New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross

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AN AMERICAN THEOCRACY COMETH

Theocrats and the Separation of Church and State: Who Are the Theocrats? What Do They Want?: http://bit.ly/izJ8uo via @addthis
http://atheism.about.com/od/churchstate101/a/theocrats.htm

Summary: "The most extreme position opposed to separationism in all of its forms is held by those who can be called “theocrats,” these are people who wish to create a theocratic government in the United States. To state it plainly, the theocrats consider even the most conservative Christians in the Religious Right to not be “godly” enough..."

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The following is a condensed collection of links from various sources which provides the highlights of what the theocratic New Apostolic Reformation is, how it is taking over America (via a political infiltration spanning decades) and the peril it poses to all who respect political, economic, social and religious plurality:

C. Peter Wagner - SafeGuardYourSoul: http://bit.ly/kFNH0D via @addthis
http://safeguardyoursoul.com/wolf-expose/c-peter-wagner/

"Illegitimate Authority & Unwarranted Control

C. Peter Wagner and Chuck Pierce are the inventors and propagators of what they call “The New Apostolic Reformation Movement.” (NAR) Typically, those who invent some new movement conveniently happen to be the ones “God” supposedly places to lead. In this case these “apostles” are supposed to have the authority to rule over others. They position themselves as the “men of the hour” whom God supposedly speaks through. They convince people that they are God’s special spokesmen. In order to do this – to beguile gullible, biblically illiterate people – they downplay, ignore, and even disparage the true super apostles of our LORD – Paul, Peter, John, etc. These men were Christ’s authentic apostles of a surety and they truly honored “the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus.” (Heb. 3:1)

It is interesting that they themselves just happen to be the “super apostles” heading up the show in this case. A review of their teachings will reveal that these men, like all similar ministries, believe that modern apostles have an extraordinary amount of authority that Christians must submit to or be outside of the will of God. Such a teaching, spoken or insinuated, is cultish. It should be noted that the apostle Paul – a genuine apostle of Jesus Christ – never claimed to possess such an authority over God’s people. He also never taught or sought to exercise such dominion/authority over the people for which Jesus bled to purchase. In fact, the apostle Paul said:

“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.” 2 Corinthians 1:24..."


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Here are two recordings of broadcasts warning of how the NAR's heresies are seducing increasing numbers of innocent Christians--and voters (courtesy of conservative Christian radio):

New Apostolic Reformation | Slaughter of the Sheep: http://bit.ly/kVc8Xz via @addthis
https://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/new-apostolic-reformation/

"Jan Markell of Olive Tree Ministries did a one hour program on the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) with guest Mike Oppenheimer of Let Us Reason Ministries on Saturday, May 15, on her Understanding the Times radio program (which is one of my favorite radio programs).  It covers pertinent information as it relates to the New Apostolic Reformation and C. Peter Wagner’s International Coalition of Apostles.  You can listen to it by clicking here: http://olivetreeradio.com/OTM2010_05_15B.mp3

Ingrid Schlueter of the Crosstalk America radio program did a program on May 3rd with guest Sarah Leslie of Discernment-Ministries, Inc., which covered the same topic.  You can listen to that by clicking here: http://67.36.84.226/crosstalk2/ct100503.mp3

Both programs will inform and educate you on the key players of the NAR, as well as the dangerous doctrines they teach."

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Here's Leah Burton's informative overview on some of the constituent groups which form the theocratic infiltration of U.S. politics.

This is the first in a series of articles she'll be writing on this menace to democracy.

Following the Dominionist Thread Through the GOP's 2012 Candidates: http://bit.ly/lQquh9 via @addthis
http://www.politicususa.com/en/dominionist-gop-2012-candidates

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HOW THEOCRATS ARE TAKING OVER AMERICA

For decades the New Apostolic Reformation has been quietly striving to transform the U.S. into a theocracy via its 'Reclaim The Seven Mountains Of Culture' strategy.

Said strategy involves infiltrating and achieving dominance over seven spheres (or 'mountains') of societal influence: business, government, media, arts and entertainment, education, the family and religion.

This is the NAR's promotional video. Note that their worldview is couched in absolute terms: ie 'good' (themselves) or 'evil' (everyone else):

YouTube - Reclaim 7 Mountains of Culture: http://bit.ly/j7LZln via @addthis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQtB-AF41p8

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This is a video which ties the New Apostolic Reformation with one of the co-authors of Uganda's 'Kill The Gays' Bill, and in which the NAR further outlines their strategy for taking over countries:

YouTube - Harvard, Hillman, & The Anti Homosexuality Bill: http://bit.ly/jnHYAG via @addthis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkKhyVt8eYM&feature=player_embedded

At 13:08 this video bears the caption: "According to Wallnau, the lefthand 30% segment represents the American political left."

Since the current U.S.A. Population is 310,300,000 (as of late 2010), this seems to indicate that, should it gain control of the U.S., the New Apostolic Reformation's '7 Mountains' strategy for the conquest of America would involve the segregation/removal of some 100,000,000 Americans from society.

USA Population - The Current Population of the USA: http://bit.ly/ktfFTL via @addthis
http://geography.about.com/od/obtainpopulationdata/a/uspopulation.htm

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Ordinary citizens are 'terrorists'?

This is a document issued by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (a DHS Fusion Center) as a guide for law enforcement officers. It offers a narrative which conflates a wide variety of militia violence and racism with non-violent political dissent against authoritarian encroachment of the sort touched upon in many of the links on this page (and forum). Said document also profiles a range of ordinary citizens' identity and associational attributes as being those of possible terrorists: people whose vehicles sport certain bumper stickers, animal rights and anti-abortion activists, Christians and supporters of third party candidates like Ron Paul etc.
http://web.me.com/wnjsmith/documents/assets/MIAC%20Report.pdf

More info on Fusion Centers
Operation Defuse: http://www.operationdefuse.com/ via @addthis

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Judas goats? 'Clergy Response Teams':

YouTube - 26,000 Pastors for Martial Law Continuity of Government: http://bit.ly/iAAXqr via @addthis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X69EYLjpNR4&feature=related

LiveLeak.com - DHS Clergy Response Team - Pastors Teaching Submission to Government: http://bit.ly/j4Ivbj via @addthis
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d7_1300918227

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Concentration camps and thousands of rail cars:

This is a digital copy of the San Francisco Gate article written by former Congressman Dan Hamburg in which he blows the whistle on the building of concentration camps and ordering of rail cars (“some with shackles”).
http://web.me.com/wnjsmith/documents/assets/SF%20Tribune.pdf

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Theocracy takes over Uganda and is spreading to the rest of Africa--and to parts of America and elsewhere:

The NAR is affiliated with the International Transformation Network headed by Argentinian 'apostle' Ed Silvoso. The New Apostolic Reformation and the ITN share the same heretical distortion of Christianity and global theocratic aims. Check out the video in the following link for glimpse of what may lay in store for America's future--IF enough people vote for it...

| Video Exposes Antigay Western Theocratic Effort "Transforming" Uganda: http://bit.ly/lZlpl2 via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2010/1/15/134445/911

Starting at 18:03

"Tomorrow morning, we are talking about a new economic order. The keys to the elimination of systemic corruption. And I want to give you advanced warning. God has chosen you to be the implementer of this New World Order. (Edit: cuts to a different clip) "And I say in my book that Uganda is poised to be the first nation to be transformed. ...because tax collection has been sanctified, because the central bank has been sanctified... ...I believe that we are witnessing a major breakthrough in nation transformation." ~ Ed Silvoso

Video description: "Transforming Uganda is a new 20 minute documentary, by Bruce E. Wilson, that exposes the immense influence that an evangelizing effort called the International Transformation Network, and the globally distributed videos of its media partner, the Sentinel Group, exert in Uganda.

The ITN is one of several global efforts, operating under the "transformation" brand, that are re-engineering  along theocratic lines cities and even entire nations. For the Transformation movement, which claims homosexuals are possessed by demons and that prayer and faith healing have cured thousands of HIV and AIDS cases in the nation, Uganda is a prototype.

For over a year ITN representatives have been at work setting up a training network spanning approximately 14,000 evangelical churches in Uganda, and ITN's head Africa representative states, as shown in the video, that the Transformation Network Uganda is "basically an ITN chapter." The International Transformation Network has active efforts underway across Africa but also in the United States: in Newark, New Jersey, Hawaii, Jacksonville, Florida, and elsewhere."


