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« Reply #440 on: January 09, 2008, 05:10:14 AM »

Boston.com - Republican NH Primary results -2.57 AM - 1-9-08

2 min - Jan 9, 2008 -  (5 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRgO0kY-jrU


Did Ron Paul Win New Hampshire?

2 min - Jan 9, 2008 -  (4 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8xgWjFe1cE
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« Reply #441 on: January 09, 2008, 05:27:56 AM »

Its so stupid what they are doing to Ron Paul.Its massive corruption and they don't even try and hide it.Shill pig news presenters wanting to climb completely up the globalists backsides.Its sickening.If I ever seen one of them in public.............well I wouldn't be very nice.
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« Reply #442 on: January 09, 2008, 06:18:15 AM »

All this electronic voting fraud seems awful familiar: HMMM ,Oh I remember it was the Movie with Robin Williams  where he ran for president and won due to the Programming put in the electronic Voting machines that would change peoples votes.

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« Reply #443 on: January 09, 2008, 06:32:00 AM »

All this electronic voting fraud seems awful familiar: HMMM ,Oh I remember it was the Movie with Robin Williams  where he ran for president and won due to the Programming put in the electronic Voting machines that would change peoples votes.



yup total gatekeeping movie showing that no one would actually change the election as a conspired plot, but it might be possible as a glitch.  oh yeah that makes sense.

no conspiracy, just a glitch.
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« Reply #444 on: January 09, 2008, 06:43:26 AM »

It is more than a glitch , it is outright scandalous voter fraud. The people's votes being changed /altered is pure theft of your rights . This Vid shows it, starts getting good at 2:23 into the video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs
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« Reply #445 on: January 09, 2008, 07:06:31 AM »

If you look at what it actually is scientifically.Its not a virus or illegal access its a neural network preprogrammed.It surfs around like any regular packet disguising itself hiding itself its like a normal part of system operation.Then it sees something like one of these voting pc's and it has pre programmed opinions like a human thought to make descisions on what it should and should not do.It alters little things so little that no person could pick them up manually if they pulled it all apart bit by bit.When your dealing with this much data it is easy to slip into the cracks.It moves little things slightly and slowly ads up to its final plan which of course is preprogrammed by the globalist regimes to own governments and people.This is not terminator or any sci fi movie this is reality.
I know 15 year old kids who have similar programs that alter things in a small way over larger data, to get the final result.Alot of it is google ads rubbish which of course they make money from and nothing can ever be said that they did the wrong thing.Can you imagine the scope of the globalist programs?
They would be outside our thinking to say the least.
It doesn't mean we cant beat them by doing things such as what Alex Jones does.Stand outside there hellfests and yell at them and intimidate them.They hate it.They despise it.It annoys them more than you can imagine.It makes them red with anger.And they can do nothing.When we pick up a gun, then its kill or be killed.For now we can stand here and anywhere else, and scream at these Nazi's what they are doing and hamper there plans.That makes me happy im annoying them.
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« Reply #446 on: January 09, 2008, 07:41:09 AM »

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/nh/nh_primary_gop_results_by_town/

What we need to do is simply go down the list, pick a few towns where paul got 0-5 votes, and confirm that there werent more paul supporters there.

like Ellsworth, if we can find 2 people from there that can prove they voted for Ron Paul, then we prove there was fraud.

Also:

Waterville -1
Roxbury - 2
Sutton - zero ?
Wentworth's Location - zero
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« Reply #447 on: January 09, 2008, 07:52:40 AM »

We need numbers in people that are recruiting people working for Ron Paul not just votes. People willing to rise up against back room deals and corruption that is the problem. Folks I talk to see the problems but are unwilling to stick their neck out. Intimidation is their weapon. How do we combat that?
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« Reply #448 on: January 09, 2008, 08:08:38 AM »

Jesus Christ??? what the f**k is going on???

any news on what the Ron Paul team is planning??? this is absolutely bullshit.....they have to count some city's right now...
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« Reply #449 on: January 09, 2008, 08:20:52 AM »

You cant stop election fraud, thats whats going on. Undecided
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« Reply #450 on: January 09, 2008, 09:05:51 AM »

We need to contact the foreign media about this. My wife is from eastern Ukraine where voter fraud was rampant a couple years ago during the pro west "orange revolution". The eastern side of ukraine is pro russia, the western side is pro america. Her family voted for the pro russian guy as did everyone they knew, but the west demanded a recount and when they went back to vote a second time, the polling places were CLOSED and the west won. They never even got a chance to vote a second time.

One thing I notice there... everyone seems to gets bought off with a little cash (sorta like mexico) and if you want to open a business, you gotta pay someone some cash. It sucks, but they dont have high taxes and they dont have ridiculous medicine prices either. At least the fraud there is more out in the open and you can device a way to work around it or buddy up to the nice guys who want a little payola. Here its the same system, but more hidden so you dont see it in daily life, but we see it right now like during the elections. Same crap, different people, thats all.
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« Reply #451 on: January 09, 2008, 09:41:09 AM »

Fox News’ decision to exclude Paul from forum suspect!!!!!

