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« on: May 21, 2011, 12:35:00 PM »

TSA to oversee searches at Santa Fe prom

Saturday night, a certified TSA official will be at the Santa Fe High School prom to oversee student searches.

This all comes after two Capital High School students, sisters, filed a lawsuit saying they were groped by a security agent at Capital High School's prom last month. On Friday, the court ordered Santa Fe Public Schools and the security company ASI to provide at least one TSA certified person at the Santa Fe High School prom and the Capital High School graduation.

The restraining order also spells out the specific ways security can perform searches. It says a pat-down is only to be used if there are reasonable grounds and that pat-downs should not be used as a first approach for every student.

KOB Eyewitness News 4 talked to one of the sisters suing the district earlier this week. Candice Herrera said, "She grabbed my breast and shook the inner part of my bra and shook it and then picked up the front of my dress to mid thigh and she was patting down my bare legs."

Capital's Principal told us she was standing right there when students were searched and doesn't remember any students complaining about the pat downs.

Meanwhile, Santa Fe Public Schools says it's happy to comply with the Federal Court's decision, saying, student safety is a priority.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2122102.shtml?cat=504
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2011, 12:44:37 PM »

Welkome to Amerika. The NEW Nazi Germany.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2011, 04:21:48 PM »

TSA to oversee searches at Santa Fe prom

http://santafe.kob.com/news/schools/tsa-oversee-searches-santa-fe-prom/80009
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2011, 05:58:13 PM »

              Hi menace, yes, its all about controll, obey, submit..
               The youth are one of the prime targets, this being  example.
                 Under the guize of protectoinism is the reality of domination.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2011, 07:26:12 PM »

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?






"[I ]f all of the leaders of the Third Reich had been sadistic monsters and maniacs then these events would have no more moral significance than an earthquake, or any other natural catastrophe. But this trial has shown that under a national crisis ordinary, even able and extraordinary men can delude themselves into the commission of crimes so vast and heinous that they beggar the imagination. No one who has sat through the trial can ever forget them. Men sterilized because of political belief. A mockery made of friendship and faith. The murder of children. How easily it can happen. There are those in our own country, too who today speak of the protection of country of survival. A decision must be made in the life of every nation at the very moment when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat. Then it seems that the only way to survive is to use the means of the enemy to rest survival upon what is expedient, to look the other way. The answer to that is: Survival as what? A country isn't a rock. It's not an extension of one's self. It's what it stands for. It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult. Before the people of the world let it now be noted that here in our decision, this is what we stand for:
Justice, truth and the value of a single human being."


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Here it is, summing it up. This is what all this is meant lead your mind to: coming to their conclusion.

             "The common enemy of humanity is man."
 
Alan:  Here's a beautiful psychopathic ability to double-think.

"The common enemy of humanity is man."

Alan:  This is the new enemy, you see, we always need enemies to come together to fight, to work, to strive towards, and to be taxed silly.

             "…in searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea…"

Alan:  I'll read that again.

"…in searching…"

Alan:  “In searching,” not in finding.

             "…in searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill."

Alan:  Now for the hard of thinking, I'll repeat that part.

"…in searching for a new enemy to unite us, we…"

Alan:  We--

"…we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill."

Alan:  That should be chiseled in your stone or painted on your living room walls; you could read it everyday, because if you forget this, you'll fall for everything else that just comes your way in your lifetime.

To continue:

             "In their totality and in their interactions, these phenomena do constitute a common threat which demands solidarity."

Alan:  Their goal is solidarity, like a religious movement.

"…of all peoples, but in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap about which we have already warned, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome."

Alan:  Behavior changes, behavior modification, you see.

Then they sum it up:

             "The real enemy…"

Alan:  --Which they have chosen, remember, to make you believe in.

             "The real enemy then is humanity itself."


This is a summary of a religion that's been indoctrinated and has been over the years, many years, which will bring in their new idealized society; but we have to believe in it, like a religion, to make it happen. And you think that your governments are making all these decisions for you.

