things – in the form of a series of real or doctored dispatches which document the alleged negligence of this government in dealing with the terrorist threat, all in the view of US State Department officials.

VG of Oslo: “Several” Eyewitnesses Say there were Two Shooters on the Island

As noted, world press and media of the Anglo-American school have immediately battened onto Breivik as an archetypal lone assassin cast in the mold of Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, and so many others. The problem for the terror mythographs is that , in most of these cases, there is credible to overwhelming evidence that these figures could not have acted alone. Among more recent loan assassins, Breivik could be compared to Major Nidal Hasan of Fort Hood, Texas, whose shooting spree dates back to November 2009. Hasan is accused of having killed seven people. At the time, it was considered remarkable that Hasan had managed to kill so many armed soldiers on the military base. But early reports suggested that there were one or two other shooters in addition to Hasan. As usually happens, these extra shooters were soon expunged from the hegemonic media narrative.1

In the Norwegian case, the evidence that Breivik was not alone in claiming his fearful toll of victims is clear and convincing. Here are some excerpts from a report published by the Oslo newspaper VG:

“Several of the youths who were at the Utøya the shooting drama, told VG that they are convinced that there must have been more than one perpetrator. Marius Helander Røset believes the same thing: – I am sure that there was shooting from two different places on the island at the same time, he said.

Witnesses: – There were two people

Police believe Anders Behring Breivik (32) is the perpetrator who was dressed as a policeman , and have charged him for two terrorist attacks. Young people interviewed by VG describe an additional perpetrator – who was not wearing a police uniform. The person was following them around was 180 centimeters tall, had thick dark hair and a Nordic appearance. He had a pistol in his right hand and a rifle on his back. – I believe that there were two people who were shooting, says Alexander Stavdal (23)….

At the press conference Saturday morning opened the police said that there could have been several perpetrators and emphasized that there is an ongoing investigation.”2

The presence of a second shooter is of course most inconvenient for the lone assassin theory, since it represents incontrovertible evidence of a criminal conspiracy, the very thing which the media coverage is usually anxious to avoid. In the Norwegian case, the reports of a second shooter seemed to be persistent enough 36 hours after the main event so as to hold out some hope that the entire official version can be brought down on this particular.

Police Had Drilled Setting off Bombs in Same Area During 2010

Another telltale critical sign of a false flag operation is the holding of drills or exercises –allegedly for counterterrorism purposes — by the police or the military at the same time as the terror attack, or shortly before the real terror attack begins. Sometimes, the terror drills or exercises are scheduled to begin slightly after the time when the actual terror attack occurs. For large-scale terror actions, which the Norway attacks were, it is not uncommon for the drills to occur well in advance – 9/11, for example, was the result of capabilities which had been built up over a period of several years, as well as of future drills stretching well into 2002. In these cases, it is often discovered that the self-styled anti-terror drill or exercise contains a simulated action or event which strongly resembles the real world terror attack, the one which actually kills people. The media will then refer to an astounding coincidence or a weird happenstance, but the reality is that the terror drill has been taken live or flipped live in the form of real killings. Once the drill has occurred, the capabilities, hardware, etc., which it has created can remain in place to be mobilized at the desired moment. The secret is that the legally sanctioned drill has been used to conduit or bootleg the actual butchery through a government bureaucracy whose resources are required to run the terror but in which there are many officials who cannot be allowed to know what is happening.

The Norway events provide a very clear illustration of this principle. In Oslo, a powerful bomb went off in or near the building which houses the office of the Prime Minister. Exactly as we would expect, special anti-terror police had been drilling setting off bombs in a nearby part of the Norwegian capital in advance, specifically during 2010. The public had not been informed in advance, but found out what was happening when they began hearing bombs in the opera house district, less than a kilometer away from the prime minister’s office which was attacked on Friday. Here is a report from the newspaper Aftenposten:

“Armed police were seen in the area around the opera house in Oslo, and violent explosions could be heard over large parts of the city. No one knew that this was all a matter of practice. The Information Section of the Oslo police deeply regrets that the public was not made aware of the seemingly dramatic exercise….It was the emergency squad, the national police special unit against terrorism, which was conducting a drill in the cordoned off area at Bjørvika pier. According to a press release from the police, nearly a day after the exercise, the drill consisted of training in the controlled detonation of explosive charges….The exercise will continue for the rest of Wednesday night and a few more explosions are expected….The exercise followed a familiar pattern for all anti-terror forces around the world: The men lowered themselves down from the ceiling and into through the window that had just been blown out, while they fired hand their weapons.”3

Peter Power of Visor Consultants told BBC Radio Five in the wake of the London subway bombings of July 7, 2005 that his firm had been conducting an exercise based on explosions going off in substantially the same stations of the London underground at the same times when the real explosions had actually occurred. The Norwegian events exhibit the same kind of strange coincidence.