Jan 09, 2008 @ 09:09 AM
By TOM MARTIN
http://www.galesburg.com/opinions/x1925657791

The Register-Mail GALESBURG -

EDITORIAL -- On Monday we said ABC’s decision to leave bottom rung candidates out of its debate Saturday made sense. The criteria was clear: candidates had to come in first through fourth in Iowa or poll at least 5 percent in one of the last four major New Hampshire surveys or poll at least 5 percent in one of the last four major national surveys.

These rules kept candidates Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel and Duncan Hunter from participating. We understood that the network wanted to limit the debate to the most viable candidates. Doing so allowed viewers to see more of the top contenders for the presidential nominations of their respective parties.

Then comes Fox News on Sunday deciding to bar candidate Ron Paul and Hunter from its GOP forum. Paul, a renegade Republican candidate, received 10 percent of the vote in Iowa, which was better than Rudy Giuliani’s 4 percent. Yet, Giuliani was invited and Paul was not. In the New Hampshire primary last night, Paul finished with 8 percent of the votes, just behind Giuliani’s 9 percent and Mike Huckabee’s 11 percent.

The case could easily be made that Paul has little chance of winning the Republican nomination, but Fox News failed to make clear its criteria for inclusion into its forum. The absence of such rules leaves the public to wonder if Paul’s message was the reason for his exclusion. Among his stances, Paul adamantly opposes the war in Iraq.
Limiting candidates based on viability is one thing, keeping them for participating because their message doesn’t fit the network’s taste is quite another. — Tom Martin, editor

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« Reply #452 on: January 10, 2008, 05:34:17 AM »

Giuliani gets 9.11% of the vote in three towns ?
By Zammy | January 9, 2008
According to this stat: http://ronrox.com/paulstats.php
Campton - 604 votes
VOTE COUNT METHOD: Hand Counted Paper Ballots
- Giuliani = 55 votes = 9.11%
Hampton - 3,141 votes
VOTE COUNT METHOD: Diebold Accuvote optical scan ; contractor: LHS Associates/John Silvestro
- Giuliani = 286 votes = 9.11%
Sandwich - 395 votes
VOTE COUNT METHOD: Hand Counted Paper Ballots
- Giuliani = 36 votes = 9.11%


http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=764
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« Reply #453 on: January 10, 2008, 05:38:22 AM »

Greenville NH - 1 1 16 32 5 86 0 0 0 0 2 3
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/nh/nh_primary_gop_results_by_town/

Red is Ron Paul.

Listen, how pathetic is it that you ( Americans ) need voting machines / ballot counting machines for 1100 ballots per precinct on average? Dixville only had 7 votes!

When it comes electing the leader of the free world, why leave anything to chance?... BTW , it might take a little longer, but that would be more interesting than CNN declaring a winner within the first 5 minutes.
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« Reply #454 on: January 10, 2008, 07:45:19 AM »

    Yes, we are pathetic!  I think the way to do these elections is to have the polls close and 5 minutes later have citizens join the election officials to count the ballots.  By the way the entire proceedings should be video taped.  After the officials count the votes the citizens should count the votes.  If a discrepancy developes they should recount that candidate's votes.  After everything matches up one of the citizens should call the state office of the election.  If the state office "changes" anything it will be seen in the precincts videotape that something happened to the vote!  Simple with no technology but a phone and maybe a calculator.
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« Reply #455 on: January 10, 2008, 09:02:30 AM »

i knew the minute i heard the total....i just knew it was fraud, and i feel sorry for barack obama.....its bush all over again. Angry
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« Reply #456 on: January 10, 2008, 09:08:49 AM »

I've called the Ron Paul Campaign HQ yesterday and this morning, and the only response I get when I ask about a re-count is:
"There has been no word yet from the senior staff."
What the hell is that?  We donated $20M to a campaign that won't even verify our votes for him?!  I don't know about you, but I didn't send in my hard earned money to Ron just so he would roll over when cheated out of votes, which of course equal delegates.  Anyone else upset that the campaign hasn't demanded a recount yet?  "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!!!"

Alex, get these jokers from the campaign on today and tell em whats up!
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« Reply #457 on: January 10, 2008, 09:19:32 AM »

I've called the Ron Paul Campaign HQ yesterday and this morning, and the only response I get when I ask about a re-count is:
"There has been no word yet from the senior staff."
What the hell is that?  We donated $20M to a campaign that won't even verify our votes for him?!  I don't know about you, but I didn't send in my hard earned money to Ron just so he would roll over when cheated out of votes, which of course equal delegates.  Anyone else upset that the campaign hasn't demanded a recount yet?  "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!!!"

Alex, get these jokers from the campaign on today and tell em whats up!

there is a recount movement underway. http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=21691.0

We gave money for Ron Paul to have a chance to spread the freedom message to 300 million people.  We are confident once they hear the message, RP will not be denied the whitehouse (but even if he is, we have transformed America). 

