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I'm in the fog with this one. CV admits to 911, CV then sides with BBC.
Am I reading this correctly,he did not mention exposions or of WT-7, just the fact the US Gov received warnings of the attack beforhand, is this the deal. Or am I off the map again.
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« Reply #81 on: July 04, 2011, 02:36:21 PM » |
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I'm in the fog with this one. CV admits to 911, CV then sides with BBC.
Am I reading this correctly,he did not mention exposions or of WT-7, just the fact the US Gov received warnings of the attack beforhand, is this the deal. Or am I off the map again.
no, he made a total 180 and now literally goes off the script used by the govt., MSM, NIST and the debunkers. so very very strange.. but listen to the Max Igan interviews with CV (links in this thread) but my gut feeling says that he was a plant from the beginning and timed to so at this time.. basic devide and conquer  Lenin sad something like "the best way to control the opposition is to lead it" and I suppose CV made a good name for himself and got quite a following.. so my point is that the psy op went quite well and caused alot of confusion and distraction plus that BBC got super good hit piece.. now they for sure gonna cut in a lot of the hate and death treats that he received into the documentary as well.. saying the truth movement are violent and like a cult.. |
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« Reply #82 on: July 04, 2011, 02:48:39 PM » |
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no, he made a total 180 and now literally goes off the script used by the govt., MSM, NIST and the debunkers. so very very strange.. but listen to the Max Igan interviews with CV (links in this thread) but my gut feeling says that he was a plant from the beginning and timed to so at this time.. basic devide and conquer Lenin sad something like "the best way to control the opposition is to lead it" and I suppose CV made a good name for himself and got quite a following.. so my point is that the psy op went quite well and caused alot of confusion and distraction plus that BBC got super good hit piece.. now they for sure gonna cut in a lot of the hate and death treats that he received into the documentary as well.. saying the truth movement are violent and like a cult.. thanks for the catch up. The MSM, the pay must be good. It amazes me, the faces go to the makeup artists, sit being their desks and read from the teleprompter. The scripts are well prepared, the faces get very well paid and show goes on. Sad isn't it, the majority beleive this BS. Seems like John was right. |
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« Reply #83 on: July 04, 2011, 04:06:22 PM » |
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thanks for the catch up. The MSM, the pay must be good. It amazes me, the faces go to the makeup artists, sit being their desks and read from the teleprompter. The scripts are well prepared, the faces get very well paid and show goes on. Sad isn't it, the majority beleive this BS.
Seems like John was right.
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Andrew is his middle name, or maybe charles is.. Not new, I've heard it before. I got an email reply but nothing in response to my questions, I guess he probably is controlled opposition, for one reason or another. We just need to remember he's just a guy who started off yelling randomly at the police with a bullhorn, before he made that 'Message To The Resistance' video. It was too inspiring, it might have been legit, or it might have been scripted. Alex might be controlled opposition too, some claim. But in this life, its all about what you choose to do, and believe in. So if you want to choose the path of ignorance, or self destruction, that is your choice. Or you can wake up and believe in truth and life and love, and isn't that what charlie was really teaching us along the way? We should take the best we can from this complicated man, who spent a lot of time in jail thinking about the choices HE made.
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« Reply #86 on: July 04, 2011, 09:08:39 PM » |
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He got all his traffic from The Alex Jones crowd. Users use to promote him in the comment section of TheAlexJonesChannel
Another thing, dude started out with "Anonymous" heckling Scientologist. For some reason these people always target Scientology and always bring up that they are a cult. In shill training, they are taught that we are a cult
So it's no surprise he's calling us a cult
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« Reply #87 on: July 05, 2011, 07:35:10 AM » |
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Andrew is his middle name, or maybe charles is.. Not new, I've heard it before. I got an email reply but nothing in response to my questions, I guess he probably is controlled opposition, for one reason or another. We just need to remember he's just a guy who started off yelling randomly at the police with a bullhorn, before he made that 'Message To The Resistance' video. It was too inspiring, it might have been legit, or it might have been scripted. Alex might be controlled opposition too, some claim. But in this life, its all about what you choose to do, and believe in. So if you want to choose the path of ignorance, or self destruction, that is your choice. Or you can wake up and believe in truth and life and love, and isn't that what charlie was really teaching us along the way? We should take the best we can from this complicated man, who spent a lot of time in jail thinking about the choices HE made.
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« Reply #88 on: July 05, 2011, 08:39:34 AM » |
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Once in a blue moon I would catch one of his youtube vids because it was posted to a alt news site that I went to. "The Love Police"...I never bought his schtick. To me, it was obvious BS.
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« Reply #89 on: July 05, 2011, 09:17:41 AM » |
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i think he might have an agenda, be trying to pull something off like see how hated he can get? seriously.
