Ron Paul and his hand sign " I Love You "

[scottcowie]

My evidence is that Ron Paul is a long time long term member of congress. Since Congress is absolutely corrupt according to Alex Jones and the majority of posters on this site then the premise that Ron Paul is honest and decent ( regardless of what he says or how he votes ) is an outrageous statement and demands proof.

You state that SOMEONE in Congress can be trusted, I say balderdash and provide evidence to the contrary, you sip more coolaid and use the ad hominem. yawn.

 From Hume's "An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding" as quoted by Michael Shermer in "Why People Believe Weird Things" pg 45-46.

 "That no testimony is sufficient to establish a miracle, unless the testimony be of such a kind, that its falsehood would be more miraculous than the fact which it endeavors to establish."

So whatever, follow Dr. No who is a marginalized congressman who is done finished, not in power.

Don't think for yourself.

[scottcowie]

Not exactly proof, but here are some fun pics:

You saying he's working with this guy !!!!







heres some more fun pics

[Dig]

You saying he's working with this guy !!!!







heres some more fun pics

Yeah, but Ron Paul is not a total f**king dick like Simon Cowell. Judging by their fruits, I would say Simon Cowell is a fricking demon. And those were poses for a magazine cover? And he was riding some motor vehicle with a freemason (actually 3) logo on it?

But I agree the title should be changed, he is a confirmed dick and freemason, but as far as degree, maybe he will proudly let people know one day.

[BlueBaron]

You saying he's working with this guy !!!!







heres some more fun pics

When the truth is to close to home, people just don't talk about it, or bury their head it the sand.

He's a politician, he's more than likely is a Mason.

But some people like to play a game called, "If Ron Paul was President".

Well if Ron Paul was President, some people here would be like the Obama supporters today, blinded and in for the whole roller coaster ride, even if it comes off the rails.

[Dig]

When the truth is to close to home, people just don't talk about it, or bury their head it the sand.

He's a politician, he's more than likely is a Mason.

But some people like to play a game called, "If Ron Paul was President".

Well if Ron Paul was President, some people here would be like the Obama supporters today, blinded and in for the whole roller coaster ride, even if it comes off the rails.

Yeah thanks for exposing him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are now awake to this monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You found the truth!!!!!!!!

He also acts just like Obama, lying about every single thing (even though his voting record is 100% in line with everything he says and he has said the same thing for 25 years).

He is also just like Simon Cowell how he mocks people because of their looks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88REf0tjZHo

[BlueBaron]

This is totally out of order, you take these posts out of another post, that went all over the place, and cut these posts out, as if they are separate. Making them another post. Proper New World Order censorship of the highest order.

Total disgusted, but we should look at the positive side of it, and that is it does reveal the true hidden side of this forum and those who run it, on the behalf of others who make sure they do it according to the party line.

Truth always rises above the lies and lies won't stand in time, those words are true and will be fulfilled.

[Lilly Bighorn]

[$0.02] ron paul is a bit of a sacred cow around here. i don't think the pics mean much, but i confess i haven't and probably wouldn't ever vote for him for president. in his role as outspoken congressman, he brings much needed balance to the national debate, and i wish he was given even more airtime to describe his views. but on the whole, his pro-corporate views especially are too extreme. i'm all for auditing the fed and ending the american empire, but i don't want to enthrone corporate boards of directors kings in place of the federal government. i think either an all power federal government or all powerful corporations are a probably -- and what he have now with the two working together is even worse! i think they should have a somewhat adversarial relationship. i don't blame free market capitalism for the economic crisis (obviously) but i don't think pure capitalism is the answer either. [/$0.02]

[Dig]

This is totally out of order, you take these posts out of another post, that went all over the place, and cut these posts out, as if they are separate. Making them another post. Proper New World Order censorship of the highest order.

Total disgusted, but it does, but we should look at the positive side of it, and that is it does reveal the true hidden side of this forum and those who run it, on the behalf of others who make sure they do it according to the party line.

Truth always rises above the lies and lies won't stand in time, those words are true and will be fulfilled.

"Truth always rises above the lies and lies won't stand in time, those words are true and will be fulfilled."

Is that prophecy?

Well post the truth. Please. You have just replied using the 3 pics out of over 5,000 hours of Ron Paul videos.  These pictures indicate that in over 5,000 hours on 3 occassions he gave a possible 1st degree masonic handshake and flashed the "I love you" sign.

If this is more proof than Simon on a definite masonic jetski and his purposeful Eye through the V for a major magazine cover than I question your ability to use rational thought.