It must be done with grassroots and local energy or the liars will just fix the recount like they fixed to count.  They have been fixing recounts since 2004.  But that was different it was Kerry who had a top down campaign.  This is the first time there is a bottom up campaign and they already got caught with their pants down.

There are already over 20 reports of fraud and a few have already been certified fraud by NH precincts.

These guys are so screwed.

BTW - check out Giuliani's connection with SC voting fraud in another thread.

Big house of cards getting blown over as we speak
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« Reply #458 on: January 10, 2008, 09:21:41 AM »

I pretty sure that a candidate has to initiate the recount.  I know Obama is going to lay down to his masters, but Ron too?
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« Reply #459 on: January 10, 2008, 09:22:47 AM »

I pretty sure that a candidate has to initiate the recount.  I know Obama is going to lay down to his masters, but Ron too?

what do you mean, i do not understand
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« Reply #460 on: January 10, 2008, 09:24:07 AM »

ron paul is no lap dog.
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« Reply #461 on: January 10, 2008, 09:26:11 AM »

I mean that a candidate that was in the election must initiate a recount.  In other words, if Ron accepts the vote tallies and doesn't demand/pay for a recount, then there won't be one.  I don't think Ron is a lap dog, but what the hell is going on if he doesn't seek a recount?
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« Reply #462 on: January 10, 2008, 09:30:42 AM »

I mean that a candidate that was in the election must initiate a recount.  In other words, if Ron accepts the vote tallies and doesn't demand/pay for a recount, then there won't be one.  I don't think Ron is a lap dog, but what the hell is going on if he doesn't seek a recount?

glasshopper prease undelstand....

they already fixed the recount.

there is no cheese down that tunnel.

the only way it works is with grassroots and local power. you can start calling people in NH to get a better feel of what is going on.

Let them know the hours you are willing to volunteer in helping the grassroots reffort to recount.

Also donate to granny warriors.

A grassroots recount effort will be very hard to fix.

And in the meantime, since the world knows it was total fraud, another 10 million have woken up from the mind control of the MSM.
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« Reply #463 on: January 10, 2008, 05:24:18 PM »

And in the meantime, since the world knows it was total fraud, another 10 million have woken up from the mind control of the MSM.


You know I think this is very true and take solace in this fact. I really believe this will be their downfall, it will always and forever be their downfall. Because they are too immature and irrational in their logic and thinking, simply put they are like small undeveloped children, whom perceive that if they just pretend that something is just not so, or that something is just not there (i.e. facts or populous desire), it will in fact cause everybody else to feel or think the say way... when in reality it does quite the opposite. Which is also why I believe these people believe in what they believe in, in the first place; their own logic and rationalism fails them utterly and completely, hence they seek comfort in fairy-tales such as corporatism, eugenics, ritualism, power, control, manipulation, etc.

Perhaps even this is attributed to an undiscovered mental illness similar to those that supposed medical experts cunningly find every few years to exist within our nations children and turn to some new miracle drug that conveniently hits the market for the cure. Perhaps these individuals should be forcibly diagnosed and treated with such an illness in a similar though slightly more kindly manner then our nations children are... even is there is not factual evidence that such a mental illness even exists... perhaps this would solve many of our worlds problems. Perhaps this illness could be labeled as: NWO-TISM, Sycophantic Schizophrenia, Bi-Polar-Elitism, Reality Avoidtism, or perhaps they just suffer from a very real case of delusions of grandeur. If only.

They think we are stupid, meanwhile they are the ones struggling to conceal the truth from an ever-growing number of concerned citizens. They have become the proverbial firefighter in the middle of scorching forest blaze with no water left in their hose. We have become the mighty Elk running within our enlarging pack, engaging our migration journey... make no mistakes fans of the Fox we will reclaim our Republican America and we will expose each and every one of you, from beneath your sheepish apparel. You fool us no more.
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« Reply #464 on: January 10, 2008, 05:35:06 PM »


Diebold Optical-Scan Failures Reported in Florida May be Affecting Connecticut As Well
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5320
Guest Blogged by Dori Smith of LINK Talk Nation Radio
11/20/2007 12:05PM 

Faulty Memory Card Connectors, Undisclosed by the Company or the U.S. Elections Assistance Commission, Discovered in Recent Election

Employee from New England's Diebold Distributor, LHS Associates, Barred from Work in Connecticut After Alarming Public Comments at The BRAD BLOG...



Failures in optical-scan voting systems made by Diebold Inc., as recently revealed in the state of Florida, might have occurred elsewhere across the country. In fact, any state where Diebold's optical-scan voting machines are in use might be having the problem, and they may not have been made aware of it --- either by the company, or the U.S. Elections Assistance Commission (EAC) which is mandated by law to be a "clearinghouse" for such information.

A faulty connector-pin on Florida's Diebold optical-scan systems --- affecting some 4.5% of the state's machines, and as many as "one in 10 during the November 2006 election" in some Florida counties, according to a recent LINK investigative report by the Daytona Beach News-Journal --- has been identified by the company as a "J40 connector".

