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« on: June 04, 2011, 12:05:21 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5DCwN28y8o

http://www.centennialbulb.org/
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2011, 12:32:24 AM »

Thank you for posting!  Everyone should watch this video.  It might make them mad enough to start "fixing" instead of replacing!
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2011, 01:07:16 AM »

Gotta love a 100 year old light bulb.

With the house that my parents inherited from my grandmother there is one light bulb, in the pantry, that apparently hasn't been replaced since
the house was built in the early 60's. It definitely looks different from what we find in stores today. I only wish we had a few dozen more.

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2011, 06:20:41 AM »

its a bit hard to watch with all the and french, german and dutch speakers but it gets the point accross well enough.
happy birthday dear light bulb lol. i always try to fix my electronica and if not i may use for salvage components. iv had same cellphone nearly 5 years after replacing the keypad.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2011, 08:55:20 AM »

Question remains how many other things - including medicine and education is this being done in? It's obvious that big pharma doesn't want you to get better so you will stay on their treatments. I was surprised to find the similar type of obsolescence in education.

We really do live in the time of the lie -- the truth as become punishable by law and the lie is what you are left or forced into believing.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2011, 09:07:11 AM »

http://dotsub.com/view/aed3b8b2-1889-4df5-ae63-ad85f5572f27

The video with english subs
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 12:39:05 AM »

Good film.

The key problem with capitalism is its need for growth.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 02:05:05 AM »

Good film.

The key problem with capitalism is its need for growth.

Its not a problem of capitalism its the problem of central banking with a currency based on debt where there is always more money owed that is in circulation. Therefore obviously unsustainable constant growth is needed. You dont have to know much about banking or economy to realize that a constant growth of 2% per year will lead to desaster.

But the planned obsolesence is bad. I hope the LED bulbs wont go the same way. But its also not capitalism its psychopaths and sociopaths running the companies. If I as a moderately sane person would start a company I want my product to be the best there is and last forever. The goal would be for every person to own one and the only reason for them to get rid of it should be that a new version is so much better that they want it and not because the old one broke. Like east German machinery from the soviet aera. Yes they are heavier and noisy but that stuff will still work after the apocalypse.
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 02:45:02 AM »


Brilliant Video....

A must watch !!!
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2011, 07:48:44 AM »

Excellent...I will pass this on to my family.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2011, 08:05:52 AM »

This is what happens when you're on the elite's economic treadmill, where you have to go faster just to stand still in terms of living standards. Aka money eating the world.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2011, 12:37:23 PM »

No one watched the Video ?
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2011, 07:39:12 PM »

I watched it with subtitles and all and I found it extremely informing.  I even passed it on to my daughter. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2011, 09:04:46 PM »

Just another way they keep on raping use.

We keep on buying the stuff over and over again.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2011, 09:24:19 PM »

Good film.

The key problem with capitalism is its need for growth.

The Free market also allows people to be more inventive.  It would also depends on what business you might be in?  If you are into agriculture, I am sure it would be a booming business.  Farm equipment is always needed.  Transportation of produce is always needed.  

Going back to the days when people did less consuming were IMHO, simpler times.  We also have to remember, it is Madison Avenue, Hollywood, and government who lured many to consumerism.

So many people think a person is measured by the stuff they have.  Keeping up with the Joneses has been the mind-set since the 1950's.

I learned a long time ago, that newer doesn't necessarily mean better.

I can remember when furniture was made with pride--the craftsmanship was impeccable...today, furniture from China is particle board and glue.  I have Queen Anne furniture that has been passed down to me from family and in the family since the middle 1800's--you couldn't do that today!
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2011, 09:43:29 PM »

The Free market also allows people to be more inventive.  It would also depends on what business you might be in?  If you are into agriculture, I am sure it would be a booming business.  Farm equipment is always needed.  Transportation of produce is always needed.  

Going back to the days when people did less consuming were IMHO, simpler times.  We also have to remember, it is Madison Avenue, Hollywood, and government who lured many to consumerism.

So many people think a person is measured by the stuff they have.  Keeping up with the Joneses has been the mind-set since the 1950's.