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If you're pressed for time, scroll down to...

"In the following video, Patricia King, host of the Extreme Prophetic TV, introduces the program with Lance Wallnau using the "head and not the tail" phrase. Wallnau speaks about the Seven Mountain campaign."

...for Patricia King's intro and 'Pastor' Lance Wallnau's more in-depth overview of the NAR's theocratic intentions for America:

| Dominionist Battle Cry "We are the Head and Not the Tail" Used by Bachmann in Debate: http://bit.ly/j1m0ML via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/6/14/11151/3650

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If the likelihood of this happening in the U.S. seems far-fetched...

| Texas Gov. Rick Perry Partnering with New Apostolic Groups for Houston "Call to Prayer": http://bit.ly/kfaEq5 via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/6/6/112828/5087/Front_Page/Texas_Gov_Rick_Perry_Partnering_with_New_Apostolic_Groups_for_Houston_quot_Call_to_Prayer_quot_

Summary: "Another politician joins forces with the apostles.  Texas Governor Rick Perry is leading an event in Houston on August 6 with the "apostolic and prophetic" movement, including leaders from Lou Engle's "The Call," Mike Bickle's International House of Prayer, and the American Family Association. The Call is a virulently anti-gay and anti-abortion event held in stadiums and large venues,  including one in Uganda that featured speakers promoting the "Kill the Gays" bill...

...Politicians competing for the support of this prayer warrior network prior to the presidential primaries include Sarah Palin, who has an over twenty-year relationship with Alaskan Apostle Mary Glazier; Newt Gingrich, who was anointed by Lou Engle on an internationally televised broadcast in 2009; Michelle Bachman, Rick Santorum, and now, apparently, Rick Perry..."


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| Rick Perry's Own Private Alamo: http://bit.ly/iw7s7l via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/6/16/0638/40428/Dominionism_in_the_military/Rick_Perry_s_Own_Private_Alamo

Summary: "No matter what they may call it, when conservative Christian evangelicals stage a prayer meeting/mass rally at a big stadium, if you're gay, you'd be advised to stay away. And that warning goes for Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and Atheists as well. Despite what organizers may publicly proclaim, these mass rallies praying for Jesus Christ's guidance through hard times, have a tendency to turn towards the dark side for those outside the faith.

And when the initiator of the event is a governor of a big state looking to make national headlines, the main sponsor of the event is the wholly un-cuddlesome and anti-gay American Family Association, branded a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, and key organizers of the event are closely linked to TheCall, Lou Engle's unambiguously anti-gay organization, that's a prescription for a decidedly partisan, and, dare I say it, un-Christian gathering..."


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| The Social Transformation Conference & the 7M Movement: http://bit.ly/gdArvO via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/3/30/114012/087

Summary: The New Apostolic Reformation's heretical drive to convert America into a witch-hunting (seriously), theocratic horror show--and they (via their proxies & cohorts in the GOP + a few Democrats) are gaining increasing control in a number of States. (BTW, the article includes a link to the folks at Truth Wins Out who also acknowledge this menace.)

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| If Almost 1/4 of US States Can Now Fund Creationism...: http://bit.ly/ijqdhR via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/5/25/124843/619

Summary: "Religious schools across the nation are receiving public funds through voucher and corporate tax credit programs. Many hundreds, if not thousands, of these schools use Protestant fundamentalist textbooks that teach not only Creationism, but also a religious supremacist worldview, with a shocking spin on politics, history, and human rights."

Summary: These kids will be voting in a decade or so = a likely U.S. theocracy.

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The Religious Right uniting with Religious Renegades, Part 1: http://bit.ly/m8g6qn via @addthis
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/mwest/110518

Summary: The Religious Right/GOP (and to be fair some Democrats too) are effectively in bed with the New Apostolic Reformation (who promote their '7 Mountains' plan to transform the U.S. into a faux-'Christian' theocracy via political infiltration) in spite of its heresies.

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I Was a Right-Wing Evangelical Pastor -- Until I Saw the Light | | AlterNet: http://bit.ly/jnGW1c via @addthis
http://www.alternet.org/story/151034/i_was_a_right-wing_evangelical_pastor_--_until_i_saw_the_light?page=1

"...I want you to know that the fundamentalist political movement is the beginning of a cultural revolution that will take our nation to a very dark place. You have to understand that this has been methodically planned and is being carried out with the utmost vigilance. In accordance with their worldview, my old friends do not in the least care about what you think. They are against democracy, and they are seeking to end the rule of the majority in our great country.

They truly believe that if you have not been “saved,” you are living under a curse and are incapable of knowing what is best and that because of this you should be ruled over. You should also know they do not believe that even centuries-old Christian communities (Catholics, Anglicans, Greek Orthodox, etc.) are “saved,” only those who think like they do.

You might be thinking that a minority fundamentalist group of zealots can’t really take over the direction of a society. Just look at Iran, or the countless other places where people have allowed this to happen. Are you all really going to sit back and watch this happen? They will begin to attack all sources of accurate information. Public radio was first, next will be museums and then science books. Just listen to them argue against the scientific facts about the peril our planet is facing, because it does not fit in with their ideas. They represent a clear and present danger to our union..."


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If you hear any of these NAR terms at a church service...

| Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare (SLSW) Glossary: http://bit.ly/jeY1Ma via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2010/8/6/135752/1937

From the Comments:

"Yes, several of these concepts are co-opted to mean something quite different than in the past.  Intercessory prayer is another old and common term which is taking on a completely different meaning in SLSW.

I fear this is one reason there hasn't been more alarm in other streams of Christianity and even naive participation in some of these events.  Many of the words are the same so there is not reason to suspect that this is a radically different movement, and one that teaches that a unified church is required for dominion. The movement is post-denominational and some leaders go as far as teaching that their movement will eventually conduct a civil war with the rest of the church which they view as apostate and controlled by the "spirit of religion."


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SOME PRESCIENT PERSPECTIVES

YouTube - Ron Paul and Frank Zappa on the Danger of American Fascism: http://bit.ly/jgbR0S via @addthis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gLDzDklTRU&NR=1

“When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” ~ Sinclair Lewis (American Writer, 1885-1951)

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Given the NAR's 'Seven Mountains' strategy for theocratic global conquest which emphasizes "the mountain of business... ...where resources are consecrated for the Kingdom of God", and given ITN 'apostle' Ed Silvoso's assertion that tax collection and the central bank are both "sanctified", and also in view of the distortion of Christianity both groups are using to exploit the biblically literalist beliefs of a growing number Christians/voters as a means of garnering support for candidates who promote a theocratic agenda, it's now clear to me that the New Apostolic Reformation, which has allies amongst many in America's Religious Right, the military, the GOP and to a lessor extent the Democratic Party, and the International Transformation Network, which is active in dozens of countries around the world, are both mere facades for an international banking cartel and the military-industrial complex we were warned of long ago:

YouTube - Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex.: http://bit.ly/a2mIXk via @addthis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

The great experiment in Western representative democracy, a government of the people, by the people and for the people, a system of governance whose respect for individual human freedom found expression in political, economic, social and religious plurality, is on the verge of being voted away in wilful and bigoted ignorance in exchange for a de facto thirty pieces of silver in the form of a man-made, faux-'Christian' theocratic corporate fascist Hell on Earth, from which - thanks to modern tracking technology - there will be no escape:

YouTube - Human Microchipping, Verichip, Positive ID, Police State Conspiracy or Mark of the Beast, 666?: http://bit.ly/ilxWbN via @addthis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJPgb0uomAo&NR=1&feature=fvwp

We The People Will Not Be Chipped - About Us: http://wethepeoplewillnotbechipped.com/ via @addthis

YouTube - AMERICA: Freedom To Fascism - FULL LENGTH: http://bit.ly/irtTJx via @addthis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orHVNUnRKlI&feature=related

Video description: "Determined to find the law that requires American citizens to pay income tax, producer Aaron Russo (“The Rose,” “Trading Places”) set out on a journey to find the evidence. This film which is neither left, nor right-wing is a startling examination of government. It exposes the systematic erosion of civil liberties in America since 1913 when the Federal Reserve system was fraudulently created. Through interviews with U.S. Congressmen, a former IRS Commissioner, former IRS and FBI agents and tax attorneys and authors, Russo connects the dots between money creation, federal income tax, and the national identity card which becomes law in May 2008. This ID card will use Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) chips which are essentially homing devices used to track people. This film shows in great detail and undeniable facts that America is moving headlong into a fascist police state. Wake up!"