Since the 1960’s, massive funding went into preaching the new environmentalism, the Gaia [or Gaea] worship, the overpopulation, “the sky is falling” attitudes that we've been brought along with.  Now you do have a generation that's grown up hearing nothing but this, who believe it's all true. Their reality is induced through propaganda and indoctrination, and reinforced by further propaganda, ongoing propaganda. A term they used in circles at the top, back in the 1940’s and '30’s even, they called it "continuing education."  That was their couching term for it, which would confuse Joe Average, but it literally meant: beginning with early childhood indoctrination at school and furthered down through time with newspapers, magazines, the radio and eventually television, to reinforce their original lies, until Joe Average and Jane Average think it’s all real and they behave accordingly.  

It’s no different than the way religion was used before that, where you'd run through the forest, terrified of all the demons behind every tree; and shadows, as the sun would move and cast the shadows; and it would get dark and you'd run into that big church, where it’s full of light and God was there to dispel all the darkness. It made you feel better and safe, and you clung to the holy men because they could save you.

Any reality can be induced, given time, reinforcement and promulgated from the top down, as the ancients talked about in Greece, when they discussed this many times in the writings of various philosophers. How many generations have lived, died, fought in wars, had moments of pleasure and masses of misery, never knowing that their reality and their belief system (and everything else) was given by a small dominant minority with the history of the ages and the sciences therein? Nothing has changed.

Eventually, you will see children who will volunteer for sterilization, thinking they're doing the world a great deed (or if they're singled out), because they will be told; and this is coming. It's been discussed, written about and published that they have defective genes. They might even have an allergy, “oh, my,” and they shouldn't really put that on to another generation of inflicting misery. You'll see the first generation being "enhanced," as they call it. That's was put forth to the public, through fiction again; the Star Trek series and the eventual space station series (I don’t know what they called it).  "Genetic enhancement,” see the movie, "Gattaca," good predictive programming.  

However, they will volunteer for sterilization, and probably get some social benefits if they go ahead and do this. Ultimately, of course, they won't need humans to breed, at the low levels. They've discussed this and published it too.  Charles Galton Darwin talked about the elite not altering themselves or altering their brains, because they must retain survival capabilities and instincts, since they will be steering the ship of Earth. Whereas Koestler, by the way, for all his so called leading of the left-wing worked for MI6 (declassified now). He said "the masses of people won't need their survival capabilities because the state will be making their decisions for them."

Therefore, we're going through just one part of an ongoing process.  It was ongoing and planned for your parents, grandparents and back through time. Masses of people have lived and died, never knowing reality; and that's what we're up against—those who steal our ability to be sentient. They decide what we will be, by giving us a scripted version of reality.  They often, in their arrogance, do come out with statements, psychopathically, because they are psychopaths, you see. Psychopaths have tremendous ego. They love to say, "Well, we really told you. It's just that you didn't listen," and they do tell us, and they chuckle that we don't get it because we cannot imagine people being so evil as to do what they do. That's why they get away with it. They're helped by myriads of bureaucrats, who, once again are conditioned in their little tunnel and they can't think outside of it either.  They will rationalize what they do, no matter what it is and no matter who suffers.

Get the book. Read through it, and you certainly will learn, by their own admissions that: the reality that you've had, and the one they're going to give you, was designed by them.

From Hamish and myself, it's good night, and may your god or your gods go with you.


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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2011, 07:44:00 PM »

Who wouldn't want to work for the TSA now! Get to fondle all airline passengers, and now the high school hotties! Its a dream job I tell ya. The best thing about 17 year olds? I get older but they always stay the same age! (Just kidding Molestation is no laughing matter)
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2011, 08:37:29 PM »

Who wouldn't want to work for the TSA now!

starting salary $27,000 to $42,000 depending on experience.  I did not inquire about what kind of experience.  With job market like it is, I imagine long lines to get those jobs.  I bet tptb know that



 http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=United_States_Transportation_Security_Administration_%28TSA%29/Hourly_Rate
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2011, 10:27:34 PM »

Meanwhile, Santa Fe Public Schools says it's happy to comply with the Federal Court's decision, saying, student safety is a priority.

These are the people shaping the minds of the kids.
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2011, 03:41:25 AM »

TSA to oversee searches at Santa Fe prom

Saturday night, a certified TSA official will be at the Santa Fe High School prom to oversee student searches.

This all comes after two Capital High School students, sisters, filed a lawsuit saying they were groped by a security agent at Capital High School's prom last month. On Friday, the court ordered Santa Fe Public Schools and the security company ASI to provide at least one TSA certified person at the Santa Fe High School prom and the Capital High School graduation.