I learned a long time ago, that newer doesn't necessarily mean better.

I can remember when furniture was made with pride--the craftsmanship was impeccable...today, furniture from China is particle board and glue.  I have Queen Anne furniture that has been passed down to me from family and in the family since the middle 1800's--you couldn't do that today!

Absolutely, and you've nailed the motivation aspect with this! Free human beings are free to cooperate and collaborate as they see fit and nobody knows the outcome of such unmolested freedom. On the other hand, the NWO has done a fine job in making us think we need the system at all. We need swat teams, we need nukes, we need state-run education and health care, we need taxation, we need the NSA, we need the United Nations, we need smoking bylaws, we need parking enforcement officers, we need fishing licenses, we need a permit to build a shed, we need to have DUI checkpoints, we need people to stop using their cars, we need people to consume fluoride, we need people to collect taxes on our behalf, we need public private partnerships.

Screw The State!
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2011, 11:06:18 PM »

You can also thank businesses like WalMarx who have all the disposable goods, much of it is made in Sweat shops and Slave labor camps.  The scouts for WalMarx also lure small businesses to come on board to sell their products in quantity, then they put the screws to them, to make them basically give away their things--in the end bankrupting them.

All hail consumerism!!  We are becoming a disposable society because of it.  Shallow and superficial people, has become American's stock and trade.  Ingenious minds are being suppressed or their ideas being stolen.  While behind the scenes the crony capitalist are laughing their sick asses off--sipping organic tea from the finest china, sitting at the best hand-made dinning table eating the best foods, organically grown, prepared by the best chefs.

It's not to late to stop this...we can simply stop buying the junk--stop patronizing WalMarx.  Tighten our belts now, before those very belts, hang us all.  Buy local, support your communities, learn how to barter!  I want off the grid!  I want to be self-reliant and self-sufficient --never paying an electric bill, never paying a water bill.  *Insert Louie Armstrong singing, "What A Wonderful World"

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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2011, 11:45:29 AM »

These examples are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to planned obsolescence; the following are a few other good sites that I have found on the subject which you might be interested in:

http://owni.eu/2011/05/09/planned-obsolescence-how-companies-encourage-hyperconsumption/
http://www.davidmcminn.com/ngc/pages/obsol.htm
http://greensteam.blogspot.com/2007/08/planned-obsolescence.html

The following provides a description of how Planned Obsolescence is used intentionally in a business plan:

http://www.helium.com/items/2100991-how-planned-obsolescence-relates-to-business-models

The following site even brags about using Planned Obsolescence in their business:

http://www.business2community.com/content-marketing/planned-obsolescence-the-key-to-content-marketing-040970

I looked these up while following up on a blog that I did on the subject a couple months back; I wrote about how sneakers fall apart after only about six months now. They used to last close to if not more than two years! After about one year we used to have to buy new shoe laces when the old ones broke not replace the whole sneaker. This means that they're using Planned Obsolescence to swindle the consumers out of about 6 billion dollars per years on sneakers alone depending on how much you pay for the sneakers. If you add the amount of extra money that we have to pay for appliances and many other things it would surly come to hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars per year. this is all happening because as I said in the blog cited complacent consumers have few if any rights.

This could change a lot if more people were inclined to save their receipts, return them when they fall apart and discuss it more with people both at home and at the department stores. They make the return department far enough way from where the majority of the customers are so that they won't hear the complaints all the time. If more people spoke up, firmly and politely, getting to the point of planned obsolescence, at the register where the crowds are that could shake up the complacency and the corporations would realize that they can't get away with it much more.

This wouldn't be enough though; we should also have election reform so that the politicians would pass more laws protecting consumers instead of the secrecy of the corporations that donate to the campaigns. This should be controlled by the public not the corporations who currently have veto power over candidates. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2011, 12:15:52 PM »

Tight money (and the debt-based nature of it) makes it more likely that these kind of practices will occur.

I suggest monetary reform may help reduce the problem:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=98465.0
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2011, 03:39:01 PM »

Tight money (and the debt-based nature of it) makes it more likely that these kind of practices will occur.

I suggest monetary reform may help reduce the problem:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=98465.0

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