[Dig]

This is totally out of order, you take these posts out of another post, that went all over the place, and cut these posts out, as if they are separate. Making them another post. Proper New World Order censorship of the highest order.

Total disgusted, but we should look at the positive side of it, and that is it does reveal the true hidden side of this forum and those who run it, on the behalf of others who make sure they do it according to the party line.

Truth always rises above the lies and lies won't stand in time, those words are true and will be fulfilled.

BTW, did you actually read what I wrote when I posted the pics?

Not exactly proof, but here are some fun pics:

And if you have some "truth" that you are hiding from us I would like to hear it.

TRUTH DOES NOT FEAR INVESTIGATION!

[BlueBaron]

"Truth always rises above the lies and lies won't stand in time, those words are true and will be fulfilled."

Is that prophecy?

Well post the truth. Please. You have just replied using the 3 pics out of over 5,000 hours of Ron Paul videos.  These pictures indicate that in over 5,000 hours on 3 occassions he gave a possible 1st degree masonic handshake and flashed the "I love you" sign.

If this is more proof than Simon on a definite masonic jetski and his purposeful Eye through the V for a major magazine cover than I question your ability to use rational thought.

No one shakes hands all day long, so 5000 hours of video footage of someone shaking hands is not very likely.

Also I thought it was a Satanic symbol, long before the occultist woman made it a sign for the deaf.

Does Ron Paul think we all speak sign language and can interpret sign language.

I guess Bush loves us to.

[xTruthSeekerx]

uh bush is flashing el diablo outright look at the fingers on paul its compltely different

[BlueBaron]

Maybe Obama loves us then.



I Love You, Devil?

 The "El Diablo" hand sign often is con-fused with the deaf hand signal of the phrase, "I love you."  While at first this appears an odd resemblance, we register an "ahh, I get it!" emotion when we discover that the person who invented, or created, the hand sign system for the deaf, Helen Keller, was herself an occultist and Theosophist. Did Keller purposely design the deaf's "I love you" sign to be such a remarkable imitation of the classic sign of Satan? Was Keller saying, basically, "I love you, Devil?" —Texe Marrs (See CODEX MAGICA).

"She invented over 60 different signs by which she could talk to her family before the age of seven.  For example, if she wanted ice cream she would wrap her arms around herself and pretend to shiver." —SOURCE

[scottcowie]

Anyhow my point that seems to have gotten deleted in the move to this thread was that if you want to smear the guy from a talent show as a mason ( and no doubt a good place to put one as a change agent ) then you should perhaps take a look at your own sacred cow.

Instead of looking at everything that comes out of it as divine.

I think the first person to suspect is Dr. Paul. He is a member of Congress.

Who cares how he votes, being the one guy to vote against something don't mean diddly if you know the idea is going to pass the other way.

[xTruthSeekerx]

so just because he is a member of congress he's evil
not every damn politcian is controlled

[Dig]

Anyhow my point that seems to have gotten deleted in the move to this thread was that if you want to smear the guy from a talent show as a mason ( and no doubt a good place to put one as a change agent ) then you should perhaps take a look at your own sacred cow.

Instead of looking at everything that comes out of it as divine.

I think the first person to suspect is Dr. Paul. He is a member of Congress.

Who cares how he votes, being the one guy to vote against something don't mean diddly if you know the idea is going to pass the other way.

Are you really serious?  Do you know anything whatsoever about Ron Paul?

Do you know he delivered over 4,000 babies?

Did you know that he gives back a portion of his budget for his congressional office to the US Treasury every year?

Did you know that he does not go on any junket and does not partake in the lucrative congressional retirement program?

Did you ever listen to just a few hours of his thousands of hours of interviews/speeches?

Please go here to learn more about Ron Paul: http://ronpaullibrary.org

Like BlueBaron said, the truth is what we are after.  So go find it.

I have renaned the thread about the asshole Simon Crowell because there is not much information about him being a 33rd degree free mason available.  Care to do some of your own investigating to find out what you call a sacred cow is all about?

I understand that your cynicism surpasses mine by light years, but maybe you should actually do like I did and do some research.

[scottcowie]

so just because he is a member of congress he's evil
not every damn politcian is controlled

Really ? So you think that after all the staged events like 911 777 madrid bombings etc. After the rise of the truth movement that those who suddenly co-opt it into a campaign for liberty and a failed presidential bid should simply be taken at face value because they say things you like to here.

And any evidences of masonic ties or ties to racist groups or secret signs and handshakes should be ignored because he's the guy you invested your psyche into.

Ron Paul rah rah rah ? Like a football team ?