The restraining order also spells out the specific ways security can perform searches. It says a pat-down is only to be used if there are reasonable grounds and that pat-downs should not be used as a first approach for every student.

KOB Eyewitness News 4 talked to one of the sisters suing the district earlier this week. Candice Herrera said, "She grabbed my breast and shook the inner part of my bra and shook it and then picked up the front of my dress to mid thigh and she was patting down my bare legs."

Capital's Principal told us she was standing right there when students were searched and doesn't remember any students complaining about the pat downs.

Meanwhile, Santa Fe Public Schools says it's happy to comply with the Federal Court's decision, saying, student safety is a priority.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2122102.shtml?cat=504

Ha! They complain about getting groped so the court sends in the TSA. This court decision sets a dangerous precedent, and we all knew something like this was coming. Today, it's one person overseeing security at a high school prom, tomorrow, it's airport security with body scanners and groping at the entrance to the schools (and shopping centers, supermarkets, etc.). Plus starting with kids to condition them for being used to it when they are adults - pretty sickening.
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2011, 09:39:08 AM »

Who wouldn't want to work for the TSA now!

starting salary $27,000 to $42,000 depending on experience.  I did not inquire about what kind of experience.  With job market like it is, I imagine long lines to get those jobs.  I bet tptb know thathttp://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=United_States_Transportation_Security_Administration_%28TSA%29/Hourly_Rate
Dec. The TSA had advertized for help on Pizza take out boxes. Gives us a hint at to their chooses.
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2011, 10:18:30 AM »

TSA, DHS, FBI, DIA, DEA, Justice Dept, the Czars, office of the President. "God & Government"
  NWO, a religion. What is religion, ones belief, faith, sure there more but I don't want to rant, but I have to..Blind patriotism, unquestioned faith and beleif in ones government.
I was raised in a  right wing home, my dad was ex military.I fired a rifle accuretly before I finished the first grade, knew how to stand at attention and obey orders, white glove inspections etc..  A typical day contained the following statements.
Our country Love it or leave it.Our contry right or wrong. A good commie is a dead commie. Kill their kids before they grow up to be communists. Wars a  tool of depopulation, and we gotta keep the number down................For God and country.
 Despite the daily brainwashing I was questioning the humanity of these ideal. I was having coffe wth my brother-Green Beret, and father. I found the courage to mention the civilans casualtys in Vietnam, SO WHAT was the response. I asked my bro if ordered would he kill civys, OF COURSR I follow orders. I then asked if we disquised gas chambers as showers for the civilian population would he line the people up and send them in.  Of course, if ordered to, with all the courage I could muster I said , but the Nazi did that didn’t they. Both of them beat the table causing the cups to go flying, their yelling was heard throughout the neighborhood, their veins  in the necks seem to bulge out.
  My  point , it is an objective of the NOW groupies to recreate this mind set.  A woman told me  if the TSA told her to to strip of naked in the airport lobby , she would do it proudly for her country..(she was a mother in her fiftys). 
The TSA is high prolife control unit, the intent to be accepted as part of daily life, our protection,  this will expand into the depths of local and state law enforcement.
PS. Their brainwashing didn’t work on me, I found out that I have a SOUL,& that my mind is not owned. Did I hit on a point, I hope so, I question myself lately.

   
   
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2011, 11:15:08 AM »

Dec. The TSA had advertized for help on Pizza take out boxes. Gives us a hint at to their chooses.


Well I should kick my own ass to even think they would be searching for decent folk to work for em.  Thanks for pointing this out to me. 

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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2011, 11:54:52 AM »

Chris I can tell you are a smart guy. There is hope for you.
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2011, 12:13:00 PM »

Santa Fe?

Yeah, it figures.

leave it to the over-valued ultra left community to embrace this.  Don't bother to tell these freaks that George Bush would have loved to have been in office while this is going on.

Dumb asses.
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2011, 01:45:33 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMApOe5MXBA&feature=player_embedded
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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2011, 08:16:28 PM »

Heres a video about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lju0cg6Z9cc
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2011, 09:33:07 AM »

TSA, for all your Molestation Needs.
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I'll keep saying it until the day I die: the solution is to eliminate all government involvement in "security" and let the free market figure it out. State sponsored corruption can't exist in such an environment. Freedom works!
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I'll keep saying it until the day I die: the solution is to eliminate all government involvement in "security" and let the free market figure it out. State sponsored corruption can't exist in such an environment. Freedom works!

