Debunked: Bhutto didn't mean to say "Osama bin Laden" Killed

[Matthew]

There's no reason to give Bhutto credit for speaking out about Bin Laden being killed. She simply misspoke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IIn_UnLO9I

BHUTTO TALKING ABOUT BIN LADEN BEING ALIVE AFTER THE ABOVE INTERVIEW:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJPqydUnP5s

[blackwater]

Is there a chance she was threatened and made a "retraction" in the hopes of not being assassinated?

Which they did in December of 2007....

[Matthew]

Is there a chance she was threatened and made a "retraction" in the hopes of not being assassinated?

Which they did in December of 2007....

OTHER EXAMPLES OF BHUTTO TALKING ABOUT BIN LADEN BEING ALIVE:

October 2007, NEW YORK - Benazir Bhutto, Pakistan's former prime minister, said in an interview that she would cooperate with the American military in targeting Osama bin Laden.

Bhutto told BBC America, in an interview scheduled to air last night, that she would accept US assistance in the event they discovered the whereabouts of the Al Qaeda leader, but that she would prefer to have the Pakistani military execute the strike.
"If there is overwhelming evidence, I would hope that I would be able to take Osama bin Laden myself without depending on the Americans," Bhutto last week during the taping. "But if I couldn't do it, of course we are fighting this war together and would seek their cooperation in eliminating him."
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2007/10/02/bhutto_would_take_u...

August 9 2007, Finance Wire, NBC

CURRY: So if you return to power, how would you face down al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden?
BHUTTO: Bin laden has evaded capture because the pursuit has not been hard enough. We have to have pursuit of al Qaeda, tall pan, consistently and persistently and not only when there`s pressure on us.

September 19 2007, National Public Radio

INSKEEP: Are you saying that whoever is hiding Osama bin Laden would cooperate with you to track him down?
Ms. BHUTTO: No, they would not cooperate with me. They would try to stop me. I think the people who are hiding Osama bin Laden are dead scared of democracy. They're frightened that now President Bush and the United States and the world community is calling for elections, they're doing that best to find some pretext by which they can get the elections postponed, because the people who are hiding Osama bin Laden know it would be very difficult for them to do that if democracy brings the Pakistan People's Party back to government under my leadership.

Benazir Bhutto on CNN Nov 3, 2007:

WHITFIELD: So, Ms. Bhutto, am I hearing you correctly in saying that you almost directly blame General Pervez Musharraf for helping to produce these safe havens in Pakistan, where there is terrorist activity, where, perhaps, in these safe havens someone like the Osama bin Laden, the most-wanted terrorist in the world, just might be taking refuge?

BHUTTO: I wouldn't like to go so far as to blame General Musharraf directly, but I would certainly say that many people in his administration and his security apparatus responsible for internal security make me feel very uneasy. And I believe that tribal areas of Pakistan could not have become safe havens without collusion of some of the elements in the present administration. And this is why I believe that regime change is very important.

I had hoped --

WHITFIELD: Do you Musharraf -- I'm sorry. Do you think General Musharraf knows where Osama bin Laden is?

BHUTTO: I don't think General Musharraf personally knows where Osama bin Laden is, but I do feel that people around him are many who are associated with the earlier military dictatorship of the '80s. That military dictatorship formed the Iran Mujahideen. The Mujahideen subsequently became Al Qaeda and Taliban. So I believe that break has not been made between the supporters and sympathizers of the Mujahideen and thereby, of the Taliban and Al Qaeda that is necessary. We need an administration and a security apparatus that does not have people with links to the Iran Jihad of the '80s.
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0711/03/cnr.06.html

[Matthew]

BUMP.

[shipgeek]

So does this mean you believe OBL was really alive and Soetoro's forces have really killed him?

I am sorry but I can't buy it.

OBL has been dead and gone since 2001.

This whole new OBL killing thing is a lie.

[Matthew]

So does this mean you believe OBL was really alive and Soetoro's forces have really killed him?

I am sorry but I can't buy it.

OBL has been dead and gone since 2001.

This whole new OBL killing thing is a lie.

No, I believe he's been dead for years as well. I know what's up. I just don't like giving another establishment puppet credit for something they don't deserve. It's like the Wilson quote about the Federal Reserve. He didn't say it.

[jofortruth]

So you're saying you trust those sources over hearing the lady say it for herself? Come on! Of course the MSM (articles you refer to) would deny this and attempt to debunk her. Do you realize she was murdered shortly after saying this?  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5N1t6Iv68M&feature=channel_video_title
http://youtu.be/a5N1t6Iv68M

"On November 2, 2007, during an interview by Sir David Frost, Benazir Bhutto stated that Osama bin Laden had been assassinated by Omar Sheikh. Now, Omar Sheikh was sentenced to death in July 2002 for the kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl. If this is indeed true, it puts a lie to all the bin Laden videos with which we were regaled over the past five years - all of which have been declared to be fakes by a great many people."

"The Sunday Times once described Omar Sheikh as 'no ordinary terrorist but a man who has connections that reach high into Pakistan's military and intelligence elite and into the innermost circles' of bin Laden and al-Qaeda."