And anyone who questions the sacred high priest is a heretic who must be burnt lest the defeatist attitude spread and infect the other believers in this messianic gold standard cult leader ?

Or perhaps you wish to remain smugly superior to the 'Obamanoids' and 'McCaniacs' while you throw yourself whole heartedly into the fight to preserve liberty.

So suddenly the guy on the state controlled media is your friend. The guy who spends everyday and most of his time with the ones who would destroy your freedom and liberty.

This Ron Paul who is so out of the loop that he doesn't know who is chemtrailing his own state ?

I'd say give your head a shake, but it wouldn't be fair.

[Raincheck]

Do you know he delivered over 4,000 babies?

This is pertinent in what way?

[Dig]

This is pertinent in what way?

Pertinent to Ron Paul's character? Helping to deliver life to over 4,000 human beings? How do you feel this is not pertinent to his character?

Other non-pertinent things...

He served his country both in the armed services and in national services.

He is married to the same woman for over 50 years has many children and grand children.

He does not take Medicare/Medicaid as he does not wish to compromise his medical integrity by being forced to comply with controlled regulation that may not be in the patient's best interest.

You can look up other non-pertinent things for yourself.

[scottcowie]

This is pertinent in what way?

The same way that the doctor up here that delivers babies still hasn't paid me for the fence that I built him nor the storage unit.

Or the pediatrician that I saw as a child until the age of 6 or 7 and remember somewhat fondly went on to become one of the leading abortionists of our time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgentaler

I guess it means that...actually I don't know what it means.

[scottcowie]

Pertinent to Ron Paul's character? Helping to deliver life to over 4,000 human beings? How do you feel this is not pertinent to his character?

Other non-pertinent things...

He served his country both in the armed services and in national services.

He is married to the same woman for over 50 years has many children and grand children.

He does not take Medicare/Medicaid as he does not wish to compromise his medical integrity by being forced to comply with controlled regulation that may not be in the patient's best interest.

You can look up other non-pertinent things for yourself.

AHHH I get it, so I guess you're saying if you want to co-opt a truth movement which has discerning Christians within it, you'd better have a squeaky clean image guy as a front man.

The grandma suit.

" What big masonic handshakes you have grandma "

[Magnumpi]

So Ron Paul is evil because he doesn't pay for fences and sheds?

[Dig]

AHHH I get it, so I guess you're saying if you want to co-opt a truth movement which has discerning Christians within it, you'd better have a squeaky clean image guy as a front man.

The grandma suit.

" What big masonic handshakes you have grandma "

Actually what I am saying is that if you want to troll all over truth forums you have to make sure to use no logic, evidence, sources, reality, constructive arguments, and have a severely negative and antagonistic disposition.  You must rely fully on innuendo and speculation as well as a huge 100 ton chip on your shoulder that shall not be removed under any circumstance.  About 95% of your posts prove this point very well.

[Jackson Holly]

Does anyone have any evidence that RP is a mason other than handshake evidence?

And besides ... all masons are not necessarily evil. Lower degree masons are generally not tuned into the cabala nonesense and the 'unfinished work' of the elite capstone. They are in it more for the camaraderie, etc.

[Dig]

Does anyone have any evidence that RP is a mason other than handshake evidence?

Even the most extreme of the extreme "RP is a freemason" people cannot show me one piece of evidence.

And besides ... all masons are not necessarily evil. Lower degree masons are generally not tuned into the cabala nonesense and the 'unfinished work' of the elite capstone. They are in it more for the camaraderie, etc.

I have never met a mason I did not like (but I have only met a few and never met a high level one so what does that tell ya).

[luckee1]

WOW   

I am learning alot here. 

See, the first time I ever saw the I love you/devil hand sign, was in the 80's and it meant "hang ten"  surfer dude sign.

masonic or not  RP was NOT slated to be the next prez.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125687,00.html

Does nobody recall the umitigated fit that Hillary Clinton had when she was not tapped?  That is the sign of who is slated for the next presidency.

RP will never "be tapped" as He is not part of the program. 

[BlueBaron]

Even the most extreme of the extreme "RP is a freemason" people cannot show me one piece of evidence.

I have never met a mason I did not like (but I have only met a few and never met a high level one so what does that tell ya).

I got to admit I have known a few Masons, and I get on with them, but there was one, I never got on with for whatever reason that may have been.

[HighSea]

Tonight on Jack McLamb a caller pointed out this photo.



Page link. http://www.rense.com/general85/satn.htm Just scroll down a bit to see a blurry pic.

I'm mystified about all this myself. Maybe AJ could talk to RP about it?

[xaro007]

The thumbs are out.  It is supposed to mean, "I love you"....not "La Mano Cornuda".