Absolutely!!  If you do not like something you vote with your wallet in a 'truly' free market!
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Absolutely!!  If you do not like something you vote with your wallet in a 'truly' free market!

Yes, always vote with your wallet! Do you support this or not?
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2011, 02:38:59 PM »

I'll keep saying it until the day I die: the solution is to eliminate all government involvement in "security" and let the free market figure it out. State sponsored corruption can't exist in such an environment. Freedom works!

Absolutely!!  If you do not like something you vote with your wallet in a 'truly' free market!

Yes, always vote with your wallet! Do you support this or not?

That is a good suggestion, but it has very little to do with these heinous crimes against humanity which has already been funded by an incestuous group of psychopathic control freaks. When they can steal $30 Trillion with little repercussion, the free market has been eliminated. The only funding now is going to a cybernetic autonomous assassination grid and the rape scanners are a big part of it. Just not using air travel, although a noble effort, is not enough. Continue to educate everyone you know about the overtly obvious treason in subjecting our entire population to sexual abuse including infants, children, the handicapped, and the elderly.
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That is a good suggestion, but it has very little to do with these heinous crimes against humanity which has already been funded by an incestuous group of psychopathic control freaks. When they can steal $30 Trillion with little repercussion, the free market has been eliminated. The only funding now is going to a cybernetic autonomous assassination grid and the rape scanners are a big part of it. Just not using air travel, although a noble effort, is not enough. Continue to educate everyone you know about the overtly obvious treason in subjecting our entire population to sexual abuse including infants, children, the handicapped, and the elderly.

My take on it is that the NWO is enabled, protected and sheltered by the government -- therefore government is the root of the problem.

City Hall > Regional Government > State/Provincial Government > Federal Government > U.N./IMF/Interpol/Noarad/NATO/World Bank > Multinational Trading Blocks & Zones.

The IMF only exists, for example, because of "lower government" pen strokes, so if you want to end the IMF, its legitimacy technically must be authorized by various normal government bodies - fed, state and local - which are really the only morally legitimate forms of government. So if you restrict the mandate and funding of local, state and federal governments to core responsibilities, then there is simply no money for global dirty deeds.

Ron Paul simplifies it by insisting we only need to obey the Constitution.

Strike the root and the tree of corruption will whither away.
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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2011, 05:24:33 PM »

My take on it is that the NWO is enabled, protected and sheltered by the government -- therefore government is the root of the problem.

In order to validate any of that, one must definte government. Later on you talk about the constitutional government. That government is the only thing protecting millions from the East India Trading Company's desire to just plow through the human fields as they did in Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, and Mao's China (almost exclusively finded and supported by the Committee of 300 families who are the airs to the East India wealth and power). The founding fathers knew exactly what government should be and shouldn't be. The state governments and the federal agent set up to act on behalf of the states is in place to protect the individual inalienable rights and provide for a common defense. Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine were at first swayed by the zeal of anarchy, but after they saw how the illuminati causes more bloodshed with anarchy than with government actions in the false French Revolution they saw the sanity in a constitutional republic. This legitimate government has been hijacked for the purpose of fostering "Smart Mobs" of anarchy, and a new civil war as was done by the British Empire to manufacture the US Civil War.

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The IMF only exists, for example, because of "lower government" pen strokes, so if you want to end the IMF, its legitimacy technically must be authorized by various normal government bodies - fed, state and local - which are really the only morally legitimate forms of government. So if you restrict the mandate and funding of local, state and federal governments to core responsibilities, then there is simply no money for global dirty deeds.

Ron Paul simplifies it by insisting we only need to obey the Constitution.

Strike the root and the tree of corruption will whither away.

Yes, and the root of the problem lies in the moving away from the US Constitution. When we get back to the constitution and the individual rights of man, then we are striking at the belly of the beast. But these are philosophical discussions concerning various methods to deal with symptoms. The disease within this thread is the dehumanization of the population by an illegal quasi-federal agency.  The raping of children at airports by TSA treason patrols is absolutely insane with or without "government" and with or without "funding".
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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2011, 05:30:41 PM »

I noticed the title of this thread includes "TSA enjoys raping babies so much..." -- why is this there?

Is there actually proof that the TSA has raped a baby??