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A VOLUMINOUS amount of info & insight on America's encroaching theocracy can be found here:

| Welcome to Talk To Action: http://bit.ly/fByGgc via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/2/12/122655/088

If you love your liberty, start reading...

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BTW. If any non-Americans are reading this and thinking: 'Man! Am I ever glad I don't live there!'

Two points:

1) The New Apostolic Reformation and the International Transformation Network are but two members of a global conglomerate of theocratic groups who are bent upon world domination via political subversion, and thus collectively, are likely to be a subset of the New World Order.

2) There will be no escape for anyone from a future U.S. corporate/fascist theocracy which has...

737 U.S. Military Bases = Global Empire | | AlterNet: http://www.alternet.org/story/47998 via @addthis
http://www.alternet.org/story/47998

...backed with an intercontinental nuclear strike capability to coerce other nations to its will.

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I posted this dedicated thread in the expectation that it would show up in Google searches more readily, and in the hope that true Christians who read it will do some independent research on this matter--before gambling that the ballot they cast for a nominally preferred candidate may be their last.

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Given what's at stake for everyone in 2012 and beyond, I will now offer my unsolicited opinion:

With all due respect folks, it's time to stop voting for politicians who presumptuously CLAIM to speak for God (pick one), and start voting for Americans who may have a Bible in hand, but who clutch the Constitution of the United States to their hearts!

Constitution of the United States - Official: http://1.usa.gov/94u09J via @addthis
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html

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One more thing. Not that this amounts to a comprehensive history lesson, but the last time a 'Christian' theocracy reigned supreme in the Western world, things got ugly...

YouTube - 80 POPES TORTURED AND KILLED 50 MILLION: http://bit.ly/mGrzca via @addthis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWS0ePXeq24&feature=related

"The Bible itself is intolerant, and true followers of God's word should be as well." ~ Bob Jones III, president of Bob Jones University

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2011, 10:51:50 PM »
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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 02:37:19 PM »
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http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/5/29/195855/959

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 02:41:57 PM »
Here's a link sheet which I update frequently:

HOW GAYS ARE BEING USED TO CREATE A THEOCRACY
http://howgaysarebeingusedtocreateatheocracy.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-gays-are-being-used-to-create.html

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 03:11:49 PM »
LEFT BEHIND: Eternal Forces: http://bit.ly/k0UN16 via @addthis

LEFT BEHIND: Tribulation Forces (The PC Game): http://bit.ly/lXsggG via @addthis

LEFT BEHIND 3: Rise of the Antichrist: http://bit.ly/mcXriJ via @addthis

Source:

Left Behind Games - Christian Video Games, Games for Kids, Bible Games, Christian Games, Video Games, Christian PC Computer Games: http://www.leftbehindgames.com/index.php via @addthis

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2011, 05:16:01 AM »
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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2011, 01:04:40 PM »
Anyone who can
"pray for the death of Mother Teresa"
is definitely
a commandment shy of 10.

(Info found at link given in post above).

I regretfully inform you,
that the last time I looked,
MorningStar Church was alive & well outside London.

These folks may have started out well-meaning,
but from the info I have read,
they have signed on with the NWO.

Hi amazon.

There are many MorningStar Churches. Could you please post a link to the one you are referring to? It would be helpful to nail down the details of NAR locations for the benefit of those who visit this thread for info & research.

BTW. Do you know anything about this?

Loveyouruni: http://bit.ly/lXRVuC via @addthis
http://www.fusion.uk.com/students/love-your-uni/what-is-loveyouruni

"The loveyouruni project: serving thousands of churches to love millions of students*

Over the next decade the loveyouruni project aims to resource and encourage over 1000 churches to love the colleges and universities of these islands. To see a generation of Christian students live with purpose, compassion and conviction, in order that thousands more students would encounter and respond to Jesus.

The project has many expressions; sharing stories of how God is moving amongst students and commissioning them to reveal his kingdom on campus; linking new students to churches; strengthening students and student workers with training and equipping; fresh and innovative mission ideas and action; working together to disciple a generation as they are challenged to be followers of Jesus in their universities and beyond..."


*The New Apostolic Reformation is 'post-denominational' hence the drive to unify all churches into one critical mass to 'disciple'/brainwash the largest number of adherents.

The bold text smacks of NAR recruit-speak.

From what I've gathered, most of the NAR's snowballing membership is comprised of sincere Christians who are being deceived by sly heresies delivered via familiar-sounding phases. Their guard is down because they don't expect to be lied to by a fellow 'Christian'. They deserve to be warned of how they are being manipulated--especially of how they are being coached to vote...

I mean if anyone WANTS to vote for a theocracy, well that's up to them--as long as they are casting a truly informed ballot ie they fully understand that if they don't like how things turn out, there will be no recourse (no free speech, no freedom of assembly, no free press to act as a watchdog, and no opposition parties to vote for).

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2011, 03:34:23 PM »
| Documentary Looks at UK Christian Right: http://bit.ly/mjvtCM via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/5/19/185625/768

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Kingdom now (dominionist) theology: http://bit.ly/kTxYHt via @addthis
http://unitedinjesus.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=551.0;wap2

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Here's an interview with ITN CEO 'apostle' Ed Silvoso in which he relates his formative experiences:

Jesus Army: Magazine - Talking to Ed Silvoso: http://bit.ly/jj7Bm9 via @addthis
http://www.jesus.org.uk/ja/mag_talkingto_silvoso.shtml

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Here's the International Transformation Network | Harvest Evangelism's old web site:

http://www.harvestevan.org/index.html

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And here's a U.K. entry from the forum section of Harvest Evangelism's new web site (click the link on its page to see a response from Ed Silvoso):

Greetings from Reading, UK! - Transform Our World: http://bit.ly/k0j1J7 via @addthis
http://www.transformourworld.org/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/49/greetings-from-reading-uk/#Item_1

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And here's Ed Silvoso's Harvest Evangelism's new web site:

http://www.transformourworld.org/en

It lists upcoming events in Hawaii, Cincinnati and Newark

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This supplies an overview of the connection between the NAR and the ITN as well as some of their key members and strategies:

| NAR Apostles' Brand of "Transformation" to be Promoted at Conference at Harvard: http://bit.ly/mjEUuF via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/3/24/142629/678

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Canadian 'apostle' Pat Francis is mentioned in the above article. Here's a blog page on her (check out the video for a look at some of the NAR's key members and to hear what they say):

Canadian NAR apostle joins others at Harvard conference | Bene Diction Blogs On: http://bit.ly/ll2RTb via @addthis
http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2011/03/24/canadian-nar-apostle-joins-others-at-harvard-conference/

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And since this thread could use a little comedy relief, here's some anti-Gay propaganda courtesy of the U.K.'s Christian Congress for Traditional Values:

http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/xtras/antigayvid.wmv

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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2011, 08:08:24 PM »
Those of you who are alarmed by what you've learned in this thread may wish to consider joining Talk 2 Action (it's free) and opting for the Talk To Action Site Digest‏ via a daily e-mail update.

Here's the latest article:

| What Opponents of Theocracy Can Learn from the Nuba: http://bit.ly/mOXa3x via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/6/21/213927/281/Front_Page/What_Opponents_of_Theocracy_Can_Learn_from_the_Nuba

"There are many challenges in contending with theocratic political movements bent on domination. One of the challenges is building sufficient knowledge and mastering understandable terms with which to discuss these movements.  Another is making reasonable distinctions among the various groups and individuals and avoiding the intellectual and political errors of broad-brushing, and labeling and demonization.  These errors tend to confuse rather than clarify what we know (or think we know) and stop learning and conversation cold.  Good reporting, scholarship and effective political thinking and action in defense of pluralism depends on building, and being able to use and to articulate this knowledge..."

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2011, 01:09:16 AM »
Hey OP, you should go to http://www.worldviewweekend.com and listen to Brannon House's podcast on 6/21/11. He talks about how the SBC passed a resolution to lobby the US government to make legalize millions of illegal immigrants!

Hypocrite SBC! It's one thing they let Richard Land, Rick Warren, Richard Foster, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Billy Graham, and other wolves in their doors, but now they've really crossed the line by being a mouthpiece for the US government's draconian agendas. What's next? Lobby the courts to drop Obamacare lawsuits?