A Motive: Norway Had Decided to Stop Bombing Libya August 1

The targets of the Norwegian terror attacks are all expressly political, including government offices and a summer youth camp of the ruling Labor Party, and thus point in the direction of politics. The government of Norway is currently a coalition composed of the Labor Party, the Socialist Left Party, and the Center Party. Norway has traditionally attempted to cultivate a pro-Arab foreign policy, as seen in its sponsorship of the Oslo peace accords between Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in the mid-1990s. The current government has announced its intention of granting diplomatic recognition to a Palestinian state in the near future. When the destabilization of Libya began last February, the Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre of the Labor Party warned Norway’s partners in the NATO alliance against getting involved.

But soon after this, Norway gave in to US pressure and agreed to participate in NATO’s bombing of Libya for an initial period of three months, sending six planes which have carried out an estimated 10% of all the bombing raids mounted by the Atlantic alliance. However, as the end of its three-month commitment had passed, Norway had reduced its contingent to four planes during the month of July, and had announced on June 10 that it was planning to withdraw altogether from the NATO bombing coalition no later than August 1.

The Norwegian decision to drop out of the NATO attack coalition was associated with a similar move by the Netherlands, which was announced on that same day of June 10. The Dutch had decided to maintain their contingent of six planes, but will no longer take part in bombing attacks on ground targets. Henceforth, the Dutch are willing only to help enforce the no-fly zone through air interdiction. There was therefore the potential that Norway’s example could trigger a general tendency by the smaller NATO states to quit the bombing coalition, in which their collective presence is highly significant.

Leading figures of the Norwegian government were among the first to undercut the supposed rationale for the NATO bombing, while urging negotiations: ‘”The solution to the problems in Libya are political, they cannot be solved by military means alone,” Norwegian Prime Minister Stoltenberg told reporters gathered for a conference in Oslo on May 13. “We are very much supporting all efforts to find a political solution to the challenges we are facing in Libya,” he added. Norway’s government …pledged to scale down its role in NATO-orchestrated air strikes on Libya after its current three-month commitment ends on June 24.4

This was the policy of the entire Norwegian government: ‘Norway will scale down its fighter jet contribution in Libya from six to four planes and withdraw completely from the NATO-led operation by Aug. 1, the government said Friday…. Defense Minister Grete Faremo said she expects understanding from NATO allies because Norway has a small air force and cannot “maintain a large fighter jet contribution during a long time.” Norway’s air force, meanwhile says its F-16 jets have carried out about 10 percent of the NATO airstrikes in Libya since March 31. The parties in Norway’s center-left coalition government had been at odds over whether to extend the country’s participation, which was scheduled to expire June 24. The most leftist faction in the government, the Socialist Left Party, opposed an extension, but a compromise was reached to stay in the operation until Aug. 1 with fewer planes. “It is wise to end the Norwegian fighter jet contribution. Now Norway should apply its efforts to find a peaceful solution in Libya,” Socialist Left Party lawmaker Baard Vegar Solhjell said.’5

State Department Complained of Norway’s “Lack of Commitment” to Libyan Adventure

The Norwegian decision to stop waging war against Libya, the first of its kind by any member of the Atlantic alliance, has attracted the attention of diplomatic observers, one of whom commented that the current government in Oslo has advocated “a distinctly more peaceful approach to global policies by the Norwegian government…. [despite] recent pressure from the US on Norway to contribute more in Libya military campaign. Norway has been resisting that pressure and pushing for a more peaceful approach to the US-led NATO attacks on Libya and refused to provide weapons to NATO, finally announcing last month that Norway would quit its military role in Libya by August 1. In March, as the US was rallying unilateral support to invade Libya, Norway’s minister of foreign affairs Jonas Gahr Støre was one of the few nations to warn the US against armed intervention in Libya. Norway initially supplied six fighter jets for Libya operations and has carried out about 10% of the Libya strikes since 19 March. However, US officials singled out Norway and Denmark for their ‘lack of commitment’ to the mission to oust Gaddafi… Other Norway-Libya links include Norway’s major oil- and fertilizer-related interests in Libya: the Norwegian state-owned Statoil, which has about 30 employees at its Tripoli offices….[Norway’s] businesses have conducted major business operations in Libya, in co-operation with Qaddafi’s regime.”6

At the present stage of the inquiry, the best estimate of a motive for the Norwegian attacks is to punish the country for its independent and pro-Arab foreign policy in general, and for its repudiation of the NATO bombing coalition arrayed against Libya in particular.