I'm not trying to downplay the TSA's horrific role in our mind control society today, where we've been submitted to disgusting treatments in the airports and abroad, but isn't this sensationalized a bit?
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In order to validate any of that, one must definte government. Later on you talk about the constitutional government. That government is the only thing protecting millions from the East India Trading Company's desire to just plow through the human fields as they did in Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, and Mao's China (almost exclusively finded and supported by the Committee of 300 families who are the airs to the East India wealth and power). The founding fathers knew exactly what government should be and shouldn't be. The state governments and the federal agent set up to act on behalf of the states is in place to protect the individual inalienable rights and provide for a common defense. Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine were at first swayed by the zeal of anarchy, but after they saw how the illuminati causes more bloodshed with anarchy than with government actions in the false French Revolution they saw the sanity in a constitutional republic. This legitimate government has been hijacked for the purpose of fostering "Smart Mobs" of anarchy, and a new civil war as was done by the British Empire to manufacture the US Civil War.

Yes, and the root of the problem lies in the moving away from the US Constitution. When we get back to the constitution and the individual rights of man, then we are striking at the belly of the beast. But these are philosophical discussions concerning various methods to deal with symptoms. The disease within this thread is the dehumanization of the population by an illegal quasi-federal agency.  The raping of children at airports by TSA treason patrols is absolutely insane with or without "government" and with or without "funding".

I think we're pretty much on the same page.

I have always freely admitted that I am seduced by the idea of anarchism -- because all government is an incubator of corruption -- but that the principles expressed in the Declaration of Independence and the resulting American Constitution created the greatest compromise ever established among statists and non-statists. Government IS the problem, therefore it must always be as small as humanly possible, and the "idea of America" nailed that concept. I respect, accept and demand it.

Eternal vigilance is difficult in the best of times, but like you said at the beginning of your post, you have to first define government - and that is increasingly difficult with the merging of governments and big business. There would be no opportunity for that too occur with a government that had a miniscule number of specific responsibilities. Such a government would be small, boring and naturally transparent -- making eternal vigilance easy.
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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2011, 06:08:39 PM »

I noticed the title of this thread includes "TSA enjoys raping babies so much..." -- why is this there?

Is there actually proof that the TSA has raped a baby??

I'm not trying to downplay the TSA's horrific role in our mind control society today, where we've been submitted to disgusting treatments in the airports and abroad, but isn't this sensationalized a bit?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42978267/ns/travel-news/t/baby-receives-pat-down-kansas-city-airport/
http://blog.tsa.gov/2011/05/tsa-searching-for-poop-bombs-headline.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWW471vulOY
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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2011, 06:23:00 PM »

I think we're pretty much on the same page.

I have always freely admitted that I am seduced by the idea of anarchism -- because all government is an incubator of corruption -- but that the principles expressed in the Declaration of Independence and the resulting American Constitution created the greatest compromise ever established among statists and non-statists. Government IS the problem, therefore it must always be as small as humanly possible, and the "idea of America" nailed that concept. I respect, accept and demand it.

But that is simply not true. Encroachments to unalienable civil liberties is the problem. Refusing the rights of man is the problem. With government or without it, that is the problem. The states grouped together to defend the rights of man and provide a common defense and that is what the constitution is all about. The founding fathers knew that if the states' agent (now referred to as the federal government) acted outside of the constitutional limitations then it would corrupt this country into the same hands of the global elite. This is why all of their RAND civil war scenarios fail...WE LOVE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT and we are exposing legitimate national security threats to our legitimate constitutional government. The Bilderberg psychos and the committee of 300 psychos are the bona fide anti-government radical fundamentalist terrorists who our constitutional republic has been set up to defend us from.

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Eternal vigilance is difficult in the best of times, but like you said at the beginning of your post, you have to first define government - and that is increasingly difficult with the merging of governments and big business. There would be no opportunity for that too occur with a government that had a miniscule number of specific responsibilities. Such a government would be small, boring and naturally transparent -- making eternal vigilance easy.