Anyhow, House said how the "religious right" is Obama's secret weapon. No joke! Yes, this same group that insists Christians have to vote Republican to keep their salvation et al.

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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2011, 12:17:46 PM »
Hi amazon.

Yeah, I hear you on the information overload. I learned of the existence of this mind-blowing global theocratic movement about two months ago, which in turn lead me to suspect that the NAR may have been involved in the events of 9/11. In digging around for info on the attacks I learned of the NWO that Alex Jones and his colleagues are trying to warn the world of. Who needs TV, eh?

+1 on being steady and researching the facts before going public with any info. Credibility is critical to convincing others.

One thing I've noticed about Talk2Action's voluminous collection of articles, is that while each one introduces a new subject, the overall context for said subject is often reviewed in a remedial manner via a generous number of links to related articles augmented by informative videos and often insightful comments (T2A's readers tend to be knowledgeable). This in turn helps to accelerate the pace at which one can see an ever-increasing amount of the larger picture. To use an analogy: it's like suffering through a dreary soap opera at first, but after one learns the key characters' names and picks up a few plot threads things start to get interesting and one is gradually drawn into the drama.

Have you considered starting some New Apostolic Reformation/Dominionism-titled threads in a few U.K. religious forums? Doing so may draw NAR info out into the open while simultaneously educating others re this theocratic menace which may be afoot locally. The folks here could likely name some good forums:

Religious Debates - UK Debate Forum: http://bit.ly/ltBYlr via @addthis
http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/forums/index.php?board=37.0

Missionary in Northern Ireland - Christian Forums: http://www.christianforums.com/t7559727/ via @addthis
http://www.christianforums.com/t7559727/

250,000 members.

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FTR I do not believe in organized religion (I wasn't raised with it) but I DO believe in a power of creation which is inherently positive.

It's a darned shame when rogues and/or biblical literalists abuse the best of what religion has to offer just to hurtfully satisfy their own hubris (only I know God's true word).

IMO such presumption defines the genesis and course of history's lament.

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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 02:39:11 PM »
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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 06:58:19 PM »
Dominionists push to privatize public schools:

| Strategy for Privatizing Public Schools Spelled out by Dick DeVos in 2002 Heritage Foundation Speech: http://bit.ly/iq5uNm via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/5/3/12515/58655

"We need to be cautious about talking too much about these activities," Dick DeVos warned in a December 2002 speech at the Heritage Foundation. DeVos was introduced by former Secretary of Education William Bennett and then proposed a stealth strategy for promoting school vouchers in state legislatures.  DeVos and his wife Betsy had already spent millions promoting voucher initiatives that were soundly rejected by voters.  Pro-privatization think tanks had concluded that vouchers were the most politically viable way to "dismantle" public schools; the DeVoses persevered.  Dick DeVos introduced his 2002 Heritage Foundation audience to a covert strategy to provide "rewards or consequences" to state legislators, learning from the activities of the Great Lake Education Project (GLEP) initiated by Betsy DeVos. Vouchers should be promoted by local "grass roots" entities and could not be "viewed as only a conservative idea."  DeVos added, "This has got to be the battle.  It will not be as visible."

Ten years later, the DeVos stealth strategy has been implemented and is winning the voucher war in several states.  As recommended to the Heritage Foundation in 2002, the public face of the movement is bipartisan and grass roots, and millions of dollars are poured into media firms to reinforce that image. However, behind the scenes the movement continues to be led by the DeVoses, and the funding used to provide "rewards or consequences" for state legislators continues to be raised from a small group of mega-donors.

Dick DeVos is the son of Richard and Helen DeVos, major funders of the Republican party and of numerous "free market" think tanks. The DeVos fortune was made through Amway, the multi-tiered home products business. Betsy DeVos is the sister of Erik Prince of Blackwater notoriety and the daughter of Elsa and the late Edgar Prince, major funders of Religious Right political activism."


And here's a video presentation of the curriculum which is being taught:

| Preview of "School Choice: Taxpayer-Funded Creationism, Bigotry, and Bias": http://bit.ly/kNH2xF via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/6/27/151131/081/Front_Page/Preview_of_quot_School_Choice_Taxpayer_Funded_Creationism_Bigotry_and_Bias_quot_

"The video below is a short preview of the 34-minute video "School Choice: Taxpayer-Funded Creationism, Bigotry, and Bias."  Private schools receiving funding through "school choice" programs are using A Beka Book, Bob Jones University Press, and other Protestant fundamentalist curricula.  The textbooks in these series teach that dinosaurs lived on earth with humans; deny global warming; promote hostility toward other religions and other sectors of Christianity (particularly Roman Catholicism); provide a biased and often factually incorrect version of history; and teach extreme laissez-faire economics, claimed to be biblically-based.
   
The full length video (embedded at end of article) focuses on the state of Pennsylvania and its Education Improvement Tax Credit program or EITC, the oldest and second largest corporate tax credit program in the country..."

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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2011, 08:18:15 PM »
Dominionists push to privatize public schools:

| Strategy for Privatizing Public Schools Spelled out by Dick DeVos in 2002 Heritage Foundation Speech: http://bit.ly/iq5uNm via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/5/3/12515/58655

"We need to be cautious about talking too much about these activities," Dick DeVos warned in a December 2002 speech at the Heritage Foundation. DeVos was introduced by former Secretary of Education William Bennett and then proposed a stealth strategy for promoting school vouchers in state legislatures.  DeVos and his wife Betsy had already spent millions promoting voucher initiatives that were soundly rejected by voters.  Pro-privatization think tanks had concluded that vouchers were the most politically viable way to "dismantle" public schools; the DeVoses persevered.  Dick DeVos introduced his 2002 Heritage Foundation audience to a covert strategy to provide "rewards or consequences" to state legislators, learning from the activities of the Great Lake Education Project (GLEP) initiated by Betsy DeVos. Vouchers should be promoted by local "grass roots" entities and could not be "viewed as only a conservative idea."  DeVos added, "This has got to be the battle.  It will not be as visible."

Ten years later, the DeVos stealth strategy has been implemented and is winning the voucher war in several states.  As recommended to the Heritage Foundation in 2002, the public face of the movement is bipartisan and grass roots, and millions of dollars are poured into media firms to reinforce that image. However, behind the scenes the movement continues to be led by the DeVoses, and the funding used to provide "rewards or consequences" for state legislators continues to be raised from a small group of mega-donors.

Dick DeVos is the son of Richard and Helen DeVos, major funders of the Republican party and of numerous "free market" think tanks. The DeVos fortune was made through Amway, the multi-tiered home products business. Betsy DeVos is the sister of Erik Prince of Blackwater notoriety and the daughter of Elsa and the late Edgar Prince, major funders of Religious Right political activism."


And here's a video presentation of the curriculum which is being taught:

| Preview of "School Choice: Taxpayer-Funded Creationism, Bigotry, and Bias": http://bit.ly/kNH2xF via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/6/27/151131/081/Front_Page/Preview_of_quot_School_Choice_Taxpayer_Funded_Creationism_Bigotry_and_Bias_quot_

"The video below is a short preview of the 34-minute video "School Choice: Taxpayer-Funded Creationism, Bigotry, and Bias."  Private schools receiving funding through "school choice" programs are using A Beka Book, Bob Jones University Press, and other Protestant fundamentalist curricula.  The textbooks in these series teach that dinosaurs lived on earth with humans; deny global warming; promote hostility toward other religions and other sectors of Christianity (particularly Roman Catholicism); provide a biased and often factually incorrect version of history; and teach extreme laissez-faire economics, claimed to be biblically-based.
   
The full length video (embedded at end of article) focuses on the state of Pennsylvania and its Education Improvement Tax Credit program or EITC, the oldest and second largest corporate tax credit program in the country..."


DeVos/Van Andel ( Amway founders) were 33rd degree Masons.  Their brand of theology is completely and totally NWO. 

And they became quite adept at one of the other tentacles of Freemasonry - Mind Control.  It's really quite easy to change someone into a robot/drone, without MK Ultra techniques.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/cultism.htm

The textbooks in these series teach that dinosaurs lived on earth with humans; deny global warming; promote hostility toward other religions and other sectors of Christianity (particularly Roman Catholicism); provide a biased and often factually incorrect version of history.

