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« on: July 25, 2012, 08:50:15 AM »

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The article is pretty long, so I just posted a clip of it.  To read the whole thing, go here:
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Gentleman’s Guide To Forum Spies (Spooks, Feds, Etc.)
July 24, 2012
1. COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum
2. Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
3. Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist
4. How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent)
5. Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression


COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum..

There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a ‘uncontrolled forum.’

Technique #1 – ‘FORUM SLIDING’

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum – it can be quickly removed from public view by ‘forum sliding.’ In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to ‘age.’ Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a ‘forum slide.’ The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a ‘forum slide’ and ‘flush’ the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then ‘replying’ to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting ‘slides’ down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

Technique #2 – ‘CONSENSUS CRACKING’

A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com) is ‘consensus cracking.’ To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made – but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger ‘evidence’ or disinformation in your favour is slowly ‘seeded in.’ Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then ‘abort’ the consensus cracking by initiating a ‘forum slide.’

Technique #3 – ‘TOPIC DILUTION’

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a ‘RESOURCE BURN.’ By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a ‘gossip mode.’ In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to ‘drive in the wedge.’ By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Technique #4 – ‘INFORMATION COLLECTION’

Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a ‘show you mine so me yours’ posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your ‘favourite weapon’ and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite ‘technique of operation.’ From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

http://wp.alexjonespodcasts.com/june-2012/gentlemans-guide-to-forum-spies-spooks-feds-etc - Read The Rest Here...
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 09:00:41 AM »

OMGood Gwd ...

WOW talk about a comprehensions how to :p

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 09:07:57 AM »

Didn't even cross my mind, but I need a disclaimer...  I did not write this.  I found it on pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5  No author was credited that I could find.  I posted it to my site to help spread the word and make sure there would always be a copy around.

I sure hope everyone enjoys as much as I did.  Perhaps it should become a sticky on the forum - I am sure there are tons of operatives trolling here!
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2012, 09:54:14 AM »

I am sure there are tons of operatives trolling here!

More on the infowars main site than here, I hate to say it .. they need a mod just for the comment section 24-7, as much as I believe in the first amendment, one place it needs to be repealed is there.   
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2012, 04:12:39 PM »

More on the infowars main site than here, I hate to say it .. they need a mod just for the comment section 24-7, as much as I believe in the first amendment, one place it needs to be repealed is there.  

Actually, the first amendment protects speech from government censorship, in other words, the government cannot control what is said or written or filmed... private entities like these blogs and forums have what is called "editorial control"... we as individuals and private concerns have not only the right, but the duty and power to remove anything that is deemed overly offensive and or destructive, no matter how overt or subtle it may be... My way as a moderator has always been to point out this kind of subtle activity, thereby to educate.

The problem is that the average person thinks that the first amendment protects anyone to say anything anywhere and it must be allowed to stand without responsibility or consequence... Nothing is further from the truth.

In my many years as a Moderator, here and on other boards, I have always known and acted using this understanding and knowledge, with distinction... over the years, many a covert troll was removed from these pages as a result of their use of what is described in the co-intel tactics Jon has posted above...

When I was moderating the Blogs, (Infowars and PP.com, until 11/'09) I would defuse a covert troll by exposing what they were doing and how they were doing it, in hopes of educating the casual readership before I would remove the offending post later that day, unless of course the post was so blatant in violation of the rules that it needed to be immediately removed.

As a result of my moderator actions, I was attacked ruthlessly, and ultimately neutralized by the opposition in a long CO-INTEL PROgram on the web and on the ground that I don't talk about...

More are educated now... support for righteous action will be greater in the future as a result.

Thanks Jon for posting this... late vindication is better than none ...(chuckle)...

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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2012, 08:40:24 AM »

OldYoti,

  Grand post man.  Very informative.  Perhaps there should be a locked forum location where the moderators can move the posts of cointelpro agents and post the reasons they were "moved".  This would benefit in several ways.  One, it would keep the posts out of the forum where it is attempting to hijack or otherwise distract.  Two, it would not be deleted, just 'moved' - that would make complaints more difficult to substantialize. Three, by moving them to a location where they could still be read, and with an addendum attached explaining the techniques, and maybe in some cases the agenda, then everyone could read and learn from them.  You could lock the forum so that no body could post there and only moderators could move them there. 

  Perhaps there could be a way to replace the original post with a link to where it was moved with a warning stating something like, "This post was removed due to violation of terms and is considered cointelpro - to view the link and an explanation as to why it was removed, click here"

That would be very interesting, at least to me!

Jon
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2012, 09:23:24 AM »

As a result of my moderator actions, I was attacked ruthlessly, and ultimately neutralized by the opposition in a long CO-INTEL PROgram on the web and on the ground that I don't talk about...

Yup.

The moderators are always very, very high on the COintel hit list.

There are numerous tactics these low lifes employ, but all are in essence skulduggery. Much of the serious work done by COintel is not to actually post Troll droppings on the forum, but to find useful idiots to do there bidding. Once the useful idiot has swallowed the DisInfo, they then spread it with evangelist zeal and recruit more idiots to repeat the DisInfo.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2012, 10:06:50 AM »

that sounds like what the truth movement does.  Hopefully the truth movement is more viral.  I remember when I woke up - no going back to sleep and a craving to wake up others.  Let's just hope we continue to win at this game.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2012, 03:38:10 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 01:46:12 AM »

Keep moving!I hope you can update this news as soon as possible!
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