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« Reply #90 on: July 05, 2011, 03:13:26 PM » |
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The guy is an attention seeking twerp. He's kinda like a British Glen Beck, always flip/flopping, and interjecting weird things. If you see some of his vids he even goes off on angst ridden existentialist rants.
A lot of his "confrontations" with the police were simply goading the average cop, he never paid heed or mentioned the *real* nasty cops, people who shot J.T Williams for example. Forget Vetch.
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« Reply #91 on: July 05, 2011, 04:28:01 PM » |
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Has Alex even mentioned anything about this? I havent listened to him since the 20 minutes with the president bs..
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« Reply #92 on: July 05, 2011, 05:25:25 PM » |
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Has Alex even mentioned anything about this? I havent listened to him since the 20 minutes with the president bs..
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« Reply #93 on: July 06, 2011, 10:34:37 AM » |
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charlie's FB page - the love police today's post. "MY FINAL WORD ON THIS INSANE SAGA IS COMING OUT TONIGHT" - posted an hour ago "Charlie Veitch here - for all the support, thank you - for all the haters and people wanting to fantasize about dark plots, brain-washing, Selling out, Payments, then YOU ARE FREE TO UNFRIEND OR UNSUBSCRIBE" posted an hour ago. http://www.facebook.com/TheLovePolice |
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« Reply #94 on: July 07, 2011, 10:11:40 PM » |
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Andrew is his middle name, or maybe charles is.. Not new, I've heard it before.
His middle name is Torres. I think he was a LIAR and a SHILL from the very beginning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Vs-AvdEWMOn this video uploaded March 30, 2010 by Charlie Veitch himself titled, "Charlie Veitch exposes Charlie Veitch", (where he presumably attempts to debunk people that doubt his identity); he states that his full name is 'Charles Torres Veitch' and his father's name is John Veitch, a Marine pilot born in Scotland in 1943. He claims he was born in his mother's home country of Brazil, and he films his alleged birth certificate @ 3:30 as 'proof'. @ 5:50 he again states his full name is ' Charles Torres Veitch' and attempts to further verify this by showing his Brazilian and British passports. His first name is misspelled "Chales" on the Brazilian passport @ 6:04. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE1UZWrfMJ8Last year at the G20 meeting in Toronto Canada, 'Charlie' was arrested for not providing identification while filming in a restricted zone, as seen in this film uploaded June 26, 2010. @ :22 in this video the MSM reporter notes that an ANDREW Veitch was arrested. @ :37, the cop says that he was arrested because he didn't want to tell the police who he was. You can watch the raw part of the video @ 5:48 where he dances around the identification issue with the cop. Another cop states that he would be released as soon as they determined who he really was (which apparently was ANDREW Veitch). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyuIeZw8dssIn this video from the G20 meeting Veitch asserts to another officer that he didn't have any ID on him, because he was an agent provocateur working for British Military Intelligence. Did this encounter occur after the arrest that I posted above? I don't know for sure, but it seems to make sense if it was, especially if the cops were briefed about his/their presence the following day. A bio for BBC documentary film maker Andrew Veitch (Sr??) can be found here: http://www.realone.org/ Notice any similarities to him and Charlie? At first I wasn't sure how legit that site was since there wasn't much info on it, but this little gem of information stood out. Veitch would write more for print media if he wasn't so lazy, speaks at conferences if he absolutely has to, and in his spare time helps to run the stunningly-successful Saturday market in Broadway Market, Hackney, East London. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhSP3Wn9XpIA brief trip to YouTube reveals Andrew Veitch TALKING about Broadway Market on March 14, 2010. Notice any similarities (specifically speech patterns and face) to him and Charlie??? It could be an uncle or something, but at this point I kind of doubt it. I think that is 'Charlie' Veitch's real daddy.  Thus, I think the most likely option is that 'Charlie' Veitch = Andrew Veitch Jr. = paid shill = disinfo agent from the very beginning. |
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« Reply #95 on: July 08, 2011, 04:18:53 PM » |
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Wow thats some great investigative work there man
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« Reply #97 on: July 11, 2011, 02:56:20 AM » |
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« Reply #99 on: July 11, 2011, 07:09:20 AM » |
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Lots of Illuminati imagery and subliminals. Did you notice that an anagram for Charlie Veitch is "Rich Evil Cheat?" |
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« Reply #101 on: July 11, 2011, 06:43:57 PM » |
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Tell me Charlie, is thermerosol now nutritious? Do concentration camps just not exist now? Did they just magically disappear the day you decided 911 was as the mainstream media portrayed it exactly? Do the elite not collude to collapse economies as witnessed in South America, and across the globe? Does China no longer have a one-child policy that they use to viciously cull their population? Are revolutions never manufactured now? Are wars never set up? Is carbon dioxide a deadly toxic gas that will destroy the earth? Does the mainstream media now tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Tell me Charlie, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO THINK NOW!!! Rather than turner to some uninformed hack like Charlie Veitch, I like this explanation of the cultural impact: |
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« Reply #102 on: July 11, 2011, 06:49:54 PM » |
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« Reply #103 on: July 12, 2011, 03:35:21 AM » |
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Charlie's girlfriend kind of weighs in ... I am extremely proud to report that we raised £501.17 for “Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth” at Richard Gage’s presentation in Cambridge.