Please be aware that the above sentence only reinforces the left/right paradigm. "Global Warming"??? there are whole multitudes of threads on here devoted to that cultish mindset.  Global Warming/Climate Change is the new boogeyman for everyone to fear.  Now, at least, TPTB have a way to tax the very air we breathe!   :D :D :D  Humans living on earth with dinosaurs?  Why is that not possible?  Depends on how old you believe the earth/human beings to be, doesn't it?  promote hostility toward other religions and other sectors of Christianity (particularly Roman Catholicism)
Many on here believe that Roman Catholicism and Mystery Babylon (the religion of the NWO) are basically the same thing now.  And most large churches are NWO mouthpieces anyway.  I am not speaking of individual catholics - only their religious rituals/history/belief system.  If you read that link provided, you will find that many characteristics of what make up a "cult" are blatantly present in Roman Catholicism.

My fave part of that sentence though, is "factually incorrect version of history".  Hahaha!  Like any textbooks in our dumbed-down educational system actually contain factually correct history??   ;D ;D ;D

Almost EVERYTHING we have been taught since childhood............is a lie. Not completely everything.....but most, in my opinion.   ;)

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2011, 09:31:30 PM »
A possible breakthrough in expanding public awareness of Dominionism in America:

| New Apostolic Reformation's Apostles Receiving Long Overdue National Coverage: http://bit.ly/qIvsBc via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/7/13/03334/8216/Front_Page/New_Apostolic_Reformation_s_Apostles_Receiving_Long_Overdue_National_Coverage

"Texas Governor Rick Perry's August 6 prayer event is finally drawing national coverage of the apostles of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).  Today, Rachel Maddow aired a series of video clips posted at Right Wing Watch of apostles that have endorsed the event..."

Rachel Maddow: Dangers of sex with demons highlighted by Perry prayer participant: http://on.msnbc.com/pZoUpI via @addthis
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#43734392

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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2011, 09:47:55 PM »
DeVos/Van Andel ( Amway founders) were 33rd degree Masons.  Their brand of theology is completely and totally NWO. 

And they became quite adept at one of the other tentacles of Freemasonry - Mind Control.  It's really quite easy to change someone into a robot/drone, without MK Ultra techniques.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/cultism.htm

The textbooks in these series teach that dinosaurs lived on earth with humans; deny global warming; promote hostility toward other religions and other sectors of Christianity (particularly Roman Catholicism); provide a biased and often factually incorrect version of history.

Please be aware that the above sentence only reinforces the left/right paradigm. "Global Warming"??? there are whole multitudes of threads on here devoted to that cultish mindset.  Global Warming/Climate Change is the new boogeyman for everyone to fear.  Now, at least, TPTB have a way to tax the very air we breathe!   :D :D :D  Humans living on earth with dinosaurs?  Why is that not possible?  Depends on how old you believe the earth/human beings to be, doesn't it?  promote hostility toward other religions and other sectors of Christianity (particularly Roman Catholicism)
Many on here believe that Roman Catholicism and Mystery Babylon (the religion of the NWO) are basically the same thing now.  And most large churches are NWO mouthpieces anyway.  I am not speaking of individual catholics - only their religious rituals/history/belief system.  If you read that link provided, you will find that many characteristics of what make up a "cult" are blatantly present in Roman Catholicism.

My fave part of that sentence though, is "factually incorrect version of history".  Hahaha!  Like any textbooks in our dumbed-down educational system actually contain factually correct history??   ;D ;D ;D

Almost EVERYTHING we have been taught since childhood............is a lie. Not completely everything.....but most, in my opinion.   ;)

Thank you for the additional insight grneyelady.

The more I learn about this the-truth-is-stranger-than-fiction stuff, the more I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. 0_o

At the moment it appears that the NAR/Dominionist movement is vying with the NWO for global domination--with everyone else being caught in the middle. :-/

Man, all I wanna do is play my bass guitar and forget about these m-wuh-ha-ha-ha! NUT-BARS!

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2011, 01:34:52 AM »
Thank you for the additional insight grneyelady.

The more I learn about this the-truth-is-stranger-than-fiction stuff, the more I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. 0_o

At the moment it appears that the NAR/Dominionist movement is vying with the NWO for global domination--with everyone else being caught in the middle. :-/

Man, all I wanna do is play my bass guitar and forget about these m-wuh-ha-ha-ha! NUT-BARS!

HI MIJ-VI,  NAR/Dominionist Movement and the NWO are one and the same.  The Globalists own all sides of the different parts...and pit them against each other.  Divide and conquer is one of the oldest strategies in the world.  And quite successful, unfortunately. They control most large "Christian" denominations/Roman Catholicism/Kabbala/most Islam/Buddhism/Bahai/PETA/New AGE....etc.  They must control all in order to bring them into the one "Universal Church"....which is their goal.  Global Government/Global Economy/GLobal "One World Faith".  All just one big happy slavecamp!

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2011, 05:43:13 AM »
HI MIJ-VI,  NAR/Dominionist Movement and the NWO are one and the same.  The Globalists own all sides of the different parts...and pit them against each other.  Divide and conquer is one of the oldest strategies in the world.  And quite successful, unfortunately. They control most large "Christian" denominations/Roman Catholicism/Kabbala/most Islam/Buddhism/Bahai/PETA/New AGE....etc.  They must control all in order to bring them into the one "Universal Church"....which is their goal.  Global Government/Global Economy/GLobal "One World Faith".  All just one big happy slavecamp!

The reason I thought they may be at odds is this: the NAR/Dominionists dismiss global warming as being a real problem and are opposed to a globally-imposed carbon tax. More importantly they believe that the international environmental movement is a cult bent upon achieving global domination--which ironically competes with their own demonstrable efforts to do the same.

YouTube - Resisting the Green Dragon: http://bit.ly/jtJFda via @addthis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGEOFipx70U

Now while the folks in the above video are more familiar as being figures in the Religious Right, the R.R. has allied itself in recent times with the theocratic NAR/Dominionist movement for political gain. In support of that assertion the following video montage includes a clip in which 'Resisting the Green Dragon' participant Bryan Fischer (of the American Family Association) declares @ ~ 02:50 "...counterfeit religions, alternative religions to Christianity have no first amendment right to the free exercise of religion..."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#43734392

Another participant in "Resisting the Green Dragon" is self-taught historian David Barton (well known for his declaration that the wall of separation is "a myth") who is on record as supporting the NAR's 'Seven Mountains' strategy for the theocratic takeover of nations:

David Barton Advocates Seven Mountains Dominionism | Right Wing Watch: http://bit.ly/eQRKEG via @addthis
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/david-barton-advocates-seven-mountains-dominionism

And then there's this piece:

The Religious Right uniting with Religious Renegades, Part 1: http://bit.ly/m8g6qn via @addthis
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/mwest/110518

"Some Religious Right leaders have joined forces with movers and shakers, literally speaking, of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). They have been warned about this "New Breed" of Christian and their global kingdom agenda and have chosen to disregard the warnings. This article will put to rest the notion that the NAR's esoteric doctrines fall within the pale of orthodox Christianity. The hope of course is that the Religious or Christian Right will wake up and smell the coffee and sever all ties with these renegades..."

As well, American televangelist Pat Robertson published a book titled The New World Order in 1991 which warns of the NWO's intentions. He was inspired to do so by Carroll Quigley's Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time

Carroll Quigley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://bit.ly/rqMpY7 via @addthis
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Carroll_Quigley

Adobe .pdf versions of Carroll Quigley's books can be downloaded from the above link. Unfortunately the scanned .pdf of Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time is missing pages 62 - 63.

Here's a different .pdf source for Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time which has an Introduction by Michael L. Chadwick:

Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time By Carroll Quigley (1966)
http://www.tranquility.net/~rwinkel/911/TragedyAndHope.pdf

"...In 1996 I published a 24 volume study entitled Global Governance in the Twenty First Century. The multi-volume work was the result of my extensive travels and research throughout the United States, Europe and Middle East. It fully collaborates the assertions and statements made by professor Carroll Quigley in Tragedy and Hope. It is my sincere hope the reader will take the time to carefully peruse and ponder the words of this rather remarkable book. And afterwards, I hope the reader will have a desire to thoroughly read and ponder the contents of Global Governance in the Twenty First Century." ~ from Introduction by Michael L. Chadwick

Here's an on-line version:

Tragedy & Hope - Carroll Quigley (Contents / Intro / Preface): http://bit.ly/ocJjvC via @addthis
http://real-world-news.org/bk-quigley/00.html

And here's Michael L. Chadwick's Global Governance in the Twenty-First Century which can be read on-line:

Global Governance in the Twenty-First Century By Michael L. Chadwick: http://bit.ly/pKCvFs via @addthis
http://www.alexanderhamiltoninstitute.org/lp/Hancock/CD-ROMS/Global%20Governance%20in%20the%20Twenty%20First%20Century%20-%20TOC.htm

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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2011, 08:37:24 PM »
It isn't a question of whether we will live in a theocracy or not, since we all live in a theocracy, the question is whose theocracy will we live under, Humanism, Islamofacism or Christianity.