Are SIMAS Surveillance Detection Units the New Gladio for Norway?

US and NATO intelligence have been shown to possess extraordinary capabilities inside Norway, many of which may be operating outside of the control of the Norwegian government. In early November 2010, the Oslo television channel TV2 exposed the existence of an extensive network of paid assets and informants of US intelligence recruited from the ranks of retired police and other officials. The ostensible goal of this program was the surveillance of Norwegians who were taking part in demonstrations and other activities critical of the United States and its policies. One of the Norwegians recruited was the former chief of the anti-terror section of the Oslo police.7 Although the goal was supposedly merely surveillance, it is possible to imagine some other and far more sinister activities that could be carried out by such a network of retired cops, including the identification and subversion of rotten apples on the active-duty police force. Some of the capabilities of a network of this type would not be totally alien to the sort of events that have just occurred in Norway.

The official name for the type of espionage cell which the United States was creating in Norway is Surveillance Detection Unit (SDU). The SDUs in turn operate within the framework of the Security Incident Management Analysis System (SIMAS). SIMAS is known to be used for spying and surveillance by US Embassies not just in the Nordic bloc of Norway, Denmark, and Sweden, but worldwide. The terror events also raise the question of whether SIMAS has an operational dimension. Could this apparatus represents a modern version of the Cold War stay behind networks set up in all NATO countries and best-known under the name of the Italian branch, Gladio?

The Norwegian government needs to find out. Thus far Norwegian ministers have asserted that they never approved the SIMAS network of SDUs. “We never knew about it,” claimed Norway’s Justice Minister Knut Storberget and Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in chorus. Hillary Clinton stated instead that the Norwegians had been informed.

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« Reply #458 on: July 27, 2011, 10:46:01 AM »

It's too bad more people don't read anything meaningful, and also, don't even know what they should be talking about--instead they waste their life with sports and other nonsense.
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« Reply #459 on: July 27, 2011, 11:21:25 AM »

Agreed. If people want to understand Indira Singh's exposure of Ptech as a conduit for the enevts of 9/11, this statement efficiently communicates her warning of how dangerous net-centric risk management systems are and why they need 1,000 layers of oversight or they need to be banned altogether.
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« Reply #460 on: July 27, 2011, 11:39:57 AM »

The drill Tarpley points to actually happened last year.

Oppdatert: 18.03.10 kl. 09:35  Publisert: 17.03.10 kl. 17:23
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article3569108.ece

He's using the mobile version of the page.  The date on that page updates daily.
Publisert: 27.07.2011 19.38  Oppdatert: 27.07.2011 19.38
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« Reply #461 on: July 27, 2011, 12:17:00 PM »

The drill Tarpley points to actually happened last year.

Oppdatert: 18.03.10 kl. 09:35  Publisert: 17.03.10 kl. 17:23
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article3569108.ece

He's using the mobile version of the page.  The date on that page updates daily.
Publisert: 27.07.2011 19.38  Oppdatert: 27.07.2011 19.38
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He stated it happened last year. These drills are often done in semi-annual, annual, biannual, etc. intervals.
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« Reply #462 on: July 27, 2011, 12:20:43 PM »

He stated it happened last year. These drills are often done in semi-annual, annual, biannual, etc. intervals.