It now appears that Connecticut's voting machines, made by the same company, are being affected by the same problem.

“This is Connecticut, not Volusia County," President of LHS Associates, Connecticut’s vendor for Diebold AccuVote OS machines, told me during a recent, bizarre late-night phone call. I felt pretty certain he was right, though his call came in to my home at 1:30 in the morning, so I was still a bit groggy.

LHS's John Silvestro had picked a strange time to return my call from a week earlier. We’d been following LHS’s role in addressing memory card failures during Connecticut elections since 2006 on LINK Talk Nation Radio, and I wanted to know how many memory cards LHS had to replace before, during, and after the 2007 election.

At that hour, I declined his offer to "do the interview anyway," though we did touch on the basics of my inquiry. Did Registrars contact LHS to request replacements for "blown" memory cards as pre-election tests were being run? If so, a study currently underway at the University of Connecticut might not have been given the correct data to determine the true number of failing cards.

Silvestro asked me, "What would you say if I said Connecticut's failure rate was less than one percent?"
Perplexed, I told him I would say "OK" and we agreed to discuss the matter at a later time when he might have access to his records, as he had said he didn't have numbers in front of him at that late hour.
He wouldn't be the first LHS official to exhibit bizarre behavior. After jarringly inappropriate comments left at LINK The BRAD BLOG several months ago, one such official was told he was no longer welcome to work in the state of Connecticut.

Confusion in Connecticut

Diebold, and their New England distributor, LHS, failed to inform Connecticut officials about the J40 problem as found in the state of Florida where the hardware in the voting systems is the same, according to experts we spoke to. If the same problem is occurring in Connecticut, the company’s decision to keep quiet about it may have contributed to widespread confusion over just what may have caused recent voting machine failures.
Diebold's Premier Election Systems has not yet responded to our calls seeking details.

Memory card failures can cause machines to fail outright, but they may also cause strange shifts in the numbers. Such a scenario may explain variations in results in recent elections in Connecticut. Audits of voting systems used during the 2006 election found significant variations in machine versus hand recounts and audits, but the problem was kept quiet, according to LINK a report [pdf] by George Barnett of election watchdog, True Vote Connecticut.  Similar fluctuating totals during the 2007 election have left town officials puzzled, as a number of memory card failures have been reported.

Diebold, whose elections division has now been renamed "Premier Election Solutions", had been tracking similar data in Florida and knew about the memory card problems for some time prior to the 2007 election. Yet, neither they, nor the U.S. Elections Assistance Commission (EAC), established in part as a "clearinghouse" for such information, have warned states using the same equipment about the confirmed problems.

It is a story that smacks of cover-up, possible collusion between manufacturers and any number of vendors, and potentially criminal concealment of problems with voting machine technology in states which use Diebold's optical-scan voting machines.

News-Journal reporter M.C. Moewe has been tracking this story in Florida, where she's reported high failure rates for memory cards and where Diebold ultimately replaced cards just prior to the 2007 election in the wake of her report.

Following LINK her initial story, Moewe published LINK an interview on November 12th with Christopher D. Riggall, the communications manger for Diebold Inc.'s Premier Election Solutions. He said engineers had been able to identify faulty "J40 connectors" in their optical-scan systems, and he admitted Diebold might have to replace the parts in Florida's machines.

More disturbingly, Riggall told Moewe the company would address problems in other jurisdictions only "on a case by case basis". He said they would only respond after customer complaints had "identified...a concern." In other words, if the states using the scanners didn't ask, Diebold wouldn't tell.

And LINK neither would the EAC.

State Officials Left in the Dark

As the EAC, Diebold and LHS had all failed to notify jurisdictions outside of Florida of the possible problems, the exchange between Moewe and Riggall was a revelation for Connecticut's Deputy Secretary of State Lesley Mara. When I asked Mara if Diebold had ever notified her office about potential problems with memory cards on the machines her response was a forceful, "no!"

She and Democratic Secretary of State Susan Bysiewicz had recently commissioned a top down review of memory cards from the University of Connecticut's Voting Research Team, as led by computer scientist Alexander Shvartsman. The team is under contract to provide voting machine security assessments for Connecticut.

The Secretary of the State's request for research into memory cards was partly due to LINK Talk Nation Radio's 2006 reports about card failures that came up during last year's Congressional race. We had conducted interviews with three LHS staff members who had worked the polls last year in Connecticut with back up memory cards in their pockets and back up voting machines in the trunks of their cars. That, despite the fact that the state's voting machine security protocols, under Connecticut Statute 9, prevents them from even touching the machines.

One by one, the employees filled my radio listeners in with details on how they'd address voting systems failures by opening machines to make memory card replacements on the spot.  An LINK illegal memory card switch --- swapping out the sensitive cards which store voting data and which can also be used to insert malicious code into the systems --- was made by an LHS staff member in Montville, CT during the LINK recount of the 2nd Congressional District.

The election moderator in Montville, Lorraine Elliot, told us an LHS staff member used a card that had been hand carried to the polls. From her description, it seems Elliot may have come across an incident which sounds as if it involved the same kind of problems with pin configurations that has been identified in Florida's machines.