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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2011, 09:06:57 PM »
Man I wish more folks would pitch in here so that collectively we could completely surround what appears to be a struggle between the NWO and the NAR for control of the United States and the world.

I don't mean to be an alarmist but based upon my current understanding of these two opposing forces, my fear is that if an NAR/Dominionist candidate comes close to claiming the White House in 2012 the NWO may just pull the plug, stage some false flags, declare marshal law and start rounding up those whom they regard as forming a threat to their aims--in short darn near everyone, especially anyone wearing a Cross.

Some historical perspective on the Dominionist movement in the U.S.

"Life and Liberty for All Who Believe" is a powerful, 28 minute video documenting the birth of the Moral Majority. This video, produced by People for the American Way in 1982, shows actual footage of the politicization of what has become the dominionist movement. (edited 2004)"
http://www.theocracywatch.org/audio-video.htm

Given the extent to which Dominionists have since insinuated themselves into all levels of government, the military and the corporate spheres, a NWO power grab could trigger a civil war.

I REALLY hope I'm wrong about this but presently it doesn't appear to be a possibility which can be dismissed with any certainty.

BTW I've updated this:

HOW GAYS ARE BEING USED TO CREATE A THEOCRACY
http://howgaysarebeingusedtocreateatheocracy.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-gays-are-being-used-to-create.html

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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2011, 09:41:24 PM »
I am a dominionist and I can say that we have not infiltrated government. We are a small minority who believe in the historic christian faith. we also do not believe in top down heavy government, we believe that a theonomy/Christian culture with Christian laws will come about when the citizens become christianized and ask for Christian laws.

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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2011, 02:28:27 AM »
| Rachel Maddow, There is Much, Much More to the Story of Rick Perry's Apostles: http://bit.ly/nAQFKi via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/7/16/115221/583/Front_Page/Rachel_Maddow_There_is_Much_Much_More_to_the_Story_of_Rick_Perry_s_Apostles

"...Peter Wagner is the Convening Apostle of a international network of apostles and prophets who believe they are unifying the church to take control over government and society, and bring about the return of Jesus.  The apostles have a 50-state communications and mobilization network of "prayer warriors," which is becoming increasingly enticing to right-wing politicians.  Remember Sarah Palin's repeated thanks to her prayer warrriors?  This was not a generic use of the term, as described in a previous Alternet article by Bill Berkowitz in 2010.

Wagner coined the term New Apostolic Reformation, and describes his movement as "the most radical  change in the way of doing church since the Protestant Reformation."  The movement primarily draws from the Independent Charismatic sector of Christianity, which encompasses almost 400 million people worldwide and is sometimes referred to as neo-Pentecostal or neo-Charismatic. The latter description is used in the World Christian Trends, the gold standard for statistics for the evangelical missions movement..."

Apostles and Politics

In the U.S., in addition to Sarah Palin and Sam Brownback, Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum, Jim DeMint, and many others have participated in events led by the apostles.  In Jacksonville, Florida, Kimberly Daniels, a leading apostle specializing in demon expulsion was recently elected to city council - as a Democrat.  In the primaries prior to the 2010 election, Hawaii's gubernatorial race included two candidates working closely with Apostle Ed Slivoso's International Transformation Network - Republican Duke Aiona and Democrat Mufi Hannemann..."


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An article by a writer who experienced a Dominionist upbringing

Daily Kos: Why the subject of dominionism is rather...personal to me.: http://bit.ly/mQRM4Y via @addthis
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/12/256547/-Why-the-subject-of-dominionism-is-ratherpersonal-to-me

"...As you'll find out by reading, the reason I fight is actually quite personal--I hope that by educating people that we can stop kids--including the "Jesus Camp" kids--from living with the same longterm scars that myself and other walkaways deal with every day.

I'm also writing this piece to give you some insight into the viewpoint of the "spiritual warfare" crowd--and maybe, just maybe, some ideas to help those of us breaking away and to keep the country from being hijacked.

There's a reason I write about dominionism--not just on the political threat, but the real threat inherent in these groups by virtue of many of the hardline "spiritual warfare" dominionists being in essence abusive Bible-based cults.

I know all too well about the danger these groups present--not just for the country, but for the kids themselves.  I in fact live with it everyday.

You see...I was once one of those kids like in "Jesus Camp" myself.

I'm a survivor of the same "Third Wave" (aka "Joel's Army") dominionist movement that spawned the camp depicted in "Jesus Camp".  I even remember in my youth attending a day-camp program run by the dominionist church I escaped--one that was very much like "Jesus Camp", in fact...

...I've posted a brief example of code words particularly used in pente and charismatic dominionist groups, many of which act as "stop words" or "start words" in the community; many of the "code words" that have been documented in use by dominionists are also "thought stopper" words.

Among other things, when dominionists talk about the "homosexual agenda"--that is literally a "thought stopper" phrase that dominionists use to essentially get their members to not only go into two-minute hates about everything related to LGBT folks--but there's the spiritually abusive preaching that literally teaches that gays are the servants of the devil himself and out to molest their kids (playing on fear and the need for a Great Enemy), plus other coercive tactics that teach that church leaders and other "men of God" (including fellow dominionists) are never to be questioned, combined with teachings in many churches that claim reading any info non-approved by the church or even doing business with non-dominionists will "open doorways for Satan" in one's life and cause one to become hopelessly insane, penniless, oh, and damned literally to Hell... THAT's what goes through the dominionist's head when he hears AFA leaders ranting about gay people..."


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Description: "The feverish spectacle of a summer camp for evangelical Christian kids is the focus of Jesus Camp, a fascinating if sometimes alarming documentary. (Shortly after its release, the movie gained a new notoriety when Ted Haggard, president of the National Association of Evangelicals, who appears near the end of the film, resigned his post amid a male prostitute’s allegations of drug use and sexual misconduct.)

For most of the film, we follow a charismatic teacher, Becky Fischer, as she trains young soldiers in “God’s Army” at a camp in North Dakota. Some of the kids emerge as likable and bright, and eager to continue their work as pint-sized preachers; elsewhere, the visions of children speaking in tongues and falling to the floor in ecstasy are more troubling. Even more arresting is the vision of a generation of children home-schooled to believe that the Bible is science, or Fischer’s certainty that America’s flawed system of democracy will someday be replaced by a theocracy. (In one scene, a cardboard cut-out of George W. Bush is presented to the children, who react by laying their hands on the figure as though in a religious procession.)

Filmmakers Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady maintain neutrality about all this, maybe too much so (they throw in some interviews with radio host Mike Papantonio to provide a liberal-Christian viewpoint) and one would like to know more about the grown-ups presented here. Power broker Haggard is the creepiest person in the film, an insincere smooth talker whose advice to one of the young would-be campgoers comes across as entirely cynical. Time will tell whether the film’s Christian soldiers will be marching onward."


Brain Washing ( Jesus Camp ''Highlights'' )‏ - YouTube: http://bit.ly/ogMGAI via @addthis
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http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2008/fall/arming-for-armageddon

"...Tattooed across his sternum are military dog tags that read "Joel's Army." They're evidence of Bentley's generalship in a rapidly growing apocalyptic movement that's gone largely unnoticed by watchdogs of the theocratic right. According to Bentley and a handful of other "hyper-charismatic" preachers advancing the same agenda, Joel's Army is prophesied to become an Armageddon-ready military force of young people with a divine mandate to physically impose Christian "dominion" on non-believers..."

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Association of Former Pentecostals - Ex-Pentecostals.org: http://ex-pentecostals.org/ via @addthis

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Whether you're seeking out information for your own spiritual journey, or you just want to connect with those with similar life experiences -- you've found your home!"


