"What The F Happened To Our Country While We Were Gone???" -Soldier

[ekimdrachir]

[pipeliner]

Tyranny happened.

[Geolibertarian]

Tyranny happened.

And the key reason why it happened is that most people refuse to openly reject the underlying premise on which all of this Nazi-style police state thuggery and Soviet-style surveillance is based:



"America’s fate was sealed when the public and the anti-war movement bought the government’s 9/11 conspiracy theory. The government’s account of 9/11 is contradicted by much evidence. Nevertheless, this defining event of our time, which has launched the US on interminable wars of aggression and a domestic police state, is a taboo topic for investigation in the media. It is pointless to complain of war and a police state when one accepts the premise upon which they are based."

-- Paul Craig Roberts, http://www.infowars.com/good-bye-truth-has-fallen-and-taken-liberty-with-it-2/

[Jenna_Jynx]

Is this real or fake?  Any source?  Most friends in the military I know don't go through TSA (or in Canada, it's the CATSA I believe) screening when they have their weapons.  They go through military screening and are boarded on their plane in an empty part of the airport.  The plane is also usually military, especially if they have their weapons on them. 

This seems like it was written by someone who doesn't know military procedure but wanted to get a rise out of us. 

[Jenna_Jynx]

And the planes that they board that AREN'T military planes are charter planes, but again, they don't even see CATSA.. they go through military screening before boarding. 

[Geolibertarian]

And the planes that they board that AREN'T military planes are charter planes, but again, they don't even see CATSA.. they go through military screening before boarding.

You're probably right. It's only us lowly "civilians" who get to be groped and harassed by the TSA Nazis.

But not because they're training us to be slaves to the NWO. No, no, it's merely because they wuuuv us so much and want to keep us "safe" from al-Qaeda.  

[Jenna_Jynx]

You're probably right. It's only us lowly "civilians" who get to be groped and harassed by the TSA Nazis.

As sad as that is...

[John_Back_From_The_Club_O]

... they came and took it all away.

[ekimdrachir]

It looks like it was a screenshot or made to look anonymous. Its poignant though.

[Ambriel]

I think it was fantastic.  I feel like the person who wrote the letter wanted to show the ridiculous extremes that our govt goes to to keep us fearfull and compliant.

and the futility of it all.

[chris jones]

 
 Welcome home brothers!  You guys deserved a tad of respect, not that shiite, I can bank on the fact you guys feel like your landed on another plant.
 TSA is a very controlled agency, DHS hs its fingers deep into this. They made these men perfectly aware it meant nothing to them they had been at war, in fact you will find out you meant nothing to the powers who sent you guys over. the defenders of the so called democracy.
  The average TSA is just some slob who needed a job, and like the idea of getting a badge. The rats who run the show, they are not slobls attemtping to survive, they are soiopathic controll artists. Napoliotano, NAPY, get a read on her, she is without a doubt a sold out, powermongerg, sadistic bag of shiit.
  Just wiat till you take your family to an airport and they grab you sons arsse, or pat down your mother and your granny.  the deal is , CONTROLL, ABSOLUTE. The divisions will become very clear to retuning vets. Let your anger out guys, it is your savior, I'm a Nam vet, and found that bringing the truth to the people, pissing on the WH wall, tossing my medals awayy,and calling out the shitbg criminals was  a big help, for many of us. Unite bro's.
 
 

[Jenna_Jynx]

I feel like the person who wrote the letter wanted to show the ridiculous extremes that our govt goes to to keep us fearfull and compliant.

What if I told you I wrote the letter?  And the letter was based on absolutely no proof? 

To bring you back to reality, soldiers with their weapons do not go through the TSA.. especially when it's a flight for soldiers.  They go through military screening. 

Who ever wrote this mind as well wrote that "they took my rifle too" (which a soldier has the right to kill for), and they tazed me when I tried to stop them".... this story has fake written all over it.  Lets stop propping it..

[Ambriel]

Again you miss the point.  what I took from it is the fact that the more ridiculous it sounds the more truthful it probably is.  I can see the TSA fear mongering control freaks doing something like this.

It is the sad state in which we live.
We live in a world where you cannot go anywhere without being molested and made to submit at the handlers.  think about it my friend.

[Jenna_Jynx]

Again you miss the point.  what I took from it is the fact that the more ridiculous it sounds the more truthful it probably is.