She told us that she "had set up a new machine and we put the memory card in and it didn’t work. It didn’t print anything out. So we took that one out and put another one in and the same thing with the second one. It didn't print. I don’t know how the memory card actually works but the little prongs, I guess, sometimes they don’t actually touch the inside? So the third card that we got from LHS worked fine."

As they prepared security protocols for 2007, officials from the Secretary of the State's office and the UConn Voting Research Team team visited LHS Associates in Methuen, MA. There, according to Deputy Secretary of State Lesley Mara, LHS staff members showed them the company's rapid response center where LHS staff members rush to replace failing memory cards as elections continue. They rush the newly programmed cards out to the polls.

Some states allow the practice. Yet, the same practice may have resulted in an artificially low rate of reported memory card failures. Hard data from the company is difficult to come by. Moewe's LINK initial story for the News-Journal detailed Diebold's refusal to release data they had collected on memory card failures in Florida, citing it as "proprietary business information."

My findings during the 2006 election were also revealing. LHS was in position to keep memory card failures quiet, and there has been conflicting information about whether or not they had informed Secretary of the State Bysiewicz when cards had failed.

Our preliminary information on the 2007 election is that the UConn team has identified memory card failures during their initial testing. The failures occurred in consistent ways that the team is said to be looking into. They have yet to produce a report on the memory card research, as cards were still arriving at the lab to be tested as of last Friday afternoon, according to Deputy Secretary Mara.

After Moewe's revelations in the Daytona Beach paper, we phoned Deputy Secretary Mara to let her know that Florida's problem could be affecting Connecticut machines as well.

It's a good thing we did, since neither the vendors, nor the EAC had done so.
The EAC, as reported multiple times by LINK The BRAD BLOG (eg. LINK here and LINK here) has refused to send out such alerts themselves. Two reports by the Government Accountability Office, LINK in 2005 and again LINK in 2006, have been highly critical of the federal agency for their "continued absence of a national clearinghouse for voting system problems" as mandated by the 2002 Help America Vote Act (HAVA).

Per Mara's request, I remained on the line while sending her the transcript of Moewe's interview with Diebold's spokesperson admitting that the company would only respond after customer complaints of problems. She immediately forwarded it to UConn's Professor Shvartsman, who quick replied back to say he was aware of "noise about memory connectors on the Internet and non trivial faulty ones," she said.

Mara explained that "noise" was Shvartsman's way of describing the type of issues we were talking about. She added that, at some point, LHS mentioned a problem to the team having to do with "bent pins."

It was the Deputy Secretary's impression that Shvartsman is now aware that there could be a problem with Connecticut's machines. She said she'd consider writing to Diebold immediately in order to ask company executives why they had failed to inform Connecticut officials about the problems they had found in Florida.
The State Election Enforcement Commission is already investigating a complaint we filed on October 30, 2007. It has been assigned as docket number 2007-385. The complaint asks Connecticut officials to investigate LHS Associates and the handling of memory cards, as well as to provide research into Connecticut's voting machine security protocols. The complaint points out that the vendor and/or manufacturer have a strong motive to conceal such problems.

Meanwhile we are continuing our own investigation into several reports of memory card failures. We have done just a handful of interviews so far. Deputy Secretary Mara said she knew of two card failures during the election.

LHS Official Barred from Work in CT

LHS has proven to be less than agreeable to concerns about the voting systems they distribute across New England. Recently, their Director of Sales and Marketing, Ken Hajjar left LINK a surprising comment in reply to LINK a BRAD BLOG story about Diebold. Hajjar's impolitic comment began "Dear Brad, you are totally full of shit."  He went on to charge, "You have no idea how elections are conducted and how many safeguards are in place, including human oversight," before referring to Election Integrity advocates as "paranoid" and "deluded".

Unfortunately, the comments were not out of character from previous interviews I'd done with him.
Hajjar's underlying resentment cropped up during my 2006 interview with him, when he charged that my questions were, "an indication of just how dangerous the Internet has become". And when we touched on the UConn team's reports he blurted out, "I've read every report in America, some of which are frankly superfluous".

It was just plain impossible to follow all of Hajjar's various contradictory, and often confusing statements. For example, Hajjar LINK admitted he had seen Connecticut's voting machine security protocols, which had been faxed to LHS in MA. He said, "I was given one sheet of paper which was the Secretary of State’s rules and I was just told 'don’t touch anything just answer questions.' So I don’t have that with me, and I’m not even sure what I did with it. I might have just thrown it away once I got through".
A few minutes later, when asked who would be on site, to either repair or replace the machines if there were problems during elections, Hajjar said, "Either a representative of the town or a representative of the vendor." He then explained, in some detail, about how they would open machines, in apparent violation of state law, to change memory cards during the elections.

Other LHS staff members we spoke with, including Mike Carlson and Tom Burge, provided similar comments. They said they would open machines up during an election and swap memory cards as needed. This is illegal under Connecticut law and LINK Deputy Secretary Mara told us she has since informed LHS that such actions were in violation of Connecticut election laws.