She said he was dead, and then shortly thereafter was murdered herself on December 27, 2007! The ELITE couldn't have her exposing their BOOGEYMAN to be used for years later to scare the people, so they silenced her. It's the same MO they use with other whistleblowers and people "in the know".

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The Death of bin Ladenism
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/11/opinion/11TAHE.html?ex=1089432000&en=373a282aeff2716a&ei=5070&todaysheadlines
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2135473.stm
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/

By AMIR TAHERI
Published: July 11, 2002

PARIS — Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.

With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival?

Even if he is still in the world, bin Ladenism has left for good. Mr. bin Laden was the public face of a brand of politics that committed suicide in New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, killing thousands of innocent people in the process.

What were the key elements of that politics?

The first was a cynical misinterpretation of Islam that began decades ago with such anti-Western ideologues as Maulana Maudoodi of Pakistan and Sayyid Qutb of Egypt. Although Mr. Maudoodi and Mr. Qutb were not serious thinkers, they could at least offer a coherent ideology based on a narrow reading of Islamic texts. Their ideas about Western barbarism and Muslim revival, distilled down to bin Ladenism, became mere slogans designed to incite zealots to murder.

People like Mr. Maudoodi and Mr. Qutb could catch the ball and run largely because most Muslim intellectuals of their generation (and later) had no interest in continuing the work of Muslim philosophers. Our intellectuals were too busy learning Western ideologies of one kind or another — and they left the newly urbanized Muslim masses to the half-baked ideas of men like Mr. Maudoodi and Mr. Qutb and eventually Mr. bin Laden.

Now, however, many Muslim intellectuals are returning home, so to speak. They are rediscovering the philosophical heritage of Islam and the challenges of Muslim political thought. And Maudoodi-Qutbism is now being seen as a pseudo-Islamic version of Western fascism.

The second element that made Mr. bin Laden possible was easy money, largely from wealthy individuals in the Persian Gulf area who believed that they were buying a place in the hereafter while protecting themselves against political opposition in this world. Some paid because they believed they were helping poor and oppressed Muslims. Others paid so militants would go and spend their energies far away from home.

That easy money is no longer available, at least not in large quantities. Many donors have realized they were financing terrorists. Some have been forced to choose between the West, where they have the bulk of their wealth, and the troglodyte mujahedeen of the Hindu Kush.

The third element that made bin Ladenist terror possible was the encouraging, or at least complacent, attitude of several governments. The Taliban in Afghanistan began by hosting Mr. bin Laden and ended up becoming his life-and-death buddies. The Pakistanis were also supportive because they wanted to dominate Afghanistan and make life hard for the Indians by sending holy warriors to Kashmir. The Sudanese government was sympathetic, if not actually supportive, and offered at least a safe haven. This was also the case in Yemen, where in November 2000 I accidentally ran into a crowd of Qaeda militants who had flown in from Pakistan for a gathering.

We now know that Qaeda cells operated, often quite openly, in Muslim countries from Indonesia and Malaysia to Morocco and Tunisia, without being bothered by anyone. The fall of the Taliban means the gang no longer has a secure base. All the other countries are also closed, and in some cases even hostile.

The fourth element was the mistaken practice of many Western powers that sheltered the terrorists in the name of freedom of expression and dissent. We now know that London was a critical haven for Al Qaeda. The murder of the Afghan resistance leader Ahmed Shah Massoud was planned in London. Qaeda militants operated in Germany, Holland, Belgium, France, Spain and Italy without significant restraint.

The fifth element that made bin Ladenism possible was the West's, especially America's, perceived weakness if not actual cowardice. A joke going around militant Islamist circles until last year was that the only thing the Americans would do if attacked was to sue. That perception no longer exists. The Americans, supported by one of the largest coalitions in history, have shown they will use force against their enemies even if that means a long and difficult war.

The sixth element of bin Ladenism was the illusion in most Western nations that they could somehow remain unaffected by the violence unleashed by fanatical terrorists against so many Muslim nations from Indonesia to Algeria.

Mr. bin Laden could survive and prosper only in a world in which these elements existed. That world is gone. Mr. bin Laden's ghost may linger on — perhaps because Washington and Islamabad will find it useful. President Bush's party has a crucial election to win and Pervez Musharraf is keen to keep Pakistan in the limelight as long as possible.

But the truth is that Osama bin Laden is dead.

Amir Taheri, editor of the Paris-based journal Politique Internationale, is a frequent contributor to the "Arab News" of Jidda, Saudi Arabia.  

[jofortruth]

Source:
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/

Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:

al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago
Islamabad -

A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.

[Matthew]

Source:
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/

Can you read before posting?

[jofortruth]

The video speaks for itself! Many have corroborated her story! Obama has lied again. That is the issue that needs to be addressed!

[Matthew]

Yes, very possible!

You're posts are irrational. Just because she didn't mean to say Bin Laden was dead, doesn't mean he wasn't already dead. She was an establishment puppet. There's no reason she would casually throw out the truth like that.

Bin Laden has been dead for years.

The corrupt politician Benazir Bhutto misspoke and didn't expose that truth.

End of story.