And you missed my point.  No armed soldiers go through the TSA.. simple as that.  This story is obviously fake.

The TSA is reserved for the sheep...

[chris jones]

Hi Jena, I gave this a look, and came up up with few items, I'be been out the military for a while bu its obvious times have changed. I do know civilian aircraft are used by the military, presonell transports.
 Giving it a second look, the article seems strange, but  then again what the hell isn't these days.


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[Jenna_Jynx]

I do know civilian aircraft are used by the military, presonell transports.
 Giving it a second look, the article seems strange, but  then again what the hell isn't these days.

Yup, I ran this thread passed my friend who is in the canadian army.  He said that when the army takes civilian flights, they are charter flights, and not mixed in with civilians (especially not when they have their weapons).  He also confirmed all screening is done by military police (MPs) prior to boarding. 

He also made an interesting comment.  Every soldier is issued a multi-tool (Gerber)... which they are allowed to keep on them at all times.  Had the TSA screened this soldier, he would have confiscated it, and confiscated EVERY soldiers gerber. 

This whole thing makes no sense.. and there is no official source, so my BS meter is going off.. forgive me   

[The Way of Things]

Generally speaking, soldiers will undergo a screening process at their post while a chartered civilian jet is waiting at the airfield on post.  Usually it's World Airways, but sometimes other carriers.  As an example: At Ft. Bliss, TX, the chartered flights land at Biggs Airfield (part of Ft. Bliss).  Gear that is to be stowed is tossed onto a truck and driven to the airfield where it is subsequently screened/inspected by MPs and dogs.  Units take a bus to the airfield terminal preceding departure.  Carry-on bags are inspected en masse by MPs and dogs.  Soldiers board the chartered Jet with their carry-on items and their weapons (sans rounds). The chartered jet will fly from Ft. Bliss to Bangor, Maine and will land at the Bangor Airport.  Soldiers will leave weapons on the plane and enter the terminal.  A weapons gaurd will remain on the plane to gaurd weapons during refueling/restocking/crew change. Upon entering the terminal, soldiers are given a colored ticket that they must then hand in before leaving the terminal and reboarding the plane. Soldiers do not undergo any type of screening upon entering the terminal at Bangor or upon exiting the terminal for reboarding. While in the terminal (usually for about an hour), time is spent eating, using the phone, etc.  After handing in the ticket (basically for head-count purposes), soldier reboard the flight. The flight will then usually fly to Leipzig, Germany.  Upon arrival at Leipzig airport, the process is similar to the process in Bangor. Deboard the plane, take a small bus to a special holding area for military, get a red ticket, enter the holding area, get food, buy cool German stuff, use the phone, use the restroom, and after about 60-90 minutes, turn in the ticket and reboard the plane.  Again, weapons stay on the plane under gaurd.  The flight will then proceed to Kuwait City and will land at the international airport. Upon arrival at the airport, soldiers will deboard the flight with weapons and bags and will proceed to a small out-door holding area for a short time.  Eventually, a group of locally chartered buses driven by local contracted drivers will arrive. Soldiers will board the buses, and will leave the airport with a combined escort of MPs and Kuwaiti police/army personnel. The buses travel to one of several American military bases in Kuwait (usually Camp Beuhring). Soldiers will spend 1-2 weeks there for various administrative and adjunct training directives.  Eventually, soldiers will leave the camp by bus and will arrive at another base/airbase (Ali Al-Salim) in Kuwait.  This base serves as the main terminal for the departure of military flights from Kuwait to either Iraq or Afghanistan. Soldiers may stay at Al-Salim for just a few hours or a few days.  At Al-Salim, they will board a military transport (usually C-130 or C-17), packed like sardines along with pallets of the equipment that was stowed on the civilian charter flight. The flight will then proceed toa final destination in Iraq (such as the Baghdad International Airport) or Afghanistan. Depending on where their unit is going to be, soldiers may take a follow-on flight to another airbase somewhere else more remote (via chinook or whatever).
When the time comes for mid-tour leave, the process is nearly in reverse.  Soldiers will fly from wherever they are to, for example, Baghdad International Airport.  They will then wait a few hours or days for a flight out going to that airbase in Kuwait.  After arriving at that base, and maybe waiting for a few hours or days, soldiers will go through a customs process.  This process is executed by US Navy Customs, and is a multi-stage screening process very similar to the process that civilians undergo back in the states.  Multiple bag-screenings, dumping all of your gear out, having customs personnel check every single item, metal dectors (wanding), etc. Gerbers will be confiscated.  Customs declarations must be made and submitted, with appropriate customs forms being filled out. Soldiers will then eventually board a military transport bound for Kuwait City.  Upon landing at Kuwait international, soldiers will board an international chartered civilian jet (again, usually World Airways, but may be other carriers).  The soldiers will have carry-on baggage,  and body odor.  The flights will then usually head to Leipzig, but possibly Ireland (Shannon) or elsewhere. At these airports, the deboarding/reboarding process is the same as it was ont he way over. Flights will then proceed either Atlanta or Dallas/Ft. Worth.  Soldiers will enter the airport, go through customs/security, get screed, and then line up to have their leave-forms stamped by a leave authority (LNO).  Soldiers will then catch a follow-on flight to wherever in the US they are going for mid-tour leave.  When leave is over, they will reverse that process, and they will take a flight that eventually gets them to Atlanta or Dallas.  They will go to Leipzig again.  They will get to Kuwait again, go to a base in Kuwait, wait a bit more, and eventually catch a military transport to Iraq or Afghanistan, and pick up the weapon that they left behind before they leaft for leave.
When tours are over, the process is much like leaving for mid-tour leave.  heavy customs inspections.  Chartered flight from Kuwait Cuity to Leipzig, Leipzig to Bangor, Bangor to wherever.  At times, things can get silly.  When the Iceland volcano was erupting, some soldiers had flights that went straight from Kuwait to Minnesota or elsewhere.  not fun flights, for sure.  Anyhow, flights will eventually terminate at the home post.
This is a generalization of flight and screening procedures, including weapon status, for soldiers that leave the US for combat theaters, and their return home as well.  You may decide for yourselves whether or not the original expose in this thread agrees with this.  I hope this helps. 