Another issue is the definition of "Big Business". There is only one corporation, the East India Trading Company. All other corporate charters are simply extentions of that one, they are all subsidiaries. They are illegal and anti-constitutional. There is no such thing as monopoly control over all commerce in the constitution, it is an absolutely insane idea in the first place. It is exactly what socialism/communism is...one corporation which we all work for and attain everything from...that is communism. The idea of communism is simply a trap set up by the East India Trading Company as a way to legitimize the monopoly power of a foreign global cabal.  The "foreign advisors" come in to say who gets what and what they pay (through labor or whatever). It is a monopoly, plain and simple. There is little difference between communism and monopoly controlled society except maybe in the propaganda...one makes you think you are in control and the other makes you think it is better to not be in control. This is how the communist revolutions swept half the globe, they were an East India Trading Company operation. And the new one is the "Arab Spring" which is another cultural revolution to shift more power to the globalists and remove all cultural identity from the Arab nations. The G8 just dedicated $40 Billion to support the destabilization efforts of over 10 sovereign nations. They are not even trying to hide it anymore like they did with communism, this "Arab Spring" operation is 100% controlled by Bilderberg elites who are only loaning money so they can steal all water rights of these countries forever.
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Yes, I'm aware of this. I'm well learned in this subject area. Again, I'm just stating that this headline is a bit sensationalized because no baby was literally raped by the TSA. Rumors and hearsay need to be avoided like the plague in the dis-information age, so truth can stand alone as champion. Thanks for the reply though.
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« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2011, 07:13:21 PM »

But that is simply not true. Encroachments to unalienable civil liberties is the problem. Refusing the rights of man is the problem. With government or without it, that is the problem. The states grouped together to defend the rights of man and provide a common defense and that is what the constitution is all about. The founding fathers knew that if the states' agent (now referred to as the federal government) acted outside of the constitutional limitations then it would corrupt this country into the same hands of the global elite. This is why all of their RAND civil war scenarios fail...WE LOVE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT and we are exposing legitimate national security threats to our legitimate constitutional government. The Bilderberg psychos and the committee of 300 psychos are the bona fide anti-government radical fundamentalist terrorists who our constitutional republic has been set up to defend us from.

Another issue is the definition of "Big Business". There is only one corporation, the East India Trading Company. All other corporate charters are simply extentions of that one, they are all subsidiaries. They are illegal and anti-constitutional. There is no such thing as monopoly control over all commerce in the constitution, it is an absolutely insane idea in the first place. It is exactly what socialism/communism is...one corporation which we all work for and attain everything from...that is communism. The idea of communism is simply a trap set up by the East India Trading Company as a way to legitimize the monopoly power of a foreign global cabal.  The "foreign advisors" come in to say who gets what and what they pay (through labor or whatever). It is a monopoly, plain and simple. There is little difference between communism and monopoly controlled society except maybe in the propaganda...one makes you think you are in control and the other makes you think it is better to not be in control. This is how the communist revolutions swept half the globe, they were an East India Trading Company operation. And the new one is the "Arab Spring" which is another cultural revolution to shift more power to the globalists and remove all cultural identity from the Arab nations. The G8 just dedicated $40 Billion to support the destabilization efforts of over 10 sovereign nations. They are not even trying to hide it anymore like they did with communism, this "Arab Spring" operation is 100% controlled by Bilderberg elites who are only loaning money so they can steal all water rights of these countries forever.

I will have to re-read this tomorrow with a fresh brain because I do not see what it is that you say is "simply not true". Nevertheless, I appreciate your insight Dig.
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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2011, 07:54:40 PM »

I will have to re-read this tomorrow with a fresh brain because I do not see what it is that you say is "simply not true". Nevertheless, I appreciate your insight Dig.

I apologize, I should have highlighted what I was referring to. It was the statement: "Government IS the problem"
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« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2011, 07:58:19 PM »

Yes, I'm aware of this. I'm well learned in this subject area. Again, I'm just stating that this headline is a bit sensationalized because no baby was literally raped by the TSA. Rumors and hearsay need to be avoided like the plague in the dis-information age, so truth can stand alone as champion. Thanks for the reply though.

changed raping to molesting.
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« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2011, 08:02:37 PM »

changed raping to molesting.
That's truthful! Thanks for considering my comment and changing the title.
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« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2011, 09:03:25 PM »

I apologize, I should have highlighted what I was referring to. It was the statement: "Government IS the problem"

Fair enough: let me rephrase it.

Big government IS the problem.
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« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2011, 09:36:25 PM »

That's truthful! Thanks for considering my comment and changing the title.

no worries, thanks for the constructive criticism
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