Thanks. Looks like he updated the story.
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http://www.masoniccollection.com/red-cross-of-constantine-breast-jewel-p-87.html


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http://www.masoniccollection.com/knights-templar-breast-jewel-p-50.html


"A fallen Justiciar Knight (fallen in the line of duty) is awarded with the Cross of Martyrdom regardless of the the outcome of his operation.
Red cross with gold outline.
This breast jewel is awarded for heroic and exceptional service, through martyrdom, by defending the indigenous peoples of Europe, European identity, culture, traditions and European Christendom.
Post-mortem award."
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http://www.masoniccollection.com/masonic-knight-of-malta-breast-jewel-p-92.html


"The Knight of Malta Breast Jewel is awarded to all Justiciar Knights who have earned at least 10 commendations (the 5 primary commendations are included, the breast jewels are not)."
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http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110727/local/breivik.377592

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« Reply #464 on: July 27, 2011, 08:42:52 PM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8657727/Norway-shooting-quotes-from-Anders-Behring-Breiviks-online-manifesto.html
from his 'manifesto'
"I have had the privilege of experiencing the following countries: Sweden, Denmark, UK, Germany, Poland, Belarus, France, Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Spain, Cyprus, Malta, US, Turkey, Mexico, China, Nigeria, Cote d'Ivoire, Liberia."

I am not an expert on the travels of the ordinary Norwegian tourist, but I'll bet they like to go to places like Majorca and Tenerife, Thailand and Florida, before they journey to a hellhole like Liberia.  Where did he get the money to go to all these places?  What was he doing there?  It sounds like the itinerary of an intell operative.
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« Reply #465 on: July 27, 2011, 09:14:36 PM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8657727/Norway-shooting-quotes-from-Anders-Behring-Breiviks-online-manifesto.html
from his 'manifesto'
"I have had the privilege of experiencing the following countries: Sweden, Denmark, UK, Germany, Poland, Belarus, France, Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Spain, Cyprus, Malta, US, Turkey, Mexico, China, Nigeria, Cote d'Ivoire, Liberia."

I am not an expert on the travels of the ordinary Norwegian tourist, but I'll bet they like to go to places like Majorca and Tenerife, Thailand and Florida, before they journey to a hellhole like Liberia.  Where did he get the money to go to all these places?  What was he doing there?  It sounds like the itinerary of an intel operative.

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« Reply #466 on: July 27, 2011, 09:30:18 PM »


Liberia is one giant CIA laboratory.

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PARIS — Charles Taylor’s career from rebel leader to Liberian president, diamond dealer and despotic warlord, still holds many mysteries. But this week in a court in The Hague, where he is on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity, he seemed eager to lift the veil on one of them.

Part of the lore surrounding Mr. Taylor is that he broke out of jail in Plymouth, Mass., while awaiting extradition on charges of embezzling $900,000 in Liberia. He told his judges that he did not escape on his own; rather, he said, he was helped by the Central Intelligence Agency.
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Monrovia — A former official of the administration of slain President William R. Tolbert has linked agents of the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to the execution of the 1980 coup d'état.

It is widely believed that the 1980 Coup was carried out by 17 non-commissioned officers of the Armed Forces of Liberia (AFL) of the People's Redemption Council (PRC).
http://allafrica.com/stories/200808061031.html

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By Joseph Fitsanakis* | intelNews | 02.23.2009

LIBERIA’S TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION has heard allegations that a retired agent of the CIA was instrumental in facilitating a vast diamonds-for-arms smuggling operation on behalf of Liberian warlord Charles Taylor. Taylor, who headed the National Patriotic Front of Liberia (NPFL), became the country’s President in 1997. He is currently held by the United Nations in The Hague, pending trial for crimes against humanity.
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« Reply #467 on: July 28, 2011, 02:52:24 AM »


http://www.masoniccollection.com/knights-templar-breast-jewel-p-50.html


"A fallen Justiciar Knight (fallen in the line of duty) is awarded with the Cross of Martyrdom regardless of the the outcome of his operation.
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This breast jewel is awarded for heroic and exceptional service, through martyrdom, by defending the indigenous peoples of Europe, European identity, culture, traditions and European Christendom.
Post-mortem award."
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Breivik's father: I wish my son killed himself
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The father of Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian who confessed to last Friday's twin terror attacks, said he was ashamed and disgusted by his son's acts and wished he had committed suicide.

Jens David Breivik, a former diplomat who lives in retirement in the south of France, said he first learned of his son's attacks from media websites.

"I couldn't believe my eyes. It was totally paralyzing and I couldn't really understand it," he said.

Breivik's parents divorced in 1980, and his father lived in London while he and his mother lived in Oslo.

In an interview with the Swedish tabloid Expressen, Breivik said he and his son have had virtually no contact with one another since 1995 (when Anders was 16), except for a "bland" phone call about 10 years ago.

