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‘The Human Centipede II” was rejected by the BBFC on the basis that it is "sexually violent and potentially obscene". The original film was released, uncut, as an 18 last year. The follow-up has "unacceptable material" throughout which cannot be remedied with cuts, according to the BBFC. “Thank you BBFC for putting spoilers of my movie on your website and thank you for banning my film in this exceptional way. Apparently I made an horrific horror-film, but shouldn't a good horror film be horrific? My dear people it is a f****cking MOVIE. It is all fictional. Not real. It is all make-belief. It is art. Give people their own choice to watch it or not. If people can't handle or like my movies they just don't watch them. If people like my movies they have to be able to see them any time, anywhere also in the UK.” http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blog/article/199824/director-defends-sexually-violent-film.html
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 04:49:30 AM » |
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BBFC rejects Human Centipede IIhttp://www.bbfc.co.uk/newsreleases/2011/06/bbfc-rejects-the-human-centipede-ii-full-sequence/The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) is a sequel to the film The Human Centipede (First Sequence), which was classified ?18? uncut for cinema and DVD release by the BBFC in 2010. The first film dealt with a mad doctor who sews together three kidnapped people in order to produce the ?human centipede?of the title. Although the concept of the film was undoubtedly tasteless and disgusting it was a relatively traditional and conventional horror film and the Board concluded that it was not in breach of our Guidelines at ?18?. This new work, The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence), tells the story of a man who becomes sexually obsessed with a DVD recording of the first film and who imagines putting the ?centipede? idea into practice. Unlike the first film, the sequel presents graphic images of sexual violence, forced defecation, and mutilation, and the viewer is invited to witness events from the perspective of the protagonist. Whereas in the first film the ?centipede? idea is presented as a revolting medical experiment, with the focus on whether the victims will be able to escape, this sequel presents the ?centipede? idea as the object of the protagonist?s depraved sexual fantasy. The principal focus of The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) is the sexual arousal of the central character at both the idea and the spectacle of the total degradation, humiliation, mutilation, torture, and murder of his naked victims. Examples of this include a scene early in the film in which he masturbates whilst he watches a DVD of the original Human Centipede film, with sandpaper wrapped around his penis, and a sequence later in the film in which he becomes aroused at the sight of the members of the ?centipede? being forced to defecate into one another?s mouths, culminating in sight of the man wrapping barbed wire around his penis and raping the woman at the rear of the ?centipede?. There is little attempt to portray any of the victims in the film as anything other than objects to be brutalised, degraded and mutilated for the amusement and arousal of the central character, as well as for the pleasure of the audience. There is a strong focus throughout on the link between sexual arousal and sexual violence and a clear association between pain, perversity and sexual pleasure. It is the Board?s conclusion that the explicit presentation of the central character?s obsessive sexually violent fantasies is in breach of its Classification Guidelines and poses a real, as opposed to a fanciful, risk that harm is likely to be caused to potential viewers.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2011, 04:58:21 AM » |
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i think its vile and disgusting but i cant ever come down on the side of censorship. Besides, by banning it, they make it more likely to be watched.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 05:02:51 AM » |
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I don't think its a censorship issue, it's an art issue. This sequel has no artistic merit at all and therefore should be branded as pornography / obscenity.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 05:15:00 AM » |
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I don't think its a censorship issue, it's an art issue. This sequel has no artistic merit at all and therefore should be branded as pornography / obscenity.
So people shouldnt have the choice in this matter? "the most disgusting film of all time, banned by the uk" (and anyone else who bans it). They will anyway, people will still see it if they want to, its status as being 'banned' will simply make more watch it.
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 05:31:10 AM » |
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Noone is a more passionate defender of freedom of speech/expression than I am. I don't really agree with homophobes, holocaust deniers or creationists, but if their freedom of speech was ever taken away I would defend them. But a line should be drawn between art and obscenity/pornography. The film isn't 'banned', it's just unrated. Cinemas can still legally show unrated movies if their local city council gives them permission. And in this internet age it aint really a big deal that a movie can't be shown in cinemas. There's nothing stopping Tom Six from distributing it online as what it is, pornography.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 05:33:33 AM » |
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So people shouldnt have the choice in this matter?
"the most disgusting film of all time, banned by the uk" (and anyone else who bans it).
They will anyway, people will still see it if they want to, its status as being 'banned' will simply make more watch it.
Obviously the second movie was the director's intention the entire time. Just some sick freak who likes to contribute to the dehumanization of the planet. The only one promoting this obvious piece of crap (literally) torture porn flick is you. They also ban snuff films from Bohemian Grove and I do not think the general public has any desire to see them because they are banned.
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 05:45:25 AM » |
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Obviously the second movie was the director's intention the entire time. Just some sick freak who likes to contribute to the dehumanization of the planet. The only one promoting this obvious piece of crap (literally) torture porn flick is you. They also ban snuff films from Bohemian Grove and I do not think the general public has any desire to see them because they are banned.
Im discussing it with you, not 'promoting' it, im saddened you cant see the difference. i have not seen the second one, but the first was probably the most vile thing id ever seen. I have no intention of watching a sequel. If people want to watch it though, they will, some people like sick disgusting things. You two would probably be interested in this too 14-year-old actress set for nude rolehttp://uk.movies.yahoo.com/06062011/35/14-year-old-actress-set-nude-role-0.htmlBut i suppose im 'promoting' that by discussing it?
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 03:00:01 PM » |
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It sounds like torture porn so I can see why the board didn't give it a classification.
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 06:10:58 PM » |
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bollocks to censorship. but at the same time anyone who watches shite like that should be put in fema camps i saw human centipad (not a typo) which was bad enough to tell me i wont enjoy those films. especially with snacks. i know there arent many new ideas for good films but hollywood should at least look into the market of ideals and freedom or the c word. obviously in demand. last great films imo were the matrix and bourne trilogies. hows about some more of that
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2011, 03:30:50 AM » |
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It's the BBFC's job to classify movies. If they refuse to classify a movie that's fine, it's their choice and the producers can appeal if they're not happy with the decision. We can debate about whether or not unclassifed movies should be illegal, but that's got nothing to do with the BBFC's decision itself.
Complaining that the BBFC refused to classify it is silly, you might aswell be complaining that they refused to classify "Two Girls One Cup: The Movie"!
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 03:35:15 AM » |
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Obviously the second movie was the director's intention the entire time. Just some sick freak who likes to contribute to the dehumanization of the planet. Apparently he wants to make a trilogy ... f**k knows what the third one's gonna be like.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2011, 03:45:54 AM » |
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Ive not seen it, but it must be damned sick to get banned, as the shit thats peddled openly in the last 30 years has got increasingly so. Im not one for banning, because people that like to ban things find it hard to know where to stop.
Perhaps it would work better to vigorously promote the ideal that people that watch disgusting stuff must be genuinely unhinged? Try to make folk see that the poison and filth thats been injected into their minds in the disguise of "art" and "fantasy" especially over the last few decades is nothing but vile trash designed to make them scared and sub-human?
Maybe a few would reject it then, and just hard core perverts and degenerates (who have existed as a minority always) could satiate themselves with this "art" in some sordid club or whatever?
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2011, 03:51:43 AM » |
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Complaining that the BBFC refused to classify it is silly, you might aswell be complaining that they refused to classify "Two Girls One Cup: The Movie"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SsUTLAhbWE
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2011, 09:32:16 AM » |
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Human Centipede 2 : Full Sequence - Official Trailerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4s2mF3FkyoThe Human Centipede 2 ... A docudrama about what awaits in hell for Tom Six for making the first one.
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