In 2006, as Hajjar argued in favor of their policy to change cards during elections, I asked him about about the laws which govern chain of custody issues. His response: "I mean, I don't pay attention to every little law. It's just, it's up to the Registrars. All we are is a support organization on Election Day".

He said he had three memory cards in the trunk of his car and, in the event they had to be used, the chain of custody issues wouldn't matter since, "once you run the [pre-election] test deck through, you're golden". 
"We would have a whole bunch of machines in the trunk in the car and we hope the phone doesn't ring, but if it does somebody tells us where to go, we replace the machine and then we go on our merry way," he declared.

Hajjar also argued that the first use of the new machines in 2006 "was perfect". But LHS President John Silvestro has since admitted that there were failures of memory cards in the state that year and he has offered his interpretation that his staff was confused between laws in Connecticut versus other states where the company provides services.

As I struggled to pin Hajjar down on these matters, he cried, "Madam you're the reporter I'm the machine guy! I don't tell you how your presses run, don't try to get me on semantics. The machine either sees or does not see. If it sees it counts. If it doesn't see it doesn't count."

Ken Hajjar's bluntness finally caught up with him this year. Following his less-than-appropriate comments at LINK The BRAD BLOG, he has informed by Connecticut officials that he is no longer welcome to work in the state.

Just as well. His patience for dealing with these issues was clearly running thin long ago. "You cannot...you wanna go into the booth and tell the voter how to fill in the oval?," he asked me in 2006. "You wanna slap 'em across the face if they don't fill it in right?"

It was his boss, Silvestro, who had called me at 1:30am recently. The one who had informed me that "This is Connecticut, not Volusia County."

He was mostly right.

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WILL RON PAUL AUTHORIZE AN AUDIT OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY?
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By: Devvy
January 10, 2008
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While the political pundits chatter on about the shocking "upset" in the New Hampshire primary between Marxist Hillary Clinton and 'No Change' Barack Obama, there is a storm brewing regarding the vote count for Congressman Ron Paul.

Regular readers of my column know I have been on the vote fraud issue since 1993. It is real and has dominated our elections since the late '60s. While the corporate media flunkies have been diligent in their efforts to marginalize and crush Dr. Paul's run for the White House the past several months, his support has swelled and along with it, the necessary cash to run a viable campaign. [See this excellent DVD on vote fraud "Hacking Democracy"]

Those of us who have followed the events taking place in this country the past couple of decades are fully cognizant of how the shadow government operates behind the curtain and feeds the peasants (you and me) what they want the people to know and make sure via technology, that enough of their kind are "elected" to higher offices and stay in office. Over the past eight years, I have watched the anger and activism over vote fraud continue to grow as more and more Americans have finally come to the realization that the ballot box no longer belongs to we the people.

This presidential election, and I say this after being in the trenches full time for 18 long years, this is our last hope of putting a true man of the U.S. Constitution and freedom in the White House. These primaries are critical because the delegates to the Republican National Convention this summer which will pick the GOP candidate are being pledged during this process. That's why every single vote counts and it's our right to have every vote counted.

Iowa was a dismal affair with Dr. Paul allegedly coming in fifth place with 10%. As I wrote in my last column, in several counties in Iowa, Dr. Paul pulled in 35%, 14%, 15%, 21% and several with 12% of the vote. Of course, that didn't make the "news" on any cable or "mainstream" network. I didn't believe the final count because I know better. The machines are in control and the powerful elites who rule our lives intend to install their new puppet in the White House regardless of what we the people want.

While I don't follow vote fraud activist, Jim Condit, a friend sent me a link to a piece written by Condit regarding the efforts in Iowa to get an open vote, how they were kicked in the teeth by the GOP heavies and the problems they encountered. What he describes is what I encountered in 1996 when I ran (GOP) for Congress: the local and state machine cared nothing for the truth, only how many backsides they could kiss in their quest to climb the political ladder to power. Believe me, I experienced and watched it first hand. After that primary I walked from the GOP because I could no longer support a party that cared nothing for this country or the truth, only whose boots they could spit and shine making them feel important in their magniloquent little worlds.

I found these comments particularly disturbing in Condit's recounting of events: "3. Right after the hour radio show, -- so many irate Iowans called the Iowa GOP headquarters demanding to know why they were using the discredited Diebold machines, that the Iowa GOP made an appeal to the Ron Paul paid staff in Iowa to send out an email asking Ron Paul supporters to quit calling GOP headquarters! The email, sent out by RP paid staff member, Jeff Frazee, to Ron Paul supporters was nasty; it told them to “Stop it”, regarding any more calls to the political thugs at Iowa GOP Headquarters. He also said that the RP paid staff was doing everything they could to insure a fair count, which was a blatant falsehood, as they did nothing but support the Iowa GOP in their unconscionable, secret count of the votes (behind police guard)." (Regarding the Diebold Machines, please see my last column because it contains links to many items on the corrupt Diebold machines.)