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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2011, 02:51:32 AM »
Dominionism by stealth in the Pentagon

America's Holy Warriors: http://bit.ly/jIzTlY via @addthis
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/AmericasHolyWarriors.html

"The drive by the Christian right to take control of military chaplaincies, which now sees radical Christians holding roughly 50 percent of chaplaincy appointments in the armed services and service academies, is part of a much larger effort to politicize the military and law enforcement. This effort signals the final and perhaps most deadly stage in the long campaign by the radical Christian right to dismantle America’s open society and build a theocratic state. A successful politicization of the military would signal the end of our democracy....

...The politicization of the military, the fostering of the belief that violence must be used to further a peculiar ideology rather than defend a democracy, was on display recently when Air Force and Army generals and colonels, filmed in uniform at the Pentagon, appeared in a promotional video distributed by the Christian Embassy, a radical Washington-based organization dedicated to building a "Christian America."..."


Christian Embassy Video Shot In The Pentagon: http://bit.ly/msMCSW via @addthis
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3193855677483229519&emb=1&hl=en#

Christian Embassy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://bit.ly/lGiBrS via @addthis

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http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/8/6/23545/40631/Dominionism_in_the_military/New_Evidence_Challenges_Pentagon_Testimony_In_quot_Christian_Embassy_quot_Video_Scandal

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Daily Kos: Dominionist cell churches and religious abuse: http://bit.ly/kPxOkS via @addthis
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/08/11/370152/-Dominionist-cell-churches-and-religious-abuse

"Yesterday, I began a mini-series on dominionist cell churches--a subject I've touched upon in past in regards to steeplejacking and political party takeovers, but not so much on the history of cell churches within dominionist congregations themselves and their use in control of members.

Yesterday, we focused on the origins of dominionism within the Assemblies of God (including its invention by Paul Yonggi Cho, who was head of the Assemblies' world governing council throughout the 90's and who also originated a lot of other bad habits there); today, we focus on how cell churches are set up and how they are used to keep members in line--a subject of some increasing importance, seeing as one of the primary groups using the "cell church" model happens to be at the very center of the "Christian Embassy" scandal in our own military..."


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Military Might in the Name of Who?: http://bit.ly/n7b7TN via @addthis
http://www.politicususa.com/en/military-might-in-the-name-of-who

"...Mr. Weinstein, USAFA is literally overrun with Christian conservative fanatics. And the leadership here either knows this or is ridiculously blind to it.

If any of us gave even the slightest indication that we weren’t one of their number, our lives would be even more miserable than they already are due to the fact that we are all living lies here. Despite the Cadet Honor Code we all lie about our lives. We have to. We don’t have a choice. Thus we are all “invisible” to our tormentors. They will never find us. My own parents don’t know. Only my finacee knows and he/she is one of my classmates and a fellow member of our underground group.

I keep “Christian” books and “Christian” CD’s in my room so others will be fooled and leave me alone and not suspect that I’m not actually with the USAFA “Christianity is the Only Way” program here, even though I consider myself to be a Christian. Sometimes we got to their “bible studies” or attend SPIRE events and hold our breath that we’re not “outed”. Many of this group I kind of lead does exactly the same things..."


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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2011, 12:29:48 PM »
Rick Perry's Army of God - The Texas Observer: http://bit.ly/qXB2VC via @addthis
https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god

"A little-known movement of radical Christians and self-proclaimed prophets wants to infiltrate government, and Rick Perry might be their man."

"...If they simply professed unusual beliefs, movement leaders wouldn’t be remarkable. But what makes the New Apostolic Reformation movement so potent is its growing fascination with infiltrating politics and government. The new prophets and apostles believe Christians—certain Christians—are destined to not just take “dominion” over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the “Seven Mountains” of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world. They believe they’re intended to lord over it all. As a first step, they’re leading an “army of God” to commandeer civilian government.

In Rick Perry, they may have found their vessel. And the interest appears to be mutual...

...Perry certainly knows how to speak the language of the new apostles. The genesis of The Response, Perry says, comes from the Book of Joel, an obscure slice of the Old Testament that’s popular with the apostolic crowd..."


Mike Bickle - Studies in the Book of Joel (2010): http://bit.ly/pCpjZR via @addthis
http://mikebickle.org/resources/series/studies-in-the-book-of-joel-2010

“Apostles are the generals in the army of God.” ~ C. Peter Wagner

“We’re going to influence it. We’re going to infiltrate it, not run from it. I know why God’s doing what he’s doing ... He’s just simply saying, ‘Tom I’ve given you authority in a governmental authority, and I need you to infiltrate the governmental mountain. Just do it, it’s no big deal.’ I was talking with [a member of the congregation] the other day. She’s going to start infiltrating. A very simple process. She’s going to join the Republican Party, start going to all their meetings. Some [members] are already doing that.” ~ Tom Schlueter

“The church’s vocation is to rule history with God. We are called into the very image of the Trinity himself, that we are to be His friends and partners for world dominion.” ~ Lou Engle

"...Some of the fiercest critics of the New Apostolic Reformation come from within the Pentecostal and charismatic world. The Assemblies of God Church, the largest organized Pentecostal denomination, specifically repudiated self-proclaimed prophets and apostles in 2000, calling their creed a “deviant teaching” that could rapidly “become dictatorial, presumptuous, and carnal.”

Assemblies authorities also rejected the notion that the church is supposed to assume dominion over earthly institutions, labeling it “unscriptural triumphalism.”..."


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Two New Apostolic Reformation organizations in 50 states

Heartland Apostolic Prayer Network (HAPN): http://www.hapn.us/ via @addthis

Reformation Prayer Network | Prayer | Generals.org: http://www.generals.org/prayer/ via @addthis

"The Reformation Prayer Network is a prayer movement for igniting a holy reformation in every sphere of society. RPN is building a network in all fifty states of the United States for each of the seven mountains and also among local churches, children, youth, and intercessory worshipers. Internationally, we are appointing national coordinators for various people and for language groups also. Join us as we legislate in the heavens in reformation intercession!"

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2011, 02:37:51 PM »
John 18:36

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
"We have reached a stage at which we have surrounded ourselves with more things, but have less joy." - The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky translated by Ignat Avsey

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2011, 04:57:55 PM »
John 18:36

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
if you want to know what theonomy is about go to www.theonomyresources.blogspot.com

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2011, 07:22:34 PM »
There's no way any Christian I've met would do this! ;-\

WARNING: Innocent children being senselessly brutalized.

Return to Africa’s Witch Children | Watch Free Documentary Online: http://bit.ly/aODLW0 via @addthis
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/return-to-africas-witch-children/

"A story of an estimated 15,000 children in Africa’s Niger Delta being denounced by Christian pastors as witches and wizards and then killed, tortured or abandoned by their own families.

Two-and-a-half-year-old Ellin is one such child. Found at the side of the road, her body having been severely burnt with boiling water. Nwanakwo, eight years old, had acid poured over him after being labeled a wizard, and later died.

Return to Africa’s Witch Children is a documentary that follows the work of Gary Foxcroft, an Englishman whose charity, Stepping Stones, raises funds to help care for more than 150 children accused of witchcraft, and blamed for catastrophes, death and famine. Narrated by Sophie Okonedo."


The charity that's trying to help these "witch children".

Stepping Stones (Africa's "Witch Childen") http://bit.ly/kgBLXU via @addthis
http://www.steppingstonesnigeria.org/history.html

Welcome to Make a PACT.org PACT campaigns against child witchcraft-related abuse: http://www.makeapact.org/ via @addthis

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| American connections to African witchhunts: http://bit.ly/cn0usL via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2010/9/21/223455/252

"Throughout Africa -- mainly in Christian countries -- vast numbers of children have been abandoned by their parents, or worse, often maimed or tortured, on suspicion of being "witches."

The witch hunts aren't just a resurgence of indigenous beliefs.  They are part of a new and rapidly growing worldwide religious movement within the Pentecostal/charismatic branch of Christianity.

Aggressive crusades against alleged malevolent "witches" are encouraged by the "spiritual warfare" doctrines of some major leaders of one of the world's fastest-growing international religious movements, the "apostolic and prophetic" wing of Pentecostal/Charismatic Christianity...

...Traditionally, to most Christians, the term "spiritual warfare" has usually referred to an internal moral struggle.  However, to growing numbers of "apostolic and prophetic" leaders such as C. Peter Wagner and Ed Silvoso, "spiritual warfare" means things like exorcism, witch hunts (a.k.a. "spiritual mapping"), burning non-Christian religious artifacts, and "discipling" whole nations -- including their governments, not just individual citizens.