[Satyagraha]

To the soldier who wrote "what the f**k happened to our country while we were gone?"

"Gone" where? Where were you?

Were you guarding the poppy fields, guarding the oil fields, working guard duty at one of the military prisons holding innocent Afghans, Iraqis - perhaps observed torture sessions? Did you watch them bring children in to be tortured in front of their parents? Did you say nothing as Afghan women, or Iraqi women were sexually abused? Did you remain silent as you saw the real nature of the illegal wars? Did you keep quiet because you saw what happened to Pat Tillman?

But now you're outraged about the TSA in airports?
About nail clippers?

Where were you?

[The Way of Things]

To the soldier who wrote "what the f**k happened to our country while we were gone?"

"Gone" where? Where were you?

Were you guarding the poppy fields, guarding the oil fields, working guard duty at one of the military prisons holding innocent Afghans, Iraqis - perhaps observed torture sessions? Did you watch them bring children in to be tortured in front of their parents? Did you say nothing as Afghan women, or Iraqi women were sexually abused? Did you remain silent as you saw the real nature of the illegal wars? Did you keep quiet because you saw what happened to Pat Tillman?

But now you're outraged about the TSA in airports?
About nail clippers?

Where were you?

Firstly, I wouldn't quite say that they are "outraged" about nail clippers.  The original piece quoted in this thread seems to be commentary regarding the nature of changes that have occurred back home, any irony in those changes, and how, for some soldiers who are gone for long periods of time, it all kind of sneaks up on them. Who's to say that some of the same soldiers are not also "outraged", as you put it, at many other things? That certainly is not what the original piece, be it fictional or not, is implying.

[pac522]

http://www.infowars.com/welcome-home-boys-tsa-interrogates-our-soldiers/

[ekimdrachir]

Thanks WayOfThings I appreciate your post

[Satyagraha]

Firstly, I wouldn't quite say that they are "outraged" about nail clippers.  The original piece quoted in this thread seems to be commentary regarding the nature of changes that have occurred back home, any irony in those changes, and how, for some soldiers who are gone for long periods of time, it all kind of sneaks up on them. Who's to say that some of the same soldiers are not also "outraged", as you put it, at many other things? That certainly is not what the original piece, be it fictional or not, is implying.

You do see the irony of this right?

That soldiers home from their involvement in illegal wars would even question "what happened to our country while we were gone" is the ultimate irony.