"I don't feel like his father," said Breivik from his secluded home in southern France. "How could he just stand there and kill so many innocent people and just seem to think that what he did was OK? He should have taken his own life, too. That's what he should have done."

"I will have to live with this shame for the rest of my life. People will always link me with him," he said.

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His father knows about the operation.

What kind of father says something like that before there is even an investigation. He is not confused or shocked, he is reacting as a military man would. Hiis son, the 'apt pupil' is not seasoned enough to limit his words. He has already admitted to a wide ranging conspiracy which includes British industrialists. So now that patsy boy can't keep his mouth shut, poppa bear blurts out "Son, STFU and fall on your sword before everyone finds out every aspect of our false flag operation."
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His father knows about the operation.

What kind of father says something like that before there is even an investigation. He is not confused or shocked, he is reacting as a military man would. Hiis son, the 'apt pupil' is not seasoned enough to limit his words. He has already admitted to a wide ranging conspiracy which includes British industrialists. So now that patsy boy can't keep his mouth shut, poppa bear blurts out "Son, STFU and fall on your sword before everyone finds out every aspect of our false flag operation."

Maybe he failed in his mission by not killing himself... Of course, the reports that he tried to kill himself have not been "confirmed". And if the government doesn't say it happened - it didn't happen, no matter what witnesses say.

WTF! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/Anders-Behring-Breivik-arrested-holiday-island-massacre.html

- They were warned not to reveal their location on social media networks, such as Twitter and Facebook, for fear they could be the victims of future attempts.

WHO THE f**k CARES ABOUT THE FUTURE WHEN YOU'RE BEING SHOT AT! AMAZING!

Complete sequence:

Police landed on the island by helicopter as the shooting continued and sealed off the area but ambulances were unable to reach the scene immediately.

Fredrik Walløe, a London-based Norwegian journalist, tweeted: 'A Sea King helicopter carrying medics has reached the island, but can't land because of continued gunfire.'

Locals were urged to help those fleeing the island.

Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, who had been due to visit the island, told a Norwegian TV channel that the situation was critical.

He said: 'We now have reports of a serious situation there - a critical situation on Utoya.'

Emilie Bersaas, 19, spoke from Utoya last night, from where she could still hear police and helicopters overheard.

She said: 'I'm at a building with the army. I ran here when I heard the shooting. I heard a lot of people running and screaming. I ran to the nearest building and hid under the desk.'

She said there was 'a lot of shooting' and she heard 'screaming from the next room'.

'The shooting came from all different directions,' she added. 'Somebody told me to go under the desk. And put mattresses and pillows on top so I felt kind of safe. It was terrifying.'

She said the shooting was very close to the building and hit it at one point.

'I stayed under the bed for two hours. Then the police smashed the window and came in.'

'It seems so unreal, in Norway this doesn't happen here.  It's something that we hear about happening in the U.S.

'It's weird and it's tough and it reminds us of problems that we should have taken more seriously than we have.'

Simen Braende Mortensen, a guard on the boat to Utoya Island, told VG newspaper he saw a man, aged between 30 to 40-years-old, in a police uniform and bulletproof vest drive on to the Labour Party-owned boat in a silver van.

He apparently had a pistol and a rifle with telescopic sight, had a Norwegian look and spoke in a common eastern dialect.

It is reported he said he had been sent to beef up security following the Oslo bombing, and was shot and wounded before being arrested. There are reports that he also tried to kill himself, but these have not been confirmed.


UTOYA WITNESSES...

Andre Scheie told Norwegian broadcaster NRK he saw between 20 to 25 bodies at the youth camp where a gunman dressed in a police uniform opened fire.

He said he saw bodies on the shore of the Utoya island where the youth wing of the Labour Party was holding a summer camp for hundreds of youths.

He said: 'There are very many dead by the shore ... there are about 20-25 dead.' He also said he saw dead people in the water.

Emilie Bersaas, 19, told Sky News that when the shooting started people started running and screaming.

She hid under her desk for two hours as her building was hit by gunfire.

She said: 'People are very shaken up as we do not know who is fine and who is not. There are a lot of people I do not know anything about.

'It was terrifying - at one point, the shooting was very close to me and hit the building I was in. The people in the next room screamed loudly.'

Some people fled the attack by swimming away from the island, while others locked themselves in buildings.