Next we have the fiasco two days ago in New Hampshire. The first incident was a report that two family members had voted in Sutton, New Hampshire, but the returns showed 0 votes cast for Dr. Paul. This 0 vote count was displayed on prominent sites like politico.com. On January 9, 2008, the day following the farce out in New Hampshire, Bev Harris, of BlackBoxVoting.org, called the county clerk's office in Sutton and, oops, the vote count for Ron Paul was 31:

Update January 9 am PST: Town of Sutton Confirms Ron Paul Totals were 31, not zero. "I just got off the phone with Jennifer Call, Town Clerk for Sutton. She confirmed that the Ron Paul totals in Sutton were actually 31, and said that they were "left off the tally sheet" and it was human error. This is not an acceptable answer, especially because one of the most common forms of fraud in a hand count system is to alter or omit results on the reporting sheet. Hand count is lovely, transparent. They then fill out another reconciliation sheet, often in front of witnesses, and it looks fine. Then they provide a summary or media sheet with the incorrect results."

Bev Harris is amazing and the input below from her is just the beginning of unraveling the fraud in New Hampshire: "One noticeable thing on the 59 screen shots I grabbed between 10:45 pm NH time and midnight NH time, is that the ones that had late results (not submitted as of 4 hours after poll closing) -- well, you'd expect them to be hand count locations, right? Nope. Mostly Diebold locations. That's a major red flag to me. How the heck can you not push "print" for four hours??? It normally takes only 30 minutes to wrap things up and print the poll tape when the polls close.

"My method was grabbing the municipalities left to right, right to left, starting at the south end of the state and working up. I only got about three rows up. Anyone who has additional time slice information documenting late reporters I'd like to see it. Late reporters from the first 59 locations I grabbed":

Brentwood - Diebold location - had the Dem results, but no Republican results as of 11:53 pm (polls closed at 7)
Chesterfield - Hand count location - no results as of 11:00 pm
Derry - Diebold location - no results in as of 11:42 pm
Fremont - Diebold location - no results in as of 11:48 pm
Greenfield - Hand count location - no results in as of 11:52 pm
Hampton - Diebold location - results in on time, but I flagged this because every Dem candidate had a result divisible by 5 and for Republicans, Huckabee 217, McCain 1217, Romney 1217, it just looked weird. So much for my statistical capabilities.
Hollis - Diebold location - results not in as of 11:54 pm
New Ipswich - Diebold location - results not in as of 10:52 pm
Newton - Diebold location - results not in as of 10:58 pm
Pelham - Diebold location - results not in as of 10:56 pm
Temple - Hand count location - results not in as of 11:26 pm
Winchester - Diebold location - results not in as of 10:46 pm

McCain was declared the winner by several networks 17 MINUTES after the polls closed. Same thing I wrote about in my last column. With a few precincts "reporting" or "projected," it's all over - even before the bulk of ballots are "counted" by the machines. What a farce.

If you will go to this link on BlackBoxVoting.org and scroll down a ways, you'll see a chart comparing Towns with Paper Ballots and Towns with Diebold Machines. The results are stunning for the Clinton/Obama race. I also recommend you book mark and read over the weekend: '99 Ways to Steal Elections: The Story of John Fund and Ron Paul' by Melinda Pillsbury-Foster, where she writes:

"The book, “Stealing Elections,” was written as cover for plans already in motion. When did those Diebold Machines have their software installed? Who wrote it? We really need a time line here. When his book hit the market John was disappointed that it did not get more of the same kind of treatment that routinely is accorded to Ann Coulter's vitriolic offerings. But he was supposed to have finished it several years before, so what could he expect? Disinformation tools have deadlines.

"Diebold Machines, purged lists, a book that positions election fraud as committed primarily by Democrats; When you put the means for stealing in place in advance it is no accident. This corporate strategy, intended to cement the control of their markets so that America becomes one big company town, is theft on a scale that boggles the mind. The means for stealing elections have multiplied over the years. No new technology is left unplumbed for its possibilities for ensuring the corporations their continued stream of income. John and his cadre of pundits and media personalities, for instance Sean Hannity, simulate popular opinion. Their think tanks, like Cato, are to persuade us to accept their ideas. They are paid a lot, so they must know, right?"

Here's the bottom line for me. There is no question in my mind and heart that Congressman Ron Paul is the only true statesman in Washington, D.C., in my lifetime and the only man who can take on what will be happening by the end of this year on the economy, endless wars and other issues. Last week I read the most superb, concise explanation on Ron Paul and his candidacy. Thomas J. DiLorenzo's words rang with such sweet truth, I read it twice: The Jefferson of Our Times. This isn't just another ho-hum, rah-rah election and we cannot treat it as such.

The question is this: Had these voters not stepped forward and put their complaint on a Ron Paul blog site, would the county clerk have corrected the "error" and Dr. Paul's real vote numbers entered as official results? Does her excuse ring true? Not to those of us who have been into the vote fraud issue for so long. How many more missing votes are there for Ron Paul?