Thank you so much for your incredible support and donations. That money will help continue the flow of information from dedicated architects and engineers to the public to keep the debate about 9/11 alive.
I also met some really wonderful people at the talk. I hope we all stay in touch and help each other in our activism.
I’d like to clearly assert my position on the events of 9/11. There is much evidence to validate a new, fully independent investigation into the events of 9/11. I fully support an academic debate between opposing scientists, that deals (for example) with the discovery of nanothermite in the dust of the twin towers. I sincerely hope that truth and justice prevails and that the victims and their families can finally rest in peace.
Through extremely difficult personal experience, I have learned that those activists who rely on Youtube pop-research to form their opinions on 9/11 are whimsical and reckless with their ‘beliefs’ – and in turn, reckless with those who support them with their activism. My experiences have taught me some very valuable lessons though. Firstly, the academic approach is best; debate is invaluable. Secondly, that we should always have an open mind and dogma is to be avoided – that goes for sceptics and those who believe the official account verbatim.
I hope that everyone who wants answers to the inconsistencies of the official account of 9/11 stands up and gets active. As we approach the tenth anniversary, now is not the time for armchair activism. Do not lament that there are not sufficient 9/11 activists pulling you out of your seat. Do not lament that some of our leading activists are not reliable. Do not wait for others. Do not be hindered by infighting. Remember the bigger wider world out there and create the change you want to see.http://miseven.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/911-truth-success-in-cambridge/ |
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« Reply #104 on: July 12, 2011, 04:27:15 AM » |
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Well Alex Jones just raped CV with his new Vlogs
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« Reply #105 on: July 12, 2011, 06:24:27 AM » |
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Well Alex Jones just raped CV with his new Vlogs
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« Reply #106 on: July 12, 2011, 06:31:12 AM » |
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I'm loving the comments:
Much of the work is shaking off that "Errr u a conspeeracy theeeorist?" my response is them is "ARE YOU AN 'EVERYTHING'S FINE' THEORIST?"
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« Reply #107 on: July 12, 2011, 06:38:22 AM » |
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I nearly pissed myself watching this... I have seen the lite Gov makes the Sun shine, they have never lied to us. WMD was in IRAQ, take all the shots, do what you are told, they love us. Government makes the grass grow. Up is down, black is white. |
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« Reply #108 on: July 12, 2011, 07:18:42 AM » |
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"They call you conspiracy theorist...if you question liars"
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« Reply #110 on: July 13, 2011, 05:27:33 AM » |
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what is this BBC connection?
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i see... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SavpCQlu2GAhe was working for the BBC when he made the video about 9/11 im sorry. But doing that makes him a sell out, im fine with him expressing his opinions, but clearly he has sold out big time. |
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im not sure about cv being in it from the start. sure hes done some weird vids but i think thats just his sense of humour being taken too seriously by some.
i remember in one of the interviews where he said he shared tears with family members while filming the documentary . wonder if that part will be shown?
maybe just a case of emotional coercion.
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« Reply #115 on: July 15, 2011, 03:27:17 AM » |
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This is what David Icke actually said http://www.davidicke.com/latest-headlines-topmenu-82/50673-post-charlie-veitch-what-now-for-the-911-truth-movement-I don't care what the BBC says. I don't care what Charlie Veitch says. He has a right to his opinion and like all of us he takes the consequences of his actions. The day is coming when he will deeply regret what he has done, but, hey, life's an experience.
I have been on this road for a very long time - long before 9/11 - and no-one could have been subject to the attacks, ridicule and dismissal that I have over 21 years from the mainstream media, including the BBC. Surely no-one could survive that? Surely what I am saying couldn't survive that?
Really?
We heard yesterday that of an estimated 255 million websites on the internet, Davidicke.com is in the top 5,000 most visited in the United States and the top 6,500 in the world. Crikey, all those attacks were so damaging weren't they?
It doesn't matter what the BBC says. It doesn't matter what Charlie Veitch says. We can't change that.
What matters is what we say and what we do.
Truth has power far more potent than lies or ignorance. That is why the truth will out and it is happening by the day.
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« Reply #117 on: July 15, 2011, 06:11:47 AM » |
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This is a bottomless pit. After seeing the RT interview, and countless independent videos, I think the best thing we can do is forget Charlie and let him fade away...
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« Reply #118 on: July 15, 2011, 06:32:35 AM » |
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... forget Charlie and let him fade away...
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