They were warned not to reveal their location on social media networks, such as Twitter and Facebook, for fear they could be the victims of future attempts
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« Reply #470 on: July 28, 2011, 12:41:47 PM »

Many good points here.

I am not sure if it has been mentioned before in the thread, but another strange thing about the case is that witnesses have said to the media that --

1. ABB was with another Norwegian speaking guy when he bought fertilizer. "They seemed to be friends", said the woman that sold them the stuff.

2. On the evening of July 21st, a man says he saw what he is certain was ABB together with another man. They were in a boat close to Utoya.

We already know that --

3. Several witnesses on the island have said that they saw a second shooter - a dark-haired man with a pistol and a rifle on his back.

ABB was not alone on this. But his manifesto seems to have a lot of very in-depth information about how he goes through this on his own, how he had to lie to friends and family who wanted to visit him on the farm, etc. So it's not easy to say.

The Norwegian police say they only found ammunition from the weapons that ABB used so they believe he was the only shooter.
That makes no sense since others have said there was indeed several shooters.

And what I don't get is, how can a normal guy like ABB who never before had any military training, never had any experience with chemicals, create this huge bomb. Is it really as easy that anyone can do it?!

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« Reply #471 on: July 28, 2011, 02:33:12 PM »

... And what I don't get is, how can a normal guy like ABB who never before had any military training, never had any experience with chemicals, create this huge bomb. Is it really as easy that anyone can do it?!  

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« Reply #472 on: July 29, 2011, 11:02:53 AM »

Can someone explain the shoulder patch, please? I can't find anything like it.

( I saw a biker guy on that LV pawnshop show with a bandana that looked similar tho... hmmm... )

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« Reply #473 on: July 29, 2011, 01:25:43 PM »

Can someone explain the shoulder patch, please? I can't find anything like it.

( I saw a biker guy on that LV pawnshop show with a bandana that looked similar tho... hmmm... )



I've been wondering about that patch myself.
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« Reply #474 on: July 29, 2011, 02:43:47 PM »

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Malta-based Briton Paul Ray may have distanced himself from Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik but he has had to defend his association with two violent Far Rightists he hosted here earlier this year.

Mr Ray, who blogs under the pseudonym Lionheart, constantly writes about his fear of a Muslim invasion of Europe and was linked by the British press to Mr Breivik.

The 35-year-old Briton lives in Malta, having come to the island to “escape the Muslim enclave” he lived in. He was investigated unsuccessfully for incitement to racial hatred in the UK.

Mr Ray’s pseudonym was mentioned twice in Mr Breivik’s manifesto but his blog or real name were never cited.

He flatly denied any connection with Mr Breivik but a YouTube video posted on Mr Ray’s blog shows him accompanying former Northern Ireland Ulster terrorist Johnny Adair and a violent German convicted neo-Nazi, Nick Greger during a visit to Malta.

Mr Ray insisted he had no problem being associated with Mr Adair and Mr Greger, despite their violent past for which they both served prison terms.

“Nobody in a civilised world can condone the actions of someone who has murdered innocent children in cold blood. That is not terrorism; that is not anything other than a crime against humanity. You cannot put what Mr Breivik has done in the same context,” Mr Ray said yesterday when contacted, insisting that neither of his friends had committed crimes against humanity.

The YouTube video shows the three visiting various sites in Malta, including the St Paul’s Grotto in Rabat and other historical buildings linked to the Knights of Malta, which, incidentally, are not connected with the Knights Templar of which all three seem to be fond.
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« Reply #475 on: July 29, 2011, 03:04:00 PM »

Can someone explain the shoulder patch, please? I can't find anything like it.

( I saw a biker guy on that LV pawnshop show with a bandana that looked similar tho... hmmm... )



Here is something I found:  http://zenpundit.com/?p=4217


    The badge of the Justiciar Knight illustrates a white skull, marked with the symbols of communism, Islam and Nazism on the forehead, impaled on the cross of the martyrs. The background is black. The badge of the Justiciar Knight illustrates our patriotic struggle/ opposition against all three primary hate ideologies of our time: Islam, Multiculturalism (Communism) and Nazism.

    The badge of the Justiciar Knight is worn on the left upper arm while the national flag is worn on the right upper arm.