A leading network within this movement, the New Apostolic Reformation, has an explicitly theocratic goal, the "seven mountains mandate":  they explicitly desire to take over seven spheres of power in society including government.  And they aim to eradicate what they see as demonic influences, including gays and all non-Christian religions.  Their successes in some countries, such as Uganda, have had dire consequences such as Uganda's kill-the-gays bill..."

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2011, 01:48:51 AM »
New Age Belief System or Atheism (including Climate Change/Gaia Worship, etc)  vs    New Apostolic Reformation/Dominionism
                         
                              THESIS                         vs                                                    ANTITHESIS

                                                                    =

                                                       
                                                    SYNTHESIS
                                                                         
                                                                                   
Same game/different teams

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2011, 04:06:04 PM »
if you want to know what theonomy is about go to www.theonomyresources.blogspot.com

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dark_Ages

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Crusades

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Inquisition

"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely." ~ Lord Acton

Substituting one top-down tyranny for another is not the answer.

IMHO if folks in the U.S. regain control of their country they should tear down the Fed' and use its bricks to build an impenetrable Wall Of Separation then renew their civil society in accordance with the pluralistic ideals expressed in America's founding documents as they were originally written.

Throwing off the Federal Reserve phony debt monkey would eventually re-enable single breadwinner households so that mom or dad could stay at home to raise their kids into thoughtful & responsible citizens.

In an effort to combat group-think and to decentralize political control structures a robust home schooling movement promoting divergent viewpoints & critical thinking underpinning some form of this would be worth considering:

Switzerland's Political System: Decentralisation, Federalism and Direct Democracy: http://bit.ly/oQatfG via @addthis
http://www.democracy-building.info/switzerlands-political-system.html

My $0.02

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2011, 04:11:15 PM »
"ANYONE who tells me HOW I SHOULD worship
my CREATOR of all that is seen  & unseen
whom Jesus called ABBA aka "Daddy",
has an underlying streak of fascism in their personality, IMHO."


Agreed.

"Seek out the company of those who are searching for the truth. But avoid at all cost those who claim to have found it!" ~ Anonymous

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2011, 05:17:13 PM »
BTW. Leah L Burton, who authored Military Might in the Name of Who? posted above, is writing a series of articles on Dominionism in U.S. politics.

One can follow Leah's informative series by checking the following link each Sunday:

Leah L Burton: http://bit.ly/nc5nRV via @addthis
http://www.politicususa.com/en/author/admin

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2011, 05:18:49 PM »
Hello MIJ-IV !

Nice to see you here.

You have so much to add to the discussion on these topics.
Your sources and links to relevant information are impressive.

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2011, 05:58:25 PM »

"Seek out the company of those who are searching for the truth. But avoid at all cost those who claim to have found it!" ~ Anonymous
why search for something you cannot find?

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2011, 09:12:39 PM »
why search for something you cannot find?

To counter the assertions of those who claim to have found it.

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2011, 09:17:10 PM »
To counter the assertions of those who claim to have found it.
its a practice in folly to be ever searching for truth which you cannot find, yet in the same sentence speaking with surety as if you found it.

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2011, 05:16:15 PM »
The mainstream media FINALLY starts to wake up to the New Apostolic Reformation/Dominionism!

@jackcafferty | CNN's Blitzer & Cafferty: 'Never Heard of Dominionism': http://bit.ly/qKCAsw via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/8/19/12651/2228/Front_Page/CNN_s_Blitzer_amp_Cafferty_Never_Heard_of_Dominionism_

Bachmann & Perry Deeply Associated With Dominionism! Belief Christians Have God Given Right To Rule - YouTube: http://bit.ly/qX2k45 .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCky6hnHsGM&feature=youtu.be

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I dare say that Ron Paul's - and America's & the world's - prospects for 2012 are about to surge! :D

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2011, 07:11:18 PM »
Perry and Bachman are evangelicals. Theonomists and Dominionists are Calvinistic in their outlook. Evangelicals are Arminianistic.

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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2011, 07:19:18 PM »
The mainstream media FINALLY starts to wake up to the New Apostolic Reformation/Dominionism!

@jackcafferty | CNN's Blitzer & Cafferty: 'Never Heard of Dominionism': http://bit.ly/qKCAsw via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/8/19/12651/2228/Front_Page/CNN_s_Blitzer_amp_Cafferty_Never_Heard_of_Dominionism_

Bachmann & Perry Deeply Associated With Dominionism! Belief Christians Have God Given Right To Rule - YouTube: http://bit.ly/qX2k45 .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCky6hnHsGM&feature=youtu.be

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I dare say that Ron Paul's - and America's & the world's - prospects for 2012 are about to surge! :D
I certainly can not argue with that outcome.  Perry and Bachman are just pondscum no matter what faith they claim.

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2011, 08:08:09 PM »
Why Is the Military Spending Millions on Christian Contractors Bent on Evangelizing US Soldiers? | | AlterNet: http://bit.ly/qGV6IH .
http://www.alternet.org/story/152120/why_is_the_military_spending_millions_on_christian_contractors_bent_on_evangelizing_us_soldiers?page=entire

"...About a year ago, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) began an investigation into just how much money the DoD spends on promoting religion to military personnel and their families. What prompted this interest in DoD spending on religion was finding out what the DoD was spending on certain individual events and programs, such as the $125 million spent on the Army's Comprehensive Soldier Fitness program and its controversial "Spiritual Fitness" test, a mandatory test that must be taken by all soldiers. The Army insists that this test is not religious, but the countless complaints from soldiers who have failed this "fitness" test tell a different story. The experience of one group of soldiers who weren't "spiritual" enough for the Army can be read here. But the term "Spiritual Fitness is not limited to this one test. The military began using this term to describe a variety of initiatives and events towards the end of 2006, and this `code phrase' for promoting religion was heavily in use by all branches of the military by 2007.

Although it was clear from the start of MRFF's investigation that determining the total dollar figure for the DoD's rampant promotion of religion (which is always evangelical and/or fundamentalist Christianity) would be next to impossible, as this would require FOIA requests to every one of over 700 military installations to find out how much each is spending out of various funds at the installation level, one thing we could look at was DoD contracts, so that's where we started. What we've found so far is astounding.

Even though this is still an ongoing project, and we'll certainly be finding much more, I thought that given all the current brouhaha over what should be cut from the federal budget, people might be interested to see some of examples of how the DoD is spending countless millions of taxpayer dollars every year to Christianize the military.

As mentioned above, what MRFF is looking at does not include chaplains or chapels -- not even the excessive spending on extravagant "chapels" like the $30,000,000 mega-church at Fort Hood, or the "Spiritual Fitness" centers being built on many military bases as part of what are called Resiliency Campuses. The examples below are all strictly from DoD contracts, with the funding coming out of the appropriations for things like "Operations and Maintenance" and, somehow, "Research and Development." (Summaries of all contracts referenced below are publicly available at usaspending.gov)

Evangelical Christian Concerts Under the Guise of "Spiritual Fitness"

One of the most direct expenditures of money on religious proselytizing, under the guise of "Spiritual Fitness" spending, is the funding of concerts with the top evangelical Christian performers. These concerts are most prevalent on Army posts, although they also occur on installations of other branches of the military. One concert series that stands out, both because soldiers were punished last year for not attending one of the concerts and because of the cost of hiring the musical acts, is the "Commanding Generals' Spiritual Fitness Concert Series" at Fort Eustis and Fort Lee in Virginia. This is not a chapel concert series, but a command sponsored "Spiritual Fitness" program, paid for with DoD contracts..."


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Speculation: members of the U.S. military are being indoctrinated with religious supremacism to diminish any qualms they may have in following orders to fire upon American citizens during a marshal law takeover of the United States?

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Re: New Apostolic Reformation: Theocratic Corporate Fascism with a Cross
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2011, 08:59:54 PM »
| Dominionism is Theocratic, Dominion Theology is Totalitarian http://bit.ly/q5QoIx via @addthis
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/8/24/14574/2521/Front_Page/Dominionism_is_Theocratic_Dominion_Theology_is_Totalitarian

"...What I do not understand is why bylines articles are appearing which claim that Dominionism as a tendency is a left-wing hoax when any high school student with a library card could find both journalistic and scholarly references dating back over twenty years..."