[ChristSavage]

Hurts my fingers trying to do that sign.  Glad I don't have to do sign language for a living or else I'm screwed.

[1776blues]

I heard that woman too and correct me if I am wrong, but Jack did not say anything in defense of Dr Paul, in fact he seemed to praise her. I am going to listen to the re-feed just to make sure what I heard was right. She also said Dr Paul's dad was a mason as well.

It also appeared she was talking down to 911 truthers.

Too many opinions on unfounded nonsense within the truth/patriot movement is doing on and it will only divide and conquer us!

[1776blues]

The caller said Ron Paul misled the 911 truthers  and or acted like he was our friend then distanced himself from us which we have heard this complaint before as Alex has mentioned this.

She also said those of who doanted had their names listed on Ron's website and Alex's website? WTF? I've never no such list!

My opinion, this woman is a bit off her rocker. If you go and listen to the last 10 minutes of his rebroadcast you can hear this woman. I will attempt to write it down this time!

The page containing the photo of Dr Paul eas updated as of 5-4-09 and said that many of the photos were from Texe Marrs website, however, it does not say which ones or provide the link. On Texe's website I do not see any section to view photos.

Genesis supported Ron Paul and didn't they dump Rense's show, and did this create bad blood between Genesis, Rense, and Jones?


Alex, can you have Jack and Texe on your show!

[Raincheck]

Okay, he means "I love you". I feel all giddy now.

[IridiumKEPfactor]

Dr. Paul has arthritis in his hands.

[1776blues]

Dr. Paul has arthritis in his hands.

Not sure if comment is sarcasim, but I recall meeting actor John Carridine, father of David Carridine who starred in Kung Fu a TV series in the 70's, and he had arthritis so severe his hands looked deformed and he barely shake my hand.

[HighSea]

I mean, I've even done that handsign when rockin' at a concert when I was much younger and didn't know the meaning...so.

I believe RP is genuine and this is just another distraction.

[zafada]

Tonight on Jack McLamb a caller pointed out this photo.



Page link. http://www.rense.com/general85/satn.htm Just scroll down a bit to see a blurry pic.

I'm mystified about all this myself. Maybe AJ could talk to RP about it?

my girl's family does that...it's annoying.

[revolutionary_suicide]

i believe in Ron Paul and what he stands and fights for as much as anyone, and agree stuff like this should go under the "unimportant distractions" banner but.. at the same time its pretty strange.. ive now seen several instances (more than 3) in which Ron Paul is throwing up that hand sign.. ive heard it argued that its a Texas Longhorns thing.. this is the first time i heard the "I love you" argument.. i just ask out of genuine curiousity.. why is he throwing up "I love You" in sign language all over the place? i've never heard Dr. Paul discuss the subject of love. its just annoying to me to see him throwing up the same handsigns I associate with George Bush, the British Royal Family and the Illuminati Luciferians in general. if he has arthritis in his hands, why so many hand signs? ive heard that Dr Paul is involved in masonry and his wife is a Shriner, which i dont doubt and dont necessarily consider it to be a damning red flag.. a lot of people are masons, it doesnt mean theyre bent on global enslavement.. i remember there was a MASSIVE thread on this forum quite some time back trying to "expose" Dr Paul as a masonic Illuminatist.. and i argued against the idea time and time again.. i just look at images of Ron Paul throwing up that hand sign and ask "WTF? .... why?"

[Imbue]

i am sick and tired of seeing posts about
Ron Paul and his supposed devil hand sign

anyone who is a true Ron Paul fan
should know by now that the hand sign
that he makes is " I Love You " is american sign language

and those, that claim disapointment in Ron Paul
for flashing the devil hand sign
in my books,
are no better than trolls

" I Love You " in sign language

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight........Obviously because 'American Sign Language' used this symbol LONG before the Occult/Pagans......

[John Galt]

Yeah, come on guys. Ron was obviously signaling "I Love You". Even "our savior" Obama does it 

[jjbk]

Now I think this guy is great lets get this straight. although words don't mean shit, I find that what he wants to do in the USA like troops coming home, little or no taxes, abolish the fed etc.
 
But I found this video showing him how he is always flashing el diablo symbol, and also shaking hands with people using the freemason/illuminati 32nd degree and above handshake.

again Im not trying to bash on Dr paul, but what I have seen looks like he is all words, and if he got elected nothing would of happened most likely

now I know Dr Paul is revered and loved, and worshiped, however extend me the same courtesy I give you all when you post a story that seems outrageous but still ends up to be true, so please
anyway watch for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x6inINzThw