    Our military uniform with commendations, insignia and badges should be worn during the trial after a successful operation in cases where the Justiciar Knight survives. The commendations and insignias should be provided post-operation by an Overseer.
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« Reply #476 on: July 29, 2011, 03:12:19 PM »

This whole thing is just horrifying - anti-christ in action
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Here is something I found:  http://zenpundit.com/?p=4217


    The badge of the Justiciar Knight illustrates a white skull, marked with the symbols of communism, Islam and Nazism on the forehead, impaled on the cross of the martyrs. The background is black. The badge of the Justiciar Knight illustrates our patriotic struggle/ opposition against all three primary hate ideologies of our time: Islam, Multiculturalism (Communism) and Nazism.

    The badge of the Justiciar Knight is worn on the left upper arm while the national flag is worn on the right upper arm.

    Our military uniform with commendations, insignia and badges should be worn during the trial after a successful operation in cases where the Justiciar Knight survives. The commendations and insignias should be provided post-operation by an Overseer.

Oslo blasts accused e-mails suggest he may have friends
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Anders Behring Breivik whose indiscriminate shooting in Oslo on Friday left 76 dead may have been helped by others in carrying out his ''mission.''

The e-mail conversations between Breivik and a weaver from Uttar Pradesh’s Varanasi town Mohammed Aslam Ansari, who had supplied Breivik the samples of the “Badge of the Justiciar Knight,” reveals that the killer may have at least one accomplice.

In one of the e-mails to Ansari, Breivik asks the former to “save the images (high resolution dagger and skull)” that he had provided for future orders and also mentions that the future orders may be given by “another individual”. “Dear Mr Ansari... I almost forgot... please save the image I provided (high resolution skull and dagger) for future order(s). It might be another individual, who makes future orders,” wrote Breivik to Ansari in March 2010.

Ansari and Breivik exchanged a series of e-mails in March last year while they were negotiating a deal for supplying the badges.

In one of the e-mails, Breivik thanked Ansari for sending the badges and praises them for their “professional look”. He told Ansari that he would be “adding the photos from the photoshoot in the catalogue.” He also told Ansari that he should not expect the orders anytime soon. “Do not expect the order any time soon though as the compendium will be released but not published for a few months still,” Breivik wrote.

In another e-mail, Breivik told Ansari that he was not in a position to say when the future orders for the badges may be given. “It can be in one month, 12 months and even up to 18 months,” he said.

more: http://www.deccanherald.com/content/179326/oslo-blasts-accused-e-mails.html
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« Reply #478 on: July 29, 2011, 03:30:50 PM »

I do not believe anyone on this thread is disinfo or non-thinking. On the contrary, all I see are concerned people who are posting information which they genuinely feel will assist the people of Norway and all of humanity in exposing these mass murdering false flags before they are ever used to further compromise the rights of man.

I disagree with you,and right fully so. You know that counter intelligence is in full operation. to be naive enough to believe that there aren't people here using fear tactics to cower people is disingenuous at best and deceitful at worst.

People who didn't Pay attention to one word that i said about this charade and drama being played out do not get the big picture and are having ego tripping moods. I am here to find the truth, the truth I found.

What I want is insightful analysis on how this attack means for the future of the world and the United States. Obviously, there is something big going on here. And  a terrorist attack like this fits in with
the agenda of terror the elites have planned for us. that is why the body scanners are still here. Because the elites can always get their dialectic onto Call of Action and get away with staging the opposing side.

I put out so many words for people to try to understand the bigger picture regarding this attack.

1. A Free mason of a templar. Red Flag here.
2. Father worked for the Nobility of Norway
3. Norway(north Land) is as NWO as you get. Scandinavian white elite power do not have so called rebelions or denial of World policies in the future against Ango British Hegemony. this future has been planned out a LONG time ago.  the ruling class are on the SAME board as the ruling classes in Europe and America.
a. NATO is NOT threatening Norway. that is a farce and always will be a farce.
b. there is no disagreement with Norway and Europe how Norway will deal with it's nuclear situation after Fukushima. this attack has nothing to do with forcing Norway's hands with the nuclear situation.

Anybody can be a terrorist is point number 1.
We must obey government policies in the future so that future terrorist events won't happen in the future
Scare the sheep to make the move off the land. It is a very obvious tactic these people are using.
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« Reply #479 on: July 29, 2011, 03:33:21 PM »

more cui bono politics citing the op/tragedy...

"Alleged Norway killer bought ammunition clips from U.S."

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/07/alleged-norway-killer-bought-ammunition-clips-from-u-s/


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