This whole process is a travesty. Ron Paul is moving on to the next primaries, but what about the mess left behind? He simply can't afford not to get those delegate votes. One thing people aren't paying enough attention to is that each of these primary "events" gets the candidate convention delegates. Go to this news item which gives the delegate count. Ron Paul has zero. If he doesn't start racking up those convention delegates, forget the White House. He can't do that if the vote is being stolen because those delegates hinge on the vote. Rasmussen had Dr. Paul at 14% for New Hampshire. FAUX had him at 8% all day and the machines made sure it stayed that way to the final "count." The chatter all over electronic and print media the day following the primary: all these polling orgs have egg on their faces! It's called eating their own when it's expedient - place the blame away from the true culprit. The bull, the cape and the matador.

I don't know who is advising Dr. Paul or if he's even being told what's going on. There is no shame in a candidate paying for a hand recount. The shame is doing nothing about it and moving on as if everything is okay. It's not. Look at all these dedicated Americans fighting for every vote for Ron Paul. Is his campaign simply going to blow off this fight for his votes? In four days it's Michigan, the same thing happens and his campaign just says, oh well, off to the next state?

Right now the polls are showing Congressman Paul at a pathetic 4% for South Carolina. That state is considered a crucial one, yet South Carolina is going to use voting machines banned in other states! (see here) There will be NO delegates for Dr. Paul if this happens because the machines will keep the vote count below 10%. Take ten minutes to watch this test of a vote counting machine where 6 no votes and 2 yes votes are fed into it. The demonstrator confidently hits the button to get the vote tally. The results: 7 yes and 1 no. The demonstrator is shocked. Not me. This is what's happening to our elections and Ron Paul is the number one target in the presidential race on the GOP side.

If this continues into "Super Tuesday," Feb. 5th, it will be all over for Ron Paul. If there isn't some accountability at this stage, we're going to see more of the same. Same old game I've watched for 14 long years when I became aware of fraud fraud. As hard as this quiet, decent and honorable man has worked during his candidacy and for all the dedicated supporters of his, how can you simply over look what's going on and not challenge it? What message does that send to supporters? How can a candidate expect his ground troops to get out there and fight for every vote for him, if the candidate won't even make the effort to verify every vote has been counted fairly when there is evidence of vote tampering? It's not money for a hand recount because we have opened our wallets big time. There are things that simply must take priority.

I've encouraged Ron Paul supporters to continue contacting his NH Campaign HQ and ask them if there is going to be any audit of a dozen or so precincts. So far, several have gotten no where with claims by the staff that they don't know anything about what's going on with the vote count! This bothers me to no end. There has to be a fight for honest votes by the candidate, otherwise hope dwindles and so will the cash. So will the hope. Nobody had any wild and unrealistic expectations Dr. Paul would win New Hampshire, but his massive number of wins in straw polls simply doesn't jive with the alleged vote Tuesday night.

Will Ron Paul authorize an audit of a cross section of precincts or let this fraud stand?

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« Reply #466 on: January 11, 2008, 12:40:59 AM »

That's Just Pathetic.
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« Reply #467 on: January 13, 2012, 09:11:59 PM »

Wait for all the excuses to come out in a few hours and will be said by CFR officials...

"It was just a little mistake"

"Someone forgot to communicate to the webmaster"

"Anyone who believed it is obviously stupid"

"These things happen all the time"

"My dog ate my homework"

"An old friend came in from out of town"

"My suit was late from the cleaners"

"There was a terrible flood"

"Locust"

"I swear to god it wasn't my fault"


Noted.

oh my god! what the hell!?

That was my reaction, too.

The fix is in

Ron Paul is placing 5th in blatant fraud!!!!!!!!!

Screen shot the results!!!!!!!!!!!!

Show the fraud to the world!!!!!!!!!!!


Does anyone know where the screenshots are?

FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

67    Rochester -Sheryl Eisenberg    Rochester    Ward 1    VFW Post 1772, 113 Highland Street    8:00am - 7:00pm    [computer]
68    Rochester -Sheryl Eisenberg    Rochester    Ward 2    St. Mary Parish Ctr. 71 Lowell St    same    [computer]
69    Rochester -Sheryl Eisenberg    Rochester    Ward 3    Fire Station 2, Main St., Gonic    same    [computer]
70    Rochester -Sheryl Eisenberg    Rochester    Ward 4    Holy Rosary Parish Center, 189 N. Main Street    same    [computer]
71    Rochester -Sheryl Eisenberg    Rochester    Ward 5    Rochester Community Center, Community Way    same    [computer]
72    Rochester -Sheryl Eisenberg    Rochester    Ward 6    Elk's Lodge #1393, 41 Columbus Ave       [computer]

Noted.


You are all watching a play.

None of this is real whatsoever.

These are complete fabrications.

Not one of these numbers represents reality at all.

These numbers are as valid as the numbers earlier.


Also noted.



Plus I wish I could quote all the other posts that Dig made but I've just about run out of editing-time at the moment...
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